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Pitching Practice

About 10 minutes from now, Washington's pitchers and catchers will head out to the field for some stretching, the first part of the first official team workout. The day's full itinerary was posted in the Space Coast Stadium clubhouse.

10:05 -- pitcher throwing program
10:20 -- bullpen sessions (for those Ps scheduled)
11:15 -- catcher defense
11:35 -- catcher batting practice
11:55 -- catcher conditioning

Pat Corrales, veteran of 51 spring trainings, has a more concise way to summarize the first day.

"Pitching practice," he called it. The pitchers get in shape, catchers get sweaty. "For catchers," he said, "this is where they work the hardest."

Some other notes...

* Odalis Perez still has not arrived in camp. We'll dig up the explanation (likely a visa issue) later today.

* At 9 a.m. this morning, the team held a big meeting in the clubhouse. Coaches, GM Jim Bowden, trainers, players -- everybody was there.

By Chico Harlan  |  February 16, 2009; 9:31 AM ET
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I'd forgotten that Corrales had been brought back as a special consultant to Bowden. Is Corrales at ST and, if so, what is his role?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | February 16, 2009 10:02 AM | Report abuse

... from the recent post on Manny:

... in baseball, just like in most every other professional team sport, players want to play on teams that contend for success, in places where their efforts will be appreciated. It is the role of the owners to provide such an environment: to put together a roster of athletes with the ability and drive to compete and contend, to put enough bums in the seats who will show their appreciation for the hard work of the team. Once that is established, the president can then breathe a sigh of relief and instruct the GM to rollup his sleeves and do the gritty work of building the team in the right way. The manager can be the beneficiary of all that support from the FO. The focus is placed on the manager when the season is underway. If the team succeeds, he is given the glory. But if the team falters, he gets the blame. That’s not fair.

... the manager has a job to do, a large one, but the credit and/or the blame for the results of the team must – as always – trickle up the line to those above him who have already done their part.

... if 2009 is a make-or-break year for Manny Acta, the spotlight must first be directed on the Lerners, Kasten, and Bowden.

Posted by: natscanreduxit | February 16, 2009 10:08 AM | Report abuse


Yeah, that would be my assessment of your spelling as well.

Posted by: nunof1 | February 16, 2009 10:25 AM | Report abuse

Every year we hear about "visa" issues with players coming back from the DR, Venezuela, etc. How is this possible, every year? These guys know exactly when spring training starts and basically have from Oct 1st til Feb 1st to get their affairs in order so they can be on time.

I would think teams would be incredibly irritated by guys who can't manage this simple task.

Posted by: tboss | February 16, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse


You apparently have never had a conversation with Boarder Security or Homeland Security. There really is no fixed time line.

Posted by: soundbloke | February 16, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Re Odalis Perez and the visa, wouldn't he need the sponsorship of an employer in order to apply for a work visa? He was unsigned until just a week or two ago, in other words unemployed. His clock with Immigration probably just got started, and we all know that dealing with Immigration is probably even worse than dealing with Patty and Selma down at the DMV. Hopefully Odalis will be here before the games start!

Posted by: nunof1 | February 16, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

JayB I just read you on Chatter. Do you have the ability to be positive at all. Its the first day of ST, cut them some slack.

Posted by: natsguy | February 16, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

I've dealt with INS. I have complete sympathy for all these guys. Remember also that each team has a limited number of work visas it can get for its employees. That's one reason the Dominican Summer League started - so teams could get them game experience without bringing them to work in the States. nunof1 is probably right that Perez couldn't get the ball rolling until he was signed.


Posted by: db423 | February 16, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

NOTE TO TBOSS: I'm with you on the visa issue,its like a player who waits until two weeks before training camp to have surgery he knew he needed at the end of the previous season, its ridiculous.

Posted by: dargregmag | February 16, 2009 11:34 AM | Report abuse

Here's a crazy trade idea; Arizona re-signs Hudson to a 1 year deal. We trade Willingham and Cory VanAllen to ARI for Hudson and Rauch.

We get Olsen and Hudson for half a year of Rauch (and a C prospect), shore up our bullpen and fix the 2nd base situation and here your opening line-up
1. Hudson (2B)
2. Dukes (RF)
3. Johnson (1B)
4. Dunn (LF)
5. Zimmerman (3B)
6. Milledge (CF)
7. Flores (CA)
8. Guzman (SS)
9. Olsen (SP)

Posted by: estuartj | February 16, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

@ estuartj: I assume that you are going on the rosey assumption that NJ will not break down?

It is an interesting idea, but I think with NJ's history, it may be too risky to trade Willingham (If NJ goes down, Dunn goes to 1B and Willingham ends up in LF).

Posted by: TimDz | February 16, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I like many of the moves the team made this winter. I like that Acta finally is talking about doing things that better teams do not need to do....this is what they need to work on.....I am not happy that Acta told us at Fan Fest and Season ticket lunch that we were all stupid for asking about ways to manufacture runs and I do not think a 2 your work day is going to get the message across to this team.

Posted by: JayBeee | February 16, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

Going back a couple posts to the Acta contract issue, I wonder if Manny has been offered an extention that he hasn't accepted yet, he's been one of the lowest paid managers and in majors and the Mets have shown interest in bringing him to NY, so Manny might be looking forward to being a free agent after the season.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | February 16, 2009 11:51 AM | Report abuse

INS = ICE now... My Mom's family is from Honduras and I can say getting a Visa isn't a walk in the park anymore can you say Homeland Security. Like nunof1 said his clock just got ticking. I don't know how the US consulate/Embassy in the DR works or how fast they can turn around a Visa for Perez. He had the same problem last year, too. It suck getting signed right before camp i suppose. You can bet he's been saying some hijo de p***s
and stuff like that for sure. I love cussing in spanish it sound nastier and rolls off the tongue like a medium well steak slapped to the face hot off the grill.

Posted by: Berndaddy | February 16, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

PB69, it's not a possible extension to Manny's contract that's at issue. It's a team option that they hold on his services for 2010. If they choose to pick up that option, he can't decline it. So the only way he can become a free agent after this season is if the club fires him and makes him one.

I predict that unless the team is a total disaster on par with last year they will pick up Manny's 2010 option early on in the season, if for no other reason than to silence the press who will surely keep raising the issue until it's resolved one way or the other.

Posted by: nunof1 | February 16, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

Nunof1: You're right, I missed the part about the second club option. Lerner should pick up the $700K option for 2010 and avoid entering the season with a lame duck manager.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | February 16, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Nun, you wouldn't be SSND, by chance?

Yeah, that would be my assessment of your spelling as well.
Posted by: nunof1 | February 16, 2009 10:25 AM

"Little League mistakes" from people who can't spell better than a fifth-grader.


It is Spring Training so please tell me these Little League fundamentals will be worked on. Chico, please give us an update. Thanks!

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | February 16, 2009 9:59 AM

Posted by: CEvansJr | February 16, 2009 1:14 PM

Posted by: CEvansJr | February 16, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

estuartj, apparently you're discounting the FO saying they are no longer interested in Hudson. Could be posturing ...

Posted by: CEvansJr | February 16, 2009 1:24 PM | Report abuse

Timdz, I'm not discounting NJ getting hurt (completely), but would you rather have (1b/2b/lf/cf/rf) be Dunn/Hudson/dukes/milledge/kearns or

Basically is Kearns defense will Hudson worth more than the downgrade from Willingham to Kearns AND Hudson to Hernandez.

Also, CEvansJr, I think Bowden said we wouldn't SIGN Hudson, nothing about trading for him if ARI resigned him...Which BTW it looks like MLBPA is tryinig to help clubs do (see MLBTR today).

Posted by: estuartj | February 16, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse


You're right, that trade is a crazy idea. Let's see the team get a couple of weeks of time in Viera in first before we start giving away the farm.

Posted by: BinM | February 16, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Leonard Davis is giving away the farm? In truth I think we keep Willingham, but if ARI does re-sign Hudson to trade him (for fear of him going unsigned afer the draft and they lose all compensation) what is a decent price to pay for 1 year of Hudson?

Posted by: estuartj | February 16, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

The only reason that the press is going to care about Acta's contract status is if they are winning. If they are not winning, should anyone really care that Manny is not under contract for 2010? My Magic 8 Ball points in the other direction, I think that unless Manny manages them to a winning record, he is gone and the club goes for a name guy. Davey Johnson, Bobby Vallentine, Willie Randolph that kind of guy.

Posted by: dfh123 | February 16, 2009 2:19 PM | Report abuse

Over on the insiders they are discussing the same sign and trade possibility. The more I look at it the more likely it is that MLB is opening the possibility in order to push players (like Hudson) to lower their year or AAV demands so that teams (like the Nats) might consider signing them to 1 year deals in hopes of "flipping" them next off season when hopefully the market will have improved.

If they are looking at a group of top talent going unsigned through June they might end up going a lot farther than just condoning sign & trades and go all the way to trading draft picks, 1st year pro players or maybe work with MLBPA to scrap the whole FA compensation system.

Posted by: estuartj | February 16, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Who says it has to be just one year of Hudson? I mean, if Arizona signs him to a 2-3 year deal that Bowden says is acceptable, then the Diamondbacks can trade that contract to DC.

Posted by: JohninMpls | February 16, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

Why would we want Hudson for 3 years, 2 maybe, but IMO that is a stretch. Best deal is 1 year then you can roll the dice on getting better the compensation picks, if you want to keep him for '10 you try to negotiate an extension.

Posted by: estuartj | February 16, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

New posts up.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | February 16, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

I read on another message board that Perez isn't happy with his Minor League contract and now wants to negotiate better. That's why he's holding out.

Posted by: CALSGR8 | February 16, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

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