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Brewers Like Cordero... er, Hoffman; Mets Like Redding (Update)

And I like toffee. But that's neither here nor there.

Back in the saddle this morning and I see a couple of tidbits that weren't mentioned yesterday in posts or in comments, as near as I could tell:

The Brewers are somewhat interested in Chad Cordero (reported here among other places), as are the Diamondbacks.

Of course, if the Brewers sign Trevor Hoffman, they'll be out of the Cordero hunt.

UPDATE: Brewers give Hoffman 1 year, $6 million, says Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel.

The Mets offer Tim Redding a contract (reported here among other places).

The Phillies invite a former Nats pitcher to spring training -- Gary Majewski.

By Tracee Hamilton  |  January 8, 2009; 11:27 AM ET
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Thanks for the morsels, Tracee (and I like candy).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 8, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

I suppose now might be the time to mention that, although I do like the team trying Cabrera, I wouldn't have minded seeing the Nats sign Redding back to compete for the rotation.

I like Ben's all-the-way half smokes.

Posted by: Scooter_ | January 8, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

I wouldn't have minded that either, Scooter. Good luck to Redding, Chief, and Tex (but not Teix).

Also, I like ice cream in little (Nats) batting helmets. Dingers(TM) are okay, too.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 8, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse

Did the knishes stay around? I went looking for those a couple times and couldn't find them.

Posted by: Section506 | January 8, 2009 10:27 AM | Report abuse

When they non-tendered Redding I just didn't want to see him go to an NL East team. Good luck to him but please... sign with Colorado!

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 8, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Best of luck to all those guys at catching on somewhere; but I do have a (perhaps superstitious) certainty that one of them will come back wearing a different uniform and haunt us.

I like good beer at a ballpark. So I hope the rumor I heard that Allagash White will supplement if not replace the Blue Moon White at the beer carts next season proves true. Belgian-style witbier (white beer) is a marvelous drink in hot weather. And Allagash makes one of the best this side of Brussels.

Posted by: greggwiggins | January 8, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

Interesting... In the NY Post article about the Mets offer to Redding they mention that some believe the Nats to be suitors for Lowe:

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 8, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

I love the Lowe rumor. Although if something seems too good to be true...

He has said that winning is his main concern, which makes me think we are being Boras'ed again. Mention the rich and desperate Nat's to get better price.

Barton/K.K., Gonzalez/Pie and Wolf/Lowe. Any combination and I can go into the season a happy man. And it's still early enough in winter to be delusionally optimistic enough fool myslef into thinking it may happen.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 8, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

"The Mets have made a three-year, $36 million offer to pitcher Derek Lowe while agent Boras is looking for something more like four years, $64 million. The Mets don't see a need to make a significant increase in their bid until they are convinced there is another team willing to go higher than them for Lowe. Even so, a person with knowledge of the Mets' thinking says the ballclub is likely to eventually raise its offer to the $40 million range if told it will get a deal done. However, the Mets are firm on holding the length of the contract to three years for the 35-year-old righthander. There has been little evidence of other teams pursuing Lowe as heavily as the Mets. If Lowe gets better offers, the Mets say privately they will move on and try to make a deal to re-sign Oliver Perez, another Boras client. As of last night, however, the Mets still seemed to believe they have a good chance of landing Lowe. A report posted on the Mets Web site last night said the Mets discussed all of Boras' clients, which would include Manny Ramirez, but it still seems a longshot they would bring him aboard."

Why wouldn't we try to get in on Lowe? We can certainly outbid $12mil/yr. He's durable and a real veteran, not an arb-elligible vet.

Posted by: jctichen | January 8, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Scratch the Brewers off the list of Chief Chasers. They just signed Hoffman.

Posted by: RicketyCricket | January 8, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

I think we should make a good run at Lowe too, but I fear it might be another wild Teix chase. He has a real chance at signing with a contender, so why not go for it. Still, the more we try, the better the chances we get one of these guys.

The guys is a really smart pitcher, and could teach the kids in our rotation a lot.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 8, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

we're getting Boras'd.

the Mets offered 3/36. Lowe wants to play for the Mets but he wants 4/64. the Mets don't feel they need to raise their bid because nobody else is really a player for Lowe.

thus, Boras calls a reporter and says "the Nats...." hoping that by having the writer mention our name, the Mets will jump and say "ok 4/64".

seems that the Nats are Boras' designated patsy to drive up his clients prices. don't be surprised to hear more rumors of the Nats being "interested" or "a fit" for any client managed by Boras.

Posted by: MrMadison | January 8, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

It kills me to watch teams kiss up to agents.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 8, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

oh, and I like cheesecake, but Nats Park doesn't sell any.

so I'll settle for Dippin' Dots.

Posted by: MrMadison | January 8, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

"thus, Boras calls a reporter and says "the Nats...." hoping that by having the writer mention our name, the Mets will jump and say "ok 4/64"."

Thankfully, you know exactly what is going on.

Posted by: jctichen | January 8, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

For my money there is only one baseball meal. Hotdog, peanuts and beer. It's the only way...

Posted by: soundbloke | January 8, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

506, I can't remember who our intrepid knish reporter was (I seem to remember there being one on this blog). Maybe s/he will pipe up.

Also, Boras'd should enter the NJ lexicon if it has not already done so.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 8, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Smoltz likes Boston. Or Boston likes Smoltz. Or they like each other.

There's a link floating around on the sports page claiming the Red Sox inked the veteran. When you click on the link, you get an error page.

Don't know what to make of that.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 8, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Smoltz and Baldelli for the Sox:

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 8, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

I'm the knish reporter (or at least I've been known to pop in with comments on it). They can be found at the Kosher stands, which are not open for Friday night and Saturday games (and a few others which I can look up for anyone interested). Last year there were two stands, one near the kids area and Strike Zone and the other near Section 308/309. Near the end of the season, the one upstairs shut down although I seem to remember other stands up there also shutting down for lack of business. When the knishes are hot, they are awesome. Certainly one of my favorite items.

Posted by: LurkerNowPoster | January 8, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, LNP. I couldn't remember who it was.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 8, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

Raise your hand if you would have liked the Nats to have inked Trevor Hoffman for a 1 year, $1.75M deal and have him mentor Hanrahan as Hanrahan nails down the 8th inning...

Posted by: comish4lif | January 8, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Interesting contract for Baldelli. A lot of performance incentives. Very safe for Boston, but a lot of promise should Rocco's channelopathy treatments prove successful.

I don't like the Sox, but I'm happy for Baldelli.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 8, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

I second the knishes. Yummy. However, those Kosher stands slaways seemed to be out of sauerkraut every night (a sign said they were temporarily out of it). I think we were able to get one Kosher Dog with 'kraut sometime in April, but never was able to get one again. Like it's so hard to drive to Costco and buy a couple of gallon-sized tubs of 'kraut!

Posted by: erocks33 | January 8, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

Toffee is good, but .... I like the Ben's Chilli, but was disappointed in the sausage selection last year. RFK food was in general not good, but the Italian Sausage with peppers was awesome. Also I missed Capital Q Barbecue last year. Beer wise the selection on the upper deck was not nearly as varied and good as the lower deck.

The offer to Redding reminds me of what happens after the first six innings of a game. In Redding's case, he's a six inning pitcher only, but in NY with Putz and FRod, that might be ok for him. As for the Nats I think they were something like 1-78 last year in games in which they trailed after 7 (not exact). This is how you know that the offense was a bigger problem than the pitching. Good pitching never wins a game that you are already behind in.

Posted by: natbisquit | January 8, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Likewise re. Baldelli, JiM. Good timing that he'll be in Boston to accept the Tony Conigliaro award:

Go get 'em, Rocco.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 8, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Sign Lowe, trade for Swisher or Barton and you might have a team that would put fans in the stadium again. Settling for Odalis Perez just runs your fan base into the ground and scares talent off. Why do it? Why? Why? Why?

Posted by: Juliasdad | January 8, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

According to BI, the Nats did ask New York about Swisher, but the Yankees weren't interested in what Washington had to offer.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 8, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the tips on the knishes!

Posted by: Section506 | January 8, 2009 2:04 PM | Report abuse

Swisher is coming off a bad year and the Yankees may be forced to settle for less, but if you are going to actually trade something of value, it might be better to get a player with more upside, better defensive first baseman like Barton.

Posted by: Juliasdad | January 8, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse


Barton? Seriously? The guy had a VORP of -6.9 last year (for comparison, Kory Casto had a VORP of -6.8). Third worst-hitting first baseman in the majors. In 523 AB, Barton hit .226/.297/.313.

Posted by: TomServo | January 8, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse


If he could already hit 30 home runs they wouldn't have to call it potential. And he couldn't be acquired for a package consisting largely of Nick Johnson.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 8, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

In the grading of prospects, an A is a can't miss star, a B is a probable top 15 at his position, and a C is a possible role based contributor. Barton is a C+ prospect. He has a good eye, but lacks power, is a poor baserunner, and completely forgot how to hit right handed pitching last year (.208 as I recall). He may someday be Todd Helton-Lite (high OBP/AVG, but low power/production) but he is no sure thing. If Nick never plays 350 at-bats again, then Johnson for Barton is probably a good trade. But, if Johnson can sustain full-time status and production until the trading deadline this year, he should net a higher return than Barton. I'd make the trade now, but it could be a big bomb by May. Barton is not a lock to make it.

Posted by: natbisquit | January 8, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Pedro Martinez is my favorite player that I've seen play. I realize he probably has nothing left, and that he'll probably retire rather than take a low ball contract, but I would hope he'd take a "Dmitri"-base contract with lots of makeable incentives similar to the Smoltz deal and pitch for his old franchise (the former Expos, just to clarify).

Otherwise, if the NYY are holding out for Pettitte to take $10m or leave it, I would like to see the Nats offer him 1 year, $12 million and see if he'll come to the Capital. I would feel better about the rotation with one more veteran so that there is room if Balester regresses and more than one of the National Idol contestant (Zimmermann /Martis /Hill / Bergmann) isn't ready at the start of the season. I sort of feel Cabrera is the equivalent of Redding / Perez /Loaiza (cheap filler vet) and may come up short of what those guys did.

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | January 8, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

jca, every time I see Pedro's name in the list of available pitchers, I salivate just a little bit. Some of y'all say Teixeira is a name, and maybe you're right; but dude, Pedro is a Name. To paraphrase a comment from months ago re Manny, I would totally buy a Pedro Nats jersey. (Well, except for the part about actually buying it. Things are expensive, man.)

I'll defer to others' judgment on Derek Lowe, but the guy looks awfully 36-years-old to me. Three years is a bunch of years. And I think I've seen it mentioned a time or two hear that the Nats would probably have to beat, not match, the offer of an actual good team to sign most free agents, so offering 12 million presumably wouldn't do it.

Posted by: Scooter_ | January 8, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

If Nick Johnson can sustain full time status then I'll eat my hat. Not a shot at you, it's just really unlikely.

Sure Barton is a long shot, but he is a shot at something better. I would rather have KK as my long shot but, that might just be because he has a good name.

Pedro would certianly bring some Belly Fire to the club house. And he started with this organization. For those that are about the Pre-DC days. I used to love to watch him pitch then. The man was terrifying.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 8, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

In a conversation I heard on MLB Live XM175 last night, this kid Barton is the real deal. He was basically overmatched last season but then so was Roger Bernadina.

Please JimBO do something, the suspense is killing us!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | January 8, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Bernardina is our answer at centre. Milledge, Bernardina, Dukes. It's certainly a fast outfield. I'm most sure Bernardina won't make it but, why not try now. Stick Willingham at first where the defensive rock Hernandez/Hudson can compensate for him and there you go.

Wow, cheapness is contagious.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 8, 2009 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Bernadine in Center? No chance - he was overmathed at the plate last year and I'd be mega-surprised if he even becomes a league average MLB player. No pop, and barely average on base skills in the minors.

Posted by: comish4lif | January 8, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

I would take a flyer on Barton. His star has certainly dimmed somewhat but he's still just 23.

As for Pedro, as much as I would like to convince myself that ending his career back with this franchise would be appropriate, the fact is that he hasn't been right since he signed with the Mets. Do we really want a taste of this, particularly after last season's rash of injuries?

Jul 29, 2008: Missed 12 games (groin and bereavement list).
Jul 25, 2008: Personal reasons, bereavement list.
Jul 17, 2008: Groin and right shoulder, day-to-day.
Jun 3, 2008: Missed 54 games (left hamstring injury).
Apr 2, 2008: Left hamstring injury, 15-day DL.
Sep 3, 2007: Missed 136 games (rotator cuff).
Aug 21, 2007: Transferred from the 15-day DL to the 60-day DL (rotator cuff).
Mar 31, 2007: Rotator cuff, 15-day DL.
Oct 20, 2006: Missed last 4 regular season games and 10 playoff games (right calf injury).
Oct 4, 2006: Did not make the playoff roster.
Sep 28, 2006: Right calf injury, remainder of the regular season and the post-season.
Sep 15, 2006: Missed 27 games (strained right calf).
Aug 16, 2006: Strained right calf, 15-day DL.
Jul 28, 2006: Missed 20 games (right hip injury).
Jul 6, 2006: Right hip injury, 15-day DL.
Jul 3, 2006: Right hip injury, day-to-day.
Oct 2, 2005: Missed 10 games to the end of the regular season (foot injury).
Sep 27, 2005: Foot injury, day-to-day.
Feb 14, 2005: Signed by the New York Mets to a minor league contract and invited to spring training.
Dec 16, 2004: Signed as a free agent by the New York Mets to a four-year contract.

Posted by: BobLHead | January 8, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

The other thing to remember out Pedro is that as an Expos he went three season with no bullpen, so he was constantly throwing 8-9 innings. With his velocity that was a lot of punishment early on for a small body. It certainly looks like the early punishment has caught up with him.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 8, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

Comish --
Bernadina had a breakout year last year in the minors. Splitting time between Harrisburg and Columbus, he posted numbers of .335/.400/.490 and stole 41 out of 52 bases. Yeah he struggled when he first got called up to DC, but they made the mistake of letting him leadoff instead of letting him get a little more comfortable hitting in the 8 spot.

He went from AA to DC, then "demoted" to AAA, where he tore up AAA pitching (.351/.404/.513 in 191 AB's). When he got called up again in September, he did seem a little more comfortable at the plate (hit .306/.444/.389 in September and went 4 for 5 in SB). He's fast, can play any of the three OF positions, bats from the left-side and is young (he'll be 25 this season).

I don't know if he'll ever be an everyday MLB outfielder, but he does not have "barely average on base skills in the minors." I don't see any harm in letting him get a shot as the CF (or extra OF).

Posted by: erocks33 | January 8, 2009 5:58 PM | Report abuse

Back for a moment to Derek Lowe - Yes, sir, put me down for one of those on a 3-yr+, $42M/$47M offer sheet. Lowe would be a lovely addition to the Nationals - #1SP, highly reliable, great W/K ratio, Randy wouldn't need to 'screw around' with him, ...

2009 Rotation = Lowe(R), Olsen(L), Lannan(L), Cabrera(R), Hill(R) or Balestar(R). I can dream, can't I?

Posted by: BinM | January 8, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

erocks: If Bernadina is going to get a fair shake in Viera, he has to 1) play like his livlihood depends on it (because it does), and 2) some of the current glut of the Nationals OF candidates need to be moved out.

Posted by: BinM | January 8, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

New post, guys (and gals).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 8, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

FWIW - gnu post.

Posted by: BinM | January 8, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

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