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The Waiting Begins. Well, Continues.

Not much new today on Teixeira, but I found a few nuggets to pass on as I wait with trembling hand for Dave to hand in his expenses from Vegas.

The Sun's Peter Schmuck says that fans of the TTMNBN shouldn't be angry if Teixeira ends up in Washington instead of Baltimore.

A transcript from the Nationals Insider on WFED is available at Nats320.

Terry Francona won't take the bait on a Tex question, but describes the winter meetings as "boring."

And finally, I heard from the anonymous "Josh" who wrote the blog item I linked to on the jorgesaysno blogspot. Josh Levitt emailed me to let me know he's a sophomore at AU and a Mets fan and baseball lover.

By Tracee Hamilton  |  December 12, 2008; 8:56 AM ET
 
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...and apparently inspired by the same fever-based delusions of grandeur that I am.

Posted by: Section506 | December 12, 2008 9:34 AM | Report abuse

Sheinin's piece today mentioned the plan Bs. I'm glad to see Ibanez's name in the mix. He has played 135 or sogames at 1st in his career, and how could he be worse than Dunn with the glove? Bats left, a bit older. Perhaps he should be plan C, behind both Tex and Dunn, but I like the flexibility of a 1B/LF for the roster. He'd more or less be a place holder for Marrerro, rather than a 4 or more year commtiment, but his bat should be credible and his cost might even allow us to pursue O-Dog, too (assuming moving Willingham, Nick, or AK).

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | December 12, 2008 9:44 AM | Report abuse

Uh... I think Ibanez just signed with the Phils. At least thats what MLB trade rumors says...

Posted by: CluelessNatsFan | December 12, 2008 9:47 AM | Report abuse

I'm still not convinced Dunn is really a Plan B, so much as a plastic green hoppy frog that they give you at the state fair as a consolation prize, but doesn't do more than take up space until you finally throw it away.

Posted by: Section506 | December 12, 2008 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Yeah, kiss Ibanez goodbye. I don't think he was really on our radar anyways... Good pick up for the Phillies though and an upgrade over Burrell IMO...

http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/phillies_zone/

Posted by: Keenan1 | December 12, 2008 10:04 AM | Report abuse

"The Sun's Peter Schmuck says..."

Wow, what a name...

Posted by: jctichen | December 12, 2008 10:11 AM | Report abuse

506

Dunn walks a lot and hits a lot of home runs. He's a very good offensive player, and fill a lot of holes in our team. He may even be Young's equal defensively. Er...

Either way, he would be a great pick up, and banking on signing the top free agent is something that not even the heavy hitters in the the North East and LA can count on.

Hudson would also be a good pick-up but, but you wonder who he endangers Guzman or Hernandez.

Posted by: soundbloke | December 12, 2008 10:13 AM | Report abuse

If for no other reason I would love to hear those sweet words "Mark Teixera has signed with the Washington Nationals" so that we can watch/listen to all the "ass-clowns" on ESPN & ESPN Radio choke on their own saliva as they try to clear the goo from their throats and finally admit that there happens to be 30 major league teams in baseabll and not just 2.

Posted by: TippyCanoe | December 12, 2008 10:31 AM | Report abuse

I think Bowden should try to trade the #1 pick for Jake Peavy. That's a pretty reasonable contract and you know what you're getting.

Posted by: Bohemians1905 | December 12, 2008 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I have to admit I'm getting pretty excited about this. I hope that's not the kiss of death. Thinking about a middle of the order with Milledge, Dukes, Tex, Zim, Willingham batting 2,3,4,5,6 suddenly makes their offense look a lot better. I'm going to say that he signs with the Nats because he's a family guy, wants to be close to home. Even if the O's match the Nats offer, the tie breaker will be that the Nats have a better chance to win because they are not fighting uphill against the Yankee/Red Sox machine every year. We'll see.

#4

Posted by: db423 | December 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

yea. last night i was watching kruk almost be mad at the possibility of teixiera coming to the nats. even these experts can't understand that a free agent signing is about so much more than the first year.

look around. not many stud free agents in the prime of their careers. his position, bat, glove, age, locality all make him a great match for us. teams are locking in their youth earlier than ever now. not many scenarios will work out like this going forward. get him while we can...

Posted by: longterm | December 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

No it's not a good trade at all. A draft pick for one of the best pitchers in the game? If that trade was the other way around we'd be furious if Bowden made it.

Posted by: soundbloke | December 12, 2008 10:45 AM | Report abuse

i'd hit dukes 3rd and tex 4th and zimmerman 5th. i wonder if milledge can leadoff and guzman hit 2nd. that sure would open up the r/l/r/l/r. yes i am talking about it as if it's a sure thing now.

Posted by: longterm | December 12, 2008 10:51 AM | Report abuse

trading draft picks? this isn't one of those made for tv sports...

Posted by: longterm | December 12, 2008 10:52 AM | Report abuse

jctichen-
Agreed. Do yourself a favor and click on over to Mr. Schmuck's blog. I gotta say, I really admire the complete embrace of the hand he was dealt by that name...

Plus, he makes a good point about Tex.

Posted by: natinbeantown | December 12, 2008 10:53 AM | Report abuse

The talking heads only see Boston as the favorite because they can't fathom anyone wanting to play in DC. But if the Nats are the highest bidders, they'll land Tex.

Right now, it seems that at least part of Boston's interest in Teixeira is keeping him away from New York.

While I do believe they have a genuine interest, as he would make the Red Sox better, it's not necessarily an urgent, immediate need. I mean, the Sox were a game from the World Series last year.

If New York doesn't step into the box soon, it could well become a two-horse race. And without the Yankees in the picture, there may be less urgency coming from Boston. Advantage: Washington.

We'll have to wait and see how successful Boras is in luring New York back into the bidding.

Posted by: JohninMpls | December 12, 2008 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I think Bowden should try to trade the #1 pick for Jake Peavy. That's a pretty reasonable contract and you know what you're getting.

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you can't trade draft picks in baseball.

and you can't trade the players you draft for a full year after you draft them.

Posted by: MrMadison | December 12, 2008 11:13 AM | Report abuse

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However, Washington has put secondary plans into motion. If they fail to land Teixeira, the Nationals will ramp up efforts to land Adam Dunn and Orlando Hudson.
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from Joel Sherman of the New York Post, via MLBTR.

I'm hoping that if the Nats don't land Teixeira, they have significant offers on the table to both Dunn and Hudson within 10 minutes of Tex's signing announcement.

i'd do 5/75 to each of them.

Posted by: MrMadison | December 12, 2008 11:18 AM | Report abuse

^^^

depending on what Tex gets, of course.

Posted by: MrMadison | December 12, 2008 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Dear Lerners:

Show him the money!

Posted by: rb-freedom-for-all | December 12, 2008 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Mr. Madison:

I'd prefer Tex and ODog. I'm guessing you would too. I don't think signing Tex means they won't sign Hudson as well. They still another LH or switch batter with some chops to round out the line up. Hudson would fit the bill nicely.

#4

Posted by: db423 | December 12, 2008 11:41 AM | Report abuse

>The talking heads only see Boston as the favorite because they can't fathom anyone wanting to play in DC.

It was relatively simple, they subtracted Schilling, Crisp and Man-ny's contracts and they had more than enough to get Tex. I still get the creeping feeling that the only reason the Nats and O's advertised their numbers is to show everyone that they tried. The O's already said they would not increase the offer, which was about 22 mill/year.

Posted by: Brue | December 12, 2008 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Tex and Odog? I could live with that!

Posted by: MrMadison | December 12, 2008 11:50 AM | Report abuse

Do you all remember will Bill Ladson said last spring, that the Nats could win 90 games if they could avoid the injury bug. We all know what happened then...a Mash unit. If they land the mighty TEX and could somehow dodge the injury fiascos that hobbled the team last year, who knows, that 90+ target could come into focus again. I have a dream today...

Posted by: cokedispatch | December 12, 2008 11:52 AM | Report abuse

I know I'll get pillared for this but I hate the idea of committing that kind of money for that many years for anyone. There are just too many intangible. For every A-Rod, there is an Andruw Jones out there.

I actually prefer the idea of chasing Dunn and Hudson. This means we can play Hernandez as back up on the infield and hopefull get some defence in centre field.

Maybe even switch Milledge or Willingham for a serviceable innings eater for the rotation.

Posted by: soundbloke | December 12, 2008 11:53 AM | Report abuse

Soundbloke:

I agree with you in most cases, but here is different. We have a solid citizen whose skill set wears well with age. Sure he could get hurt, but other than that, it's about as low risk a long term contract as possible.

#4

Posted by: db423 | December 12, 2008 12:01 PM | Report abuse

I too would like to make the (I'll simplify the phrase) "clowns" at ESPN and othee large media outlets choke on their words. It's one thing to point at a team like the Orioles who have sucked for more than a decade under an idiot owner and say that they can't improve so don't sign there. It's entirely another to point at a team like the Nats that is 2.5 years into ownership and following a proven successful plan dismiss them as non-competitive. I have never bought the Lerners are Cheap argument as the reason the Nats played the last two years without expensive free agents. The endoresed plan was always to grow some prospects, let young players get a little experience in the majors, then add through trade and free agency. We are just now at the stage where phase two is called for.

The talking heads have to say something and they pander to the New York, Boston, LA crowd because that's where their viewers are. But would it kill them to tell the whole truth?

Posted by: natbisquit | December 12, 2008 12:14 PM | Report abuse

They're not concerned with the truth...only the ratings for advertising bucks. Appease the large markets. Kruk is an idiot.

Posted by: cokedispatch | December 12, 2008 12:52 PM | Report abuse

>Do you all remember will Bill Ladson said last spring, that the Nats could win 90 games if they could avoid the injury bug. We all know what happened then...a Mash unit. If they land the mighty TEX and could somehow dodge the injury fiascos that hobbled the team last year, who knows, that 90+ target could come into focus again.<

And you're calling Kruk an idiot?

Posted by: Brue | December 12, 2008 12:58 PM | Report abuse

Anyone care to research or comment on the Texeira offer coinciding with the due date for season ticket payments? I think it was a respectabole offer to gain the respect of baseball and the Nats fan base, but has not prospect of succeeding. It was an easy offer to make - if you land him, great if not, pocket the cash as well as the money from folks who renewed their season tickets as a result of hte offer.

Win-win for the front office, but a bait and switch for the fan base.

Posted by: GregHerrick | December 12, 2008 12:59 PM | Report abuse

>The endoresed plan was always to grow some prospects, let young players get a little experience in the majors, then add through trade and free agency. We are just now at the stage where phase two is called for.<

No, the plan was to be in a position to pick up free agents if it meant that it would give them legitimate shot at the playoffs, which means the existing team would have to have shown an ability to be up around .500 instead residing in a black hole. Picking up a major free agent when the team had the worst record in the majors was never part of any plan the team tried to sell us. But see, if you're willing to put blinders on for the Tex purchase, it's no different than putting the blinders on for a Man-ny purchase. Kruk was right about one thing, Man-ny is better than Tex will ever be. The genius that is Man-ny. Behold.

Posted by: Brue | December 12, 2008 1:05 PM | Report abuse

No, the plan was to be in a position to pick up free agents if it meant that it would give them legitimate shot at the playoffs, which means the existing team would have to have shown an ability to be up around .500 instead residing in a black hole. Picking up a major free agent when the team had the worst record in the majors was never part of any plan the team tried to sell us.

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this is absolutely correct. the Lerners see Tex as a rarity that is worth deviating a bit from The Plan for.

that, combined with the atrocity that was last season has kinda moved up the Plan's timetable.

Posted by: MrMadison | December 12, 2008 1:12 PM | Report abuse

>this is absolutely correct. the Lerners see Tex as a rarity that is worth deviating a bit from The Plan for.

that, combined with the atrocity that was last season has kinda moved up the Plan's timetable.<

The atrocity didn't combine with anything - if they don't sign Tex, then they'll probably sign Dunn, and he's not a 'rarity' he just happens to be available RIGHT NOW. All this bs about a plan is just there to make them look smart, like there was some thought put into the whole mess. They're saying, 'trust us, hold your criticism, it'll get better'. They're merely buying time to work out their own shortcomings in management. And it won't get better until they bring in the biggest, baddest sticks they can find.

Posted by: Brue | December 12, 2008 1:19 PM | Report abuse

If I am the Lerners I would scrap my 8yr - $160mm offer and go with 10 yrs - $200mm . Put it to Boston and the Yankees, preempt those guys. I think this guy has the potential to carry the Nats for years. I know the money is stupid but if they want to compete they need to do this.

We will also have to give him an opt out option after year three to neutralize the "loser" argument that is being used against us. Also a no trade clause but Tex is the type of player that we would not want to trade.

Posted by: mjames0 | December 12, 2008 1:24 PM | Report abuse

new post. (points up)

Posted by: MrMadison | December 12, 2008 1:33 PM | Report abuse

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