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Teixeira to Yankees

Mark Teixeira, the free agent that Washington had made the primary target of its offseason, is on the verge of signing with the New York Yankees for a total of eight years and a reported $180 million.

During the frantic negotiations of the last two weeks, the Nationals and Boston Red Sox made the most public campaigns for the free agent slugger, both offering contracts of approximately $180 million. The Yankees' late pursuit continues their stunning offseason of spending. Before this signing, they had already devoted $243.5 million to two free agent pitchers, CC Sabathia and A.J. Burnett.

With Teixeira at $180 million, the Yankees now have on their roster the four highest-paid players in baseball history -- a list that also includes Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter and Sabathia.

This afternoon, various front office members of the Washington Nationals have received the news like everybody else. Team president Stan Kasten was walking through an airport for some holiday travel when a friend messaged him. Now, the Nationals must decide where next to turn in their offseason shopping.

Before its pursuit of Teixeira, team management spoke frequently about a preference for trades -- validated by its Nov. 11 deal with Florida, where the team acquired Scott Olsen and Josh Willingham, still the largest move of its offseason. Washington made an exception for Teixeira because he fit so many of the team's desires. He was young (28), played first base, and grew up in nearby Severna Park. Plus, he had collected at least 30 home runs and 100 RBI for five consecutive seasons. Earlier in the offseason, Washington General Manager Jim Bowden told team owners Mark and Ted Lerner that Teixeira fit the exact profile of what they needed. Washington, for the first time in franchise history, was willing to spend enough to acquire such a piece.

Now, the team returns to lower-profile endeavors. Just because the Nationals lost out on Teixeira doesn't mean the team will rush out to spend those same dollars elsewhere. Perhaps they will explore Adam Dunn as an alternative, but even that is still a part of internal debate. The Nationals have long preached about their plan for building an eventual championship team -- a plan that includes acquiring young players or players just entering their primes. One team source said that the money offered to Teixeira shouldn't be interpreted as a coffer for further offseason spending. At the Winter Meetings, the team said it was not interested in outfielder Manny Ramirez, another Scott Boras client.

According to sources, the Nationals final offer -- between $178 and $184 million, depending on the report -- was not the deciding factor for Teixeira. He simply preferred a team that could win immediately. Washington spoke to Teixeira about the potential in baseball for a quick turnaround -- the Rockies and Rays had done it, after all. Plus, the Nationals have two top-10 picks in the upcoming 2009 draft. Bowden offered the pitch that the Nationals, within two or three years, could develop into a contender. The team's final contract included an out clause for Teixeira after the fourth year.

By Chico Harlan  |  December 23, 2008; 3:40 PM ET
 
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Heyman is the only one i've seen reporting 8/180.

everyone else is saying 8/170.

Posted by: MrMadison | December 23, 2008 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Adam?....

About that job opening here...

Posted by: 1of9000 | December 23, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Dunn, Dunn, dee Dunn, Dunn dee, Dunn, dee Dunn, dee Dunn!!!!

(And now for something completely different)

Posted by: natbisquit | December 23, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

This is bad news for baseball fans everywhere. I really feel sorry for the O's and the other teams in the A.L. East, because they aren't going anywhere for a long, long time. I had been thinking about visiting my friend in NYC and going to a Nats-Yankees game at the new Yankee Stadium next season, but that's out. No way I'm giving them any money. The Yankees are what's wrong with baseball. I applaud the Lerners for their efforts, and I hope Scott Boras gets hit by a bus.

Posted by: BGinVA | December 23, 2008 3:46 PM | Report abuse

FTY.

Posted by: ramgut | December 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The king is dead! Long live the king!
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Dunn, Dunn, dee Dunn, Dunn dee, Dunn, dee Dunn, dee Dunn!!!!

(And now for something completely different)

Posted by: natbisquit | December 23, 2008 3:46 PM

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 3:47 PM | Report abuse

cue Dunn watch....

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

This one is for you, Scott Boras, Boston Red Sox, and, especially, national sports media:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtSc0tFWh7s

But hats off to Cashman, this was an awesomely brilliant bird for everyone in baseball on your part.

Posted by: Section506 | December 23, 2008 3:48 PM | Report abuse

This is what the Yankees are.

Burnett is injury prone, and Sabathia is over weight. Long term contracts with guys like that have a habit of back firing. Bartolo Colon? In three years time we will be looking back at this spending spree thanking God our owners don't sign terrible contracts like the Steinbrenners.

Posted by: soundbloke | December 23, 2008 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Wow, NYY now have the FOUR highest-paid players in baseball on their team. Seems fair.

Posted by: hokieg35 | December 23, 2008 3:43 PM

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Actually, that's the four highest-paid players IN BASEBALL HISTORY on the same team. That's not even... well... sporting.

If it succeeds, if the Yanks win, then MLB becomes, to me, much less interesting. At least I'm not really an O's fan. Ugh.

Posted by: Good2bOK | December 23, 2008 3:50 PM | Report abuse

carrying forward:

A hearty Bronx cheer for the d*mned Yankees. PLLLLPPPP!!!

At least the Lerners showed that they are willing to spend on the right piece. Perhaps they also earned a bit of respect in the baseball community outside of Washington. Wonder how the dealings with Borat, uh, Boras might affect Strasburg negotiations down the road (assuming that he does end up as #1).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 3:52 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtSc0tFWh7s

Posted by: Section506 | December 23, 2008 3:48 PM

Nice!

Posted by: Kev29 | December 23, 2008 3:53 PM | Report abuse

506, good one. the last 30 seconds are a gem.

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Good to see the luxury tax is having its intended effect. What a joke.
I'd love to learn someday how much input Teixeira himself actually had in this decision or if it, like so many others, was orchestrated entirely by that snake Boras.
Congratulations to the Yankees and Teixeira for now sparking an entire country of baseball fans to hate you even more.
As for the Nationals ... what can you say? They tried, but I don't believe the playing field was ever level. Unfortunately, they'll have to cross paths with Boras again in the spring after draftng Strasburg, and that will be no picnic.
The needs remain the same, so I guess it is now time to dangle some of the surplus outfielders and see if anyone will bite.
Happy Holidays all ... if you can stand it.

Posted by: mjhoya12 | December 23, 2008 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the laugh, 506.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

This move is horrible and I'm not saying that as a Nats fan, I'm saying it as a baseball fan.

Posted by: BGinVA | December 23, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

OK, Teixeira is allowed to play well against the O's, but that is about it....

Posted by: kevincostello | December 23, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

So the Yankees payroll is now more than the GNP of most third world countries.

I guess they ain't called the evil empire for nothing folks.

Would be sweet to see them on the outside looking in AGAIN next October.

I guess we have also learned (to some degree) are hypothetically willing to spend some money in support of the plan. My big concern is that, all along, Kasten stated that Tex was the exception, in that he fit in with the plan. Now that we didn't get him, what happens now? Do they get Dunn (better be on the phone now, as the Cubbies are calling) and Hudson? Do we make a trade for a 1B? For a pitcher? For both?
If the FO goes back to signing re-treads, the LAC crowd (I was ready to get off the LAC Bandwagon at the next stop...now, I am not so sure) will have a field day.
While the Tex pursuit was fun to watch (frustrating, but fun), I would still like to see the FO get a front line pitcher and a decent 1B (NJ, I love ya, but you are more brittle than dry kindling wood). Daniel Cabrara is NOT that pitcher.

Posted by: TimDz | December 23, 2008 3:55 PM | Report abuse

The Yankees are what's wrong with baseball. I applaud the Lerners for their efforts, and I hope Scott Boras gets hit by a bus.

Posted by: BGinVA | December 23, 2008 3:46 PM

Before or after he talks to the Nats about Strasberg.

I'm wearing black tommorrow. There is no Santa Claus in DC

Posted by: Berndaddy | December 23, 2008 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Time to have an enforceable salary cap in MLB so that more teams than BOS and NYY can play.

FIRE BUTT Selig!!!!

Posted by: AWWNats | December 23, 2008 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't think this has damaged the Nat's standing with Boras one bit. He's a business man, and a clever one. They behaved like business men.

Posted by: soundbloke | December 23, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Pulling two forward on Dunn's stats last year. Make it so, Mr. Bowden.
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As a side note - some real numbers on Dunn at Cinci, AZ, and elsewhere last year, per baseball-reference:

Cinci - 61 games, 245 PA, 16 HR, OPS .847
AZ - 22 games, 93 PA, 5 HR, OPS .916
Rest - 75 games*, 313 PA*, 19 HR*, OPS .934**

* A plug number
** Away number. Did not recalculate to split before and after trade. Home OPS was .865

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | December 23, 2008 12:44 PM

Dunn - career - OBP / SLG - .381/.518
Kingman - .302 / .478
Pat Burrell - .376 / .485

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | December 23, 2008 12:54 PM
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Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | December 23, 2008 3:58 PM | Report abuse

I believe we should sign Manny instead of Dunn. Despite Dunn's age, he is only a 2 or 3 year stop gap at best until either Marrero comes up or get somebody better. So if our next target is only a short-term fix, why not get Manny? He's a much better overall hitter and I'd say is about a wash defensively with Dunn. We move Willingham to first, play Manny in left, and night in - night out, we get to watch the best pure hitter in all of baseball do his thing, instead of watching Dunn either K or BB. It goes against the 'plan', but so does Dunn. His long-term future is in the Al DHing, so why bother. Let Manny be Manny and maybe our young hitters will learn a thing or two in the process.

Manny will be more expensive, sure, but he is a box-office draw. You can't say that for Dunn.

Man-ny! Man-ny! Man-ny! (say it with me!)

Posted by: sec307 | December 23, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

I do agree that the Lerners made a helluva effort here.

However, it doesn't mean a damn thing if they don't spend some money on someone else. If you were going to spend 180 million on one guy then spend at least 100 million on 2-3 others that can be shoehorned into the plan.

Posted by: Section505203 | December 23, 2008 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Well, I'll only be pissed if we make it to the World Series and lose to a Texeira Game 7 homer!

Seriously, the Lerners showed they can make a run and put some money where their mouths are. The organization has taken some steps since late summer to try and win our faith (back). Keep it up, please.

Posted by: Kev29 | December 23, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else here feel that Boras manipulated the marketin New York's favor by allowing the other bidders to set the market for the Yankees? Too coincidental that the Evil Empire I's offer came after all others were publicized. Cashman just had Agent Orange do all of the spadework while apparently having the right of last refusal.

Posted by: leetee1955 | December 23, 2008 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Why all the Yankees hate?

If they have the money then let them spend it. If these guys bust (a la Giambi and Kevin Brown) then the egg is on them.

I mean if we had that type of payroll capability then nobody would be saying a thing. The Yankees are the classic example of jealous hate. I applaud Brian Cashman - he's put together a heckuva squad and I hope they can succeed.

Since when did America's pasttime turn communist?

Short of a salary cap, this is the economics of the game and so be it. Like I said earlier, if the Yanks fail then it's all on them.

Posted by: Corey42 | December 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

No, no, no. Please, please, please do NOT sign Manny Ramirez. Don't even entertain the idea. He is NOT what we need AT ALL.

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Can't blame the Yanks for this, they are just playing by the rules, doing what they think is best and necessary to win and generate revenue (remember they have a lot of $2,500/game seats to sell).

We can blame Bud and baseball however. This is really awful for baseball. Things need to be fixed, but that won't happen with Bud in place, if ever.

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | December 23, 2008 4:02 PM | Report abuse

#Corey42

Don't think it's so much Yankee hate as it is everyone else had to show their cards or fold while Boras was dealing off the bottom of the deck to the Yanks.

Posted by: leetee1955 | December 23, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Ultimately, I'd like to see what the Nats offered.

Posted by: jctichen | December 23, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

Again, whoever thought the Nationals were going to sign Teixeira were under a serious delusion.

Boras used the Nationals best offer as the measuring stick for the Yankees after the Angels and Red Sox bowed out.

The Nationals still don't have a real plan.

This isn't the NBA where one player changes the fortunes of the franchise overnight.

The Nationals need to sign 3-4 players this offseason (beyond the bargain shopping for Cabrera) to signficantly upgrade their talent on the parent club and give players like Marrero, Willems, Detwiler, Smoker, Burgess, etc. time to develop.

Posted by: leopard09 | December 23, 2008 4:04 PM | Report abuse

*Sigh* The Dunn watch doesn't seem to he same allure.

Posted by: leetee1955 | December 23, 2008 4:05 PM | Report abuse

*Sigh* The Dunn watch doesn't seem to have the same allure. What will Chico blog about now?

Posted by: leetee1955 | December 23, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Well, now Teixeira is just another highly paid Yankee, but won't ever be THE guy, like Cal Ripkin, which he would have been for the Nats or the Os - he'll find out just like A-Rod that that slot in New York is taken by Derek Jeter.

I went on the Yankees website and you all will be amused to know that their fan base has voted Aaron Boone's walkoff home run against the Red Sox as the greatest moment ever in Yankee Stadium history - even surpassed Lou Gehrig's farewell. I expect that Aaron Boone is also [AB] amused at this.

Posted by: Traveler8 | December 23, 2008 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, sadly, this is yet another example of why Boras attracts all the best baseball players as clients - he raised Tex's profile for weeks before landing him to the highest AAV contract on the sport's biggest stage, playing for a team that is going to go into March as the favorite to win in October.

Meanwhile, the Yankees are using their newfound revenue streams and the deadweight coming off the books to reload their team to take on the Rays and Sox.

I'd hope that the Nats brass are currently calling not about Dunn, but calling with a willingness to match the AAV. In for 170, in for 184, I say (ain't it easy when it's not your money?)

Don't hate the player (or his agent)...hate the game.

Posted by: Highway295Revisited | December 23, 2008 4:08 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE don't put out this " don't blame the Yankee's" crap... Nobody here wants to hear that right now. Even if you're right, "the Yankee's get this the Yankee's get that" gets old after a while. I'd be the first to admit it hasn't done them a damn bit of good in the last 10 years or so, but come on just stop it all ready or go to a Yankee's blog and sing praises there. Let's speculate on what the Nats do now. Tex made his bed I'll leave it at that.

Posted by: Berndaddy | December 23, 2008 4:09 PM | Report abuse

So, unless we can find a blockbuster trade, there's no 1st tier players left, and never appeared to be any 2nd tier players.

Gotta hand it to the Lerners for entering the fray like big dogs. But what can they do now to put fans in the seats? Besides winning?

No to Manny!

Posted by: AWWNats | December 23, 2008 4:10 PM | Report abuse

But I LIKE bashing the Damn Yankees. What else are they good for?

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Today marks a good day for me as a sane, realistic Nats fan. Finally, we can stop wasting time, newpaper space, blog space and emotion hoping for something that was never going to happen.

Lets now do what we need to do: sign Dunn, have him play 1B when spring09 comes around and Young weighs 350lbs and Johnson breaks a toenail and is out til the all star break.

Next, beg Redding to come back and have a respectable rotation of Lannan, Redding, Olsen, Cabrera and fill-in-the-blank spring training free for all for the 5th starter spot among Hill, Bergmann, Balester, JZimmerman, Martis, Estrada, Mock and the kitchen sink.

Once JZimmerman wins the 5th starter, make Martis, Estrada and Mock middle relievers, cut Hill since he's this year's version of Patterson (aka, a talented pitcher who just can't get healthy but keeps getting contracts on the off chance he does), and send the rest back to AAA.

Posted by: tboss | December 23, 2008 4:11 PM | Report abuse

This isn't the NBA where one player changes the fortunes of the franchise overnight.

Posted by: leopard09 | December 23, 2008 4:04 PM

This is/was clearly a battle for public opinion, not just trying to get a first basemen. The organization is trying to get rid of some of the poisonous fog that hovered over the park last summer. Showing that they're not a joke in the FA market is part of that. Call it the "emergency-don't lose this city forever" plan.

Posted by: Kev29 | December 23, 2008 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the Nats made a couple of signings. Nothing huge.

Nationals Sign Corey Patterson, Jorge Sosa
By Tim Dierkes [December 23 at 2:54pm CST]
According to Troy E. Renck of the Denver Post, the Nationals signed Corey Patterson and Jorge Sosa to minor league deals.

Posted by: FloresFan | December 23, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

great, I hope he gets a degenerative injury and never takes the field again, enjoy your money you soulless infidel, the yankees are the devil

Posted by: bford1kb | December 23, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Manny staying productive here is about as likely as Nick staying healthy.

I can see Manny highlights on SportsCenter.

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Very bad day for Baseball, as a fan of the game for close to 40 years this is by far the biggest insult to all of the folks who support thier teams, only to be reminded over and over that unless your uniform has an NY, B, C, or LA you just don't count!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | December 23, 2008 4:14 PM | Report abuse

great post. laughing here.

Lets now do what we need to do: sign Dunn, have him play 1B when spring09 comes around and Young weighs 350lbs and Johnson breaks a toenail and is out til the all star break.
Posted by: tboss | December 23, 2008 4:11 PM

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Kind of ridiculous to get mad at the Yankees, they did exactly what they should have done. Their payroll is STILL lower than it was last year. It just looks crazy because they freed up so much room this year. Burnett and CC to me are still quite risky, I don't think they should have signed both.

Meanwhile, while I would have been excited if the Nats got him, I was worried because even if all their young pitching pans out, it won't be ready for prime time for 2 or 3 years. By then Teixeira would be on the decline, why not sign a superstar then, or closer to then?

http://nationalsreview.wordpress.com

Posted by: CharlieF | December 23, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Well at least Tex can't wear 23 in NY. Good ol' Don Mattingly (one of the most respectable Yankees of all time)

What a shame for baseball.


Dunn - as Boswell put it, "the second coming of Frank Howard". Boswell also said no chance to the Man.

Posted by: OptimisticSkin | December 23, 2008 4:16 PM | Report abuse

ya'll are hilarious. This was great too. Top billing for post of the day
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great, I hope he gets a degenerative injury and never takes the field again, enjoy your money you soulless infidel, the yankees are the devil

Posted by: bford1kb | December 23, 2008 4:13 PM

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Well at least we didn't engage in a long drawn-out bidding war, driving up his value only to lose him to a major market team.

Posted by: BobLHead | December 23, 2008 4:17 PM | Report abuse

The Other Tex

Majewski to Phils
http://tinyurl.com/9b5llt

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 4:18 PM | Report abuse

MLB is a joke until a meaningful salary cap (like the NFL)is in place. Baseball has become more entertainment than sport. It has become David (Pirates, Nationals, Orioles, Brewers, As) versus Goliath (Yankess, Red Sox, Braves, Angels, Mets).

Now and then one of the bottom feeders will make it through to the playoffs but very rarely does that happen.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 23, 2008 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Agree with TippyCanoe. Hate the NY, C, B, LA axis of evil. They may not win it all every year, but what are the odds of seeing a KC or a P (as in Pirates) in the post-season? TB advanced to the World Series only after having been the worst franchise in baseball for a decade.

I do desperately wonder if Teixiera signed for less than the Nats were offering.

Posted by: ArlingtonNatsFan | December 23, 2008 4:20 PM | Report abuse

While I agree with you, it doesn't matter for the Yankees as they can easily drop a player and buy another great player. Whereas a team like the Nationals, without the Yankees money, really does live and die with long term contracts and players not working out.
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This is what the Yankees are.

Burnett is injury prone, and Sabathia is over weight. Long term contracts with guys like that have a habit of back firing. Bartolo Colon? In three years time we will be looking back at this spending spree thanking God our owners don't sign terrible contracts like the Steinbrenners.

Posted by: soundbloke | December 23, 2008 3:49 PM

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 23, 2008 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Dude. Nice thought but we could offer 10 years at $200M right now and there's no way Teixeira or Boras would come back and say, "sorry folks. changed our minds about the Yankees and going with the Nationals instead."

Besides, some reports show the Nats DID offer more than the Yankees, which would be the ultimate insult if true.
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I'd hope that the Nats brass are currently calling not about Dunn, but calling with a willingness to match the AAV. In for 170, in for 184, I say (ain't it easy when it's not your money?)


Posted by: Highway295Revisited | December 23, 2008 4:08 PM

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

fearturtle - can you say "Rays"?

Posted by: OptimisticSkin | December 23, 2008 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Name three things the Nats and Yankees have in common:

1) Neither made the playoffs last year.
2) Both were criticized heavily for their puruit of Mark Teixeira.
3) Both have had burdonsome television contracts.

OK, that last one is a little misleading as the Yankees own their own network and make more money from television in one broadcast than the Nationals in one month. Still the Yankees were losers last year and are far from locks to win this year. Go Rays!!!

Posted by: natbisquit | December 23, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

The big money teams use teams like the Nationals as bait. They wait to hear what these teams offer and then jack up the price to get the player.

You can't blame teams like the Yankees as they are not breaking any rules.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 23, 2008 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Hoo-boy.
*sigh*
Seriously?
The 4 highest players in history?
ON ONE TEAM?!?!? screw those guys.

Turning our attentions now ...
Mr. Hudson, sir? Please? Washington?

Posted by: TheSpaldingMachine | December 23, 2008 4:24 PM | Report abuse

A NOTE TO JIM BOWDEN: Sign Milton Bradley NOW!!! Adam Dunn is a strikeout waiting to happen. Don't blow this one, Bradley is a hitter with better than average power and he is a player, don't sign another one of Cincinatti's washed up overated players.

Posted by: dargregmag | December 23, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Corey Patterson?? Srsly? What, Nook Logan never played for the Reds, is that it?

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Small or low paying markets make it to the playoffs every season. Heck, they make it to the LCS and World Series more than the Yankees have in the past 5 years (Rays, Indians, A's, Rockies).

Not an EXCUSE to be thrifty, but money is not everything.

Posted by: Kev29 | December 23, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

I guess it's a Dunn deal?

Posted by: fischy | December 23, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, don't hate on Boras. He was only doing his job. Hate on MLB and the player's union for not hammering out a meaningful salary cap.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 23, 2008 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Corey Patterson? Ick. Not a good consolation prize.

Has Jorge Sosa served his entire 50-game suspension for amphetamines?

Let's fill the major league team now. Syracuse will be just fine.

Posted by: kevincostello | December 23, 2008 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Here is some important insight on the Yankees offer versus the Nats or Orioles offer. Teixeira will make millions more in New York in personal and team marketing opportunities than his contract offers. Ask Derek Jeter and AROD. The cross marketing opportunities are huge for NYC stars. The reason the Nats had to outbid the Yankees/Red Sox to sign Teixeira had much more to do with the peripheral marketing issues than the indignity of playing for a losing team. It would be interesting to know how many millions Jeter has made above and beyond his Yankee contract by just showing his face in NYC advertising.

Posted by: natbisquit | December 23, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081223&content_id=3726757&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

How about Bernie Williams in Center Field for DC?

BTW -- Yankees Suck!

Posted by: fischy | December 23, 2008 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Chico added some updates in case you're hitting refresh down here and missed it.
;)

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Corey Patterson?

Bowden is OBSESSED with formerly touted players who are completely washed up! Seriously, what is wrong with him!

Looks like we're back to where we started before this Tex fiasco. Signing crappy players to one year deals. Flinging sh*t at the wall and seeing what sticks. This PLAN seems more and more like the Pirates plan, or any other crappy team. Sign BS loser players until the farm system develops, only, get this, it never does.

Posted by: jctichen | December 23, 2008 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, don't hate on Boras. He was only doing his job.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 23, 2008 4:27 PM
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Suggest holding your hate until negotiations for Stephen Strasburg begin, who is represented by Mr. Boras.

Posted by: joemktg1 | December 23, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Say it with me NO MANNY NO MANNY. Talk about a short term player on a team looking long term.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 23, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

@natbisquit -- I think he'd have more promotional opportunities -- especially long-term -- if Tex came to DC, where he'd be really special. In NY, he's probably 4th banana right now, behind Jeter, A-Rod, and C.C, -- and that's not even bringin in the Mets' players.

But, that's purely speculative.

Posted by: fischy | December 23, 2008 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Folks, Patterson was a MINOR league deal. What is the harm in that?

Posted by: Section505203 | December 23, 2008 4:35 PM | Report abuse

>I believe we should sign Manny instead of Dunn.

Well, that's one bit of good news that Tex signed with the Yanks instead of the Sox.

ESPN News had a quote from an Angels official: 'Man-ny will not be an Angel next year.' FWIW. Oh Man-ny you available bad-ass

Posted by: Brue | December 23, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Now the Nats don't have an excuse not to re-up Ryan Zimmerman. Assuming he wants to come back.

Posted by: dan37 | December 23, 2008 4:36 PM | Report abuse

I can say Rays but like my post said now and then a team rises to the top. But it is usually the big money teams that get the wins.

Posted by: fearturtle44 | December 23, 2008 4:38 PM | Report abuse

Nick Swisher anyone? He's now on the bench for the Yankees....

Posted by: jfromPG | December 23, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

Despite having guaranteed $430M in salary thus far this offseason, I'm not really sure the Yankees are totally bad for baseball. Because time and time again teams have proven that money is not the only factor at play (see Beane, Billy and his Moneyball Oakland A's).

Yes the Yankees had $209M payroll, but they were only SEVENTH in median payroll last year. A bunch of guys making $15M+ plus a bunch of guys at the MLB minimum because they were so top heavy. Unsurprisingly they failed to make the playoffs.

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/salaries/default.aspx

Based on total payroll, the top three teams in 2008 didn't even make the playoffs (Yankees, Mets and Tigers). Your 8 playoff teams were 4,5,6,7,8,12,15,29 ranked, your world series 12th versus 29th and the Phillies at #12 winners. The phillies were 12th despite most of their regulars and rotation being home grown.

Perhaps some of you will say "well 5 of the top 8 made the playoffs so that proves the rule." Perhaps so. but when the 29th ranked team in terms of salary wins the AL with 6 teams over $100M in payroll AND significantly improves itself next season by virtue of Price replacing Jackson in the rotation, I say player development wins again.

The Yankees might very well dominate again next year (probably at the expense of Boston this time, since Boston has a massive hole in its lineup now after losing out on Teixeira and with Ortiz's injury looking ominous), but in 3 years time when they again have 5-6 guys on massive contracts in their late 30s ... they'll go through 2008 again.

todd

Posted by: tboss | December 23, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

46, 40, 40, 40, 40 .....

Yep, Dunn is washed up. No way he can consistently deliver 40 homeruns every year. Oh, and before you go to the - 'it must have been the park' agrument, look it up. He has always hit as well on the road as he has at home. And yes while he strikes out alot he also led the league in walks, and consistently knocks in runs. Plus he's lefthanded and can play 1B. I like Bradley too, but don't fall under any delusion that Dunn is not a very productive and in his prime hitter. He is productive, consistant, and will likely play for another 5-10 years at a high level.

46, 40, 40, 40, 40 are the number of HRs he has put up in each of the last 5 years.

Posted by: natbisquit | December 23, 2008 4:40 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you, CE.

If rooting for the Yankees is like rooting for U.S. Steel; rooting against them is like, uh, I don't know, I need to work on that one.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 4:41 PM | Report abuse

In itself, none really, but it means they're still signing has-beens, never-wases, and shot-in-the-dark projects, as long as they were once Redlegs.

It's like an alcoholic having a beer -- it's not the one that's the problem, it's the other six that came before it.

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Folks, Patterson was a MINOR league deal. What is the harm in that?

Posted by: Section505203 | December 23, 2008 4:35 PM

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 4:43 PM | Report abuse

It appears the Nats have yet again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory...

But what the heck, the "Plan" is still in place (doesn't matter that nobody worth their salt wants to sign with the Nats) and there are still plenty of cheap retreads available.

Maybe Chico Lerner-Harlan can extol many of his daddy's other virtues as the Nats get ready to embark on another disastrous season...

Dare we expect back to back 100-loss seasons? It could happen. Scary.

Posted by: randy_boyd | December 23, 2008 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Yankee fans know that free agent signings mean nothing: it's about performing under the close scrutiny of the fans and the media. Many free agent corpses along the Major Deegan (mixed in with other corpses).

The huge new stadium (with the sweetheart deal with NYC) and the YES network give them tremendous power, but please bear in mind that small market teams continue to compete very effectively with the right management team and a smart plan, e.g., Twins.

Kudos to Nats ownership and management on their attempt, and thanks for making Hot Stove quasi-interesting. They showed themselves well, and it was a nice prelude to future negotiations with Mr. Boras.

Posted by: joemktg1 | December 23, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Also, Just Say No to Manny.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

There needs to be a third team in NYC. There were three teams in NYC in the fifties and they were always near the top--all of them. So what idiot thought up this notion of having only two NYC teams that have the money--if not the brains--to dominate the game. And Teixeira is a pimp. All that hometown bs he trotted out to drive up the price. What a phoney. The price was the same if not better in DC and he goes to NYC. I hope the fans in the Big Apple eat him for breakfast, lunch and dinner.

Posted by: Juliasdad | December 23, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

The thing you have to understand about hte NY cross marketing opportunities is the size of the local media market there and the distribution of advertising. A single ad campaign reaches more eyeballs in NYC than would ever be possible in the DC market. DC's market is not small, but NYC market is huge. The Yankees brand further supercharges the personal marketing opportunties. He would absolutley make more money there than anywhere else, including LA and Boston. Tex would have done better hear than other Nats have done, but not even Zimmerman is getting any advertising dollars here. Not a sniff. Nothing.

Posted by: natbisquit | December 23, 2008 4:47 PM | Report abuse

There's no comparison, fischy. The money is in New York and L.A.

Think about Giambi at first base. He's good for 25-30 taters, hits in the clutch, has become adequate in the field, and takes his medicine.

Posted by: ajlerner1 | December 23, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

See, this is what I mean about pointless negativity. "The jaws of victory"??
I thought the GHF-folks were "delusional" for thinking the Nats could ever sign him??
Which is it?
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It appears the Nats have yet again snatched defeat from the jaws of victory...

Posted by: randy_boyd | December 23, 2008 4:44 PM

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 4:50 PM | Report abuse

although I'm pretty sure he's changed prescriptions sometime in the last few years, if you catch my drift and I think you do...

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Think about Giambi at first base. He's good for 25-30 taters, hits in the clutch, has become adequate in the field, and takes his medicine.

Posted by: ajlerner1 | December 23, 2008 4:50 PM

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

re: 40 home runs. Didn't our home run LEADER hit something like 14 home runs? Puh-lease. We could use a *25*-homer guy for crying out loud. The bar is still a little low, folks.

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 4:52 PM | Report abuse

CEvansJr. Chuck, is that you?

Posted by: bitner | December 23, 2008 4:53 PM | Report abuse

LOL at your dinger reality check, NatsNut.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 4:54 PM | Report abuse

I am not on the Nats payroll, nor do I drink the "lets-make-the-Lerner's-richer" kool-aid... and for the record, my opinion is as good as yours.

Merry Christmas.

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See, this is what I mean about pointless negativity. "The jaws of victory"??
I thought the GHF-folks were "delusional" for thinking the Nats could ever sign him??
Which is it?

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 4:50 PM

Posted by: randy_boyd | December 23, 2008 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Swisher, hmmm...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse


Don't hate the Yankees?

I was born in a Washington D.C. hospital. A gene was planted at birth. I have no choice but to hate the Yankees. There is a reason that a whole musical was named "Damn Yankees". It's so everyone else can enjoy hating them as much as we do. With the signing of Teixeira the last holdouts on the planet should be swaying to our side now.

Posted by: driley | December 23, 2008 4:57 PM | Report abuse

The Nats continue to lose in free agent signings and draft signings. They claim its part of the "plan". The only plan I can see is to continue to lose in the free agent market, in the draft, and on the field while raking in their guaranteed TV money (and increasing stake in MASN).

I hope the Lerners prove me wrong but, for now, I'll put them in the same category as Calvin Griffith and Bob Short.

Posted by: davep1 | December 23, 2008 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Why are people wasting time hating the yankees. They have been doing this for the last 8 years and havent produced a championship from it. From Giambi, to A-Rod, to Sheffield they have spent the money, become the front runner to win everything and won nothing. The last time the Yankees won a championship is when the had a team that was built not bought.

Posted by: ged0386 | December 23, 2008 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Depends--who owes the other one money?
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CEvansJr. Chuck, is that you?

Posted by: bitner | December 23, 2008 4:53 PM

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Let's all take a deep breath.

Spending money just to make the team more "entertaining" i.e. - signing Manny - is not the way to go. I could see MAYBE signing Dunn, but he's really just a DH. If he's the Nats 1B, we should be prepared for no range, no picks of bad throws, and a stone-handed attempt at fielding a ground ball once a week. The only thing in the back of my head is that they so desperately need a LH power hitter in the middle of the line up. That's all that gives me pause.

The next question is whether they can figure out another trade to fill this hole. The place where it's time to start evaluating JimBo and company is on whether these players they've drafted over the past three years are attractive to anyone. Looking at their top 20 prospects, I'm not so sure. Yeah, there are some decent pitching prospects - no #1s though. As far as hitters go, I don't see one that would get anyone excited. When I say that, I mean a guy who's got a shot to be #3 or #4 hitter on a 1st place team.

#4

Posted by: db423 | December 23, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

DANG IT!! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHH stupid yankees

Posted by: rachel216 | December 23, 2008 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Can we obtain the Yankees 1B?

Anyway, I'm glad I'm now a Nats fan (formerly O's) because I wouldn't want to be in the AL East.

Posted by: charley42 | December 23, 2008 5:12 PM | Report abuse

They ought to change the name of the sport to buyball, and just have six teams. Those with the highest payrolls. Whatever happened to tradition? Right. A new day and age, and I'm just an old fart. Well, I suppose that's true, but it sure seems like there's a lot missing from the game anymore.

Posted by: coastallp74 | December 23, 2008 5:13 PM | Report abuse

1) interesting updates re: opt out clause and Bowden's sales pitch

2) we're darn near 100 comments already

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

The Nationals need to sign 3-4 players this offseason (beyond the bargain shopping for Cabrera) to signficantly upgrade their talent on the parent club and give players like Marrero, Willems, Detwiler, Smoker, Burgess, etc. time to develop.

Posted by: leopard09 | December 23, 2008 4:04 PM

Who? Give me names. Milton Bradley? In the same locker room as Elijah?

Dunn? Burrell? Short enough term and at a discount OK.

Hudson? Fills a need right now.

Derek Lowe? Underrated pitcher but will not be part of the first good Nats team.

Not landing Tex means the Nats CAN get in the bidding in 2010 for Joe Mauer who will be a 27 year old former MVP at a premium defensive position.

Posted by: traderkirk | December 23, 2008 5:14 PM | Report abuse

"According to sources, the Nationals final offer -- between $178 and $184 million, depending on the report -- was not the deciding factor for Teixeira. He simply preferred a team that could win immediately."

I hope the Nats turn it around next season just like the Rays did and then Teixeira will be like, "i should have signed with the Nats!"

Posted by: rachel216 | December 23, 2008 5:16 PM | Report abuse

and move him to first? We already got a catcher.
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Not landing Tex means the Nats CAN get in the bidding in 2010 for Joe Mauer who will be a 27 year old former MVP at a premium defensive position.

Posted by: traderkirk | December 23, 2008 5:14 PM

Posted by: CEvansJr | December 23, 2008 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I dont know about you guys but IF we ever play the YANKS at home i will BOOOOOOOOO the hell out of TEX I will get seats right next to the Yankees dug out and just keep talkin trash to him.I also hope he gets hurt ever season and turns in to the next Nick Johnson I mean I hope nothing but the WORST for him I hope he averages under 10 homers a year plus I hope he chokes big dick in the playoffs. Im done venting. But lets trade for Swisher

Posted by: j-dog1 | December 23, 2008 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps tk meant Justin Morneau?

Thanks for the heads up on the update, NatsNut. I'd not seen it.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 5:21 PM | Report abuse


Everyone, welcome back to the real world.

So, how many of last year's outfielders (and who) will be starting in Syracuse this April?

Posted by: tomfoc31 | December 23, 2008 5:27 PM | Report abuse

To the person who posted that the Yankees were merely 7th in median salary, I think median salary is an inappropriate statistic when you have the four highest salaries in the history of baseball on one side of that median.

Posted by: hokieg35 | December 23, 2008 5:30 PM | Report abuse

From mlb trade rumors:

"Teixeira told the Yankees he preferred them all along, after the Angels and Red Sox backed off."

Hmph.

Posted by: NatsNut | December 23, 2008 5:39 PM | Report abuse

The Yankees new infield alone would be the 18th-highest payroll in the majors.

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To the person who posted that the Yankees were merely 7th in median salary, I think median salary is an inappropriate statistic when you have the four highest salaries in the history of baseball on one side of that median.

Posted by: hokieg35 | December 23, 2008 5:30 PM

Posted by: Scott_in_Shaw | December 23, 2008 5:42 PM | Report abuse

June 16-18th.

If you boo at your TV, it still counts.

Posted by: JohninMpls | December 23, 2008 5:56 PM | Report abuse

Oh well - it would have been nice...

The teams' needs haven't changed, just the #1 target is no longer on the market; The Nats' still need a #1SP, a LH power bat & stability at 1B.
>#1SP's tend to be expensive, but there are a few left on the FA market (Lowe, Sheets, R. Johnson) & a few more that could be available via trade (Oswalt, Bueherle, Peavy, Haren, et al).
>LH-power hitters are a little thin right now on the FA market (Dunn, Giambi, Abreu, ??); trades, possible, but usually VERY costly in terms of prospects.
>Depth at 1B would come down to some of the usual suspects (Dunn, Giambi) or a RH hitter like Millar or Mienkewicz as a backfill until aomeone like Whitney, Rheinhart, or Marrero are ready for "the Show".

Posted by: BinM | December 23, 2008 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Chickens coming home to roost...

Lerner has been a tightwad all along. Why should anyone take him seriously AND BET THEIR CAREER that's he's changed? Nats got what they deserved -- to be pwned.

Posted by: gbooksdc | December 23, 2008 5:58 PM | Report abuse

davep1:

You need to check your history. Neither the Griffith family nor Bob Short every made even an offer similiar to the attempt by the Lerners to sign Tex. They had neither the funds nor the desire to really compete.

Posted by: spnats1 | December 23, 2008 6:07 PM | Report abuse

"Why all the Yankees hate?

If they have the money then let them spend it"

Um the just asked the city for nearly 300 million dollars in tax free bonds. They then go spend 423 million in players salaries. It appears they shouldn't be coming to the tax payers to fund their new digs. Yes this is a problem.

Posted by: JDB1 | December 23, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

By the way, the only way the Nats get Teixeira over the Yanks is to make a PRE-EMPTIVE bid. They knew (or should have known) that going in. They're the NATS, in Sid Thrift's immortal words, they're bidding with Confederate money. So if they didn't have the cojones to do that, they KNEW he wasn't coming here. If $180 MM made sense given THEIR revenue stream, it d@mn sure made sense for the Red Sox and Yanks given THEIR revenue stream.

And for all you people crying, welcome to free-market competition. That is exactly what is RIGHT with baseball. Step up, man up, or consign yourself to fighting it out with the Pirates and Marlins.

And as for The Plan -- if this was part of it, it's time to go back to the drawing board. Adam Dunn? Don't make me laugh. Haven't the Reds finished last every year with this guy? Not to mention, his away numbers give you pause, and his post-July splits rule out ANY would-be contender bidding for this oaf. So I guess he's destined for the Nats or O's...

Posted by: gbooksdc | December 23, 2008 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Regarding Swisher - The NYY will just shift him to CF, with Damon & Nady on the flanks. The Nationals' should put out a feeler, but I'd be suprised if anything came of it.

Posted by: BinM | December 23, 2008 6:10 PM | Report abuse

My prediction: The Yankees still don't win the World Series and at least one of these guys gets injured...

Posted by: bromisky | December 23, 2008 6:11 PM | Report abuse

>Nick Swisher anyone? He's now on the bench for the Yankees....

Got way too many holes in his swing. Plus he's a little man. I don't trust small people. They always seem to have a distorted sense of their place in the world.

Let there be Man-ny or let there be death you spontaneous combustion hittin hot animal machine

Posted by: Brue | December 23, 2008 6:12 PM | Report abuse

The thing I don't get. Will never get. Is what pleasure, honor, prestige does a player or fan get being on a winning team when the team has been totally bought? If the Yanks win, so what? The Rays can be proud and their fans, but the Yankees or Teixiera? Give me a break.
And he needs more endorsements to up his income? Yeah, right. No greed there.
Boras is what he is and obviously is proud of it. Yankees spend money-it appears they're not smart enough to do anything else. When did they win last?
But in the end it's the Teixieras' of the world that bother me most. They enable it all to happen.
Jeeves

Posted by: jcampbell1 | December 23, 2008 6:14 PM | Report abuse

And as for Swisher -- Kenny Williams is one of the savviest GMs in baseball (along with Larry Beinfest of the Marlins -- you never hear Jim Bowden and savvy in the same sentence) so if HE dumped Swisher, Swisher is eminently dumpable (not to mention, he's already been dumped by Billy Beane, also recognized as a "smart" GM -- you don't hear Jim Bowden and smart in the same sentence, either). Which is to say, he's nobody's solution. You won't get to be an above-average team with below-average players.

Posted by: gbooksdc | December 23, 2008 6:15 PM | Report abuse

You knew Teixiera was going to one of the evil empires -- he simply chose the original rather than the New England version.

Nice effort by the Nats, but they currently have as much chance of signing a free agent as Iowa State has of competing for a national football championship.

Get rid of Bowden, and while we're at it dump Clint and "Sweet Caroline," too.

Posted by: VPaterno | December 23, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Here's the key sentence: "This afternoon, various front office members of the Washington Nationals have received the news like everybody else." Like everybody else. Teixeira and Boras didn't respect the Nats' bid enough to give them the couresy of a personal call. THAT is the best indicator of where the Nats rate in the baseball world.

Brewers East. Thanks Bud.

Posted by: gbooksdc | December 23, 2008 6:19 PM | Report abuse

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to buy some beer and play some baseball on the ol' PS2 while wearing my Nick Johnson jersey.

Happy Tuesday, NJ!

Posted by: JohninMpls | December 23, 2008 6:26 PM | Report abuse

The Yankees are bad for baseball, but that's why they're good for baseball. Sports are much more interesting when you have someone to hate. When you have someone to hate, it makes it that much more excellent when they get beat. Just think back to how you feel when Duke or UNC lose basketball games.

Instead of signing players, let's sign strength coaches and a decent bullpen. We keep our starters in longer and we don't blow games in the late innings.

Posted by: HB_86 | December 23, 2008 6:27 PM | Report abuse

I think this says more about Teixeira than it does about the Nats. I was hoping we'd sign him, but I was wondering if he was willing to be the leader both on and off the field this team needs. I suspect he wasn't comfortable assuming that role in Washington. In NY, albeit he will be playing on the brighest stage, I suspect Arod, Jeter, and CC will be under more pressure to deliver.

Posted by: psubman | December 23, 2008 6:32 PM | Report abuse

@HB: The Nationals have already made some changes regarding medical staff / trainers, I believe.
The bullpen isn't necessarily the issue here - If a teams SP's can deliver 5-6+ innings on a consistent basis, there is less 'wear-n-tear' on the bullpen over the season; strenghten the starting staff & use the bullpen based on situation.

Posted by: BinM | December 23, 2008 6:49 PM | Report abuse

@psub: I see this as totally about Boras, not Teixeira. I've stated this before, but Boras wants his clients in big-market, high-visibility locations (NY, LA, CHI, BOS). Once it seemed that BOS had the high-bid (that was under his projected AAV for his client), he played the NYY against the high-bidder.
IMO, that's why the Sawx & the LAA made public their respective withdrawals from further bidding.

Posted by: BinM | December 23, 2008 6:57 PM | Report abuse

I'm aware that our Tex loss today is the big story. But did Nat's Journal even mention that Aaron Boone signed with the Astros on Friday? Not a huge loss for us, but the man was a member of the team last season, and played some meaningful innings.

Posted by: BShea82 | December 23, 2008 7:22 PM | Report abuse

There's only one Free Agent left who comes close to matching Texiera as far as abilities and meeting a Nats need. That is Ben Sheets. He's talented and available for a discount. While he has, rightfully, the injured label on him, he threw more innings last year than any Nats pitcher. He also has better career stats than Burnett and unlike Burnett, has not had TJ surgery.

It would take creativity to sign him but given his age, he could be the top guy in a rotation built around Lannan, Zimmermann and Strasburg. I don't think the Yanks, Sawx, Cubs, Angels or Mets are after him. Maybe the Mets will be but they seem to want Lowe. We'd be bidding against perhaps the Dodgers, Phillies, Brewers.

Like I said, he could be available and Lord knows he's talented. He started the All-Star game this past season.

Posted by: Section314 | December 23, 2008 7:28 PM | Report abuse

As a Nats fan I am appalled but as a lifelong Orioles hater I think his signing with the Yankees is hilarious.

Right now I would love to see the slack- jawed and stunned looks on the faces of all the illiterate drunks up in Dundalk and Essex who were convinced, absolutely convinced, that Tex would sign with "Balmer, hon" since he's such a loyal "Severna Park guy".

Uh huh. Sucks to be a Baltimoron right about now.

Posted by: brian1va1 | December 23, 2008 7:34 PM | Report abuse

But, hey, all the Baltimore fans will get their wish of seeing Tex at first base on Opening Day 2009 at Camden Yards. Oh wait...the stadium will probably be full of Yankee fans. Never mind...

Posted by: BGinVA | December 23, 2008 7:45 PM | Report abuse

@314 - Agreed, but with the same caveat (oft-injured). Maybe a 2-yr+,$26M+ offer (+20% over prior)?
He would stabilise the top of the staff, and buy time for the pups to grow.

Posted by: BinM | December 23, 2008 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Hey all you Dunn fans--- Hope you're ready for an old-time breakfast cereal: Special K. You're just appreciative for all those fine Reds that Bowden has dished up. Have yourself another. Meanwhile, my crystal ball says Nick Johnson is ready for a special year. Question is where will he call home? Probably where he's valued.

Posted by: JoeTink | December 23, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

BShea, not to worry, AB did get hat tips from some posters a few threads back.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 7:47 PM | Report abuse

JiM, I don't drink (probably a good thing on days like this). I will, however, devour a number of frosted and sprinkled Christmas cookies and an episode of House.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | December 23, 2008 7:49 PM | Report abuse

@brian1va1: Just curious, why so much hate for the O's? What team did you support before jumping to the local 9?

Posted by: BinM | December 23, 2008 7:51 PM | Report abuse

@JoeTInk: A number of the regulars at NJ are well aware of Dunn's weaknesses. Slick would be the answer to an un-asked question (who plays 1B?), if he could be counted on for 120+GP. Sadly, the Nationals haven't been able to count on even that.
He can be very good, when healthy - He's just hurt more often then not.

Posted by: BinM | December 23, 2008 8:19 PM | Report abuse

I know all the regulars are depressed, but beep-beep - new post.

Posted by: BinM | December 23, 2008 8:41 PM | Report abuse

1. All payroll above 125 mil is taxxed dollar for dollar to mlb up to 175 mil.

2. No payroll allowed above 175 mil.

3. No team allowed a payroll below 75mil.

The Yankees are nothing more than a bleeding soar who are held in contempt without respect from anyone that is not a new yorker.

Posted by: unc1dmo | December 23, 2008 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I would say I hope that Sabathia and Tex get Pavanoed, but they would just go out and get Peavy and Pujols to replace them anyways. A sad, sad day for baseball. As an Orioles fan, we come in as one of 15-20 teams every season that simply know we cannot compete for a World Series no matter what we do.

The only bright side is that it will be that much funnier when the Yankees lose in the ALDS to the Detroit Tigers. On the flip side, that might be the only baseball game I bother to watch all year.

Posted by: J-Wiz | December 23, 2008 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Used! Used! Used! The Nats were used by Boras and Teixiera to jack up the going price to the Yankees. In fact, both teams were used but the Yankees are just too filthy rich and arrogant to know any better. I am glad the Nats did not have to waste that amount of money on just one player and now they can concentrate on building the correct way, which is the draft, farm system and prudent free agents. Besides, Teixiera is not really a "local" product for DC. He is more of a "local" product for Baltimore. Yet, I am more proud that the Lerners actually offered more money any way than that cheap wad that owns the Orioles.

Posted by: JohnWWW | December 23, 2008 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I personally hope that the Nats sign NOBODY!!! Mediocrity is not memorable! I want to be the worst team in baseball again, then we fire Stan, Bowden, and Manny. As the Joker said "This town needs an Enema".

Time to start arranging wearing Curly W paper bag on your head nights, 7th inning walkouts, and Green GREED T-Shirts like Pittsburgh fans have over the last few years.

Mediocrity sucks. time to be memorable, even if it is memorably bad! Let's see what this great farm system can do for us.

Posted by: PNatsFan | December 23, 2008 11:23 PM | Report abuse

Well, this is sad. What saddens me more is that when the day comes, Ryan Zimmerman may very well seek a payday like Texiera. And even if the Nats met his demand, he may very well choose the Yankees or the Redsox over DC. Salary caps now, Bud, please.

Posted by: 6thandD | December 24, 2008 10:17 AM | Report abuse

No doubt that this move underscores the fact that baseball's arcane policies, no salary cap, lets the rich dominate any and all markets and hurt the league, any small market club is doomed to see their championships walk off to a higher payday. SALARY CAP

Posted by: bford1kb | December 24, 2008 2:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh Jim-bo free your mind and your ass will follow.

Man-ny to DC

And the children felt joy at Christmas

Posted by: Brue | December 24, 2008 5:50 PM | Report abuse

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