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Patterson vs. Pedro rained out

Anyone who saw my appearance on Washington Post Live, which was cut off by some lightning, knows how hard it was raining here. So they called the game about an hour ago, long before most fans got here.

John Patterson thus will throw tomorrow morning in a game against the minor leaguers who are here for acclerated camp. He'll keep it at 45 pitches so that he can come back on three days' rest, thus keeping his normal turn. That would make his next start Tuesday.

Shawn Hill played long toss today. He's waiting word on what his next step will be.

Johnny Estrada got a cortisone shot today in his right elbow. It just wasn't getting better. This situation still bears watching.

Dmitri Young took grounders today, and he's supposed to go get some at-bats in an accelerated game on Saturday. That one obviously bears watching as well.

Must write for paper. I'll talk to you tomorrow from Jupiter (the town, not the planet).

By Barry Svrluga  |  March 6, 2008; 6:44 PM ET
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I'm The Decider. Only I can decide when a baseball game will be rained out or not. I'm The Decider.

Now it's time to go surf The Google.

Posted by: George W. Bush | March 6, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Hello, moderators?

Posted by: Anonymous | March 6, 2008 7:02 PM | Report abuse

from last post...

I really like Zuckerman and Thom Loverro from the times. I wish the post could score those guys! --- Not to take anything away from you and Boz, Barry. You two are primo.

Posted by: 6th and D | March 6, 2008 7:36 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the troll is Thom Loverro? Or maybe just a fan of his.

Posted by: here's a thought | March 6, 2008 7:48 PM | Report abuse

I live under a bridge

Posted by: Troll | March 6, 2008 8:56 PM | Report abuse

The Troll is Monica.

Posted by: Slick Willy | March 6, 2008 11:33 PM | Report abuse

debbi taylor is a troll

Posted by: love | March 7, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

debbi taylor is a troll

Posted by: love | March 7, 2008 12:05 AM | Report abuse

haven't seen jayb around today to extoll the virtues of livo... wonder if this is why...

L Hernandez
3 10 6 5 1 1 1

ouch. makes chico's outing look pretty good, eh? not that i think early ST outings mean that much, but since it was an issue brought up earlier...

Posted by: 231 | March 7, 2008 12:23 AM | Report abuse


Wow, thanks for that. Remember, too, that the equation to consider isn't Livo's stats vs Chico's stats, but Livo's stats vs the combination of Chico and Mock's stats.

I guess we can also throw in Livo's stats vs Odalis Perez's stats.

Oh, what the heck. Also throw in Livo's hitting stats vs Felipe Lopez's stats, to completely cover the guys some of the gang have pounded on.

Posted by: Positively Half St | March 7, 2008 7:01 AM | Report abuse

From the Times Blog:
"One last item: loyal reader and poster Jay B. (along with others) have asked about the way we allow people to post comments on the blog. Unlike other websites, we don't allow you to post directly to the site without it first being read by an editor. I know this can be frustrating and makes it difficult for conversations to get started, but I'm told by my higher-ups at the paper that the policy isn't going to change for now. As great as the internet can be, one of the downsides is that anyone can say anything (which sometimes leads to problems). Our editors choose to look at our website no differently than they do the print edition of the paper -- as in, we're only going to publish what we know is both accurate and in good taste. So at least for the forseeable future, you guys won't be able to see your comments posted immediately. The good news is that several folks back at the office are constantly checking to see if there are new comments and trying to post them as quickly as possible. So we're trying. Thanks for understanding"

I guess the Moonies don't like free speach.

Posted by: PB | March 7, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

OTOH, it would eliminate flame wars and troll activity. Just saying.

Posted by: natsfan1a | March 7, 2008 8:08 AM | Report abuse


Thanks for the notebook today - it got right at the question I had about Flores with the news about Estrada's cortisone shot.

What are you hearing about Chico's chances in the rotation? Ever since we played "Guess the 25-man roster" a few posts back, Chico seems to be in a tough spot. With Hill, Patterson, Perez, Bergmann and Redding (presuming health), Chico's options make him the easy odd-man-out. That said, most of Manny's quotes seem to suggest that he views Chico as having earned a spot last year and that he's pretty much penciled in. Again, presuming health, that seems to leave six arms for five spots, and that's not counting the fact that Lannan seems to have impressed last time out. Not to start another round of "guess the rotation," but any rumblings on whether Chico's feeling pressured on keeping the spot he "earned?"

Posted by: Ryan Dylan (and his leopard-skin, Curly-W, journalist-tagged pillbox hat) | March 7, 2008 8:16 AM | Report abuse

"OTOH, it would eliminate flame wars and troll activity. Just saying."

The over-moderated sites tend to be pretty dull.

Posted by: PB | March 7, 2008 8:29 AM | Report abuse

i still like the screech "hitting the showers" commerical from previous post. that's a good one. i'd also like to see screech trying to play the outfield and just getting repeatedly beat to balls by wily mo and milledge and kearns. maybe even getting shoved out of the way a couple times to "Centerfield" tune. is that fogerty? i forget. we don't need any broken legs (or wings) though. mmmmm wings.

Posted by: longterm | March 7, 2008 8:38 AM | Report abuse

And as long as you don't feed trolls, they tend to go away. I'd have to say that the bloggers in here are pretty professional, and quickly recognize trolls. This is by far one of the best, if not the best blog on the Post.

Posted by: G-town | March 7, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

If the veteran top 5 (JP / Hill/ Bergmann / Redding / Perez) are all healthy, then there are 3 possibilities for Chico. First, if they want him to keep his arm strength, work on control, and be ready for a call up in case of injury, there is Columbus. Second, they might put him in the bullpen if they want him around for an emergency start, long relief, and as a second lefty to King.

I think a third possibility might be he gets a spot in the rotation and Perez starts the year at Columbus. Perez is not on the 40 man yet. I forget if they have disclosed when he can walk if he's not added to the 25 man roster. Usually these veterans negotiate a date by which they can terminate their contract if they are not called up. While it is possible that Lannan would be the one to push out Perez, I think it is more likely that they send him out if 5 other starters are pitching well so that he can consolidate a bit after jumping 4 levels last year.

Posted by: PTBNL (post to be named later) | March 7, 2008 9:11 AM | Report abuse

Do you think a Screech/Tripp Isenhour commercial would fly?

Posted by: Hawkeye | March 7, 2008 9:16 AM | Report abuse



"We spent the extra money, we got a bigger caliper tree," Lerner said. "It'll be much more spectacular."

Posted by: Lerners are Cheap!!! | March 7, 2008 9:31 AM | Report abuse

it's better to moderate by deleting inappropriate stuff than it is to moderate by approving anything. one more reason the wapost blogs are read/visited more than the watimes.

Posted by: 231 | March 7, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

"OTOH, it would eliminate flame wars and troll activity. Just saying."

Yeah, by nixing some of the things Jay B. says.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | March 7, 2008 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Agree, but sometimes the mods seem to be rather slow on the uptake. Not that I'd ever stop visiting this site because of that.


it's better to moderate by deleting inappropriate stuff than it is to moderate by approving anything. one more reason the wapost blogs are read/visited more than the watimes.

Posted by: natsfan1a | March 7, 2008 9:49 AM | Report abuse

ya know, our pitching staff is going to have one of the highest stolen bases against in the league. they might even rival the padres, in large part to injuries and the noodle armed catchers. heres hoping for flores, at least he has a decent arm.

i think this issue isnt getting enough discussion. there is a reason why the mets traded for schneider after all - and essentially gave up on lo duca. why would that be? defense.

Posted by: theraph | March 7, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

Maybe we should have kept Simontacchi

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | March 7, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Agreed. Simontacchi: King of the 2B pickoff.

Posted by: NatsNut | March 7, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

"I guess the Moonies don't like free speach."

You just now figured that out? (OTOH, even if they don't support free speech, their editors may at least be able to spell it. But then, I'd rather have free speech spelled wrong than to not have it even though it's spelled right. Maybe that's just me, but it's yet another reason why I refuse to read the Washington Times.)

Posted by: Section 419+1 | March 7, 2008 10:32 AM | Report abuse

i think the increase in offense from the OF spot with millege, particularly in the long run, will more than make up for defensive shortcomings as far as throwing out 25 more basestealers this year.

Posted by: 231 | March 7, 2008 10:35 AM | Report abuse

new post. Belly Up!

Posted by: Anonymous | March 7, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

"Perez is not on the 40 man yet."

This is probably due more to him not having a valid work visa yet than to anything else, I'd bet. Also, didn't he sign a minor league deal? That conceivably would allow them to postpone making any decision on him until right before whatever date the 40-man and 25-man rosters have to be set going into the season. Also, guys like Chico and Lannan presumably still have options left and can be moved back and forth at will between the major league and minor league teams. One or both of them will probably end up getting the emergency starter role and end up spending the season not in the bullpen but instead at Columbus or Harrisburg. Remember, there is almost always a couple of days advance notice if you're gonna need an emergency starter. Plenty of time to bring a guy up from Columbus or Harrisburg, no need to use up a bullpen roster spot for that.

My guess is that if everybody stays healthy and Perez pitches halfway decently once he gets to pitch, both Chico and Lannan will start the season in the minors.

Posted by: Section 419+1 | March 7, 2008 10:47 AM | Report abuse

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