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Sunday lineups -- and Opening Night Poster

Remember, today's the day to buy the Post at Giant, CVS or Safeway (and perhaps a few other locales), because it comes with that very nice poster of the first pitch at Nationals Park. Well worth the $1.50.

The Clydesdales just made a triumphant trip around the warning track here. Suddenly, I want a Budweiser.

A few quick hits:

* Felipe Lopez at second today with Rob Mackowiak starting in left and Ronnie Belliard getting his first day off. Lopez made an infield play in the outfield yesterday, charging a low liner, scooping it up on the short-hop and then forcing a runner at third, 7-5. A very nice play.

* Dmitri Young will have a few days off after having a shot yesterday. Manager Manny Acta said he'd take grounders and swing some on Wednesday.

* Randy St. Claire spent time looking at video with Jesus Colome this morning. Colome is clearly trying to overthrow, and he's not throwing strikes. St. Claire said he'd take 93/94 with good control over 97/98 when you have no idea where it's going. He'll have a day off today.

* Chad Cordero threw a side session yesterday, then will throw another one tomorrow. All seems fine with him.

* Shawn Hill drove from Florida to Virginia yesterday and will start for Potomac on Tuesday, the Nationals' off day.

Your lineups for a Sunday afternoon.

Washington:
Guzman -- 6
Milledge -- 8
Zimmerman -- 5
Johnson -- 3
Kearns -- 9
Lo Duca -- 2
Lopez -- 4
Mackowiak -- 7
Lannan -- 1

St. Louis:
Barton -- 7
Ankiel -- 8
Pujols -- 3
Glaus -- 5
Ludwick -- 9
Molina -- 2
Kennedy -- 4
Lohse -- 1
Izturis -- 6

And congratulations to the Washington Capitals from the Nationals Journal staff. Quite an accomplishment.

By Barry Svrluga  |  April 6, 2008; 1:44 PM ET
 
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"Randy St. Claire spent time looking at video with Jesus Colome this morning. Colome is clearly trying to overthrow, and he's not throwing strikes."
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Our very own Nuke Laloosh...

Posted by: Juan-John | April 6, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

Alright! Let's win this one!

Posted by: i hate walks | April 6, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Yes, let's win. I want to feel at the end of the game that it made more sense to go with John Lannan than to spend money on a retread like Kyle Lohse.

And let's not win by 1. Let's blow them out today, Nats.

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 6, 2008 2:21 PM | Report abuse

"Shawn Hill drove from Florida to Virginia yesterday."

Don't they have airplanes in Florida?

Posted by: Ashburn | April 6, 2008 2:22 PM | Report abuse

shoot. Milledge tagged out at 1st.

Posted by: 6th and D | April 6, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Yet another small blunder. These giveaways have built up this weekend.

In the meantime, Ankiel sure looks comfortable gliding to long fly balls. Lastings should pay attention.

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 6, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!

No walks, people!

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 6, 2008 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Why would a guy who suffers from chronic muscle tightness make a 12 hour drive when he could fly instead?

Posted by: Road Trip | April 6, 2008 2:29 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Hill drove because he needs his car in D.C. this summer.

Posted by: Barry Svrluga | April 6, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Wow shocker Lopez didn't come through... Neither did Paul "Mitchell" Lo Duca. Mitchell, as in Mitchell Report. Hopefully Lannan can settle in now.

Posted by: Jason | April 6, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Wasted opportunity there, Lopez is really doing all he can to get the Patterson treatment.

Posted by: ExtremeNats.com | April 6, 2008 2:48 PM | Report abuse

"Why would a guy who suffers from chronic muscle tightness make a 12 hour drive when he could fly instead?"

Maybe because commercial airlines won't take your car as checked baggage? Hill lives in Florida in the off-season, so he needs to get his car up north somehow. I guess it was too late for him to get a spot on the Auto Train, which unloads not far from Potomac's stadium actually.

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 6, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else notice Molina hustling down to 3rd on Lannan's bunt?

Posted by: #4 | April 6, 2008 3:02 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad you answered any future questions about "Mitchell" within the same post. It wasn't as though the report was crammed down our throats or anything by the sports media.

Otherwise, I may have thought it to be Paul Mitchell, the salon shampoo guy. The Nats don't need a shampoo guy calling a game or blocking wild pitches, though he might have a better arm to 2nd.

Posted by: Los Doce Ocho | April 6, 2008 3:13 PM | Report abuse

I think that LaRussa has the take sign on for everybody but the pitcher - no swings until you're 0-2. Lannan's 2d was sweet, and you gotta love Kearnsy gedtting to 3rd on a steal in the 2d - very un-Acta like, and the Cards looked surprised. Too bad LoDuca cant lay off the up-the-ladder pitch. What would Jesus do? Nick is so sparkly!

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Looking at the Nats the last few days and nights, I'm thinking we were lucky to get off to the 3-0 start. This team could easily be 1-5 and boy would we be crying the blues. Bad pattern setting in...stranded runners, too many walks, lack of mental focus, mediocre (at best) bullpen showing its true colors. Opening Night seems like it was a year ago.

Posted by: Washington, DC | April 6, 2008 3:23 PM | Report abuse

There's an inning where having your pitcher bat 8th maybe wasn't so great.

I'm enjoying listening to Sutton talk about hitting the ball the other way. The best hitters use the opposite middle infielder as their foul pole. Anything pulled toward the 1B or 3B is a mistake

Posted by: #4 | April 6, 2008 3:27 PM | Report abuse

How about Guzman to Mr. Fantastic Stretch Johnson for the last out of the 4th? Great inning for Lannan, and glad to hear from Hall of Fame Pitcher Don Sutton that the pitch count doesn't matter if the pitches aren't "under stress." I guess if he's throwing out of the windup, he can pitch 150 and be rested and ready for the next game.

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

Haha, touche.

Posted by: Jason | April 6, 2008 3:29 PM | Report abuse

shocker... flop strikes out.

Posted by: natsinthevalley | April 6, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Lohse sure looks glad to be out of the Great American Smallpark. Do we need to be laying off more - more plate discipline?

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 3:33 PM | Report abuse

How many Nats fans are already wondering 'When is Redskins training camp starting?'

Now, O's fans, having fun rooting on a 1st place team.

Even Erik Bedard was too scared to face the O's today. He knows the deal.

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Guzman has shown more arm strength today than last year. Those have been two excellent throws from the hole.

Posted by: #4 | April 6, 2008 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Nice work getting out of that jam.

Posted by: Jason | April 6, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else freakin' tired of this firestone commercial?

Posted by: Ad Exec | April 6, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Hail to Guzman and his surgeon! Hail to John Lannan! Did you see that curve ball against Kennedy? Now, time for some run support!

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

if it weren't for the HGH wonder rick ankiel then this game would be 0-0 still.

Posted by: natsinthevalley | April 6, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I would love for Lannan to get through the 7th inning, even if we end up losing the game. Seven innings and 2 runs allowed would be a nice achievement, and would give the bullpen a break.

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 6, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Boy, ain't the crabcakes super delicious today!!! O's comeback and beat the Mariners 3-2.

How are the Nats doing today?

Oh, the Cards are winning 2-0 in the bottom of the seventh. Sorry for asking.

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Well ... that was good for Lannan - better than I thought he'd be. I feel even better when he's doing that after being around the league a couple of times. He showed good poise though.

Hanrahan has got to throw a 1st pitch strike to Pujols. If he gets behind him, look out

Posted by: #4 | April 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

well done john lannan. lets get joel hanrahan in there to put away pujols.

Posted by: natsinthevalley | April 6, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Hanrahan is nice

Posted by: Jason | April 6, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Lannan! Hanrahan! Beautiful! Given today's strike zone, which requires our guys to roove one to Albert the Great, that was a sweet inning. It's also the first time you could see the effect of Nick's injury - he's going to be aware of the tarp and where his legs are. That is a good thing. Come on Nats! 2 runs are not enough to beat you!

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Pathetic swing on a 2-0 count for Lopez.

Now LaRussa will change pitchers six times this inning.

Posted by: #4 | April 6, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

It's beautiful to read all the "excuses" for the Nat's woes that are tossed around here.

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Another hit after the refusal of the veteran ump to call a belt-high strike. And now a man on 3rd. Luis should not have had to groove that ball to avoid another ball.

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 4:26 PM | Report abuse

So at the end of a week, lads and lassies, what do we have? (Game in progress today counts for next week.)

Treating baseball as a stock market, the Nats as an industry, and starting pitching, relieving, hitting and fielding as separate subindustries, with players being the individual stocks, here is an impressionistic overview. Baseline is last season's performance as a whole. Plus or minus shows my subjective estimate of the week's performance.

Caveats: yes, a week vs a year is a wobbly comparison. But season week-to-week would introduce its own complexity in that any given week last year might not have been representative of the year as a whole. If I were doing this with a spreadsheet -- charting all box score performance statistics per player -- I would do week to week and list every player. But then it wouldn't be impressionistic. And it would also be work.

The marks are plus (+) minus (-) and no change (0).
Starting pitching -
Relievers 0
Hitting +
Fielding +
W/L +

WEEK:
Worst position player: Lo Duca
Best position player: Guzman
Worst starter: Perez
Best starter: Redding
Worst reliever: Colome
Best reliever: Ayala

Posted by: natty bumppo | April 6, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

This umpire's zone is awful, but Lohse had the same zone. It's not the reason the Nats are losing.

Posted by: #4 | April 6, 2008 4:30 PM | Report abuse

MASN has cut into the beginning of almost every inning to squeeze in more bottom-feeder advertisements. This time it is some ambulance chasers.

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 6, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Good call on the week's best and worst bumppo. I think Johnson is neck and neck with Guzzie for best position player.

Posted by: NatsNut | April 6, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

sigh

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 6, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

me too. sigh. What a bummer.

Posted by: NatsNut | April 6, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Let me understand. I've subscribe to the WaPo for 20 years and I don't get a poster unless I go to the Giant and buy the paper??
Will someone explain at the WaPo this logic to me???

Posted by: Tom | April 6, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Thank God there are 155 games left. This was Rick Ankiel Day. Nat's hitting harkened back to days of yore - the last three years. I'm looking forward to a sweep of the Marlins!

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Flynnie-

Thank God there are 155 games left just because the 6 months without baseball are so much less fun, regardless.

As for our season, we should all be excited that Lannan did so well today in a loss. Poor kid. It's one thing to be the best pitcher on the team and be sent down after Spring Training. It is another thing to have to worry about that when you are at or near the top during the regular season.

I want to see Redding repeat his last outing tomorrow. I want that sweep, as well, but I would settle for now for a victory tomorrow to end the losing streak.

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 6, 2008 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Let's see, Oh have won 4 straight are in 1st place in the ultra-competitive AL East.

Nat's have lost 4 straight to drop back in the standings in the sub-par NL East.

Ain't the crabcakes delicious!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

"MASN has cut into the beginning of almost every inning to squeeze in more bottom-feeder advertisements. This time it is some ambulance chasers."

Is it MASN that's doing this, or Cox Cable in Fairfax? The same thing happened last Monday against Philly, the only other game so far that's been on MASN2. They did it four or five times last Monday, and at least six times today. Several times they went back to the game broadcast and then cut away to one of these cheesy commercials, missing at least three pitches every time. This kind of stuff (the Post's posting guidelines won't let me use the word I really want to) hasn't happened when the game has been on MASN, where Cox has a dedicated channel. I think they're doing it in compensation for having to give up one of their other channels to run MASN2.

Whatever the reason, they're going to hear about it from me. After 30 years of being 100% cable free, I got a big screen TV this winter and subscribed to Cox solely to watch Nats games. My other choice was DirecTV, but I chose Cox because they were about $5/month less. But I'm going to tell them that if they don't stop this crap I'm going straight to DirecTV. And they sure as hell better not do it tomorrow night when they have to free up a channel for MASN HD!

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 6, 2008 4:56 PM | Report abuse

What happened to the podcasts?

Posted by: Ed | April 6, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

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Crabcakes, Boog's BBQ, and 1st place baby.

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 5:06 PM | Report abuse

419-1, it did not happen on DirecTv. We saw every exhilarating defensive, and each and every excruciating offensive play.

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

You get what you pay for 419+1 (what a clever way to hint at "420" and your illegal marijuana ties, by the way).

You crummy broadcasts are what you get for being cheap. Probably because you spend too much money on the wacky tobacky.

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Time for Acta to be held accountable for his laid back approach to leading this team.

All I ever hear him say is "guys are not always going to get a hit" and guys are not "always going throw strikes". This approach has led to a very low energy approach to baseball. Team looks dead and that is Acta's responsibility!

Bottom line is Lopez, Millidge (lazy approach to CF again today) and several pitchers are feeling no heat or sense of urgency to pick up their games.

Also, Lenny Harris seems to have no positive effect on the hitters like Lopez and Millidge who seem to have no plan at the plate. Lenny Harris was Acta's choice to keep even though he has no track record as a hitting coach. How many fastballs right over the plate is Lopez going to take? He looks like he has no idea what he should be looking for. That is Harris's job to get him ready to hit any given pitcher.

I was one who wanted to sign Lohse but we mad his look much better than he is (which would still be the Ace of this staff).

Posted by: JayB | April 6, 2008 5:28 PM | Report abuse

tom, am not a postie but i understand the printing process. home delivery is not set up to include rolled up separate items, i.e. the poster. it ain't fraud, or avarice, it's just industrial limitations on the newspaper racket that they can't home deliver stuff not inserted into the paper.

Posted by: natty bumppo | April 6, 2008 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I like how you guys are already jumping on Milledge. I told you Adam Jones was leagues better than this guy but you all didn't want to listen.

O's = 2008 WS Champs

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 5:43 PM | Report abuse

The logic of starting Lopez is beginning to look dubious. His at bats look weak and he seems to flail at a lot of the pitches. On the other hand his defense has been fine, even in left field. So far adding Boone, Mackowiak, Lo Duca and Harris to the roster has not been good offensively. Boy do we miss Dimitri and Pena. Lannan pitched good enough to win and I liked his demeanor on the mound.

Posted by: Dale | April 6, 2008 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Natty Bumpo, what do you do for a living? Your proficiency in laying out that argument hurt my head, and its usefulness is amazing. Although you're going to have to back up the claim that the bullpen is 0 (neither helpful nor hurtful) to convince me).

I was just at the Giant in West Falls Church and there's a box of posters next to a stand which was once full of papers but is now completely empty. Since I couldn't buy a paper, I just helped myself to a poster. There was about half a box of posters left (twenty?).

Today our pitchers gave us a chance (wrapped up with some leadoff and four-pitch walks, but I'll leave it to Randy St. Claire to gripe about that), but our bats were silent. Oh well. Today we finally really got beaten.

Tomorrow: buy a $5 ticket or watch in HD?

Posted by: i hate walks | April 6, 2008 5:45 PM | Report abuse

WALKS.....Nats pitchers are leading all of baseball in walks. It is early but I recall the talk from Jimbo and Acta about what type of players this team is developing in the farm system. First pitch strikes and pitch to contact are what we were told they value in the system. Yet Chico, Lannan, Hanrahan, Bergman (last year for sure), the young guys they have developed all have big trouble with walks! The Vets they choose to keep have the same problem. King, Perez, Ayala all have walked hitters at a league leading pace. Talk is cheap.

Posted by: JayB | April 6, 2008 5:49 PM | Report abuse

It's a long season and we've messed up a good start.

However, I will not be one to ever give up on this team or send messages that take joy in other teams' failures.

O's Exec - you continue to help us get more coverage of the Nationals - and by extension less of the Orioles - with your posts to this blog. They are annoying, which must please you.

They are also the epitome of poor sportsmanship and arrogance. Worst of all, they disrespect the great game of baseball. Those who do so always have their ways come back to haunt them when, inevitably, what goes around comes around.

Rest assured, when it does, I will not respond they way you have. Your attitude and ways make you a perfect Angelos-era Oriole fan. I will spend my time with baseball fans with a little more class and respect for one another.

By the way, isn't your real name Emilio Garcia-Ruiz?

Posted by: natswriter | April 6, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

On the positive side, Ross Detwiler pitched 5 scoreless innings with 7 strikeouts, winning his first game of the year with potomac. We had best go to see him early in the season, before he is whisked off to Harrisburg.

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 6, 2008 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Boy is that what it's now come to for Nat's fans? Getting excited about some minor league stats?

The long season continues for Nats fans.

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 6:03 PM | Report abuse

gettin' a tad discouraged. Starting pitching has been respectable, except for the Perez debacle. Hitting has been very poor, as usual. Kearns a disappointment, bullpen a disappointment, managing a disappointment, front office decisions (of late) a disappointment.
Thank goodness, golf season is nigh. Now that I think about it-my golf game sucks too. Sigh!

Posted by: Jeeves | April 6, 2008 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Also forgot to mention that I am a closet O's fan.

Posted by: natswriter | April 6, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

i hate walks @

what i felt was that the bullpen was neither better nor worse this week than all last year. they didn't steal any games and they didn't give any away they shouldn't have either.

Posted by: natty bumppo | April 6, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Reflecting on today's game:

1. It's too early to make judgments. Mayo Smith used to say, "Streaks breed streaks." I suppose the Nats just need to make sure that the winning variety are longer than the losing variety.
2. Felipe looks lost at the plate. He took two straight as an arrow fastballs and then waved at a pitch 10 inches off the plate. I feel bad for him. He looks like a guy who can sense his career going into the toilet.
3. Chad's injury has been the most important one so far. While it hasn't been glaring because Rauch hasn't cost them a game, I do think it has rearranged the roles that the relievers were expecting. It's probably put Colome into situations where Ayala or Rauch might have been in there. They need a healthy Chief.
4. Milledge to me looks like an average CF at best (OK, maybe I'll make a couple of judgments). I don't even like to way he catches routine fly balls with both of his elbows sticking out. It looks very awkward. The thing is that if he's really a corner OF, that makes his offense less valuable. We'll see though. It's early.
5. The 5-8 spots in this order don't do it for me. Maybe when WMP gets healthy, that will provide the catalyst for getting everyone else going. It certainly helped last year. Kearns, LoDuca, Belliard, and whoever the LF is just don't give me a lot of confidence that good consistent ABs will be taken. JayB's point about Lenny Harris is something to keep an eye. I agree that the hitters don't appear to have a plan.

Anyway, I'm making my first trip to the new ball yard tomorrow night. I can't wait to see it. I've purposefully avoided even visiting the site during construction. Let's hope the boys can send us home winners.

Posted by: #4 | April 6, 2008 6:28 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats fans, all of my comments are in good fun. I honestly think that you have a bright future, though I'm not sold on Millledge yet. But we have a great park up here at OPACY, why not come on up and check it out sometime soon. I might even make it down to see if your park is really that great (but I doubt it)!

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Nat fans...it's a 162 game season, of which one week does not make a season. Do not lose heart and realize this team will look better when Pena/Dukes & Hill return in a week, not to mention Chad (full pack) Cordero. Now, just get your fannies to Nats Park this week and support em.

Posted by: SC Nats Fan | April 6, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

"tom, am not a postie but i understand the printing process. home delivery is not set up to include rolled up separate items, i.e. the poster."

Well, over the years they've figured out how to deliver things like shampoo, soap, candy bars, laundry detergent, mouthwash and the like with the paper that lands on my driveway every morning. How hard would it have been to add a rolled-up poster to that list?

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 6, 2008 6:47 PM | Report abuse

The rolled up poster was too long. It would have been destroyed and ya'll would have griped about that.

I subscribe, but I bought the extra one at Safeway, got the stinkin' poster and gave the extra paper to a neighbor.

Is it really that big a deal? $1.50?

Posted by: NatsNut | April 6, 2008 6:50 PM | Report abuse

except this poster is significantly bigger than the paper. if you tried to roll the poster into the paper, it would stick out a foot. which means it would just get mangled. or that it would have to be folded, which would then make people unhappy.

Posted by: 231 | April 6, 2008 6:51 PM | Report abuse

You are in for a treat, #4. It is beautiful, IMO!

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Anyway, I'm making my first trip to the new ball yard tomorrow night. I can't wait to see it. I've purposefully avoided even visiting the site during construction.

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 6, 2008 6:55 PM | Report abuse

MORE WALKS......Good thing we did not "waste money" on Lohse or Livo....they would block all that AAA pitching talent.............Tyler Clippard took the loss allowing five runs (four earned) on seven hits and three walks over four innings

Posted by: JayB | April 6, 2008 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Low blow using my handle, man. Let's meet at Nationals Park and settle this over a beer and some dogs with Ben's Chili!

Posted by: natswriter | April 6, 2008 7:10 PM | Report abuse

O's Exec,

I think you are hilarious and I enjoy your ruthless dissections of our team/park/owners. Its all in good fun.

Posted by: natsinthevalley | April 6, 2008 7:15 PM | Report abuse

Can you guys answer a question for me? I'm a little confused....

Which MLB team from the Mid-Atlantic is over .500?

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

"Let me understand, I subscribe to the WaPo..."

Tom -

You've got to be kidding me. You won't pay $1.50 for a beautiful poster (no pun intended) that would be ruined if rolled up with the newspaper?? Not $1.50?? Please tell me you're kidding...

Posted by: Washington,DC | April 6, 2008 7:18 PM | Report abuse

After 3 years as a season ticket holder and die hard Nats Fan, I was expecting the quality of Baseball to be better after living through last years ugliness. Walks, Mental Errors in the field, on the bases and at the seem just as bad this year as last. Millidge getting picked off in the first inning with clean up hitter up......unacceptable. Not covering 3rd base on a bunt......unacceptable......Walking in the winning run.....unacceptable......2 passed balls leading to 2 runs.....unacceptable......

Sad to say but I think this time the real problem is Acta. He is still operating under a 'player development minor league' mindset. That approach was a one year exemption last year. This year I expect MLB baseball. I love the new park but it means nothing to me without a quantum leap in the quality of fundamental baseball. This is the Major League Manny, not single A Potomac and when your players make mental errors like they are in Potomac you need to kick some ass this year!

Posted by: JayB | April 6, 2008 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Wow, all it took was a week before Nat's fans started calling for the manager's head.


Boy, I bet opening day seems like it was ages go for Nat's fans doesn't it?


Great time to jump on board the O's bandwagon guys.

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

And I'm gay.

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 7:39 PM | Report abuse

I am gay, also.

Posted by: natswriter | April 6, 2008 7:53 PM | Report abuse

I, too, am gay.

Posted by: 419+1 | April 6, 2008 7:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm sad......I wanted a FA CFer and Lohse and Livo and Adam Everett as a Defensive SS to back up Guzman.....oh well

Posted by: JayB | April 6, 2008 7:58 PM | Report abuse

O's exec - I did not post the "gay" comment, so I resent you using my handle again.

Moderators -- time to cut this guy off.

JayB - hold off on criticizing Acta, the season is too young and he's earned some slack with the job he did last year.

And opening night will never fade - it's a sports memory I'll cherish for the rest of my life, I don't care what happens the rest of the season, nothing can tarnish it!

Posted by: natswriter | April 6, 2008 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Open Night was great and can not be tarnished but it is just one game and winning is the only thing that matters at this level. Nats need to understand that winning games is how they are judged not improved prospects or size of High Def Screens....but I do love it, I would trade it for a play off game any day!

Posted by: JayB | April 6, 2008 8:30 PM | Report abuse

WAPO - Is anyone monitoring this blog? O's Exec NEEDS TO BE BLOCKED NOW. You screwed around and let Caphcky TROLL AND TROLL and drive off some very nice people last September, and now you're just being negligent. THIS TROLL IS USING THE WAPO NATS FANSITE TO AIR SOME UGLY STUFF USING OTHER FOLKS' HANDLES. CUT HIM OFF. OR DON'T YOUR WEBMASTERS KNOW HOW?

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 8:38 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats Fans; No need to panic its still early but Manny needs to address a few things,I am here in the Atl. and have to put up with the arrogant Braves fans but not to worry I can hold my own. Why not give Willie Harris the position until WMP gets healthy He played well for the Braves last season and Lopez poor attitude last year and in spring training should not be rewarded with starts, get some of your young pitchers up here ASAP!! I was not impressed with the Paul LoDuca signing and so far his bat is lacking, Austin Kearns is clearly not the player he was purported to be,Lastings Miledge needs work in the field, should be taking fly balls every day.Manny can't and shouldn't tolerate lack of hustle or poor fundamentals,whether Lenny Harris is the answer as hitting coach time will tell but the Cardinals pitching staff ain't scaring nobody and the Nats should have fared better this weekend after what I saw in Philly last week.Lets give this team some leeway before we tank the season,Dimitri lose some weight Bro so you can help this team no excuse for comming to camp overweight and out of shape.Remember Manny Acta your team hits as a lineup not as individuals.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats Fans; No need to panic its still early but Manny needs to address a few things,I am here in the Atl. and have to put up with the arrogant Braves fans but not to worry I can hold my own. Why not give Willie Harris the position until WMP gets healthy He played well for the Braves last season and Lopez poor attitude last year and in spring training should not be rewarded with starts, get some of your young pitchers up here ASAP!! I was not impressed with the Paul LoDuca signing and so far his bat is lacking, Austin Kearns is clearly not the player he was purported to be,Lastings Miledge needs work in the field, should be taking fly balls every day.Manny can't and shouldn't tolerate lack of hustle or poor fundamentals,whether Lenny Harris is the answer as hitting coach time will tell but the Cardinals pitching staff ain't scaring nobody and the Nats should have fared better this weekend after what I saw in Philly last week.Lets give this team some leeway before we tank the season,Dimitri lose some weight Bro so you can help this team no excuse for comming to camp overweight and out of shape.Remember Manny Acta your team hits as a lineup not as individuals.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats Fans; No need to panic its still early but Manny needs to address a few things,I am here in the Atl. and have to put up with the arrogant Braves fans but not to worry I can hold my own. Why not give Willie Harris the position until WMP gets healthy He played well for the Braves last season and Lopez poor attitude last year and in spring training should not be rewarded with starts, get some of your young pitchers up here ASAP!! I was not impressed with the Paul LoDuca signing and so far his bat is lacking, Austin Kearns is clearly not the player he was purported to be,Lastings Miledge needs work in the field, should be taking fly balls every day.Manny can't and shouldn't tolerate lack of hustle or poor fundamentals,whether Lenny Harris is the answer as hitting coach time will tell but the Cardinals pitching staff ain't scaring nobody and the Nats should have fared better this weekend after what I saw in Philly last week.Lets give this team some leeway before we tank the season,Dimitri lose some weight Bro so you can help this team no excuse for comming to camp overweight and out of shape.Remember Manny Acta your team hits as a lineup not as individuals.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats Fans; No need to panic its still early but Manny needs to address a few things,I am here in the Atl. and have to put up with the arrogant Braves fans but not to worry I can hold my own. Why not give Willie Harris the position until WMP gets healthy He played well for the Braves last season and Lopez poor attitude last year and in spring training should not be rewarded with starts, get some of your young pitchers up here ASAP!! I was not impressed with the Paul LoDuca signing and so far his bat is lacking, Austin Kearns is clearly not the player he was purported to be,Lastings Miledge needs work in the field, should be taking fly balls every day.Manny can't and shouldn't tolerate lack of hustle or poor fundamentals,whether Lenny Harris is the answer as hitting coach time will tell but the Cardinals pitching staff ain't scaring nobody and the Nats should have fared better this weekend after what I saw in Philly last week.Lets give this team some leeway before we tank the season,Dimitri lose some weight Bro so you can help this team no excuse for comming to camp overweight and out of shape.Remember Manny Acta your team hits as a lineup not as individuals.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats Fans; No need to panic its still early but Manny needs to address a few things,I am here in the Atl. and have to put up with the arrogant Braves fans but not to worry I can hold my own. Why not give Willie Harris the position until WMP gets healthy He played well for the Braves last season and Lopez poor attitude last year and in spring training should not be rewarded with starts, get some of your young pitchers up here ASAP!! I was not impressed with the Paul LoDuca signing and so far his bat is lacking, Austin Kearns is clearly not the player he was purported to be,Lastings Miledge needs work in the field, should be taking fly balls every day.Manny can't and shouldn't tolerate lack of hustle or poor fundamentals,whether Lenny Harris is the answer as hitting coach time will tell but the Cardinals pitching staff ain't scaring nobody and the Nats should have fared better this weekend after what I saw in Philly last week.Lets give this team some leeway before we tank the season,Dimitri lose some weight Bro so you can help this team no excuse for comming to camp overweight and out of shape.Remember Manny Acta your team hits as a lineup not as individuals.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats Fans; No need to panic its still early but Manny needs to address a few things,I am here in the Atl. and have to put up with the arrogant Braves fans but not to worry I can hold my own. Why not give Willie Harris the position until WMP gets healthy He played well for the Braves last season and Lopez poor attitude last year and in spring training should not be rewarded with starts, get some of your young pitchers up here ASAP!! I was not impressed with the Paul LoDuca signing and so far his bat is lacking, Austin Kearns is clearly not the player he was purported to be,Lastings Miledge needs work in the field, should be taking fly balls every day.Manny can't and shouldn't tolerate lack of hustle or poor fundamentals,whether Lenny Harris is the answer as hitting coach time will tell but the Cardinals pitching staff ain't scaring nobody and the Nats should have fared better this weekend after what I saw in Philly last week.Lets give this team some leeway before we tank the season,Dimitri lose some weight Bro so you can help this team no excuse for comming to camp overweight and out of shape.Remember Manny Acta your team hits as a lineup not as individuals.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats Fans; No need to panic its still early but Manny needs to address a few things,I am here in the Atl. and have to put up with the arrogant Braves fans but not to worry I can hold my own. Why not give Willie Harris the position until WMP gets healthy He played well for the Braves last season and Lopez poor attitude last year and in spring training should not be rewarded with starts, get some of your young pitchers up here ASAP!! I was not impressed with the Paul LoDuca signing and so far his bat is lacking, Austin Kearns is clearly not the player he was purported to be,Lastings Miledge needs work in the field, should be taking fly balls every day.Manny can't and shouldn't tolerate lack of hustle or poor fundamentals,whether Lenny Harris is the answer as hitting coach time will tell but the Cardinals pitching staff ain't scaring nobody and the Nats should have fared better this weekend after what I saw in Philly last week.Lets give this team some leeway before we tank the season,Dimitri lose some weight Bro so you can help this team no excuse for comming to camp overweight and out of shape.Remember Manny Acta your team hits as a lineup not as individuals.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

OK Nats Fans; No need to panic its still early but Manny needs to address a few things,I am here in the Atl. and have to put up with the arrogant Braves fans but not to worry I can hold my own. Why not give Willie Harris the position until WMP gets healthy He played well for the Braves last season and Lopez poor attitude last year and in spring training should not be rewarded with starts, get some of your young pitchers up here ASAP!! I was not impressed with the Paul LoDuca signing and so far his bat is lacking, Austin Kearns is clearly not the player he was purported to be,Lastings Miledge needs work in the field, should be taking fly balls every day.Manny can't and shouldn't tolerate lack of hustle or poor fundamentals,whether Lenny Harris is the answer as hitting coach time will tell but the Cardinals pitching staff ain't scaring nobody and the Nats should have fared better this weekend after what I saw in Philly last week.Lets give this team some leeway before we tank the season,Dimitri lose some weight Bro so you can help this team no excuse for comming to camp overweight and out of shape.Remember Manny Acta your team hits as a lineup not as individuals.

Posted by: DARGREGMAG@AOL.COM | April 6, 2008 8:43 PM | Report abuse

WaPo Webmaster - WHY HASN'T O'S EXEC BEEN CUT OFF? DON'T YOU KNOW HOW? You let the troll caphcky hang around last September and lost some very nice people to this journal. I can go to a lot of other sites and not have to read this trash. Is that what you want?

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Has Lenny Harris even awake during the last 5 games? Has he beenin the clubhouse john when Lopez and Lo Duca are at the plate?

Here are Ladson Qoutes from Harris.....

"I don't feel bad about their play at all. They are doing well and hitting the ball at people. Don't get frustrated about the way you guys are swinging the bats. You have been fine."

Posted by: JayB | April 6, 2008 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Before you unleash Larry Bowa (Nick Johnson's uncle) or the ghost of Billy Martin on the clubhouse, remember that Manny was chosen to manage the Dominican team, and there is no more demanding or passionate fan-base than the DR's. Omar Minaya would have paid him 10x what he's getting now to mange the Mets if Mr. Bowden hadn't locked him up with a long term contract. Lenny Harris is the MLB leader for all-time as a pinch-hitter, the hardest thing to do in baseball. It's Sunday night, and that's rough enough for we littles who must return to the daily grind tomorrow. Go easy on our heroes, our home-town team. They make the week so much easier to bear.

Posted by: flynnie | April 6, 2008 9:04 PM | Report abuse

Orioles record: 4-1

Nats record: 3-4

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Games left to play: 157 and 155 respectively

Posted by: Hendo | April 6, 2008 9:10 PM | Report abuse

Hope that a little home cookin' will help those bats heat up again. Go Nats!

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 6, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I have to agree with Flynnie, as I do enjoy some playful banter...O's Exec just gets a little naiive and ridiculous sometimes...if he ever came up with an intelligent conversation then we'd be okay but all I hear is "Come down to OPACY (which honestly, other than O's fans...we think he's talking gibberish), and eat Crabcakes." Just get his IPs and cut him off. Thank you.

Posted by: svxcountry | April 6, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Luckily, flynnie and svxcountry don't speak for everyone....
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O's Exec,

I think you are hilarious and I enjoy your ruthless dissections of our team/park/owners. its all in good fun.

posted by: natsinthevalley| April 6, 2008 07:15 PM
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I also enjoy having O's Exec post on our board. He provides friendly banter, and don't worry guys, soon enough when his O's start to play the way everyone knows they will, we will have the upper hand on him.

Posted by: Nats Joe | April 6, 2008 9:42 PM | Report abuse

I don't mean I don't like his playful banter...at first I didn't really mind him at all. I just would like a little bit of a conversation instead of the same thing over and over again.

Posted by: svxcountry | April 6, 2008 10:00 PM | Report abuse

OK, I *really am* gay, and some a' youse is really losing your plate discipline. O's Expectorant is a troll, but yanno, he GETS TO DO THAT. Our team lost, the other guys are gonna get on our case, that's how it works. Grow up. It's only a [AB]'ing game.

Posted by: Mr In Between , really | April 6, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

JayB, I do have to say I think you are being a little quick to judge with Acta. He did a great job last year with a scrub team and now we expect a lot. Give it a month or two and we'll see how this all shakes out. I think we're going to see a lot of .500 ball this year.

Posted by: svxcountry | April 6, 2008 10:04 PM | Report abuse

"The rolled up poster was too long. It would have been destroyed and ya'll would have griped about that."

If it had been rolled the other way, longways rather than shortways (like a sleeping bag) it would have been exactly the with of the newspaper. Carriers could have had a stack of rolled-up posters in plastic bags and thrown them on the driveways alongside the rolled up newspapers in plastic bags. Sure, a few of them might have been damaged but then again there are newspapers damaged in delivery every day. If so, the subscriber could have called and got a replacement or bought a replacement themselves, just like they do with a damaged newspaper. Why didn't the Post just sell the posters for $1.50? Probably bcause they wanted to artificially jack up their circulation for a day by having subscribers like me buy two newspapers just so we could get one poster.

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 6, 2008 10:12 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, I understand subscribers don't want to have to go get one but it's only $1.50. I just don't understand all the griping. It forces people to get a paper like me who find the paper pretty much useless now with the invention of the internet and be able to read the same things on here.

Posted by: svxcountry | April 6, 2008 10:21 PM | Report abuse

all i can do is lol at that, 419.

first, either you haven't actually seen a poster or haven't actually looked at it next to the paper. even the short side of the poster is 10" longer than the rolled up paper. so you're 100% wrong on that account.

second, sure, newspapers are damaged every day, but they have a system in place to minimize that. the posters? not so much.

now, would it have made more sense to just sell them for $1.50? maybe. then again, would they be able to convince those stores (giant, safeway, 7-11, etc) to sell a separate item for them, new bar code and all? for a one time thing?

i questioned it at first, but it makes sense to me now.

Posted by: 231 | April 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

O's record 30-3 and 0-21, as in what other franchise has the distinction of getting destroyed by 27 runs and losing their first 21 games to start a season. Yeah real nice Organization, really.

Posted by: BigRoy | April 6, 2008 10:34 PM | Report abuse

30-3!!! are you effin' kidding me and just in case you were wondering, no, that will never be old news.

Posted by: BigRoy | April 6, 2008 10:35 PM | Report abuse

"even the short side of the poster is 10" longer than the rolled up paper. so you're 100% wrong on that account."

Okay, so it's 10" longer. Still could have been rolled up and bagged in a separate plastic bag and heaved up on the doorstep or the driveway by a carrier. So a few get damaged - like they did anything special to keep the ones in the boxes at the store from getting damaged. Clearly they had no intention of rewarding loyal subscribers but instead were just trying to jack up their circulation numbers for a day. It would be interesting to know - but we never will, of course - which number is higher, the number of new subscribers or regular buyers they'll pick up with this promotion, or the number of existing subscribers who bought a second paper today in order to get the poster and then heaved the paper into the recycle bin, like I did.

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 6, 2008 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone besides me curious about the way the Nats starting rotation is slotted? You have three consecutive lefthanders followed by two consecutive righthanders. I would like to see a little more balance like in a L-R-L-R-L rotation. Maybe that will change when (if?) Hill rejoins the starting staff.

Posted by: leetee1955 | April 6, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I think the Post was Bass Ackwards in this whole Opening Night Poster promotion. It just makes more sense to me that subscribers should have gotten the poster gratis, and non-subscribers who really wanted the keepsake could buy a paper. I really wanted a poster, but didn't want to shell out $1.59 (tax included) just for the poster and to unnecessarily buy and recycle a whole paper.

Posted by: natsscribe | April 6, 2008 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Honestly, I'm not sure the whining bunch of self-entitled crybabies here isn't worse than the occasional troll. gtfu.
Cheeeezes.

Posted by: Anonymous | April 6, 2008 11:12 PM | Report abuse

"I would just like to commend MASN for its brilliant and prize winning coverage of baseball in the Baltimore-Washington market. Always even handed and fair, MASN will be a fixture on our televisions for many years to come. So tune in to MASN and watch our beloved O's every night!"

Posted by: O's Exec | April 6, 2008 10:22 PM

Posted by: love | April 6, 2008 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, shame on me for expecting anything in return for being a Post home delivery subscriber since 1972. I suppose I should just shut up and read the paper, huh?

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 6, 2008 11:19 PM | Report abuse

this is what you expected in return? you mean, other than the paper you paid for over the last 36 years that is?

mountain, meet mole hill.

Posted by: 231 | April 6, 2008 11:20 PM | Report abuse

he probably doesn't even tip the delivery guy.

Posted by: Post Exec | April 6, 2008 11:29 PM | Report abuse

We just got back from a weekend in St. Louis and saw the Nats drop two very winnable games. Despite the losses, we had a great time on the road with the team. Zimmerman signed a ball for our three year old son and signed my opening day ticket. Being the only folks in the park with curly W's on our hats was a bit strange. And, while they lost they were not embarassing losses like last year's beginning as each game was winnable.

Posted by: Nats Fan in KC | April 6, 2008 11:44 PM | Report abuse

Okay, we get it. You are a long time subscriber of the WP! You want a poster free and didnt receive it! Where is your reward for loyalty?

One thing you forget to mention about the "But I get soap in the WP" argument is the advertisers pay for the soap to be inserted. The WP doesn't care if you bathe or use soap, they care if they get paid to give you soap. WP is not providing a public service to make sure all readers are hygienic.

You could run down to the 7-11, give them seven quarters, and take only a poster. You neednt bother with grabbing a paper - afterall, you have had it delivered since Nixon was president. And as a protest to the WP, for ripping the cost of a coke from your hands, cancel your subscription for a week.

Or send me your address and I'll mail you $1.75. I shall have $1.75 less under my couch cushions and you, sir, will have a shiny new poster, complements of someone that would like to change the topic.

Posted by: Los Doce Ocho | April 7, 2008 12:34 AM | Report abuse

Anybody know whether 3WT will be broadcasting this coming Friday's game, or will it be someone else? The Caps play their first playoff game that same day at 7pm.

Posted by: Juan-John | April 7, 2008 12:53 AM | Report abuse

Can't answer your query Juan-John, and for the record I am first and foremost a Nats fan, but just wanted to say that the phrase "The Caps play their first playoff game that same day at 7pm" is an amazingly unexpected and great thing to read...

Posted by: Nat del Negro | April 7, 2008 2:16 AM | Report abuse

Does anyone know what channel for HD Verizon will use for Monday's HD broadcast? In my TV guide it says that channel 20 (CW) will broadcast the game. Does this mean that channel 20's (CW) HD channel (808 on Verizon) will be used or will MASN have it's own HD channel on Verizon? I looked on MASN's website and the Verizon listing for HD says "TBD" (To be decided?).

Thanks!

Posted by: Nick in Germantown | April 7, 2008 2:49 AM | Report abuse

So, does this explain why Zim had a poor series against the Phillies?

From today's Philadelphia Inquirer:

* Washington Nationals third baseman Ryan Zimmerman put away a bottle of Absolut 100, mixed with Sprite, over two nights at Public House (18th & Cherry) last week. Pitcher Jon Rauch sipped black and tans. *

Posted by: swanni | April 7, 2008 4:07 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Swanni - Vodka and sprite? Could they make that up, even in Philly? Ewwww! That's why God made Advil!

Posted by: flynnie | April 7, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

If it were the other way 'round, I wouldn't be worried. How much would it take for Rauch, at 6'11" to get a buzz? And that's why liquor was invented. Zimmerman at 6'3" is a big guy, and is entitled to relax with a cocktail or three. But killing a bottle of vodka in two nights? That's getting hammered.

Posted by: flynnie | April 7, 2008 5:11 AM | Report abuse

The Inquirer actually recognized Nats platers? Perhaps I am less surprised because Zim is our most well-known, and Rauch is easy to spot.

Even still, it is funny in that it makes it sound like the pub set aside a bottle for Zim and held it for him from one night to the next. That sounds unlikely.

Either way, Zimmerman had 6 hits in the series, and is hitting .290. He doesn't seem to have gone overboard. Some of the folks in this conversation sure went overboard this weekend, though! We need a victory to calm us down.

Posted by: Positively Half St. | April 7, 2008 5:11 AM | Report abuse

Good morning, +Half Street - The greatest hitter in the National League, West Virginia's own Hack Wilson of the Cubs, would report to Wrigley so drunk that his teammates would revive him in a bath of ice water. His 58 home runs was the National League record until the juicers arrived (most of whom seemed to be managed by Tony LaRussa.) And here's to victory, or at least a calmer attitude that befits the pastoral rhythm of the game. But, considering fans in Boston, New York (especially Yankee fans), and Philly, ours are not the first to use baseball as an excuse to vent their spleen.

Posted by: flynnie | April 7, 2008 5:20 AM | Report abuse

Of course, Hack's story has a sad end. He made anti-alcohol testimonials on Baltimore radio as he was dying of cirhosis. On a happier note, I scored 2 p0sters at the 7-11 just now, and intend to reserve one for prestigious autographs - NatsFan1a, NatsNut, Hendo, estuartj, Bob Head, Catcher 50, Swanni, MKevin, ihatewalks, CE, Juan John, Dale, Wiggi (in salmon colored ink); #4; 419+1; 350 (before moving);lowcountrynatsfan; svxnatsfan; JohninMpls, positivelyhalf street, Jeeves, JayB, theraph, all the greats. If I left you out, it's my bad - these pre-coffee posts and my memory are treacherous.

Posted by: flynnie | April 7, 2008 5:36 AM | Report abuse

And, thank you WaPo, the posters are beautiful!

Posted by: flynnie | April 7, 2008 5:37 AM | Report abuse

Right flynnie-vodka and sprite! That almost lost Zim his position as Jeeve's favorite player. Now a good merlot, mmm. These boys need to work on their taste.

Posted by: Jeeves | April 7, 2008 6:50 AM | Report abuse

Howdy,Jeeves - Did you see Sideways, the movie starring Paul Giamatti, son of former Yale Literature Professor and Commissioner of Baseball (who caught Pete Rose and banned him)? He plays a wine fanatic who hates - Merlot! Anyhow, point taken, but young fellas are gonna get likkered up, and Zimm is from Tidewater, where it's a hallowed tradition. And, for your reading pleasure, once your done with Jeeves, Wodehouse wrote "A Golf Omnibus" which he begins by recalling a life-long ambition realized. He at last won a golf tournament. It was in South Carolina (I believe he was in his in his 90's!) "The field was composed of the fattest businessmen I have ever seen collected in one place. I set upon them like a devouring flame."

Posted by: flynnie | April 7, 2008 7:12 AM | Report abuse

Yeah WaPo, thank you for the poster. Really nice! And I think it's a size for which we can go out & buy a standard frame, unlike last year's team photo.

As for Zim & the vodka, for his sake I hope it isn't true.

Posted by: Section 109 | April 7, 2008 7:38 AM | Report abuse

flynnie --

Does this mean we're going to arrange an NJ meet-up to sign your poster? I might bring mine and a sharpie, too. :)

And if the vodka-sprite thing is true (and who really cares if it is), remember: He's like 23 (so he's young enough to either know how to handle it or it is about time to learn), he's single (so staying in the pub is more fun than going back to the room), and he's a professional athlete so his body can likely process it a lot faster than mine.

Although, someone *should* tell him about Belvedere. (Zimm, there's better vodka out there) Of course, you don't drink Absolut 100 for the taste (hence the Sprite).

With the weather report, heavy workload tomorrow, and the game broadcast in HD I don't think tonight will be my first $5 walk-up ticket into the Park (I guess you can't buy those tickets online, even day-of-game?) ... although I would like to be in the stands rooting for Redding. I'll have to find a place with a clueful bartender, MASN, a HD screen, and Yuengling near Falls Church.

C'mon Nats! Let's win this one tonight and trade that half game back for a half game lead!

Posted by: i hate walks | April 7, 2008 7:57 AM | Report abuse

I'd be honored, i hate walks. Hendo, NatsFan1a, Jennx, estuartj, Bob L. Head, you are wily crafty veterans at this stuff, having done it at least once. How 'bout it? RFK parking lot 8 when the weather gets nice?

Posted by: flynnie | April 7, 2008 8:18 AM | Report abuse

Another pitching data question for whomever:

How do the Nationals' starting pitchers rank against other teams in terms of total innings pitched? What about K, BB, and runs against?

Posted by: i hate walks | April 7, 2008 8:25 AM | Report abuse

Morning all! Re. Zimmerman, maybe he was buying drinks for others as well, or maybe the Inquirer's source is not reliable. ;)

Re. another NJ gathering (and you're sweet, flynnie, and I think that I'd need to get your autograph in return), we've been shooting for Sunday, April 27, when John in Mpls and the Cubs will be in town. Mike and I ran into each other at the open house on Saturday and were discussing this.

One possibility would be another Lot 8 tailgate, but we aren't sure how early the RFK lots will open (the shuttle starts 1.5 hours before game time, which would not leave much time for tailgating and travel to Nats Park for the first pitch). For this initial '08 gathering, we were thinking that meeting up inside Nats Park might be easier logistically (each person would either bring their own food and water or purchase it inside the park). Maybe we could even convince the Blogfather to stop by.

Also, some NJ denizens have already purchased tix for the July 4 P-Nats game at the Pfitz (the parent Nats are away on that day but the P-Nats will play at home and will have a fireworks display after). We're thinking that the July event could be a standard tailgate.

So get your tix if you haven't already done so, Contingency, uh Constituency, and watch this space for details.

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 8:42 AM | Report abuse

Dang! I forgot to use another constituent's moniker in that posting and was unable to stop the transmission after I realized what I'd done - nooooooooooo! At any rate, I hope to put some more names/faces to monikers in April and/or July.

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 8:46 AM | Report abuse

I'm back! And I'm posting, so that means Barry is about to put up a new post. How is everyone, do we have to talk anyone off a ledge? Boy Lannan looked like a wily vet yesterday. Finding a way to get out of everything.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | April 7, 2008 8:57 AM | Report abuse

Flynnie-

I'm looking forward to meeting you and the rest of our slice of Constituency at some games this year. I considered tonight, but remembered my wife has Girls Scout camp training of some sort. This kind of thing will recur for me.

Posted by: Positively Half St | April 7, 2008 8:58 AM | Report abuse

I'm back, too, in fact, from a weekend of camping with my Girl Scout daughter, which is kind of a coincidence given the previous two posts.

We're due for a breakout tonight.

Posted by: Bob L. Head | April 7, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Re: vodka & Sprite - I just hope he knows about B vitamins (Take one with food before you go to bed. Smokers, too, should note this.)
A message from your friends at NJ.

Posted by: CE | April 7, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

DATA! Surprises!

Let me preface this by saying that I'm not a professional data-munger, but I may sometimes play one in cyberspace.

Next, let me disclaim that the data came from baseball-reference.com and is subject to their inaccuracies, which are rare.

Here's a link to the spreadsheet (google docs) if you want to peruse it yourself:

http://tinyurl.com/4rbgy5

I've only done this for the NL East, and just one week in there isn't a lot to project from, so be careful.

Note that this ONLY considers PITCHERS WHO HAVE STARTED GAMES THIS YEAR.

First the zeroes: In the division there have been no complete games, no shutouts (credited to starters), and no balks (by starters). :)

Nats starters have the most innings pitched (39.3) , and thus have faced the most opposing batters (169). So to get a more direct comparison I've divided the number of walks and strikeouts by the number of innings, as these are the most direct impacts a pitcher has on a game.

Walks (BB) given up by starters per inning:

WSH: 0.38
NYM: 0.26
FLA: 0.50
ATL: 0.26
PHI: 0.41

Similarly, strikeouts (K) by starters per inning:

WSH: 0.64
NYM: 0.92
FLA: 0.93
ATL: 0.76
PHI: 0.52

And although I'm no Bill James I've gone off the deep end and divided Ks by BBs to get a number which probably has a better name than "suck factor" but this is how the NL East ranks in that (from worst to first):

PHI: 0.78
WSH: 0.60
FLA: 0.54
ATL: 0.35
NYM: 0.28

So again, the season is young but already the key is clear: Striking out more batters and giving away fewer bases are key indicators to success.

Maybe later this data can be worked for the non-starting pitchers, but after seeing that ours have worked the most in the division I just went with that.

Your comments on my math or results are welcome.

Posted by: i hate walks | April 7, 2008 9:51 AM | Report abuse

How does an out of towner procur a poster? I'd love to frame one and hang it on my "Nats Wall" down here in SC.

Posted by: SC Nats Fan | April 7, 2008 9:53 AM | Report abuse

Simple solution to the Nats Poster with Sunday's paper: WaPo should have put a coupon for a free poster for the home delivery folks. They could take the coupon to the store and get a free poster. I know it's only $1.50, but there should be some benefits for being a home subscriber ...

And my goodness, a lot of people in here are ready to give up on the season already. It's been one week. Patience.

2008: 3-4 (1-0 home / 2-4 road)
2007: 1-6 (1-6 home / 0-0 road)

Redding pitched great. Lannan pitched great. Bergmann actually pitched very well then the bullpen imploded. I'll take three good starts in the first week (a helluva lot better than last year).

And hey, the BoSox are 3-4 and the Tigers are 0-6.

BTW ... did anyone make it to the open house at the stadium on Saturday? I was supposed to go on Friday, but that got cancelled due to the weather (which, by the way, it didn't rain at all Friday night). I couldn't make it on Saturday due to my daughter's 3rd birthday party. How was the tour??

Posted by: e | April 7, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

SC Nats Fan, I'll see if there are extra posters at the CVS near my house and if so, will buy one for you. Anyone else want to get on the list?

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | April 7, 2008 10:05 AM | Report abuse

tnks 506...I'll make it up there one day this season : < ))

Posted by: SC Nats Fan | April 7, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

"How does an out of towner procur a poster? I'd love to frame one and hang it on my "Nats Wall" down here in SC."

Make a friend in DC, have them go to Safeway/Giant/7-11, buy a paper and pick one up for you. You'll have to arrange with your new friend on how you'll get it shipped to you. Do you want the Sunday newspaper with all the useless advertising inserts as well? If so, that will really jack up your shipping cost, because that Sunday paper is one heavy sucker - although probably more than 50% of it is ads, so tell your friend to chuck those sections before they ship and you'll save a few bucks. Right now, that's the only way anyone can get one of these posters. Hmmm, I wonder if any of them are up on eBay yet?

This has been my point all along, that the poster is nothing more than a stunt for the Post to jack up its circulation number for one day. Nothing wrong with them doing that, either. All I have done is point out, when challenged by other NJ posters that it would have been *absolutely impossible* for them to have delivered the poster to subscribers, that indeed it would have been very easy for them to do it - if they had wanted to. They didn't want to do it, so they didn't. That's all. If y'all think that pointing that out represents a sense of entitlement on my part, then God forbid you ever have to deal with someone who really does have a sense of entitlement.

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 7, 2008 10:10 AM | Report abuse

506 (Before moving, good to hear from you again! JayB thinks that Lenny Harris was in the john during LoDuca's and Lopez's at bats when he told Bill Ladson that they were swinging the bat well. Colome walking in the winning run in Philly. Many are apoplectic at the walks and wild pitches. And i need your autograph on my WaPo Poster I got yeaterday.

Posted by: flynnie | April 7, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Also, very disappointed in Zimm about the sprite and vodka. C'mon, have a man's drink, get some whiskey.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | April 7, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the summary, flynnie! Seems like it's same ol', same ol'!

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | April 7, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

anyone going to the game tonight?

Posted by: theraph | April 7, 2008 10:16 AM | Report abuse

Smokers has been hitting the vodka as well? Oh my! He seems like such a nice young man. What? You meant people who smoke? Oh. Never mind. p.s. Josh Smoker!!

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Re: vodka & Sprite - I just hope he knows about B vitamins (Take one with food before you go to bed. Smokers, too, should note this.)
A message from your friends at NJ.

Posted by: Emily Litella | April 7, 2008 10:24 AM | Report abuse

I went. It was fun to watch the game on the mammoth scoreboard. They should do that at least once a year, IMO. I didn't take a formal tour (don't think that they were being offered that day), but I did walk around the entire park. Whenever I came across a construction worker I thanked them for their work.

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BTW ... did anyone make it to the open house at the stadium on Saturday? I was supposed to go on Friday, but that got cancelled due to the weather (which, by the way, it didn't rain at all Friday night). I couldn't make it on Saturday due to my daughter's 3rd birthday party. How was the tour??

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 10:27 AM | Report abuse

*snicker*

i keep intending to let this go, but you keep making specious claims (like the one earlier where you said if rolled the other way it *would* be the same length as the paper, even though it would be 10-12" longer). nobody said it was *absolutely impossible*, those are your words. people have been pointing out the hurdles to doing what you preferred, not saying it was *absolutely impossible* (or implying impossibility).

while i didn't use the word entitled (someone else did), i can understand why they got that impression. the whole "expect ing something in return" for "being a Post home delivery subscriber since 1972." as i pointed out, what you got for being the delivery subscriber since 1972 was a paper delivered every day for 36 years. i've been a subscriber for nearly as long (longer if you include my parents paying for it for me before that) and i don't see it that way. i found it to me a minor annoyance, at best.

still, if it really bothers you that much, have to complained directly to the post instead of on the nationals blog? that would seem to be a more effective way of making your point. of course, maybe next time the opportunity comes up, they'll just choose to not print a poster at all so they don't annoy a home subscriber who doesn't get it delivered to them.

Posted by: 231 | April 7, 2008 10:36 AM | Report abuse

An idea that might be fun would be to schedule a tour of Nationals Park for readers of this blog. Check out the Nats Web site for details on how this is done. Tours are given on off days and I bet it would be a good way to see the interior workings of the park. I might even make my way north to do that. If it could be scheduled for a day or two before the team comes returns from a road trip, I could get tickets to a game or two before heading south again. I am hoping to catch a series in Atlanta with the Nats as it's only about a 4 hour drive for me.

Posted by: SC Nats Fan | April 7, 2008 10:37 AM | Report abuse

"anyone going to the game tonight?

Posted by: theraph | April 7, 2008 10:16 AM"
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I'll be there! Missed the ESPN opening night, but not this one.

Posted by: Juan-John | April 7, 2008 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Theraph, I'm not going tonight, but if I were, I'd want to check out the "Natcast" below:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitalweathergang/natcast/

(I posted the link because I thought people might like to be reminded of this service, but for the record, it says 50 degrees with a 15% chance of drizzle.)

Posted by: Bob L. Head | April 7, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I like the group tour idea, SC!

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 10:46 AM | Report abuse

natsfan1a...kind of like a reunion of the RFK tailgate last season, only I'm sure the blogfather won't be able to be there as he'll likely be on the road with the team.

Posted by: SC Nats Fan | April 7, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

Stop feeding the Troll (O's Exec) and he will go away. If you continue to acknowledge his presence he will continue his idiotic posts.

Posted by: Section 505/203 | April 7, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

"I went. It was fun to watch the game on the mammoth scoreboard." --natsfan1a

I thought it was awful how bad the SD looked on that big HD screen. MASN stinks. What an embarrassment. The game looked like I was watching an Internet stream (okay, without the weird hiccups and stalls).

But I loved the idea. I hope that when the Nats make the playoffs they will open the park to let fans watch and cheer away games together (apparently this is common in hockey, according to one friend of mine). The additional revenue from concessions can't possibly hurt too badly.

Posted by: i hate walks | April 7, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

In addition to the concessions, there was additional revenue from the team stores that were open on Saturday.

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

True, the blogfather would likely be away at a road game on a group stadium tour day.

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natsfan1a...kind of like a reunion of the RFK tailgate last season, only I'm sure the blogfather won't be able to be there as he'll likely be on the road with the team.

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

That last was courtesy of the Department of Redundancy Department. :)

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I said: "In addition to the concessions, there was additional revenue from the team stores that were open on Saturday."

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

do you think this would ever happen here? i dont.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-angrep6apr06,1,984183.story

Posted by: theraph | April 7, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

I noticed when Zimmerman reached 1st in the 9th, he put on his left hand what appeared to be a brace. A bit thicker with padding in relation to a batting glove. Has he always done this? I hadn't noticed. Maybe precautionary?

Posted by: Los Doce Ocho | April 7, 2008 11:06 AM | Report abuse

"Smokers has been hitting the vodka as well? Oh my! He seems like such a nice young man. What? You meant people who smoke? Oh. Never mind. p.s. Josh Smoker!!"

I was more excited because I thought there was more than one Josh Smoker.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | April 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

Couple of notes:

First, I tend to disagree with much of Flynnie's opinions (very down and seem to be a baseless attack against the Lerners), but he makes a very interesting point about many of the juicers being managed by Tony L. I don't and wouldn't say that he encouraged the use of such substances, but he probably provided an atmosphere that would foster the use of such.

Second, I am in favor of free speech and anyone's "right" to get onto blogs, but, we did lose some correspondents at the end of last year because of some of the posters that appeared. In fact, that is one of the reasons that I have not been as involved, here, as I had been previously. I know that on the SABR list, folks like O's Exec would be quickly banned. It may be that the great downside of the internet is that there are no editors. At some point, it really is up to the WaPo to provide a reasonable set of rules and enforce them.

Posted by: Catcher50 | April 7, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

L-D-O,
I read somewhere that Zim's been wearing the brace since his surgery.

Posted by: NatsNut | April 7, 2008 11:12 AM | Report abuse

"do you think this would ever happen here? i dont."

(A story about the owner of the Angels buying t-shirts and hats for 30-40 fans, billed as an "impromptu shopping spree in the team's gift store").

No, I don't think so either. The Lerners seem like nice, low key people, and I doubt that they'd spring for $300 or $400 worth of merchandise (in the context of a multi-million dollar business) and then act like they'd cured world hunger.

Posted by: joebleux | April 7, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

"still, if it really bothers you that much, have to complained directly to the post instead of on the nationals blog?"

It doesn't bother me all that much, if at all. But for some reason it does seem to bother you and others that I initially pointed out that the Post *could* have provided a copy of the poster to subscribers *if it had wanted to*. I have never said that I expected to get a poster with my subscription copy, just that they could have done it if they had wanted to. Looking back over this thread (and boy, could you even find a bigger waste of time?) I did see that I used the word "expect" once, after someone called me a whining, self-entitled crybaby. Let me clarify that expectation for you. I would expect that people could separate someone offering a relatively mild criticism of the Post from someone being a whining, self-entitled crybaby. Unfortunately, in this blog my expectations haven't been met.

You know, if y'all would ease up and quit being so protective of the Post any time someone dares to say a single bad word about it here, these threads wouldn't happen. After all, the Post's guidelines for this blog do say "We encourage users to analyze, comment on and even challenge washingtonpost.com's articles, blogs, reviews and multimedia features." If y'all would just let those of us who want to offer a criticism of the Post do it without jumping all over us, these threads wouldn't be escalating and getting out of hand - which is inevitably what someone will complain about. When looking to assign blame, I don't think I and the others who offer an occasional criticism of the Post are the real guilty parties.

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 7, 2008 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Please add me to the expatriate poster list!

Thanks for the stats IHW's. I'm pleased that the Nats starters have thrown the most innings to date - that is a big change from last year (although, it is still very early).

Posted by: lowcountry | April 7, 2008 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Frankly, 419+1, you've not said anything about baseball this whole thread. I did my own little time-wasting review and you've posted a lengthy gripe about Cox, plus 4 more explanations/gripes why the Post COULD have sent the posters to subscribers. Nobody else has spent that much time griping about the posters. Only you.

Posted by: NatsNut | April 7, 2008 11:40 AM | Report abuse

I'll second the thanks to IHW for the stats.

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Hey, there is a baseball game tonight, at home in our new stadium in Washington DC! Can Tim Redding do that again? Will the Nats' bats wake up against Andrew Miller, the talented 22-year old in his second season sporting a 10.39 ERA? I say, yes and yes! Go Nats!

Posted by: Bob L. Head | April 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

You know what's the worst thing about losing streaks? Everyone gets testy.

Win, Nats, we need some positivity!

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | April 7, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

for those that are going tonight. anyone in sec 106? im in row G.

Posted by: theraph | April 7, 2008 11:59 AM | Report abuse

i won't comment on the poster debate any more, other than to say i wasn't defending the post as much as pointing out fallacies i saw in the criticism of the post's handling of the posters. (and yes, i realize that tends to be one of my weaknesses, pointing out fallacies in arguments that often derail the conversation.)

yes, let's start a new streak. this one is getting annoying. maybe the new park will rejuvenate our boys.

Posted by: 231 | April 7, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I'm another 30-year WP subscriber, and don't have any problem with the poster arrangement. Indeed, I forgot to buy one yesterday, so went out this morning, found a Giant which had 1 good one left, and bought it. It is terrific; thanks!

I don't get complaining about this--this is a nice thing the WP did, the poster is well worth the $1.50 and the complaints seem rather ungracious to me.

As for the Nats, hopefully they got that losing streak out of their system and will return to their winning ways tonight. Yesterday was just ugly, offensively, and even worse they got swept by the town in which my in-laws live! Ugh.

Posted by: NatsFly | April 7, 2008 12:08 PM | Report abuse

"Frankly, 419+1, you've not said anything about baseball this whole thread. I did my own little time-wasting review and you've posted a lengthy gripe about Cox, plus 4 more explanations/gripes why the Post COULD have sent the posters to subscribers. Nobody else has spent that much time griping about the posters. Only you."

Frankly, NatsNut, I posted one gripe about Cox (regarding their baseball game coverage), one comment about the poster, and then three responses to people who challenged what I had said about the poster. But who's counting, anyway?

But let me make it easier for y'all. This will be my last post here, so from now on my count will be ZERO. Have fun chatting with O's Exec, and see you at the park! (Nationals Park, that is, unless you start taking O's Exec's advice.)

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 7, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

i'm sorry you feel that way, 419, wasn't trying to chase you away. i hope that you're just in a bad mood and will reconsider.

Posted by: 231 | April 7, 2008 12:25 PM | Report abuse

(sound of doorknob bump)

Posted by: Anonymous | April 7, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

nats blog poster fight
off day after ugly loss --
sound of doorknob

Posted by: G. Thompson | April 7, 2008 12:28 PM | Report abuse

But let me make it easier for y'all. This will be my last post here, so from now on my count will be ZERO. Have fun chatting with O's Exec, and see you at the park! (Nationals Park, that is, unless you start taking O's Exec's advice.)

Posted by: Section 419+1 | April 7, 2008 12:14 PM
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Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya. Adios and good riddance.

Posted by: Ken | April 7, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

cherry blossom branch
One oriole is sitting --
dog day for exec

Posted by: G. Thompson | April 7, 2008 12:31 PM | Report abuse

419, shhh, don't go storming off. NatsNut, you're frustrated, I see, tone down lashing out a tad. Everyone seems to have an opinion on this poster, I guess the requisite 506 GHF reading is: "Awesome, everyone thinks a first pitch poster is something worthwhile."

I think, in a couple days, you'd find there were some good points made and also some sound and fury all around. Let's de-escalate (to borrow a nonsensical term) and agree to a cease-fire just for a day.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | April 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

For the love of Pete, Barry, post SOMETHING! Did Hill make it from Florida in one day? Or did he stop in one of the Carolinas? Did he stay at a Days Inn or a Marriot? How did you find Panera this year? True or False: "Trace" is Son Volt's finest album.

Some of our friends are taking their balls (not their posters) and going home ...

Posted by: Capitol Hill | April 7, 2008 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Well, I hope you're all satisfied now.

Posted by: CE | April 7, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

New post. I'm drunk with power (and vodka and Sprite) now.

Posted by: Capitol Hill | April 7, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

"You know, if y'all would ease up and quit being so protective of the Post any time someone dares to say a single bad word about it here, these threads wouldn't happen."

Here some bad words about the Post for you 419:

It's a Liberal Rag. But, it does have a great sports page. Maybe that was too positive. Oh well, I tried.

We do need a new post from Barry soon and a win tonight. People are starting to getting a little snippy in here.

Posted by: Section 505/203 | April 7, 2008 12:51 PM | Report abuse

Don't leave, 419+1.

Posted by: i hate walks | April 7, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, don't go, 419+1.

Plus, Barry has a new post.

Posted by: natsfan1a | April 7, 2008 1:04 PM | Report abuse

But as for you, O's Exec, the door's always open.

Posted by: Nats Exec | April 7, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

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