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We're all day-to-day (or DL-bound)

It looks like Odalis Perez is heading to the disabled list. He'll miss his next start, Manager Manny Acta said after today's game. (Washington's 10th loss in 12 games.)

Perez hasn't pitched since June 3, so if he's placed on the disabled list -- "a possibility," Acta said -- the transaction can be retroactive to June 4. Tyler Clippard, the most likely replacement, started for Washington on Monday, allowing three runs in 4-1/3 innings; slotting him to start Saturday would enable him to pitch on the standard four day's rest.

Perez believes he'll miss just one more start. He plans to either throw in the bullpen or perform long toss tomorrow in Seattle.

"I just want to be 100-percent ready to go," Perez said. "I don't want to be pitching uncomfortable."

Also, Aaron Boone left the game today in the sixth with a neck spasm.

He'll be alright, he said, and likely back in the lineup within a day or two.

"It's the right side of my neck," he said. "I've had some occasional neck and back issues, where I just spas 'em up."

He wasn't looking forward to the flight to Seattle, he added.

By Chico Harlan  |  June 12, 2008; 5:00 PM ET
 
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I Gotta say, my favorite nat at this point in time is Elijah Dukes. He swings a great bat and doesn't take **** from anyone - especially that fool Manny Acta. Go get 'em "Dawg".

Posted by: Woof | June 12, 2008 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Also, Aaron Boone left the game today in the sixth with a neck spasm.

He'll be alright, he said, and likely back in the lineup within a day or two.

--Chico

New to these parts eh, Chico.......10 Days he will see a doctor, then 15 day DL..........

Posted by: JayB | June 12, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

My neck hurts from the whiplash of watching repeated Doumit homeruns. Where is Dr. Shaffer?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse

As long as we are discussing DL candidates, here's some more on Aaron Crow's pitching motion (linked from Hardball Times):
http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/ProfessionalPitcherAnalyses/AaronCrow.html

Posted by: PTBNL | June 12, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

All this talk about pitching motion is a load of garbage. It doesn't matter what your motion is, it won't put you on the DL if you're a good pitcher.

Posted by: Pedro Martinez | June 12, 2008 5:35 PM | Report abuse

There's a pretty decent debate about the motion - there seems to be agreement that the "hook" of his hand behind his back as he loads up isn't a big deal. Of more concern (maybe) is the "inverted W" or "inverted L" he makes (as do a lot of other pitchers) with his elbows as he comes forward. O'Leary doesn't like it (but I think he's got about as much medical training as I do = none). Driveline mechanics (http://drivelinemechanics.com/2008/04/06/quick-note-aaron-crow/) doesn't particularly like it either, but saber-scouting (http://www.saberscouting.com/2008/03/28/aaroncrowmechanalysis/) concludes "So, unless teams are convinced (and it sure sounds like they aren't, neither am I) that he's going to have chronic elbow problems or multiple TJ surgeries, it'll be pretty hard to put another pitcher ahead of him in this draft, and I can't see him out of the top 3 overall unless there is a serious injury, serious drop in performance, or serious makeup revelations, none of which anyone sees happening."

SO there's that - the "wrist wrap" may not be a big deal, the "inverted L" may be, depending on how much you believe O'Leary and DLM.

Posted by: Aaron Crow's Mom | June 12, 2008 5:48 PM | Report abuse

So, with Boone out...

Young - DH
Belliard - 5
Casto - 3

?

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | June 12, 2008 6:00 PM | Report abuse

This team is starting to feel like those early expansion Senators who finished 61-100, 61-101, 56-106 (yikes!) and 62-100 the team's first four years. Is there a strong prospect for the No. 1 pick in the 2009 first-year draft?

Posted by: leetee1955 | June 12, 2008 6:16 PM | Report abuse

That's okay - I still love him.

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New to these parts eh, Chico.......

Posted by: Chico's dog | June 12, 2008 7:37 PM | Report abuse

I see Crow's delivery and I see, much like a young Mark Prior, an injury waiting to happen. I find it disturbing how many pitchers are shelved with arm and elbow injuries these days - especially when it happens to relative youngsters. I am convinced that Mike Marshall (he if the 1974 Cy Young and several Fireman of the Year awards) has the secrets. He earned his doctorate in kinesiology and has spent a lifetime studying and developing pitching mechanics. If more pitchers listened to him, arm injuries could be a thing of the past. Check it out: www.drmikemarshall.com

Posted by: Doctor Joe | June 12, 2008 7:43 PM | Report abuse

Bill James said that with prospects such as Crow, the decision should be based 95% on scouting and 5% on sabermetrics. If our scouts are good, and judging from the Diamondbacks where we stole most of them, they are, then our draft will be as good as it can be, which means that 1 in 3 pitchers make it to the bigs. After July 24, 2006, I had read of scouts complaining that the Lerners were nickle and diming them. Did we lose any from the organization? Does Rizzo have the guys he wants? I hope all of our pitchers visit your website, Dr. Joe.

Posted by: flynnie | June 12, 2008 8:24 PM | Report abuse

"spas 'em up" or "smasm up"?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 8:26 PM | Report abuse

for those of you who advocate the nats signing retread veteran starting pitchers as free agents....

MILWAUKEE -- The Milwaukee Brewers have cut ties with veteran right-hander Jeff Weaver, releasing him from their Triple-A Nashville affiliate Thursday.

Weaver signed with Milwaukee and agreed to pitch in the minor leagues in April after no team was willing to give him a job in the major leagues. He went 2-4 with a 6.22 ERA in nine starts in Nashville.

Posted by: natsscribe | June 12, 2008 8:29 PM | Report abuse

Grampa Boz will be doing a "dual" chat tomorrow - on baseball AND golf - from the U.S. Open. Maybe he can get the Nats good tee times in October.

Posted by: leetee1955 | June 12, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

JayB called it with the Boone-to-the-DL prediction. And why do they insult our intelligence with the estimates for Johnson's return? Does anybody in the NJ (Nats' Journal) community seriously think NJ (Nicky boy) will play again this year?

Chico, you've probably got enough on your hands, but could Sheinen do that comparison of Nats' DL visits with those of other clubs over the past 4 years? If we consistently are losing more players for more days than others then it's probably more than just "bad luck."

Posted by: CapPeterson | June 12, 2008 9:08 PM | Report abuse

And for those who championed the addition of one Livan "Hot Plate" Hernandez:
His line tonight:

L Hernandez 3.0 12 7 7 0 1 2 70-48 5.84


Where is Ryan Drese when we need him?

Posted by: Anonymous | June 12, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Grampa Boz will be doing a "dual" chat tomorrow - on baseball AND golf - from the U.S. Open. Maybe he can get the Nats good tee times in October.

Posted by: leetee1955 | June 12, 2008 8:41 PM

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What do you think Boz will take more of, O's questions or Nat's questions?

Posted by: O's Exec | June 12, 2008 9:20 PM | Report abuse

Part of the reason I pointed to the article on the pitching motion is that I have not heard much of a grain of salt about predictions for him. It's the only contrarian stuff I've seen. Most had him the #2 pitcher and top RHP.

Also, this relates some to those who have wondered about the medical evaluations that the Nats do for their players. I believe Catcher50 has raised this quite a bit, and others of course have been all over the major league training and medical staff.

We (Planet NJ) tend to expect to high of % of these draft choices to pay off. I'll root for the guy, like I'm rooting for Detwiler and Balester, and I'll feel real good if one of these guys realizes his potential.

Posted by: PTBNL | June 12, 2008 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Since when?
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I hate afternoon losses. You can't even drink during them.
Posted by: Bob L. Head | June 12, 2008 3:39 PM


I have to say - after reading this evenings posts - NJ posts, like all great literature, thrives on misery. "Boone's whiplash," "new to these parts," . . . LOL.

Posted by: lowcountry | June 12, 2008 9:33 PM | Report abuse

At some point you just have to say enough is enough...this team isn't worth the scorecard it is written on...

Blow it up, the pitching, both starting and relief has no future, and neither do the position players on this team.

Posted by: Blow it up! | June 12, 2008 9:43 PM | Report abuse

O's Exec


That's Nats questions, sans apostrophe.

Posted by: leetee1955 | June 12, 2008 9:53 PM | Report abuse

where's flynnie when you most need his unbridled optimism?

Posted by: natsscribe | June 12, 2008 9:58 PM | Report abuse

I don't truly feel this way, but there's a little part of me that's so mad at this team that I'm rooting for them to lose in such spectacular fashion that the Lerners have no choice but to clean house. And at least a historically bad team would be memorable. We could all taunt the front-runners who show up later on about how we were here when the team bottomed out in 08.

Posted by: Steven on Capitol Hill | June 12, 2008 10:05 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of unbridled optimism
FLopez is currently hitting .240/.314/.313
his career average is .257/.327/.390

So he is slowly (but surely) regressing to the mean.

Maybe others will too?

Posted by: SF Fan | June 12, 2008 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I think that we are through the worst of it. Our preseason expectationa are gone and we all now have a tangible objective to rally around - a 99 loss season or better.

We can really look at this a two seasons from here on out; the next six weeks until July 31 in which to deal those who can and should be dealt and August 1 forward to preview what we have going forward next year (and identify what we'll need in the off season). Granted I'm throwing in the towel and if by some miracle we are playing meaningful games in September I will suffer your recollected barbs gladly.

But I think that we need to start trying to move some of the pieces now - and not wait until it gets close to deadline. Pitchers like Colome, Rivera, Sanches,and Redding (perhaps) some teams might be willing to take a look at in late June, knowing that they still have time for another move if necessary. But as it now stands, nobody is going to be beating down the door for these guys on July 31. Manning maybe an exception and a few more good innings from him could reap some dividends in the next few weeks.

As for position players: Guzman, Young, and Dukes will probably all attract serious interest and should go if the price is close to right. I hope we keep Belliard (and think we will). Nieves too, although I hate to see him go. Boone and Harris could draw some circumstantial attention. And Lopez, of course, to anyone who will take him (but that offer has been on the table for awhile now.)

So poor yourselves a glass a wine, cheer up, and as SOCH points out, start practicing your stories about how miserable it was back in the old days of 08 for all the Johnny come latelys we will no doubt one day see.

Posted by: lowcountry | June 12, 2008 10:25 PM | Report abuse

"But I think that we need to start trying to move some of the pieces now - and not wait until it gets close to deadline."

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This team is not firesale bad. No one's bench plays well as starters, though better teams can fake it longer. We wait for deadline to move pieces because teams pay more at deadline than they do before. They know better how close they are to making it.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | June 12, 2008 11:41 PM | Report abuse

"Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way."
Leo Tolstoy, Anna Karenina, Chapter 1, first line

If you heard that the Nats had scored 13 runs in the last 3 games, you'd think that was the sound of the long promised offensive Monsoon that was forecast any day, soon, maybe last weekend by our GM and Boswell. The starting pitching wasn't the problem. They'd hold the opposition to 4 runs per game. But - a unique series of miseries ensues. Our professional, teach and preach manager starts screaming at players in public, turning a nice 9th inning win into ashes and baseball Jerry Springer on ESPN. Then the bullpen falls apart. Then a screamed-at starter falls apart. A 6th inning comeback falls just short, and, to make it shorter, Rauch is weakening. We are about to lose Wil Nieves. No, Manny has lost me. It's no fun to watch an abused family.

Posted by: flynnie | June 13, 2008 4:07 AM | Report abuse

The list of such incidents is far too long -- such as Guillen's merciless chewing out of rookie Sean Tracey for failing to hit a Rangers batter with a retaliatory pitch. But Guillen's core problem is that, like Martin, he simply can't back down. Once he's cornered, confronted with a mistake, he can't come up with a sincere unmitigated apology.

Thomas Boswell

Posted by: flynnie | June 13, 2008 4:42 AM | Report abuse

"smasm up" or "spasm up"?

:)
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"spas 'em up" or "smasm up"?

Posted by: | June 12, 2008 8:26 PM

Posted by: NatsNut | June 13, 2008 6:31 AM | Report abuse

"spas 'em up" = soaking said body parts in the jacuzzi?

Posted by: proofreading gremlins | June 13, 2008 6:40 AM | Report abuse

O's Exec said:
What do you think Boz will take more of, O's questions or Nat's questions?


Hey O's Exec, how about just leaving? Get out of here. You obviously don't know what you are talking about and are just some silly bitter fool with your own personal agenda.

Boz grew up here as a Senators fan. He, like many in his generation who had their childhood baseball team ripped away from them but still loved the game, eventually found solace in watching it up the road in Baltimore. It helped that back in those days the O's were the class of baseball and eventually had Cal. You wanna tell me Cal wasn't worth watching for two decades?

Boz writes about 12-15 columns on the Nats for every one he writes about the O's. Even the ones he's written about the O's were timed when the O's were a bit of a national story for playing surprisingly well early on.

Get over yourself. It's Baltimore that is supposed to have the innate inferiority complex to DC. So stop your whining, you're embarrassing all of us.

Posted by: Anonymous | June 13, 2008 7:39 AM | Report abuse

1500-AM had a bunch of rant sessions this morning about how bad the Nats are -- and how the Lerners won't spend money. Some guy who works for the Nats called in and said Milledge will be a free agent next year. Is that true?

Posted by: ohplease | June 13, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Answering a few things, Milledge doesn't have the service time to be a free agent. Of course, the Nats could just cut him loose. Which won't happen and I'm surprised that 1500 would take a call from someone and let them claim to be from the Nats.

Second, which "parts" would we be able to move at or before the deadline. Everyone is on the DL.

My own comment on putting Odalis on the DL. Of course, no one knows how injured someone is when soreness sets in. But at this point, the Nats have played short a man for each night from June 3rd that Odalis hasn't been available. It's not the first time that's happened this season. It's not the biggest problem, but it hasn't helped.

Posted by: Sec 114 Row E | June 13, 2008 8:20 AM | Report abuse

Good morning. New post up.

Posted by: natsfan1a | June 13, 2008 8:40 AM | Report abuse

I don't truly feel this way, but there's a little part of me that's so mad at this team that I'm rooting for them to lose in such spectacular fashion that the Lerners have no choice but to clean house. And at least a historically bad team would be memorable. We could all taunt the front-runners who show up later on about how we were here when the team bottomed out in 08.

Posted by: Steven on Capitol Hill | June 12, 2008 10:05 PM

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Sounds like what we do on the Far Left in rooting for us to lose in Iraq.

Posted by: Howard Dean | June 13, 2008 9:12 AM | Report abuse

So with LoDuca coming back, we are once again faced with the question that has come up a couple of times this year - what do you do with 3 big league catchers? Will Nieves seems like such a good athlete, especially for a catcher - he runs well and seems to have a good defensive makeup. Any chance of trying him at 3rd or OF? If you'll try FLop in LF, why not Nieves? Send Langerhans back down, who I am now 100% convinced (after last year and this year) is NOT a big league outfielder. Nieves could be a great super sub. Thoughts?

Posted by: AJ | June 13, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

and just in time

Posted by: New Post | June 13, 2008 10:14 AM | Report abuse

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