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Changes Coming for Commenters

In the next few days, The Post will begin to require registration in order to comment on its various blogs. During installation, there will be a short period -- hopefully no more than a couple of hours -- in which you will not be able to post comments at all. Sorry I can't be more specific about when exactly this will occur.

Registration has been on the horizon for awhile, but it was accelerated after a recent spam attack that seriously bogged down the site.

By Tracee Hamilton  |  October 21, 2008; 10:13 AM ET
 
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party's over. no more Any Mouse's

Posted by: N@sfan | October 21, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081020&content_id=3633188&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was&partnerId=rss_was

These are some of the dumbest questions I've ever read.

Posted by: 756* | October 21, 2008 10:49 AM | Report abuse

bummer

Posted by: Anonymous | October 21, 2008 10:57 AM | Report abuse

"These are some of the dumbest questions I've ever read."

There are no dumb questions.

Posted by: only dumb answers | October 21, 2008 11:31 AM | Report abuse

Hallelujah. Hopefully this will help elevate the tone a bit.

Posted by: Steven on Capitol Hill | October 21, 2008 12:22 PM | Report abuse

Sign Mah Petition!

Repeat

Repeat

Repeat

Posted by: Fake SOCH | October 21, 2008 12:26 PM | Report abuse

It's ironic that the person who may have single-handedly driven away the most people who used to frequent this site is cheering the hope of a more elevated tone...

Posted by: JennX | October 21, 2008 12:34 PM | Report abuse

JennX speaks the truth.

Posted by: Section 505/203 | October 21, 2008 12:48 PM | Report abuse

Hey Jenn - a shout-out from the frozen tundra!

Posted by: Wigi | October 21, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

At least those homos will quit impersonating me.

Posted by: Stephen of Captiol Hill | October 21, 2008 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Praise Jesus. Now those homos will stop impersonating me.

Posted by: Steven on Capitol Hill | October 21, 2008 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Could we not use the word 'homos', even when mocking Steve. Or being Steve.

Not a terrible idea making us sign in. Rather like it myself.

Interesting that there is an article about Rhinehart, he seems to be very good for someone that has never really seemed highly rated within the organisation.

Posted by: Ben | October 21, 2008 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Sorry. I'm being oppressed by the gay mafia at the Washington Post.

Posted by: Steven on Capitol Hill | October 21, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

when did the washingtonpost turn into big brother?

Posted by: love | October 21, 2008 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Probably about the same time that cyberspace turned into Lord of the Flies.

Posted by: NR William Golding | October 21, 2008 2:51 PM | Report abuse

More like The Birds (1963).

Posted by: NR Alfred Hitchcock | October 21, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Yes, inappropriate collecting of personal information! And in Washington too! It's unprecedented!

Posted by: Ben | October 21, 2008 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Ooh. Mock the government. I just earned myself a wiretap. Now they'll discover my nefarious plan to destroy America by making the Lerners president.

Posted by: Ben | October 21, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

How am I going to impersonate others for humorous effect?!

Posted by: Clint | October 21, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

so much for bullwinkle's favorite poster...A. Nony. Moose.

Posted by: natsscribe | October 21, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

We discussed this last year with Barry, I remember. I stand by the conclusion that I came to there. This only dissuades people who care what others think of them.

The trolls will keep on trolling (see, Redskins Insider), but with registered troll names.

And lurkers will be even less inclined to join the community.

It's a very poor decision.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | October 21, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

The question (if you don't have registration, which weeds out the bots) is what you do to prevent the bots from flooding the board (which they did last week -- I bet that we only saw a tiny percentage of the posts that hit the servers)? Make everyone do the "human test" (the swirly words/letters thingie) for each post? That'd go over great.

Posted by: OldGuy | October 21, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Making posters sign in is pretty standard, and I'm surprised it took the Post this long to require. We all have WaPo accounts anyway, why not require us to use those? In fact, I think for some of the more incendiary WaPo blogs it's already required (e.g. the political ones where posters are inflammatory just to give others heartburn).

Anyway, I don't think it's a big deal. My moniker was simply chosen b/c it is relatively easy to type. I was even considering shortening it to just "*". Sometimes I don't even feel like typing that. Props to you "Section 506 (Before moving)" for your dedication.

Posted by: 756* | October 21, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

"which they did last week"

What happened last week?

Posted by: 756* | October 21, 2008 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Works for me. I completely enjoy the intelligent discourse that *usually* happens here and have no problems identifying who I really am. I was really worried we'd lose our forum to the anonymous morons when we started hearing people talking of leaving this blog.

Posted by: Sec131 | October 21, 2008 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Tall women (from Mars? No, more likely from Scamville) who could only just barely write in recognizable English were trying to entice us to visit a particular web site (hrmm... I should go there and see what they want to infect my network with... or maybe not...)...

Posted by: OldGuy | October 21, 2008 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I have always used the same name....no problems with that. ABM is the one who will no longer be able to carry one as he has been this month. No loss there, he was the only one who enjoyed his 70 character names anyway.

Ian Desmond has 7 errors in 8 games in the AFL. Ross D has not pitched in about 10 days....wonder if he is hurt. Emilio is doing well at 2nd in the Dominican League but still striking out way too much for a top of the order guy. No word on the FL instructinal league, anyone see any stats from that effort?

I would have thought Bergman would be pitching this winter but I have not seen anything yet. No WMP either but he sure could use some AB's before Spring Training. Milledge should be playing CF everyday this winter as he says that is all he needs to be All Star CFer.......

Posted by: JayB | October 21, 2008 7:14 PM | Report abuse

shoot. my post logon name is different from my NJ handle. oh well

Posted by: 6th and D | October 21, 2008 8:11 PM | Report abuse

I have always used the same name across the blogosphere. Here, Nats320, firejimbowden, all of them. And as the bozo who outed me the other day knows as well, even on my own blog. How many of you other opinionated bozos can be traced back to a real, live person? Don't all jump up at once now.

You guys really need to get over this idea that every post made here that doesn't agree with your viewpoint is being made by me.

Posted by: An Briosca Mor | October 21, 2008 8:36 PM | Report abuse

Not true ABM, I recall many times in past years when you admitted that you use 419+1 here and ABM there and other things other places.

Not worth the effort to prove it but a real stand up person would admit it instead of lie.

Posted by: JayB | October 21, 2008 8:45 PM | Report abuse

Is there any question. Now, since I first went on the Dugout Chatter, DC baseball blog before Bud the Dumb actually realized that he was not going to be able to shut down the franchise along with the Twins, and in the future.

Posted by: Catcher50 | October 21, 2008 9:06 PM | Report abuse

"Not true ABM, I recall many times in past years when you admitted that you use 419+1 here and ABM there and other things other places.

Not worth the effort to prove it but a real stand up person would would admit it instead of lie."

Not true. If I ever said this on the Internet, a simple Google search would turn that statement up in no time. Have at it.

As I said, JayB, I at least can be traced back to a real person with a modicum of effort. More than can be said by you or anyone else here. You may use the same name all the time, but no one knows who you are. You're anonymous, really, and you need to get off your high horse about this.

Posted by: An Briosca Mor | October 21, 2008 9:35 PM | Report abuse

As long as the WP doesnt require asset fund statements, I'm cool with the Nats Journal lockdown.

I'll miss the occasional party girl message and corresponding Nats baseball references (Was that Dmitri's masseuse soliciting business?), but lord knows the hamster wheels operating the WP server can only handle so much.


As an aside from the he said - he said, is it possible to be a Nats fan and root for the Phillies in the series? I never really understood the "support teams from your division thing". And I'm pretty much appalled by most matters from Philly outside of the whole creation of liberty.

Unfortunately, the rayZ feel like a fad to me. I almost want to stuff my TB support in the same drawer as my pet rock and parachute pants.

If only both teams could lose and the playoffs have a do-over.

Posted by: Los Doce Ocho | October 21, 2008 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey your right...ABM.... that google search thing took 30 seconds.....

An Briosca Mor said...
As I said on Barry Svrluga's blog (where I used to call myself Section 419) about 10:00 this morning:

I found this on Nats320 Nov 16, 2007......want to admit now to RKGF and all the others you used this past few months?

Posted by: JayB | October 22, 2008 4:50 AM | Report abuse

Ladson today (I know 506 but he is the only one working the beat in the MSM) catches up with our posts last week about lack of progress on coaching staff..........I like the approach Nats are taking with the new coaching staff.....younger, not Acta cronies, and attempt to get proven coaches like who have been fired recently.......good baseball men get fired all the time.........I also like the approach they seem to be trying in parallel, that is, promoting within the organization, like Sterns and Eckstein and R. Knorr. I for one, noted last month a big jump in energy and approach at the plate when Eckstien was added. Zuckerman and Chico both dismissed this comment as did Ladson at the time but hey it seems someone agrees with me and our next hitting coach is going to be Eck.

Same with Sterns, the few days he coach 3rd last year I was at the park and noticed his professionalism during BP and in the game. No handoffs at 3rd....just a long time professional approach to the game.

Bottom line for me is find the Joe Maddens and Ned Yosts of the world, one being fired recently and one being buried on a staff for 25 years and pay them well to turn this teams fundamentals around. I do not know if Sterns is the guy but I do know that Acta’s staff were not the ones. Jimbo's job is to hire the best people and this is a great opportunity to upgrade the quality of baseball. Coaching staff does matter......just look at last year’s team.

Posted by: JayB | October 22, 2008 6:00 AM | Report abuse

"As an aside from the he said - he said, is it possible to be a Nats fan and root for the Phillies in the series?"


No.

.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | October 22, 2008 9:18 AM | Report abuse

No complaints, JayB, other than the one you already predicted. I would only quibble with your term "cronies" for the fired coaches. Joe Torre or Lou Pinella or Frank Robinson had cronies. Acta had safety blankets.

As for my name, I appreciate the props, but I fear I must come clean: I'm even lazier than you could possibly imagine. See, I have auto-complete turned on in my computer and rarely type more than "S" before the whole thing fills in itself!

My Post name is already set to Section506, but if I wanted the whole deal I could always just change it in preferences. My insignificant objection (because, honestly, what does WaPo care?) is that the new system discourages a first-time poster. I'd rather have the bots and new blood than even more of just us frequenters and no advertisements that the Post isn't getting payed for.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | October 22, 2008 9:24 AM | Report abuse

LDO, although there are those who advocate it, I'm not wired such that I can root against a division opponent all year and then turn around and root for them in the postseason (particularly if it's the Mets or the Phillies). Your mileage may vary. Also, I've been following the Rays' story all year and rooted even harder for them to make the playoffs after David Ortiz' early July comments about that possibility (that, and I tend to root for underdogs in the postseason). However, I can relate to your comments about both teams losing as I would have been in the same situation had the Sox reached the series (in fact, I was contemplating not watching had that happened as I would not have wanted to see either team win). My advice is to not seek advice but to follow your heart (or gut if you prefer).

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 22, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

re: coaching
I think Gary Carter is available...

Posted by: 756* | October 22, 2008 10:07 AM | Report abuse

"My insignificant objection (because, honestly, what does WaPo care?) is that the new system discourages a first-time poster."
____________
I'm not sure about this. Anyone who actually wants to read the Post online has to register.

Posted by: 756* | October 22, 2008 10:08 AM | Report abuse

"Hey your right...ABM.... that google search thing took 30 seconds.....

An Briosca Mor said...
As I said on Barry Svrluga's blog (where I used to call myself Section 419) about 10:00 this morning:"

Sure, I used to sit in Section 419 at RFK and probably did post to Svrluga's blog then using that section number. But there were others using that section number too, including this 419+1 you guys are fixated on, which is why I switched to my blogger name instead that I'd already been using on other blogger sites. So your extrapolating from there to say that I've been responsible for every post you don't agree with over the past several years is quite a stretch. Almost like me saying that every misspelled or semi-coherent post, or every anti-Manny Acta post here is really coming from JayB. Maybe it is, but really, who cares? Obviously some of you guys are overly fixated on sussing out the secret identity of the uber-poster who hates you and everything you stand for, so if that floats your boat keep at it. I won't be registering the name An Briosca Mor in the new system, but you all are free to assume that every post you don't like is coming from me if that's what you want. I'll just sit here and laugh every time you do.

Posted by: An Briosca Mor | October 22, 2008 10:18 AM | Report abuse

natsfan1a,
I guess I'll follow my gut since, alas, it is way bigger than my heart.

I'm probably the most fickle of all since I will root for whoever is behind in the hopes we can extend the season as long as possible.

Let's play two!

Posted by: SlowPitch63 | October 22, 2008 11:03 AM | Report abuse

>I won't be registering the name An Briosca Mor in the new system, but you all are free to assume that every post you don't like is coming from me if that's what you want.

Posted by: Brue | October 22, 2008 11:07 AM | Report abuse

In reference to deleted post above - I have big shoulders, and it sounds like this dude can't handle the pressure of being anonymous, so he's going to change his anonymous sig once again because he thinks someone actually cares.

Posted by: Brue | October 22, 2008 11:09 AM | Report abuse

I wonder if it'll be a different registration from the current system, or if they'll mod it... right now you can't change your username (which, in some ways, is actually - for those who care about the flurries of posts from "different" users - good). It does mean that I'll be posting here (on the infrequent basis that I manage to do so) under a different name if they don't alter that since I won't bother to make a new account. But WillJohnson111 just don't have that jen es se qua that

Posted by: OldGuy does... Oh, well. | October 22, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

"...doesn't have..."

Posted by: OldGuy | October 22, 2008 11:55 AM | Report abuse

I like the thought of extending the season, SP63. Speaking of rooting, how did things go for your softball teams, if I might ask?

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

Hey everyone....

Posted by: let's enjoy abusing the naming system as much as possible! | October 22, 2008 1:08 PM | Report abuse

natsfan1a,
Thanks for asking. My heart may be a dark little cinder but you have found it by asking about one of my passions.
- Over 60 tournament team won two tournaments and lost 11
- Over 50 tournament team won one tournament and lost 8.
- PW County Sr team finished in the middle of the pack in regular season and in the tournament.
- FFX County morning team in the Summer middle of the pack in regular season and same in the tournament
- FFX county morning Fall bottom of the league.
- FFX county open team second place in the summmer and middle of the pack in the Fall.

Now very personal issue - I go in for knee replacement surgery tomorrow. Second knee will be done later. I think it is either because I don't play enough softball; or because in my youth I crashed too many helicopters in foreign lands and/or ran too many miles on pavement in combat boots.

Let's play two!

Posted by: SlowPitch63 | October 22, 2008 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Comments will be integrated with the main wapo.com registration (you can test it on other blogs already like Redskins Insider and politics blogs). If you don't like your username, my suggestion would be if you have another email address, you can just logout and register with your other email and the username you'd like to use on blogs.

Ouch, good luck with the knee replacement, SP63!

Posted by: MC | October 22, 2008 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Hope it goes better than my intent to have a talent replacement.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | October 22, 2008 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Gosh, you have a lot of teams, SP63!

Hope that all goes well with your surgeries (and thank you for your service).

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 22, 2008 2:09 PM | Report abuse

As we transition into this Brave New World of comment registration, I guess if you ever hear from me again it will be under my real WaPo registered name - which contrary to popular belief is not ABM or 419+1. But before I leave here, I feel I must apologize for not having a fake internet name that's as stand up as that most stand up of fake internet names, JayB. But in partial atonement for that, let me leave you with this warning. If you ever experience a stand up fake internet name lasting more than four hours, consult your doctor.

Posted by: Ray King's Gut Feeling | October 22, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

ABM,

You’re really not fooling anyone but I am glad you will in the future stick to one fake name instead of the 70 character running comment type. You have a good point of view, go with your strengths.

Posted by: JayB | October 22, 2008 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Detwiler pitched two innings on each of October 9, 13 and 17 so his turn is probably up again soon. Six shutout innings so far by the way.

Leonard Davis is hitting .314/.351/.457, we need to get that guy on the 40-man or someone's going to steal him in the Rule V.

Posted by: Bob L. Head | October 22, 2008 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Are we seriously arguing about names? Really?

I mean, sure, our team stinks. But are they so bad that we can't even talk about them? Are they so bad that the reason we come on the blog ABOUT them is to just ransack other people who do the same?

yikes.

In other news, I am saddened by the new registration just because I really liked some of the names people came up with. It also was fun to bump into Traveler and introduce myself as NattyDelite! Just won't be the same if it happens again...

Posted by: NattyDelite! | October 22, 2008 3:07 PM | Report abuse

No need to pine for tried-and-true monikers, NattyDelite. It looks like we can keep our monikers via the method that MC (presumably a Post representative) suggested in an earlier comment.

Posted by: natsfan1a | October 22, 2008 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Why keep your moniker if people are just going to assume that you're writing stuff that doesn't appear with your moniker on it anyway?

Posted by: i'm not ABM or JayB but I approved this message | October 22, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Right on Jennx and good to see your name Wigi, but the old post when bloggers actually discussed baseball on a regular basis is gone. Natscan has not been around for months. e has signed off. Even flynnie and 231 have cut ties, up to a point. And there are others. Good to see some of you diehards hanging in there. I won't say to whom I'm referring in case I miss someone. Heck, even you, JayB, who I've never agreed with, well, almost never, is hanging in there, and that, in my opinion, is for the good.
By the way, I still think A.Gonzalez is a posibility at first base. He could be had, I think. Sorry, I didn't mean to bring up something that had something to do with the baseball team.

Posted by: Jeeves | October 22, 2008 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Alberto Gonzales at first base? That's a new one.

Posted by: hardly makes sense, though | October 22, 2008 5:34 PM | Report abuse

JayB Why do you think Bergman needs to pitch winter ball. What does he need to work on? Why is JimBo picking Manny's coaches? I thought managers picked their coaches. Does this say a lot why they are turning down the opportunities?

Posted by: Tom | October 22, 2008 8:13 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say something before I have to change my moniker. I am rooting for the Rays in the hope that we can be like them one of these years. They are Rays of hope for teams like ours! And yes the tone on the NJ has been pretty cranky for a while but I hope it has something to do with slow Nats news and Chico's absence as he covers the postseason. SP63, you are now on my prayer list and, as natsfan1a says, thank you for your service.

Posted by: Section 109 | October 22, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

I would think that Bergman needs to gain confidence by pitching against lesser competition that MLB regular season line ups. His problems are all in his head.

Yes, proven mangers in good organizations get to pick their staffs. Does that sound like the current Nats organization? No, Acta is not a proven manager. Look at Joe Madden and how led the Rays. Look at the passion and how they stood up to Yanks in Spring Training and Red Sox in several explosive games in June.

Then look at Acta and how he did not lead the Nats at any point, from ST to end of September. Jimbo is going to pick the staff because Jimbo must win now or lose his job. Acta has never shown he understands that winning games is the goal and that managers must push the team to win. He just gets lost in his zen positive thinking crap.......not winning baseball.

My feeling is Acta has about 6 weeks to prove he understands how to win games......if not Jimbo has to replace him with the new Bench coach of his choosing. Is this a good approach, no, but this the state of Nats, ownership to front office, just very at there jobs.........

Posted by: JayB | October 22, 2008 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see who threw out the ceremonial first pitch for game 1 tonight?

Posted by: estuartj | October 22, 2008 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Anyone think Milledge makes that throw.......ever.....that is why we must have a CF.....Dukes would make that play.....not Milledge 10 out of 10 times.

Posted by: JayB | October 22, 2008 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Gee whiz,
No, not Alberto. I'm talking about Adrian, a possible trade I mentioned twice before. God, blogging is a useless, self-serving waste of time.

Posted by: Jeeves | October 22, 2008 9:24 PM | Report abuse

MC, natsfan1asec 109,
Thank you for your kind words. As I'm sure you will, keep in mind those veterans who have paid a much higher price than I. All prayers gratefully accepted.

Let's play two!

Posted by: SlowPitch63 | October 22, 2008 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Gee whiz,
No, not Alberto. I'm talking about Adrian, a possible trade I mentioned twice before. God, blogging is a useless, self-serving waste of time.

Posted by: Jeeves | October 22, 2008 9:24 PM

Well then say Adrian. You think we keep track of everything everyone ever says here?

Posted by: except for ABM of course. JayB is tracking every word he's never said. | October 22, 2008 10:10 PM | Report abuse

JayB, how did your hero Joe Maddon do managing Elijah Dukes and Dmitri's little bro Delmon in 2007? Led them to the Series, did he? Oh, wait, he finished with the worst record in baseball, not unlike Manny Acta this year. When will you realize that a manager's effectiveness is largely a function of the players he's given to work with?

Posted by: here's a long username that really was written by ABM, so you don't have to pretend with this one | October 22, 2008 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Adrian Gonzalez would be costly, very good ops and only 26 yo. Unless less SD goes FLA firesale on us I doubt he's available and even if he is I don't see us gutting our farm system to get him. In this case I think a FA signee is more likely since worst case we lose our 2nd round pick.

Posted by: estuartj | October 22, 2008 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Towers has been reported to state Gonzalez is not available - only consistent power source on the team and an unbelievably team friendly contract through 2010 with a $5.5 mil team option for 2011.

Doesnt look as though there are going to be many first basemen requiring draft pick compensation this year - Teixeira will, Thome will if CWS buys him out, Burrell, Kent and Dunn will as potential conversions to 1B, but everybody else projects less than a Type B free agent and wouldnt require compensation.

I get a vibe the team is going to trade for a young power bat at either 1B or OF. Someone arbritration eligible with 3-4.5 years of service time. I'm thinking guys like Francouer, Kubel, Fielder, Hermida or Howard. Possibly even trade for a younger player signed long term that is a bit out of favor like Swisher or Blalock.

I would imagine the team then filling the remaining roster spots with cheap free agent veterans, similar to last year.

If the Phillies and Rays can offer hope for the (not immediate) future, its that teams dont have to sign a big dollar, long term free agent to contend for a title.

Posted by: Los Doce Ocho | October 23, 2008 12:18 AM | Report abuse

>They are Rays of hope for teams like ours!<

Not too far fetched from a pitching perspective, all of their starters are 27 or younger. Of course, it's much easier to pitch when your team can hit.
Lannan
Balester
Bergmann
Zimmerman


Posted by: Brue | October 23, 2008 1:06 AM | Report abuse

Thanks for the shout-out, Jeeves! I've enjoyed your comments here. Perhaps it is the losing of the light, or perhaps it's because I'm sober, but I can't see a Tampa Bay worst to first transformation here. Longoria was signed to an $18 M contract in his rookie year. Zimmerman is waiting to get away from the Losin' Lerners. It sure was fun to watch the World Series game 1 tonight, where a worst to fist team barely lost to the Team Assembled By Pat Gillick, whom Peter Angelos fired, and I listened on the radio, where Jon Miller, whom Peter Angelos fired, was in fine form.

Posted by: flynnie | October 23, 2008 2:59 AM | Report abuse

Just tried your trick using another e-mail account, and it thanks me for registering under my real name. In other words, MC, your trick didn't work, although I'd love for you to set it out step by step. I'm not blogging under my full name, which is what the Post insists on using. It shouldn't be this hard to change. Until then, goodbye all! I'll really miss ya!

Posted by: flynnie | October 23, 2008 3:13 AM | Report abuse

Nope Madden dumped Dukes and Young. He benched Upton several times this past season, for not playing hard or making dump fundamental mistakes......THAT IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN ACTA, who just says, young guys should be allowed to learn the game of baseball in the Major Leagues......Thanks for pointing out even more major differences between Madden, a real leader and Acta.

Posted by: JayB | October 23, 2008 5:58 AM | Report abuse

I agree that ADRIAN Gonzalez is most unlikely. It's just that SD has a young stud at double A who had a great year. What you suggest LDO is more likely, although I don't see any chance for Fielder or Howard. It would be nice but what would be the fit.
And SD is trading Peavy, I think. Thought they might be rebuilding.

Posted by: Jeeves | October 23, 2008 7:24 AM | Report abuse

Ah figured it out. After registering the first time, it uses your email name as your name on the wapo.com header. Then the first time you click the "Sign in" link on a blog to comment, it will ask you to pick your "MyPost ID" and confirm your email address. That's where/when you can set it.

Posted by: MC | October 23, 2008 8:00 AM | Report abuse

Madden has a very talented team. I can see why he got rid of Dukes and Delmon Young.

Posted by: 6th and D | October 23, 2008 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, again MC! It only let me register as flynnie1,not flynnie, so, like the steak sauce, my handle now ends in "1", but it's me, flynnie.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

What a great game last night! And extremely enlightening to have the conversation miked where Maddon tried to convince the ump that Hammels was balking. My baby daughter thought that managers only screamed at umps, and was impressed with how collegial, civilized and technical was the discourse on what is a balk. This is flynnie. It's calling me anonymous now.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 12:00 PM | Report abuse

I'm running into the same thing. I registered as natsfan1a but when I did a test post it said that I was anonymous and not registered (I was logged in at the time).

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 12:16 PM | Report abuse

How can Joe Maddon be considered as the epitome of a good manager by some around here when he goes out to argue with the ump and can't even get himself thrown out of the game? A charge that of course was levied against supposedly "no fire in the belly" Manny Acta many times last season. The guilty parties know who they are of course.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 12:30 PM | Report abuse

Ha ha ha. Looks like we're all anonymous now, eh? Like we all weren't anonymous before, even those on their high horses with their stand up fake Internet names. Remember, I said I'd be laughing at you all, and so I am.

Posted by: Anonymous | October 23, 2008 12:33 PM | Report abuse

It's not completely rolled out here yet, looks like. Eventually you'll see a "sign in" link! In the meantime you can click "Preview" and fill in a name :-)

Posted by: Anonymoussie | October 23, 2008 1:06 PM | Report abuse

Nice tip, moussie. Yeah, that was clearly a balk, too. They had the ump mic'ed up and played the conversation and he was giving some real shaky answers with the "I know I'm wrong, sorry, but you know I can't say that" tone.

Posted by: Section 506 (Before moving) | October 23, 2008 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Testing

Posted by: Bob Greiner | October 23, 2008 2:36 PM | Report abuse

hmm, it would seem that I've added a "1" as well, flynnie.

(and ha ha to "ha ha ha")

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 23, 2008 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Le sigh...

Posted by: Section506 | October 23, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

No spaces allowed.

Posted by: 6thandD | October 23, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Weeeeeeee! (just taking comments for a spin)

Posted by: misschatter | October 23, 2008 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Stan just did 20 mins on WTEM.......If anyone else heard it please comment...Stan would not even answer the question from Coach T about if he was sticking with the Team directly....he basically said that it did not matter who was the President of the Team in Baseball but rather that the whole player development piece is functioning.....he said that that piece is now complete.....My read on this 2 1/2 years of following Stan's comments closely is that he is out very soon. He used a great deal of on committal language about who is committed to the Plan and who is supportive of the Plan....he even said he "hoped" and then corrected himself to say he was sure that ownership is on board.

I was driving and could have missed parts….Podcast would indeed be good on this one too……What did you all hear?

Posted by: JayBeee | October 23, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Hey, look, I'm a Dude now (not The Dude, just an Old Dude)... Oh, rats, I should have tried GuySmiley (only the greatest game show host ever!) to keep the "guy" part... Meh... The "dude" will abide... :)

Posted by: OldDude | October 23, 2008 4:48 PM | Report abuse

There's an audio archive of the Kasten segment here (as well as an interview with Ryan Zimmerman):

http://www.espn980.com/audiovault/

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 23, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

So Natsfan1a1,

Did you get a good feeling about Stan being here over the long run?

Posted by: JayBeee | October 23, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

No, I would have to say that I did not get a good feeling about it. Kasten did not address the questions about whether he would remain here. I hope that he will, but I don't know.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 23, 2008 7:17 PM | Report abuse

OK,

I've just tested and I think that I passed.

Jeeves could be correct about SD rebuilding. They brought in Maddux in a "let's win, now" mode, then they dumped. Methinks that the SoCal market is funny (as in weird, not ha ha) and after all of these years the Dodgers and Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, Orange County and Disney World seem to be the favorites, with SD being the Odd team out. Although some may not see the parallel, the SoCal situation looks like NYC before the Bums and Gints shifted west. Yanks & Dodgers were in and the Giants were an afterthought. SD seems to be a franchise in disarray (any team that would put on Camo unis as a way to appeal to the military based in the area really hasn't thought anything through). Maybe I'm bitter, because it should have become our team very early on.

I'm assuming that, within the near future, probably sometime in '09 either Kasten or Bowden will step down. Oddly enough it does not matter. If it's Kasten, Bowden is gone, because the new President would want to bring in his own GM (presumably that would be part of the deal). If it's Bowden (IMO more likely), Acta will be seriously re-evaluated. He won't be judged on on-field performance, as he has really not made an overabundance of in game mistakes, a la Willie Radolph (I'm currently reading "Living on the Black" by Feinstein who, by the way, does not really seem to understand some of the rules of baseball, and Randolph was just a disaster. Rather, he will be judged on how well he has worked to develop the young players and worked to develop a team leadership hierarchy.

Posted by: Catcher50 | October 23, 2008 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Testing the logon system here.

And agreeing (as I often do) with 1a1 that I hope Kasten sticks around.

Posted by: dcbatgirl | October 23, 2008 7:50 PM | Report abuse

Catcher50,

I know you have looked hard, as I have, at the fundamentals of this team. I value your judgment on this topic. After 2 years of Acta leadership, what do you see as the trend and what grade do you give Acta on your given set of standards?

Posted by: JayBeee | October 23, 2008 8:05 PM | Report abuse

Hm. I seem to have made it relatively unscathed through registration, although I seem to lack the same enthusiasm as before.

Posted by: NattyDelite | October 23, 2008 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Signing in...for what it's worth....My only hope is that Poopy McPoop/O's Exec cannot do the same...
I won't hold my breath...

Posted by: TimDz | October 23, 2008 9:12 PM | Report abuse

testing, testing, ...

Posted by: natbisquit | October 23, 2008 9:41 PM | Report abuse

OK good here I am. Perhaps it is referenced above but if you missed it, Nats320 blog transcribed the Bowden interview that was on the radio earlier in the week. http://nats320.blogspot.com/

Page down to the WFED post.

Sounds like the Nats are willing to listen to offers for Lannan and others if the price is right. What he really says is you can't have untouchables when you are trying to build....

BTW, is it time for spring training yet?

Posted by: natbisquit | October 23, 2008 9:46 PM | Report abuse

JayBee...

When Acta was hired, my assumption was that he would be here for about three years, functioning more as a teacher than in the traditional managerial role. I understood (and still agree) that the only realistic way to build a club was to go with youth. Let's remember that Bud the Vile had stripped the franchise of it's close future (i.e. Vlad Guerrero, etc.) as well as the serious prospects.

We're back to a point that I have repeatedly made. The '07 season was a fluke. '08 seems to have been the flip.
Logically, we should have geared ourselves to a team with the ability to, honestly, approach 81 wins in '09. I'm afraid that many of us (yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm as guilty as the next fan) saw '07 as reality. It wasn't.

I think that the club has brought in and/or drafted the kind of core group of players capable of getting to .500 next year, but will need to bring in at least 2 top end F/As.

Now, to get to your question about Manny. At this point, he really needs to prove himself in three areas:

1. Can he prove capable of improving the raw talent that is Elijah Dukes and Lastings Milledge to the point that they are all star candidates (notice I didn't say all stars, I said candidates)?

2. Is he capable of integrating a high priced free agent, who may well be a Prima Donna into the club?

3. Is he able to go to JimBow or Stan and say, xxx has not worked out. I don't care if you are paying him 4 mil. a year. Dump him and get me someone else. That is a tall order.

My opinion, with 3 to 5 games left in the W/S is that Manny has to assert himself before mid-February. Beyond that he has until about the All Star Break. Of course, I would love to see a Mike Soscia, Tony LaRussa, or Joe Torre type. Uhhh, do we see a pattern here that might be exposing my prejudices?

Posted by: Catcher50 | October 23, 2008 11:18 PM | Report abuse

"3. Is he able to go to JimBow or Stan and say, xxx has not worked out. I don't care if you are paying him 4 mil. a year. Dump him and get me someone else. That is a tall order."

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this is the big thing, here.

Posted by: MrMadison | October 24, 2008 2:02 AM | Report abuse

Catcher50,

Thanks for your response. I also feel Acta was a cheap, short term hire at the time unless he proved different.

My Question is 2 years into what you thought was a 3 year window for Acta......How is he doing on teaching fundamentals. Can they bunt, run the bases, hit the cut off man, work the count, hit behind runners when needed, move their feet when setting up to throw in the infield etc, braking up DB at second? These are my benchmarks, use yours if you like but the question is still out there.

How much progress has Acta made with teaching fundamentals 2/3 of the way through his window of coaching as you saw it?


Posted by: JayBeee | October 24, 2008 6:26 AM | Report abuse

"How much progress has Acta made with teaching fundamentals 2/3 of the way through his window of coaching as you saw it?"

How can you even use this as a criterion for evaluating a manager when he's had a continuously revolving cast of players to be teaching fundamentals to? In addition to being the manager, Manny Acta has been the infield coach of the Nats for the past two years. So you might say his team should be showing good infield fundamentals, which would be a good means of evaluating him - except for the small detail that over the course of one season, six different guys started at each of the four infield positions. That's 24 infielders alone that he would be expected to instill with good infield fundamentals. And instilling good fundamentals in a team is not like flipping a switch. It takes time. Pat Corrales got a lot of props for working with Flores and bringing about improvements in his game. But that's one coach working almost exclusively with one player over two entire seasons, and after all that Flores is still not perfect. You denigrate Manny Acta for not being able to instill good fundamentals in 24 guys over the course of a single season? Ridiculous!

Posted by: annominous | October 24, 2008 8:19 AM | Report abuse

What's the buzz, JayBee? Fellow pun-lovers will have fun with the cruel reality imposed by the log-in system on you, my friend.

Anyway, I think annominous has a point about the rotating cast of characters, but totally, needlessly escalated. Your question was completely, 100% legit and not at all "denigrating." We know what you think of Acta, but you weren't foisting on anyone, sorry about that!

To answer your question before someone smart does, Acta's progress teaching and preaching is too hard to measure. Next year we will finally have some progress to watch or miss, in sha allah.

Posted by: Section506 | October 24, 2008 9:37 AM | Report abuse

>You denigrate Manny Acta for not being able to instill good fundamentals in 24 guys over the course of a single season?<

The Nats had more different batting orders than anyone in the majors last year. By a lot. Part of that is turnover, and part of that is not having a clue as to where your players should hit. You can't blame that on anyone but the manager. If you put Guzman at leadoff, and he continually gets stranded, who's fault is that? If you put Milledge at 3rd in the order, when he's on his first go-round seeing pitchers, other than his ABs with the Mets, then aren't you killing the team while he continually swings at out pitches? It's also his fault that he kept running Kearns out there even though he was way past his expiration date. Manny's not a helpless pawn, he's cutting his, and the team's throat through his actions.

Posted by: Brue | October 24, 2008 10:00 AM | Report abuse

Bruce is correct that Acta is accountable for his teams....not one team but two.....both which either lead the league in errors or were close to it. Both his teams ran into outs more than any team I ever followed.

The level of talent should have no impact on the fundamentals of the team. At this level of professional baseball, bunting, or knowing when to take a pitch or hit to the right side is not about talent but a frame of mind that starts with the manager.

This team will not improve until Acta stops making excuses for his players and demands they pay attention to the game. It does not matter if he has 8 players of 24 players playing over the course of the year.....His job is to demand that when you go into a MLB game you are ready to play the game the right way......Can anyone see that in this team?

Posted by: JayBeee | October 24, 2008 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Joe Madden this year had to integrate FA, a couple of veterans (not high priced), and a bunch of youth. Hopefully, we will have the same landscape here next year.

The Rays have excellent fundamentals, so there is no reason why we, or any other team shouldn't with proper instruction.

Posted by: goexpos2 | October 24, 2008 12:35 PM | Report abuse

Testing, testing. Whatta pain.

Posted by: ltillman1955@comcast.net | October 24, 2008 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Still a few bugs to be worked out. eh?

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 24, 2008 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the Rays, count me among those who marvels at the superior athleticism of their centerfielder as compared to ours. Upton plays much shallower than Milledge and just seems to effortlessly glide to balls hit over his head. All this, while spending his entire baseball life until mid-2007 as an infielder. And no comparisons in their throwing arms. Milledge cannot go back on the ball. Thus, by playing so deep, you get burned twice: 1) By dink and dunk hits; and 2) By him fielding base hits much deeper, he does not have the arm strength to throw runners out from those parts of the outfield. At least if he played shallower there'd be a fighting chance to throw some guys out. Then at the plate, when I see Upton I see a guy who has some holes, but has much quicker bat than Milledge. Milledge can still get blown away by good high fastballs. Upton cannot.

Conclusion: I don't know, really. Just could not help notice the difference between them and feeling a little envious.

Posted by: DoctorJoe | October 24, 2008 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Upton plays much shallower than Milledge and just seems to effortlessly glide to balls hit over his head.
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Except for the three catchable balls in the last four games that have sailed over his head uncaught...

Just as I think it would be better if Milledge could play five or six steps shallower, I would want Upton to play five or six steps deeper.

Posted by: OldDude | October 24, 2008 2:38 PM | Report abuse

new coaches announced on Nationals web page. Knorr, Riggleman, Listach, Grissom and Eckstein join St Clair.

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 24, 2008 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Okay, I am now on the new system, with the number 8 on the end! Hello, Natty, hope all is going well in Hawaii.

Posted by: Traveler8 | October 24, 2008 3:12 PM | Report abuse

New post up re. coaches.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 24, 2008 4:28 PM | Report abuse

I don't see the difference of signing in vice not signing in. My User ID remains the same as signing into the Main Post site.

Is "signing in" going to be necessary on the online chats the Post has every day?

Posted by: CALSGR8 | October 26, 2008 1:02 PM | Report abuse

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