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Chatty Day Today


Here's a link to Jon Denunzio's chat, going on now.

Here's a link to Boz's chat this afternoon.

By Tracee Hamilton  |  January 22, 2009; 11:47 AM ET
 
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Props to "the legendary" Coverage is Lacking on getting two questions answered in the DeNunzio chat. I was 0 for 2 myself. :(

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 22, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

They wouldn't want to print questions from two different Nats fans in that chat, natsfan1a, because all metrics they have (you know the list ... page views on their site, tv ratings, results of The Post's extensive reader surveys, etc etc.) indicate conclusively and unequivocally that there's only one Nats fan out there who reads the Post.

Posted by: nunof1 | January 22, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

The link to Jon's chat doesn't seem to work, at least for me.

Posted by: BobLHead | January 22, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

Good one, nunof!

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 22, 2009 12:38 PM | Report abuse

Try this, Bob L.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/discussion/2009/01/21/DI2009012102267.html

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 22, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

As someone who has occasionally objected to Coverage is Lacking's single mindedness and timing, I would like to applaud his careful and considered questions to the Post today in the DeNunzio Chat. I was disappointed in the response from DeNunzio in that it appeared to be an honest and acurate reflection of the lack of focus on the Nats coverage.

I believe there is a flaw in the logic the Post uses with regard to the Nats coverage. The Nats can someday be a revenue producer for the Post just as the Redskins are, but that will not happen without the Post's active participation in the development of the market. There is a greater burden on the Nationals ownership and management, but the Post will benefit from their success.

I greatly appreciate the coverage that the Post does provide today and recognize it as clearly the best available on the topic of the Nats, but it is still pale in comparison to what it should and could be. I am appreciative of all the baseball coverage provided - not just the Nats, but the TTMNBN and others.

I urge the Post to continue increasing their coverage int he coming weeks and months.

Posted by: natbisquit | January 22, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

BIG PROPS to CiL in the way he expressed the Constituency's concerns in the DeNunzio chat. I submitted some queries of my own that contained the substance. but not the nuances, of his points. I thought his approach was non-confrontational, yet eloquent at the same time. Like natbisquit, I sometimes wondered about his approach on the blog but offer my kudos for the way he made his points with DeNunzio, who is more of a friend of the Nats than EGR.

Posted by: leetee1955 | January 22, 2009 1:18 PM | Report abuse

"DeNunzio, who is more of a friend of the Nats than EGR."

Sure doesn't sound like that to me. DeNunzio just spouts the same old Post party line that originated with Garcia-Ruiz.

Posted by: nunof1 | January 22, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

I was in a situation once to meet Jon D. and the topic of NJ came up and the regulars who populate the comments. He specifically pointed out Coverage is Lacking and how much he liked his comments.

Posted by: NatsNut | January 22, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

@nunof1

With having Tracee and Sheinin supplementing Chico's work, there is more Nats-related coverage on the web than since The Blogfather was consigned to constant mediocrity. Granted it's not all breaking news, but the content level is increased and I give JDN credit for supplementing the content.

Posted by: leetee1955 | January 22, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, maybe DeNunzio likes CiL, but obviously not enough to pay any attention to his complaints.

Posted by: nunof1 | January 22, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Since we're talking about coverage, can we get someone here to confirm what Boz just said about Nick Johnson not starting swinging a bat yet?

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"Remember, he still hasn't started swinging a bat after an injury last spring that he got when he checked his swing!"

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 22, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

"Remember, he still hasn't started swinging a bat after an injury last spring that he got when he checked his swing!"

He said "remember", so that would mean this is something he and/or the Post already reported, right? Or is Boswell's primary source also somewhere other than the Post?

Posted by: nunof1 | January 22, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

There might more coverage but as usual with this @@###$ team, there is nothing to report. I am sitting on the edge of my seat waiting to hear who is going to coach Vermont, what color the seats are going to be in Potomac and whether Donny is going to leave us. This pace of breaking news is just too hectic. Poor Bill Ladson has now resorted to resubmitting columns he wrote about the team two years ago. All he is doing changing some of the names.

This whole team is horse ----!

Posted by: mjames0 | January 22, 2009 2:16 PM | Report abuse

So is anybody else going to the STH thing at the park Sunday?

Posted by: CEvansJr | January 22, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

Agree completely with Boz comments - You gotta make a first move. Maybe you save some $$ on the 2nd or 3rd signing (I know - in my dreams), but you gotta bite the bullet and make at least the first move. It's like they have no clue how desperate their fans are for something positive.

If nothing happens this offseason - I'll be totally moving over to the LAC camp. Lerners Are Cheap.

Posted by: Bazz | January 22, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, guys, for your comments of support. I was glad that Jon took my questions, but also disappointed for the most part with his answers. Busy day for me today, otherwise I would have a bit more to say...

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | January 22, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

I was a bit disappointed in Jon's chat. He was very straightforward that it's just a business decision based on a variety of samplings, which I appreciated. I've always appreciated his openness with the web community.

What I was disappointed in was that it appeared to be the end of the conversation. We question, he answers. If you have a small, but rabid group of fans, why wouldn't you want to seek a way to make them happier? Why is there no further conversation about what can be done within the constraints we have to make more money off us suckers?

Posted by: Section506 | January 22, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

"So is anybody else going to the STH thing at the park Sunday?"

No, you'll be all alone there.

Posted by: nunof1 | January 22, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Well we're all somewhat desperate for some good news, but I don't see how offering $180 million to Teixeira and $30 million to Bradley makes anyone cheap. We also took on Willingham and Olsen, who were available because the (cheap) Marlins did not want to pay them in arbitration.

I think the team has done a decent job of acquiring some assets since the Lerners came on board, but they don't fit together all that well at the moment. We have three left fielders, two right fielders, and two first basemen, no center fielder, second baseman, or leadoff hitter, some questionable defenders, some questionable personalities, and a lot of injuries.

I'm not sure free agency is the best cure for these uncertainties and imbalances -- some trades may be necessary in order to smooth things out.

Posted by: BobLHead | January 22, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

I don't know about anyone else, but after those chats, I am one glum chum.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 22, 2009 2:58 PM | Report abuse

I may be late (remember, there's a four hour time difference), but thanks to 'Coverage is Lacking' for the chat questions. You articulated a lot of my own concerns...

I don't think you got the best answers, though.

Posted by: wigi | January 22, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

CE, I'm not a STH but I believe that there is a STH luncheon on Friday. The other caravan events, including the NatsFest on Sunday, which I plan to attend, are open to others as well.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 22, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

"results of The Post's extensive reader surveys"

I once had the misfortune of participating in one of the Washington Post's extensive reader surveys. By "extensive" I guess they mean "interminable". It was a phone survey, and against my better judgment I agreed to participate. It went on and on and on and on. Each time you answered a question (phrased like "On a scale from 1 to 10, with one being highest and 10 being lowest, how often do you read X column inch in the Post?") with a non-negative answer, it would spawn 20 more questions of the same ilk. Each one of which would have to be read out by the telemarketer in full before any answer was accepted. After two or three of these, I decided to mess with the guy and give the most non-sensical, non-conforming set of answers I could come up with. There may have been one question in there about Nationals coverage, but I'm not sure about that. If there was, I'm sure it was the one question I answered truthfully in the ten minutes or more I was on the phone with the guy. But God help us if this kind of thing is what the Post is using to base their coverage decisions on.

Posted by: nunof1 | January 22, 2009 3:01 PM | Report abuse

They're also basing it, at least somewhat, on the amount of times we click on NJ, post on NJ, and click on the gamer.

Honestly, we could probably learn a lot by reading Redskins Insider. We could probably increase the reader metrics by designating ten people to post "First!" replies to start every thread, as well as agree to accuse Chico of "hating" at least fifteen times per discussion.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 22, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

I've not yet read the Bos chat but did read the coverage chat. As others have noted, it would be great to see a continuing exchange on coverage. I was also disappointed at some of the answers.

I'll also add that, as one of the print-subscriber dinosaurs, I found it irksome to hear the current Post price (which has increased despite a shrinking paper) characterized as "not fair" for the amount of work that goes into it. I don't doubt that lots of work goes into it, and I appreciate that, but I also don't doubt that many/most readers work hard for their money and need to carefully consider how they will spend it in these times when a dollar doesn't go as far for groceries, gas, or other necessities.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 22, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

JiM, I asked about that one time (don't recall whether it was on a blog or in a previous chat), and I believe they said that the number of comments per post was not a factor. At the time, I also wondered (but didn't get a response regarding) what effect those of us who use ad blocking utilities/software might have.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 22, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Excellent points Bob. The 'cheap' tag might not really fit. It should probably be something like 'overly deliberate' instead. The recent inaction is maddening.

Either way I know I'm frustrated.

Posted by: Bazz | January 22, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Nats-related Bog post alert!

http://tinyurl.com/bp7uno

Bog blogs 'bout Bally's blog. And, for those of you for whom this would be added motivation, there's even a picture of a shirtless Balester in the post.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 22, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

If only they took the quality of comments into consideration, 1a. If only.

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JiM, I asked about that one time (don't recall whether it was on a blog or in a previous chat), and I believe they said that the number of comments per post was not a factor.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 22, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Thanks Bazz, happy to join you in the "Nats/Lerners are Overly Deliberate" camp.

As to clicks vs. comments, ad revenue is triggered by clicks. You have to click to comment, but you don't have to comment in order to see the ads.

So, if we want to keep Shiner and others active over on Baseball Insider, we should be sure to click over there, even if we spend most of our commenting time here.

Posted by: BobLHead | January 22, 2009 3:52 PM | Report abuse

Heh, heh. That's the rub. There needs to BE a post or a gamer to click on, my friend.

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They're also basing it, at least somewhat, on the amount of times we click on NJ, post on NJ, and click on the gamer.

Posted by: NatsNut | January 22, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Zing!

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 22, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I do not doubt the metrics for site traffic here or on other Nats/ MLB portions of the website. Whenever Chico posts his on-line survey/polls, it seems the response total is around 300 - 400. To compare, if you go to the Boston.com website and look at the survey they have up for the Red Sox road uniform changes (on their red sox page, under "Red Sox Nation Fan Zone" at the bottom), it has over 60,000 responses. Yes, it's been up for a while, but almost any survey they do on the Sox gets well into the thousands in responses.

I don't bother looking at the Skins coverage here, but how many people typically fill out those surveys?

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | January 22, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Off topic, but did anyone catch Keith Law's farm rankings? Does this cinch him being anti-Nats?

Posted by: goexpos2 | January 22, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

K Law's Chat was even better:

paul,washington d.c: why the nationals dont even have a scout in venezuela,colombia,aruba,curazao,panama? ,and in the dominican rijo have a lot fringe player, much of them over the aged of 22 and two teams,how they be better if they dont competed internationaly with good scouting

Keith Law: Don't ask me to explain anything that happens there. They botched their first-round pick, fielded an absolutely awful team, and found their GM and a top assistant embroiled in the scouting/embezzlement scandal, and their GM survived. I was thinking this morning that if I was named the new GM of the Nationals, I would start my first press conference by blowing up a Segway.

Posted by: Bazz | January 22, 2009 4:58 PM | Report abuse

They typically get about 1,500-1,700, but about 500 of those are only taking the survey so that they can proclaim that they are the first to do so.

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I don't bother looking at the Skins coverage here, but how many people typically fill out those surveys?

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 22, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

You know, ant-Nats or not, he has a hell of a point there.

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I was thinking this morning that if I was named the new GM of the Nationals, I would start my first press conference by blowing up a Segway.

Posted by: JohninMpls | January 22, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Well that's just it isn't. Bowden thinks that kind of thing makes him eccentric. The rest of baseball makes thinks he looks like a clown. We are waiting on these free agent moves, and everyone know that we will miss out on them. No wonder we can't trade for young guys. Why would anyone do business with someone they have no respect for, like Bowden.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 22, 2009 5:03 PM | Report abuse

Yikes! Holy typo Batman!

"The rest of baseball thinks it makes him look like a clown"

"everyone knows that we will miss out on them"

Good Lord. I'm off to offer up my first born the the God of Grammar in apology.

Posted by: soundbloke | January 22, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

"Bowden thinks that kind of thing makes him eccentric. The rest of baseball makes thinks he looks like a clown."

You're seen as eccentric when you're winning. And you're seen as a clown when you're losing. Right now, it's not even close.

Posted by: AshburnVA | January 22, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

Give the man a red nose and pink slip!

Posted by: soundbloke | January 22, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

The Lerners may or may not be cheap - but they look cheap when they go out and acquire 2 arbitration eligible players - but can not sign them before submitting arb. figures.

The offers for Teixeira and Bradley don't tell me anything, other than they didn't get the job done.

And if they don't spend money to improve the team and go into April with the same or lower payroll than last season, well, I'll have only 1 conclusion to draw - they are cheap, ineffectual owners.

Posted by: comish4lif | January 22, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Great googly moogilins - Can the Lerners' just finish their cost / ROI analysis & give the go ahead on a move? Sign a free agent, sign an arb case, sign Frank Howard... JUST DO SOMETHING!

Posted by: BinM | January 22, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Was really disappointed in Denunzio - his point seemed to be that since there are no fans, they won't go through the trouble to produce Nats information.

I pointed out that they seem to have no trouble producing Skins coverage year round - making chicken salad from chicken...

I tried to make the point that it is a self fulfilling prophecy. Why would I look for Nats info on WaPo. I know from experience, that I am unlikely to find new info here. So, I stopped looking. So, his numbers show that no one is looking here. Nope, there's nothing to find, so, we all gave up.

Posted by: comish4lif | January 22, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

BTW, there's a short Q&A w/ Frank Howard on the Nationals' page at mlb.com
http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090122&content_id=3763768&vkey=news_was&fext=.jsp&c_id=was

Posted by: BinM | January 22, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

This from Jim Callis on BA yesterday:

Zachary Cambridge, MA: I know that it is early on, but which 2009 draft pick has the best shot of making it to the Major Leagues the quickest?

Jim Callis: (2:00 PM ET ) Actually, it's pretty easy. Stephen Strasburg of San Diego State is clearly the No. 1 talent in the draft and will move quickly. He was the lone collegian on the U.S. Olympic team last year.

Posted by: BobLHead | January 22, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

You know, I don't mind them being cheap, it's the ineffectual that get on my nerves. If they actually spent money on foreign free agents and scouting, drafted guys who want to come, and made trades even if they damaged payroll (and no, Olson and Willgsham have no serious impacts so they don't count) then I could forgive them. It the fact that we are wandering from one failure in the system to the next with no apology and no clear aim as to how we will improve.

And our GM rides around on a damn segway! And other GM's don't take his calls! If I were Zimm I wouldn't sign a long term deal either!

Posted by: soundbloke | January 22, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

"Paul, Washington DC: Why don't the Nationals have a scout in Venezuela, Colombia, Aruba, Curazao, or Panama? And in the Dominican Republic Rijo has a lot of fringe players, many of them over the age of 22, how can they get better if they don't compete internationally with good scouting"

Perfect question for the Hot Stove Luncheon tomorrow.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | January 22, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

@comish:
If memory serves, Harlan's posts to NJ tended to come in flurries last year. He'd go sometimes a day-or-so with nothing new, then fire up two or three new pieces in a day, sometimes in a 4-hour period. I think a lot of the viewers would go to the final post & not bother with the rest; just an observation, but that can effect overall hits & viewers.

Posted by: BinM | January 22, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Co-sign soundbloke and KLAW on JimBow

Other REAL GM's probably have a sign at their switchboards reading "Accept no calls from area code 202." This organization is a laughing stock with "Cold Pizza" refugee Bottom-Feeding Bowden as the public face of management. The man has no vision for the future of this team and collects the same types of "toolsy" players in hopes one or two of them - Milledge. Kearns, Dukes, Willingham - pan out. Apparently the team has no real international presence except in the Dominican. Boz may have been spot on about something he said in his chat about a possible explosion soon within the front office. Oh well, we have NatsFest to look forward to this Sunday.

Posted by: leetee1955 | January 22, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Well, there needs to be one. They need an overhaul in the FO like the one they had in the coaching staff. Keep Stan the Man, Rizzo and get rid of the rest.

Bring in a GM with a proven record of building through youth and international scouting, give him the opportunity to spend money on the farm and scouting and pay him well.

Or we could keep Bowden, sign Dunn and see if we can't make a good run at 110 losses. If anyone can do it, it's Bow-Bow the Clown

Posted by: soundbloke | January 22, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

@leetee:

Does anybody have a switchboard anymore? I worked one as a night job back in the 70's while in college & boy, howdy things have changed.
Also, the only thing to look forward to at NatsFest would be JimBow taking the podium to announce his last day with the Nationals will be January 31.

Posted by: BinM | January 22, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

@BinM

LOL! One of my first jobs was as a switchboard operator. Just goes to show how old I am.

Posted by: leetee1955 | January 22, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

@leetee:
That's two of us.

Posted by: BinM | January 22, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

New post.

Posted by: BinM | January 22, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

Anybody else been having trouble signing in? Maybe it was something I said.

One of my mom's last jobs was as a switchboard operator. (One ringy-dingy. Two ringy-dingies.)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | January 22, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

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