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Young, Flores likely done for '08

The Nats learned yesterday that Jesus Flores and Dmitri Young probably won't play again this season. Both underwent MRIs at Nats Park for their various sprains and strains. In Flores's case, the decision to halt all comeback plans makes perfect sense: The catcher has been frustrated in the last week with how slowly his ankle injury is progressing; though he's able to jog around, squatting (as a catcher must) still causes pain. Perhaps he could make it back for a few games at the end of the season, but what's the point of that? He'd only risk further injury. As Manny Acta said, the Nationals have seen all they need to from Flores this year to know he's their future backstop. That is, Acta quipped, unless "Johnny Bench in his mid-20s" comes walking into the clubhouse.

Young's injury is more perplexing. First he'd been getting treatment for a quad injury; now, the team is calling it a hip injury. No matter how the ailment evolves, though, its net result is the same: Young is too hobbled to play. He's nowhere near the shape he needs to be in to play baseball anytime soon. His season is gone, and it becomes all the more difficult for Washington to expect much of Young for 2009.

Read Carig's notebook (which has the latest injury details) here.

His gamer, which includes some good stuff on John Lannan's effectiveness, is here.

His seven innings last night, though counter-productive to the Strasburg Fund, had to be among the most impressive he's pitched all season. Lannan is a young pitcher pushing through a meaningless September. Last time out (also against the Mets) he got shelled: three innings, eight hits, five runs. Such an outing had the potential to trigger a little end-of-the-year slide. But Lannan stopped the slide before it went anywhere. He got his ERA back under 4.00, picked up his ninth victory, and held the Mets to one hit through seven. With a game like that, a pitcher proves something.

By Chico Harlan  |  September 16, 2008; 7:41 AM ET
 
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Yes, but the best part is watching them trying to find a bar.

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Just got home from the Park. It was great to see Mets fans leaving the lower deck in droves in the seventh and eighth innings. Lannan threw free and easy and was never in trouble. It was probably the best home game he's pitched all season. God, I would love to sweep New York and their overly smug fans. One leatherlung kept chanting "Jose, Jose, Jose" each time Reyes battled and another called Nats Park "Shea South." Tickled me to no end that by the eighth inning, most Mets fans were heading to our version of the No. 7 train at the Navy Yard station.

Posted by: leetee1955 | September 15, 2008 11:39 PM

Posted by: ce | September 16, 2008 7:55 AM | Report abuse

Duuuuh. I just got it.

ELWOOD.
As in, he's a pooka.
No one's ever actually seen him. He talks. He has magical powers. He's mischievous. He's over 6' tall, most of the time. He drinks like a fish.

Very belated props to whomever (1a?) came up with that name.

"Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, 'In this world, Elwood, you must be' - she always called me Elwood - 'In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant.' Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me."

Posted by: ce | September 16, 2008 8:03 AM | Report abuse

WHOever

Posted by: whatever | September 16, 2008 8:04 AM | Report abuse

The game last night was great!
The Nationals again told us al that underdogs can win.
I'd like to draw peoples attention the that one Mets fan who kept screeming "LETS GO M**." I got so feed up that I screemed "ionals" because mets sounds so much like nats.

Posted by: sec 112 seat 4 | September 16, 2008 8:05 AM | Report abuse

whomever is a made up word to confuse students.

Posted by: creed | September 16, 2008 8:31 AM | Report abuse

The link below is to a terrific article about the Dominican scouting payment and player development issue. It's focus is on a terminated scout for Evil Empire #4, so pass on it if you can't stand reading anything that mentions the Red Sox. The scout, Pablo Lantigua, is presented in a pretty sympathetic light. Jesus Alou, the head of the Sox Dominican operation, is quoted too. The buscone practice is discussed, with some balance. All in all, a great read. It's written by one of my favorite writers at the Globe, Bob Hohler.

http://tinyurl.com/676o6w

Posted by: PTBNL | September 16, 2008 8:36 AM | Report abuse

I think that Elwood came into being last spring (April?), ce. I first spotted a potential rally critter in my yard around that time, but I don't recall who named him. If I recall correctly, the nom de guerre evolved from a series of Blues Brothers references relating to the marsupial's mission, but good call on the Harvey reference.

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 8:45 AM | Report abuse

I was in a large sports bar, watching both the Nats and other baseball games while most there were focused on MNF. When a Nat hits a home run, often this year I've been the only one in the bar who make any sort of noise. Last night, when Dukes hit his shot, there must have been 15 or so out the 150 standing and sitting who clapped, yelled, or said "Dukes!" I think that's progress.

Posted by: PTBNL | September 16, 2008 8:51 AM | Report abuse

How 'bout Svrluga's insightful Skins article in today's paper? This third beat writer (as well as Carpenter and Steinberg) is proving a great success, Emilio Garcia-Ruiz made a great call on this one.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 16, 2008 8:56 AM | Report abuse

If there was ever a time to re-de-lurk myself this would be it. Elwood evolved over about a week. I believe his first incarnation came from a squirrel sighting on the field form which he was initially dubbed "the rally squirrel". We then found out that said rodent was a member of the St Louis organization and he was summarily dismissed. The Rally Possum came in direct reference to (1a)'s visitor, but we had 2nd thoughts about him when he passed on. Before rescinding into the darkness of "lurker" status, I believe I threw out a reference or two to The Blues Brothers including "plain white toast and four whole chickens" and the more obvious "we're on a mission from god". Elwood took on a life of his own from there, including the habitual tardiness and levels of intoxication.

Posted by: MKevin | September 16, 2008 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Sounds like progress to me, PTBNL.

I haven't been reading football stuff, anon, so I can't weigh in on that (sorry, Barry, but for me baseball ain't over 'til it's over).

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 9:02 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the background, mkevin - ah, memories... Also, you should delurk more often!

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 9:04 AM | Report abuse

Where is Tatiana?

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | September 16, 2008 9:06 AM | Report abuse

Regarding the injury news, has anyone heard anything lately about Belliard? If I remember right he was likely out for the rest of the season.
Got a laugh out of the pinata analogy in today's gamer.

Posted by: Section 109 | September 16, 2008 9:08 AM | Report abuse

The Nationals need 6 more wins!

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | September 16, 2008 9:30 AM | Report abuse

Interesting factoid two games into the Redskins season.

Number of photos of Chris Cooley's junk that have appeared on the Internet: One.

Number of Redskins stories penned by #3 beat writer Barry Svrluga: One.

Who would have expected a tie here? Chico, you need to get yourself transferred to that cushy Redskins beat.

Posted by: although beware, you might see chris cooley's junk. | September 16, 2008 9:48 AM | Report abuse

We all loved Jon Rauch, so none of us wish him bad luck. However, I did not expect to see this (from MLBTR):

"Nick Piecoro of the Arizona Republic wrote Saturday about the tough decisions the D'Backs face on relievers Brandon Lyon and Jon Rauch.

... Rauch's contract requires the D'Backs decide on his 2010 option five days after this year's World Series. The option is for $2.9MM; an easy call if you ignore Rauch's last 20 innings or so."

If they decide not to ignore those 20 innings, I hope the Nats would punce to get him back.

Posted by: Positively Half St | September 16, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Good game by Lannan last night; after Dukes's HR in the 7th the crowd was almost eerily quiet the rest of the way. Almost like we didn't know what to do with such a commanding lead that late in the game. Pedro looked shaky all night and was getting visibly agitated by some of our hitters' stalling. Pedro looks finished; he had no zip on his fastball, couldn't locate his pitches. 4walks and 8hits in 6 innings against one of the weaker lineups in baseball. Not good.

Belliard's groin strain will indeed keep him out for the rest of the year. But he's signed through 2009 and should serve as a useful backup/spot starter at middle infield on next year's team (that is of course if he doesn't beat out the likes of AGonzalez or Bonifacio in spring training 09.

Posted by: Sec131 | September 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

I had no idea that the Nats had their own MRI. Now all they need is a radiologist who can read the images properly.

Posted by: 419E | September 16, 2008 9:57 AM | Report abuse

+.5St., it's only a tough decision because he's had essentially terrible control issues since he arrived in Arizona. He was brought in to be the 8th-inning guy for them, primary set-up for Brandon Lyon.

Brandon Lyon proved himself to be too inconsistent to retain his position, so the closer job in ARI was essentially Big Jon's for the taking. Unfortunately for the Wookiee, he's allowed something like 16 runs in his 23 innings there (compared to 18 runs in 48 innings here).

This meant that Chad Qualls passed him by, has what seems to be a lock on the ARI closer's job heading into 2009.

Again, this is just for the 2010 option, however, and so Jon will have another year to play with the D'backs (barring a trade) regardless of whether the team picks the option up or not.

Posted by: faNATic | September 16, 2008 10:01 AM | Report abuse

To answer Section 109, there was a small article in the Washington Times a couple of days ago that said Belliard will not be back this season because of his groin injury. He is my favorite Nat and I sure hope to see him next year if only in a back-up/pinch hitter role. His bat was important this year as was his ability to play all infield positions except catcher. His two-run walk off homer against the Orioles on June 30 has to be the Play of the Year and is in the running for the Highlight of the Nats time in DC. Thanks, Ronnie.

Posted by: ladynatsfan | September 16, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

1a, the stuff here about Barry is apparently a running joke. As someone noted above, Barry has had 1 Skins byline to date. That is fewer than not only the two mainstay beat writers obviously (the Jasons) but also Les Carpenter and Dan Steinberg (actual print articles), both of whom also seem to be assigned to cover the Skins on game day--in addition to the 2 columnists who also are assigned to Skins games.

Posted by: Coverage is lacking | September 16, 2008 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Thanks 131 and ladynatsfan. I really like Ronnie too.

Posted by: Section 109 | September 16, 2008 10:21 AM | Report abuse

Ah, thanks for the background, CiL.

Ladynf, I'm with you on Belli's walk-off. That is surely one of my top five in-person Nats games of all time (my own impromptu HR call, which I cannot post here, was rather more colorful than Jagelar's, which I heard later via replay).

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Perhaps Barry was working on an in-depth expose on Chris Cooley's junk, only to get pre-empted by Cooley revealing it in his own blog.

Posted by: i'm talking about the playbook. what are you guys, twelve? | September 16, 2008 10:23 AM | Report abuse

Re. today's notebook item on 107.7 FM dropping Nats broadcasts, if you are barely able to pick up the AM signal (as is the case for me), you may wish to submit feedback on the decision via the link below:

http://www.3wtradio.com/index.php?nid=23&sid=1238465&sent=true

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Another contact link, for WTOP:

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=56&sid=597520

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

Why is WTOP back on 107.7?

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | September 16, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

My favorite sentence of the gamer:

"With his 20th quality start of the season, Lannan joined Esteban Loaiza and Liván Hernández as the only three Nationals pitchers to reach that number."

Posted by: Juan-John | September 16, 2008 10:48 AM | Report abuse

... and if WTOP went back to 107.7 does this mean the Nats broadcast will be moving to 103.5? That at least is preferable to 1500 AM. Eeesh. The brass needs to do something about the only broadcast they're in control of. AM only in this market is simply unacceptable.

Posted by: MKevin | September 16, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Did anyone see Dukes last night? Wow! All I can say is wow! He is so explosive, on the field and in the batters box. I think he is the most exciting player to watch right now. When he comes to the plate, anything can happen. Fantastic! I would also like to see him and a healthy Kearns have a throwing contest from deep in right field. Every throw he makes is a rope.

Posted by: IBC | September 16, 2008 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Nope, AM only, which I can barely pick up. It's all about the ratings, evidently. See below from dcrtv.com:

More: Bonneville's Changes On 1500, 1050, 820, 107.7 - 9/11 - DCRTV already told you all of this. Now, Radio And Records gives us its version: Monday, 9/15, will bring the start of several previously announced programming changes at Bonneville's Washington stations. Here's the latest timetable: Starting on Monday, WFED, Federal News Radio, will broadcast full-time on both 1500 AM and 820 AM. Meanwhile, a loop of promotional announcements will begin running on WFED's previous signal, 1050 AM, to help listeners make the move to the new signals. After the loop runs for two weeks, 1050 will begin simulcasting news WTOP full-time, except for a few sports conflicts. Wednesday, 9/17, will be the last Washington Nationals broadcast on the 107.7 FM frequency. Going forward the team will be heard on WFED. Finally, starting on Thursday, 9/18, WTOP will be a 100 percent simulcast on 103.5 FM, 103.9 FM, and 107.7 FM so that the station can receive full Arbitron credit.....

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

They couldn't even wait until the season ended...

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 10:58 AM | Report abuse

Nonsense. They need twelve!

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The Nationals need 6 more wins!

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 16, 2008 11:02 AM | Report abuse

... just awful... can you say WJFK? Who the heck listens to Jim Rome anyway?

Posted by: MKevin | September 16, 2008 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Also, I liked the angle Carig took on the gamer. Interesting that Lannan decided to experiment with a change up against lefties.

That's nine wins for Lannan, who gets a shot at number ten against San Diego this weekend. Let's hope he can bring the change (up) we can believe in to Washington.

Also, hats off to Montz for his first MLB hit and RBI.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 16, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

I can't get 107.7 reliably enough to listen to it, so I won't miss it that much. But...even still...no FM?

::sigh::

And yes to all above: Lannan/Dukes/Bellie/Barry are all good things.

A big NO to Cooley's junk, thank you very much.

Posted by: Section 138 | September 16, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

Actually, whatever, whoever you are, "whomever" is used correctly in this sentence, as it indicates the unknown individual to whom props are given, and thus is in the objective case.

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Very belated props to whomever (1a?) came up with that name.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 16, 2008 11:14 AM | Report abuse

"... just awful... can you say WJFK? Who the heck listens to Jim Rome anyway?"

Any change to WJFK would have to wait until after this season. WJFK is a CBS Radio station, whereas 1500 AM and 107.7 FM are Bonneville stations. Apparently the Nationals' radio contract is with Bonneville and does not specify what specific stations (AM and/or FM) the games must be carried on, hence the moving around that Bonneville is now doing with the broadcasts. Does anyone know if the Nats' contract with Bonneville extends beyond this season?

Posted by: 506's snark has a groin pull | September 16, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Are the Nats moving in the right direction? Going into the final 12 games of the season, which of the following players are you excited/would like to see come back in a Nats uniform next season?

C -- Flores, Montz, Nieves
1B -- Boone, Casto, Johnson, Young
2B -- Belliard, Bonifacio, Hernandez, Orr
SS -- Gonzalez, Guzman
3B -- Zimmerman
LF -- Bernadina, Harris, Langerhans, Pena
CF -- Milledge
RF -- Dukes, Kearns
SP -- Balester, Bergmann, Hill, Lannan, Martis, Perez, Redding
RP -- Colome, Cordero, Estrada, Hanrahan, Hinckley, Manning, Mock, Rivera, Shell, Speigner

Compare to the players the Nats had at this time last year:

C -- Flores, Schneider
1B -- Batista, Fick, Young
2B -- Belliard, Jimenez
SS -- Guzman, Lopez
3B -- Zimmerman
LF -- Langerhans, Pena
CF -- Church, Logan, Maxwell
RF -- Kearns
SP -- Bergmann, Chico, Hanrahan, Hill, Redding
RP -- Albaladejo, Abreu, Ayala, Bacsik, Colome, Cordero, Munoz, Rauch, Rivera, Schroder

Good golly did last year's roster stink. How the heck did they win 73 games?

Even though they won more games last year, I think there is infinitely more talent this year that I hope will be back next year ... and maybe Santa KastenLerner will bring us a top FA or two this holiday season!

Posted by: e | September 16, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

Every hit I'm getting indicates the Nats are under contract with Bonneville through 2009. This is pathetic.

Posted by: MKevin | September 16, 2008 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Don't the Nats have a contract with the radio affiliates?

Posted by: Sec 114, Row E | September 16, 2008 11:28 AM | Report abuse

I'm coming up with the same info as mkevin - that the Nats contract with Bonneville runs through 2009.

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 11:42 AM | Report abuse

"Don't the Nats have a contract with the radio affiliates?"

The radio affiliate would be Bonneville, owner of multiple stations in the area. In this age of multi-station radio conglomerates, individual stations don't cut programming deals on their own. It's all done by the corporate suits. The corporate suits are also known to flip programming from one station they own to another one willy-nilly. An example would be a few years ago when CBS flipped Alt-Rock 99.1 WHFS to all-Spanish El Zol, and moved the Junkies from 99.1 over to another CBS station, 106.7 WJFK.

Posted by: 506's snark has a groin pull | September 16, 2008 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Man, I was listening when HFS switched formats. I thought it was a joke at first.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | September 16, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Last year was a 68 win team on talent that won 73 games based on finding gold in cast offs like Young and Belli and excellent bullpen work. This year's projected 25 man probably was better than 68 wins, but injuries (some predictable, some not), natsluck on dredging for cast off gold, reversion for the bullpen, and a decision to try to market the veteran dregs for trade rather than play to win will result in 60 - 64 wins.

As for the line-up, I'd actually like to see a Harris / Belliard platoon at 2d, and some sort of survival of the fittest among Johnson, Kearns, and Pena for one OF / 1B slot. The other should be a new body. Part of me would like to see Guz moved and Gonzalez or Hernandez at short (next to my 2d base platoon), but I don't think that is in the cards. Guz has played well and took short money to resign, and I don't think it would send a good message to trade him before opening day.

Pitching - I'd like to see Redding back, Lannan and Balester in the rotation, one of Zimmermann and Martis, leaving us short an arm. Bullpen - mix and match, but I would not mind Shell, Hinckley, Rivera in a more limited role, Mock, Bergmann as a long man if not in the rotation as the middle guys. For closer, I might take a flyer on an old guy, like a Foulke, at least to push Hanrahan in the spring.

Posted by: PTBNL | September 16, 2008 12:05 PM | Report abuse

I guess the only thing to be done next year is for the Nats to negotiate with Bonneville to get onto one of their other FM stations in the area that's not part of the Fednews network (if those exist).

Posted by: MKevin | September 16, 2008 12:18 PM | Report abuse

I guess even that's out. Bonneville's DC affiliates (before the restructure):

# WFED 1050 AM
# WTOP 103.5 FM & 103.9 FM
# WWWT 107.7 FM & 1500 AM

All 3 FM stations are carrying WTOP full time. 3WT is going away. FedNews and the Nats on 1500AM.

Something's gotta change in 2010.

Posted by: MKevin | September 16, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Radio situation can now be classified as hopeless. When Carpenter was bloviating and bumbling thru on MASN, it was always the alternative to flip on the old radio to hear Charlie and Dave. Thanks WTOP, just what we need "Traffic and Weather" together from the glass enclosed "Nerve Center" not only once but on 2 other freq's. If they thought radio ratings where zero on the FM dial, wait till they count them on the AM side, 1500 and 820 ain't exactly 50K blow-torches.

Whatever does happen I would beg Mrrs Lerner-Kast to stay away (far away) from anything associated w/Redskins Radio, that would be the ultimate kiss of death. Imagine when the Nats are in a pennent race and the coverage that would be needed would just disappear around the end of July. No thanks! How about WJFK? Do it Stan.

Posted by: Tippy Canoe | September 16, 2008 12:45 PM | Report abuse

I'm thinking might be worthwhile to see if we could maybe move Belli and Guz and pick up a legit LF or 1B with a big bat. We have decent MI prospects with plus gloves and plus defense and IMO a big corner OF or IF bat would offset the loss from Belliguz. Also, might be worth it to shop Harris around. I'd miss any/all of those guys as they've been among the better producers on the team this year (which isn't saying much, really).

But to be competitive, we need a decent #1 starter while our young SPs develop, we need reliable bats in LF and 1B, and I'd sure like to see a decent backup for Flores. I think the jury is still out on Montz/Nieves.

Oh, and while I'm hallucinating, let's get rid of Lennie Harris and Tolman, and have the Lerners open their wallets so we can actually sign Strasburg. Am I only one on this list who is losing sleep over the possibility of the FO screwing the pooch on signing a Boras client due to Lerner's cheapness/Bowden's ineptitude?

Re: coaching, I'd say give Acta one more year, but that's it. I'm thinking his demeanor is more suited to player development and is what I'd expect on a Minor League team, not an MLB team.

Posted by: Desert Nat | September 16, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

I used to drive from Boston to NYC every weekend (don't ask, it was for a woman) and I'd pick up 1500 around the time I hit Connecticut, did they change the output? Cuz if I can get it in Conn, it should be easier to get it around the area, right?

Posted by: SF Fan | September 16, 2008 12:53 PM | Report abuse

"Am I only one on this list who is losing sleep over the possibility of the FO screwing the pooch on signing a Boras client due to Lerner's cheapness/Bowden's ineptitude?"

Probably not, but I don't see that happening. If the Nats get the number 1 pick, they have to draft and sign Strasburg. Anything else would be a publicity nightmare which will make this last little draft fiasco look like a tea party.

Strasburg/Boras will have the Nats over a barrel since everyone knows that they HAVE to sign Strasburg; but they're just going to have to suck on it, like it, smile, and write a monster check, probably in excess of what he'd get from any other team.

Posted by: joebleux | September 16, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

SF fan, while the signal is strong north to south, it is not strong west of DC. Not sure why that is so.

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

From the archives:

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2007/08/bonneville_nats_in_negotiation.html

Guess that Bonneville was lying about 107.7.

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Per this item a three-year deal was announced in January of 2006, in which case it would have been for the 2006, 2007, and 2008 seasons, right?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/19/AR2006011903073_pf.html

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Except that the Svrluga journal item referred to a multi-year deal pending in 2007. D'oh! Never mind.

Posted by: natsfan1a/Ms. Litella | September 16, 2008 1:23 PM | Report abuse

A NOTE TO E: I think we need a first baseman,i don't see Young or Johnson, as an option in 09 although i think Nick is closer to being healthy(cross your fingers) than Dmitri,I'm not sure i have a lot of faith in Bergman making the rotation or Hill for that matter although Hill's issues are more health related than performance related.The infield and out field have a few set positions, Guzman, Zimm, Hernandez, and the of/ Milledge,Dukes, and ? Is everyone on this blog still in favor of changing the staff, Acta and his crew? I would like to hear input as the season winds down ,especially with Ned Yost now being available.

Posted by: dargregmag@aol.com | September 16, 2008 1:36 PM | Report abuse

MASN to Launch HD Channel In 2009
The channel carries the Orioles and Nats.
By Swanni

Washington, D.C. (September 16, 2008) -- The Mid-Atlantic Sports Network (MASN) will launch a 24-hour High-Definition channel in March 2009, the company announced today.

That doesn't mean that every game carried by MASN will be in high-def, however. The regional sports channel broadcasts nearly every regular season game for the Baltimore Orioles and Washington Nationals baseball teams on two different channels, MASN and MASN 1.

MASN said as many as 200 Oriole and Nats games will be in high-def during the 2009 season. However, the regional sports channel added that at least one Oriole or Nats game will be HD every night during the season.

Until this year, MASN was one of only two regional sports channels that carry Major League Baseball teams not to offer their games in high-def. (The Kansas City Royals were also not in high-def on a Missouri regional network.) However, this season, MASN broadcasts 40 Orioles and 40 Nats games in high-def.

And by the way, does anyone really think the Nats would sign Strasberg? Keep dreaming...

Posted by: swanni | September 16, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the current radio contract was inked in 2007 (so some of us would seem to be SOL as far as hearing Charlie and Dave after today):

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/17/AR2007101702171_pf.html

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 1:40 PM | Report abuse

"Is everyone on this blog still in favor of changing the staff, Acta and his crew?"

Was anyone on this blog except for you ever in favor of this? I can imagine the conversation now:

"Hey guys, we hired you because you were willing to take the chance to work on a rebuilding team with virtually no known assets and try to build it into a contender five years down the road. Unfortunately, after two years you've yet to win a world series, so we're going to go in an entirely different direction.

"Actually, we're going to hire another manager with experience turning a perennial loser into a winner. We're sure he can turn this ship around in even less time than he did Milwaukee with an even lower starting position. We're sure he'll jump at the chance."

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | September 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Wait, are you talking about the possibility of Kearns or Pena at first?

If you get the Pena of late 2007, that might be interesting. It certainly limits the damage he can do defensively.

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As for the line-up, I'd actually like to see a Harris / Belliard platoon at 2d, and some sort of survival of the fittest among Johnson, Kearns, and Pena for one OF / 1B slot.

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 16, 2008 1:45 PM | Report abuse

No radio for fans who live in the DC area? It's like the team never left Montreal.

Posted by: Coverage is lacking | September 16, 2008 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Just a reminder, Gameday Audio is just $14.99 a year, and there are no blackout restrictions.

It won't work in your car, but apparently neither does 1500 AM for most of you.

Actually, back in College Park, I couldn't pick up the FM version, and relied solely on 1500 AM. But then, how many of you live in College Park?

Posted by: John in Mpls | September 16, 2008 1:51 PM | Report abuse


"One leatherlung kept chanting "Jose, Jose, Jose" each time Reyes battled".

Posted by: leetee1955 | September 15, 2008 11:39 PM

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Next time, try singing "He's Out, He's Out, He's Out" to the same melody after Reyes makes a putout. Works great.

Posted by: Sec 222 Upper Half | September 16, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

"It won't work in your car, but apparently neither does 1500 AM for most of you.

Actually, back in College Park, I couldn't pick up the FM version, and relied solely on 1500 AM. But then, how many of you live in College Park?"

I don't. I live in Fairfax County, just outside the Beltway, and 1500 AM works for me both in my house and in my car for the places I drive. It also works for me inside the ballpark when I bring my radio to the games. 107.7 FM doesn't work for me at my house, because from there I can see the tower that carries 106.7 and that Smooth Jazz station that's just below it on the dial. Both of those signals totally overwhelm 107.7 for me at home, which is too bad because the delay on FM seems to be pretty close to the delay on MASN. The AM signal, though, is way ahead of MASN, which means I can't turn down the TV sound and listen to Charlie and Dave while I watch.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 16, 2008 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Oh my, a fatal error. Let's try this again...

Thanks, John, I hadn't realized that there were no blackout restrictions for the Gameday Audio. I'm in northern Virginia and can pick up 107.7 but not 1500 at home.

That's good re. the Jose song, 222. I've heard people sing the Jose song just after Reyes made an out, but hadn't heard the "he's out" version.

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 2:23 PM | Report abuse

They used to sing the Jose song here for a guy named Guillen. I have his bobblehead on my shelf.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 16, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

To continue a thread started before, I'd like to talk about who we really think will be pitching for our club next year ...

GIVEN no FA pickups, I can see the following pitching staffs next year:

Starters:
Nats: Balester, Lannan, Redding, JZimmerman, Martis
AAA SP: Clippard, O'Conner, Bergmann, Brownlie, MEstrada
other Minors SP: Detwiler (A or AA)
cut/released SP from 2008 40-man: OPerez, Chico (injured), Hill (injured)

For some reason I can see the Nats losing patience w/ Hill just as they did with Patterson after his latest surgery. Chico won't be ready til like Aug09, so we probably dump both of the 40-man and sign to minor league deals. I'd love to see JZimmerman and Martis continue to show enough promise to start in the MLB but in all likelihood one or both will be in AAA (replacing O'Conner or Bergmann) and we'll sign another 850k/year veteran free agent and hope to catch lightning in a bottle like the Cards did w/ Kyle Lohse.

The Nats need to figure out a plan with Detwiler and soon. He's wasting space on the 40-man and looks like he's several years away from the majors after struggling so badly in A ball this year. Bad bad decision to call him up to let him throw one-inning in 2007.

Relievers:
Nats RP: Shell, Hinckley (loogy), Colome, Mock, Rivera (setup), Hanrahan (closer)
AAA RP: Wagner, Manning, Sanches, Schroeder, Speigner
cut/released RPs from 2008 40-man: Cordero (injured)

We already know Cordero's not coming back; we'll DFA him and attempt to sign him to a minor league deal like what we'll do with Hill and Chico, but Cordero's ego has been bruised too badly to come back. Someone else will give him a 40-man spot with a bit more money and he'll probably be a setup guy for a team like Boston going forward.

Our bullpen needs to show some improvement; i can see us DFAing Colome after his struggles this year, but Wagner would have to step up. Shell has shown a lot of promise, and a lot of the guys we've auditioned in the pen (Sanches, Manning, Schroeder, speigner) have shown that they don't belong.

Posted by: Sec131 | September 16, 2008 2:42 PM | Report abuse

Young is nowhere neat the shape he needs to be in to play?? You can read this how you like, but Young has proven that he does not need to be in any kind of shape to play.

Posted by: dh | September 16, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

up in section 320 (the seats, not the blog) at RFK, we used to sing it for Guillen, and Vidro, too. anybody we could, really.

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They used to sing the Jose song here for a guy named Guillen. I have his bobblehead on my shelf.

Posted by: Anonymous | September 16, 2008 2:39 PM

Posted by: Who | September 16, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Whenever 1b and I tried to get the Jose song going for Guillen, the people around us mostly just sat there (kinda like when we tried to get a "Let's Go Nats" chant going - oh wait, that part hasn't changed ;-))...

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Dr. or Horton hears a?

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Maybe, but the Braves drafted Chipper Jones out of high school, instead of Todd Van Poppell, in 1990, because Van Poppell said he wouldn't sign with Atlanta. (Oh, and the major league contract he got from Oakland didn't do anybody any favors, either.)

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"Am I only one on this list who is losing sleep over the possibility of the FO screwing the pooch on signing a Boras client due to Lerner's cheapness/Bowden's ineptitude?"

Probably not, but I don't see that happening. If the Nats get the number 1 pick, they have to draft and sign Strasburg. Anything else would be a publicity nightmare which will make this last little draft fiasco look like a tea party.

Strasburg/Boras will have the Nats over a barrel since everyone knows that they HAVE to sign Strasburg; but they're just going to have to suck on it, like it, smile, and write a monster check, probably in excess of what he'd get from any other team.

Posted by: joebleux | September 16, 2008 1:05 PM

Posted by: CE | September 16, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

On first.

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Posted by: You ought to be ashamed of yourself. | September 16, 2008 2:54 PM | Report abuse

JiM - When I propose the survival of the fittest for one of the OF or 1B slots, I was thinking that if Nick is healthy and looks better than Kearns and WMP, we play Nick at 1st and our LH hitting 1B/OF outfield to be named later in left. Alternatively, if Nick is lame (and the Pope remains Catholic and the flies come out in the land of 10,000 lakes), then the mysterious unidentified 1b/OF is our 1B, and we survive with a post-surgery comeback of the year in WMP or the howitzer-armed, power hitting, work the count Kearns in either right or left.

WMP has been tried at 1st by EE#4 and failed. Not to say don't try, try again.

Posted by: PTBNL | September 16, 2008 2:55 PM | Report abuse

I live and work in Arlington, and have been listening to 1500 (with no problems) both in the car and at home ever since I became a fan of the team in 2005. This was particularly in those days when Comcast was feuding with MASN and the only way to get the games was via radio.

Posted by: Juan-John | September 16, 2008 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"1500 and 820 ain't exactly 50K blow-torches."

820 isn't but 1500 is a clear channel (in the classic sense, rather than the evil corporate radio sense) and is 50000 watts 24/7.

Here's a page with the stats from radio-locator.com (with links to coverage maps): http://tinyurl.com/6omvjb

Oh and here is the 820 info page (but you'll never hear it here in the DC area, as you can see): http://tinyurl.com/5ctm67

Posted by: OldGuy | September 16, 2008 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and I wonder if I'm the only one who likes the big delay between the radio and the TV? Means I never miss a pitch if I'm doing something else at the time as I just have to look up 2 seconds after I hear the result (or maybe I'm just into that weird time-warp thing).

Posted by: OldGuy | September 16, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

131 - Thanks for the run through on pitching. Heres what I see for position players, w/o FAs - assuming we have 12 pitcher on the roster (5sp, 7rp) we have 13 roster slots available

OF (4)
Dukes (LF)
Milledge (CF)
Kearns (RF)
Pena

CA (2)
Flores
Nieves

IF (7)
Zimmerman (3B)
Guzman (SS)
Bonifacio (2B)
Johnson (1B)
Harris
Young
Gonzalez or Hernandez

You can count Harris toward OF or IF as you like, if/when DY or NJ go on the DL you might see Guzman move to 1B, with over $10 mil devoted to players who can only play 1B its unlikely the team can or will add another player who can only play that position.

I think it's interesting that $27 million of the teams payroll is tied up on 4 players (Guzman, Johnson, Young & Kearns) who have been injured and/or underperforming in past years while the "Core" of the team going forward (Zimmerman, Bonifacio, Flores, Dukes & Milledge) account for less than 1/5th of that (depending on what happens with Zim's contract or arbitration this off season).

Posted by: estuartj | September 16, 2008 3:08 PM | Report abuse

I still like both Kearns and Guzman. I don't see how you can call Guzman underperforming, and Kearns is performing exactly as he has been asked to and advertised.

Posted by: SF Fan | September 16, 2008 3:17 PM | Report abuse

"WMP has been tried at 1st by EE#4 and failed."

If the Red Sox are EE#4, who are EE#2 and EE#3? (I know who EE#1 is.)

Posted by: EE = Electrical Engineer, right? | September 16, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

The Galactic Empire?

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | September 16, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse


I'm up.

Posted by: new post | September 16, 2008 3:22 PM | Report abuse

"I still like both Kearns and Guzman. I don't see how you can call Guzman underperforming, and Kearns is performing exactly as he has been asked to and advertised."

Guzman, to be sure, underperformed in 2005. Although to his credit he never made excuses for it, nor as I recall did the team make excuses for it either. They just threw him out there day after day to be booed. Once he got his surgeries and came back in 2007 after missing the whole previous season, Guzman finally began performing as advertised. It's too bad he got hurt last year and had to miss a big chunk of the season. While he was playing, he was great.

Kearns OTOH has never performed here up to what was expected of him when he was acquired, and there's always been some implicit or unstated excuse for that. In 2006, it was because he was having trouble making the adjustment to the new club after being traded away from his hometown team. Then in 2007 it was because of the lingering mental effects of the collision with Nick Johnson. This year, it was because he was playing hurt all year even though no one knew it. With Kearns, like Roseanne Rosannadanna used to say, it's always something. But maybe it's really just that he's not all that good.

Posted by: 506's snark has a groin pull | September 16, 2008 3:30 PM | Report abuse

Sanches & Schroder have been removed from the 40 man....doubt they will be with the team next season.

It will be interesting to see if the Nats offer arbritration to Cordero & Colome. Both are likely to be Type B free agents and the Nats would get a supplemental pick if either signs elsewhere after declining arbitration.

Posted by: Los Doce Ocho | September 16, 2008 3:34 PM | Report abuse

First, has BallPark Guys reappeared somewhere else, or are they still down? Also, is there any other messsage boards worth visiting?

Regarding Detwiler, every player matures and advances through a farm system differently. Detwiler had some difficult times at Potomac (though the team was tinkering with his delivery to be fair) while Jordan Zimmermann blew past him to 'AA' Harrisburg. I don't think any of us beleives that Zimmermann, the former star of Wisconsin - Stevens Point, is the more talented pitcher. He's just maturing faster.

Remember how many of us were whining about the $1.4 million dollar bonus-baby Smiley Gonzalez when he was hitting .243 for the GCL Nats last year? This year, he added 100 points to his average, led the league in hitting, and is now one of the league's top-20 prospects.

I think Detwiler will do just fine. He'll probably see a good deal of time at Harrisburg next year.

Posted by: The Beltway Boy | September 16, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Dang - I whiffed again!! :D

"On first."

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

They're back - somebody recently posted a P-Nats thread link. I took a look at the forum the other day but the locker room atmosphere was too crude for my own taste. Your mileage may vary, however.

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First, has BallPark Guys reappeared somewhere else, or are they still down? Also, is there any other messsage boards worth visiting?

Posted by: natsfan1a | September 16, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I heard recently that Mike Jacobs 1B of the Marlins was not happy in Dolphin Land. Maybe JimBo could send DYOUNG, NJ, and a bag of balls over to the Fish for Jacobs.

Jacobs is a masher and is probably good for 25 hrs and 100 rbi's. Also is Pat Burrell a FA next year? Probably could sign him for a decent price.

Posted by: Tippy Canoe | September 16, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Evil Empire rankings are based on MLB pay roll. Tigers and Mets are 2 & 3, but I forget the order. Sox will have chopped about $54 million from their end of 2007 payroll by November of this year.

Posted by: PTBNL | September 16, 2008 5:47 PM | Report abuse

Dmitri Young: "If it happens, it happens," Young said of returning to action. "If it doesn't, I'm not going to lose sleep." Nice....

Posted by: MVM | September 17, 2008 7:17 AM | Report abuse

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