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Tonight's Lineups From HSCS

We've got a night game against the Braves tonight, and for this one, the Nats have their white unis ready and a lineup that very closely resembles that Opening Day model. (Or the most likely one.)

Only difference: The catcher and the starting pitcher.

Milledge - 8
Guzman - 6
Zimmerman - 5
Dunn - 7
Dukes - 9
Johnson - 3
Valentin - 2
Hernandez - 4
Balester -1

By Chico Harlan  |  March 25, 2009; 2:43 PM ET
 
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Man, I like this lineup, just missing Flores.

Posted by: irishnat | March 25, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

I would flip Nick and Guz. Otherwise, looks good to me. Here's hoping for a good outing by Bally*.

Posted by: BobLHead | March 25, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

"Wonder if anybody with the Nationals actually figured the cost of keeping Hill around for a couple months vs. not delaying NN's starts. Seems to me like a $600k investment now to delay JZ's arb clock while putting a decent product on the field might have been the way to go."

Okay, so Hill pitches his one inning every other week to take some load off Zimmermann. What happens the rest of the time? Does Hill's magical inning stretch to feed the innings appetite like Jesus's (not the catcher or the one with the sacred buttocks) five loaves and a few fishes stretched to feed the appetite of thousands of people? If so, Hill must be even more of a food wizard than the great Chico Harlan!

Posted by: spamcastin | March 25, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Lets hope Balester can have a good game as he finally has a roster befitting of Opening Day.

Posted by: dmacman88 | March 25, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Bally's last start before DFA'd...I predict a run an inning, as usual

Posted by: jdschulz50 | March 25, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

This is a good read. The "Sloth" comments give you the insight of how he started off after High School.

In case you missed my Post on the previous thread here is the link:

HOT OFF THE PRESS:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/lee_jenkins/03/25/stephen.strasburg/?eref=sircrc


Posted by: dmacman88 | March 25, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Chico, I keep asking and you keep not answering this question but I'll try again-any word on Tavarez's visa issues, and how long with the Nats be patient about this?

Posted by: skippy1999 | March 25, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

Spamcatin:

I've read this blog for a long time and have never before felt the need to contribute to the commentary. Now I do. I'm not going to defend anything in the Washingtonian article about Mr. Harlan, but it is what it is. He made his statement to this audience and you can like it or not. You, however, have no call to act like a jerky 7 year-old and persist in the personal vendetta you seem to have against Mr. Harlan. I'd fall over in my chair if you're actually a subscriber to the Post, rather than just an online leach. And even if you were a subscriber, nobody cares what you think about the Mr. Harlan's motives or ability. His job is to write newpaper articles, not be the toady of a bunch of online dufuses (myself included). In short, and I mean this sincerely: grow up, get over yourself, and shut the hell up already with the food critic schtick.

Posted by: PeelerK | March 25, 2009 3:07 PM | Report abuse

I second that, PeelerK.

Posted by: sec307 | March 25, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Hey I had a post here and now it's going, what's up with that?

Posted by: skippy1999 | March 25, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Like that lineup too - makes us look like a real baseball team, no?
Not to mention that now we finally have A LITTLE versatility. AH has some leadoff potential down the road if he's patient, we know he can run the bases. Guz can always go back there, but I think we all prefer him at #2. If Midge doesn't work out, he's a good option at #2 or down in the order at #6 or so. I also like the fact that Dukes is #5 splitting up the lefties. God bless the old Nats, but NJ never was a #4, average #5 hitter, probably a great #6.
Can't wait.

Posted by: ajtrue78 | March 25, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

PeelerK gets my vote for Post of The Day.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 25, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Chico, I keep asking and you keep not answering this question but I'll try again-any word on Tavarez's visa issues, and how long with the Nats be patient about this?

Posted by: skippy1999 | March 25, 2009 3:04 PM
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Perhaps you might be more successful if you worked a food angle into your question.

Posted by: spamcastin | March 25, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

@ spamcastin

I wonde

Posted by: CluelessNatsFan | March 25, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

dschulz50:

Big difference between DFA (Designated for Assignment) prior to release, which is not going to happen and "Option to Syracuse" which could.

Posted by: deMille_Ondefloss | March 25, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

@ spamcastin

My apologies my computer decided to take its vengeance upon me.

I was going to say that I had been thinking the same thing with Hill. We could give him a try. Let him pitch a bit and if he can't make it through a month drop him. Which would slow down the arbitration clock (which I do not fully understand) and free agency. And all on the cheap. The decision making process is a bit confusing to me.

I'm interested to see what the do. Maybe Bergman in the rotation?

Posted by: CluelessNatsFan | March 25, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

"I've read this blog for a long time and have never before felt the need to contribute to the commentary."

So, you were a PeelurKer!

(and POD seconded, btw)

Posted by: CEvansJr | March 25, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Darn it I meant We COULD have giveN him a try.

I know Hill is gone. I'm not totally clueless.

Posted by: CluelessNatsFan | March 25, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

2 big thumbs up to PeelerK

Posted by: dmacman88 | March 25, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm with BobL - I'd flip Nick and Guuz and call it good. NJ's .130 iso OBP is a bit wasted in front of the bottom of the order and Guuz's slap-happy-contact (.030 iso OBP) is better lower in the lineup than behind Milledge where he might wipe him out with a DP. NJ's got a bit more power, which may suggest you want him 6, but I'll take a little too much pop and a guy that gets on a ton in front of Zimm, Dunn, Dukes.

I'd also love to see how a Millz-Guz-NJ-Dukes-Dunn-Zim lineup would play. Yay for pieces to move around.

Posted by: Highway295Revisited | March 25, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

What does the Braves lineup look like tonight?

Posted by: NatsNut | March 25, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Ted Lerner (105th richest American)is worth $3.5 billion (3,500 million. Pay Strasburg.

Posted by: nova_g_man | March 25, 2009 3:30 PM | Report abuse

BobL's optimum batting order article suggests that the 3 best hitters should be #1, #4, and #2, with #1 having the least power. It even suggests #3 is a bit overated a position because #3 comes up with 2 outs most of the time. It says that if #5 has some speed, a high contact hitter might be the best for #6.

A Johnson / Guz flip flop would still break up the righties at the top, and go R - L - R - L - R - S - S - S. With Flores for Valentin, #7 would be an R surrounded by switch hitters. A part of me would still like to see a Willie / Belli platoon if AH cools down. Guz as #2 is not so bad if you buy the more optimistic OBP projections like PECOTA, but I hate hate hate Nick as #6. That is way too far back for arguably the best hitter on the team.

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | March 25, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Ted Lerner (105th richest American) is worth $3.5 billion (3,500 million). Pay Strasburg.

Posted by: nova_g_man | March 25, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, unlike Barry, Chico is not prone to responding to, or answering, our questions or points made in the comments. Who knows why? Maybe he thinks we baseball fans--or, our questions at least--are beneath him?

* * * * *

Chico, I keep asking and you keep not answering this question but I'll try again-any word on Tavarez's visa issues, and how long with the Nats be patient about this?

Posted by: skippy1999 | March 25, 2009 3:04 PM

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | March 25, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

oops it's back, nevermind :)

Posted by: skippy1999 | March 25, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Good call PeelerK. It's getting old, Spamcastin. Time to live and let live, whether you like it or not. If you dislike Chico that much, your energy would be better spent lobbying his WaPo bosses than making childish comments on his blog site.

Posted by: kfisher32 | March 25, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

CiL, the reason why Chico doesn't respond is because he has to keep stirring the sauce so that it won't stick to the bottom of the pan.

That one's for you spamkastin!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | March 25, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Okay, who from Nats Journal wrote that Hardball Times article?

Posted by: Section506 | March 25, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

PeelerK, post of day.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | March 25, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

>Unfortunately, unlike Barry, Chico is not prone to responding to, or answering, our questions or points made in the comments. Who knows why? Maybe he thinks we baseball fans--or, our questions at least--are beneath him?

Of course it is, and we are. But we got this little nugget -

>We've got a night game against the Braves tonight, and for this one, the Nats have their white unis ready

How fab!! Ya don't say? I love them in combination with the red warmups!

Hey maybe he'll answer one of my questions now, if I could only find something to ask him.

Posted by: Brue | March 25, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I guess the answer is Chris Needham, I should have read that whole byline thing.

Posted by: Section506 | March 25, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

>CiL, the reason why Chico doesn't respond is because he has to keep stirring the sauce so that it won't stick to the bottom of the pan.

That one's for you spamkastin!

Jeez I hate when that happens. These baseball games take up so much time!!

Posted by: Brue | March 25, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

More afternoon reading: check out SI on Adam Dunn (thanks to Tracee for the earlier heads up on this week's piece):

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1153357/index.htm

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | March 25, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Also, PeelerK, don't forget SpamCastin's number one sin: the comments aren't funny.

Posted by: Section506 | March 25, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

"The country that just whupped our butts, Japan, has their pitchers throw every day and a lot. It hasn't seemed to hurt their performance."

"I admit, #4, I've spent like 20 minutes trying to figure out the logical connection between sentence 1 and sentence 2 above - we're talking about whether pitchers get injured from overuse, not whether overused pitchers can perform? Livan Hernandez was effective for years throwing lots of pitches."

@295: I suppose I was referring to the performance of the team, Japan, not the individual pitchers. Clearly as a country they are producing good pitchers. The (over)work is not impacting their development or longevity it appears. If it did you'd think a smaller country, Japan, would get beaten regularly by a larger one, the US. I'd throw Korea into the discussion as well.

In addition when I say they throw everyday, I don't mean they pitch in a game everyday. I mean they play lots of long toss and throw a lot of bullpens. They simply throw a lot more.

#4

Posted by: db423 | March 25, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

>So, you were a PeelurKer!

Well said, CE!

295, if you and I agree on anything more people are going to start thinking we are the same person.

JCATBNL, I was thinking of that optimal lineup article, and with splitting up lefties and righties, when I suggested that order. Maybe we should send the article to Manny? Evidently he reads that kind of stuff.

Seriously, if Milledge can post an OBP of .350 and Nick .400, there would be plenty of baserunners for Zim, Dunn and Dukes to drive in. Many more than with Guz in the #2 slot.

And 506, Chris Needham wrote that article, but it does show that many of us have a similar view of the team as presently constructed.

Posted by: BobLHead | March 25, 2009 3:54 PM | Report abuse

Ted Lerner (105th richest American)is worth $3.5 billion (3,500 million. Pay Strasburg.

Posted by: nova_g_man | March 25, 2009 3:30 PM

*********************************
This is classic. So a man that is worth (supposedly) $3.5 billion decides to legally bind himself and his partners to a $50 million guaranteed contract which is 1.4% of his new worth in percentage terms would be like a guy worth $3.5 million writing a check today for future services to seasonal household employee for $50,000.

Most of the people on the "Wealth" list got there by being smart about business moves.

If you pay $tra$$burg $50 million and he blows out his elbow, you still have to pay him as a guaranteed contract.

nova_g_man - What is your net worth and let's have fun spending 1.4% of your net worth!!!

I LOVE SPENDING OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY!!!

Posted by: dmacman88 | March 25, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Good advice PeelerK, leave the man alone yeah he wasn't smart saying what he said in print but beyond that let the man do his job,okay back to baseball the Braves lineup will be a good test for Balester,he needs to show something today with a spring training ERA approaching six Balester needs to have a good outing if nothing more than for his own self confidence.

Posted by: dargregmag | March 25, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Also, PeelerK, don't forget SpamCastin's number one sin: the comments aren't funny.

Posted by: Section506 | March 25, 2009 3:50 PM
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You got that right. His schtick is about as funny as a punch in the mouth.

Posted by: Section505203 | March 25, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of the lineup. ESPN seems to be on a Nats kick with two more articles on Insider.

This one says the Nats lineup will be drastically better using sabermetrics: http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/news/story?id=4014824

This one says Adam Dunn can't hit the curve ball. Call in Jobu!: http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/news/story?id=4014824

Posted by: GoodThingHeSigned | March 25, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps spamcastin's problem is that he's put too much funny punch in his mouth.

"I like to have a martini
Two at the very most --
After three, my lines cease to by funny,
After four, I'm unable to post."

Posted by: BobLHead | March 25, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Hahaha, brilliant Bob.

So, here's a provocative thought:

If Zimmerman doesn't get his plate numbers up this year, what's the over/under on being traded to a team in need of defense but set on hitting for power and contact for his remaining arb year in exchange for a bigger bat?

After all, it was Bowden who made Zimm face of the franchise.

Posted by: Section506 | March 25, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

It's as simple as this: These comments are meant to discuss the content of the posts, not the person who wrote them. I could care less about Chico and whether ANY OF US like him. It is a disservice to all NJ readers to waste our time with off-topic posts.

Posted by: kfisher32 | March 25, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

...err, off-topic comments, that is. Now back to baseball. My money is on Adam Dunn hitting 5th by the end of the year.

Posted by: kfisher32 | March 25, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Took a look at the TV listing for this evening - Nats appear on MASN and MLB TV (nice) - and look what pops up on Comcast now... MASN HD!

Posted by: Kev29 | March 25, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Glad to see a post-WBC lineup. I was rooting against the USA to end the madness before someone got hurt. Having Dunn play out of position (1B and RF) was kind of scary. Also too many pitches for this early. WBC begone!

Posted by: SackMan | March 25, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

I nominate kfisher as Sergeant of the Off-Topic Post Police!

Now, about those sandhill cranes ...

Posted by: BobLHead | March 25, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of posts, the Bog has a couple that are Nats-related (imagine that).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | March 25, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

ROTFLMAO at all this spamcastin schtick. Sure it's lame, but who woulda thought there could be so many ways to tie food and baseball together? Maybe Chico should start sprinkling some food references into his stories from now on. Might ease the sense of shame he feels as he writes them. Some writers are driven to drink by their material. Chico could be driven to food! (Hint to Chico, though: Thom Loverro does not want to be your workout partner, so don't bother asking.)

Posted by: nunof1 | March 25, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Kfisher,

How do you feel about David Price's reassignment to AAA you comment Nazi?

:P

Posted by: RickFelt | March 25, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Lets hope the MASN HD feed doesn't still look like everyone else's standard definition feed, like it did last year.

Posted by: nunof1 | March 25, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Perhaps someone should point Chico to the Bog post titled "More Reasons Not to Hate Sports", even though it's not about the Nats.

Posted by: nunof1 | March 25, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

This site needs more regulation. It has suffered from nearly a decade of deregulation and irresponsible behavior. This problem was not created overnight and it will not be solved overnight, but it CAN be solved.

Posted by: kfisher32 | March 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Chatter has the braves lineup tonight...can't wait to make fun of masn and dibble

Posted by: theredskin | March 25, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

(wash times)

Posted by: theredskin | March 25, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Damnit, you had to go and ruin a perfectly good evening by reminding me I will have to listen to Dibble tonight. Worst offseason move by far (perhaps by ANY team).

Posted by: kfisher32 | March 25, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Hill sighting FWIW:

http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090325&content_id=4065320

"Hill threw on the side on Wednesday and will make his Padres debut on Friday following Jake Peavy in a 7:05 p.m. PT game in Phoenix against the Oakland A's."

and

"It might be a little unlikely he can help us as a starting pitcher [initially]. In the bullpen ... possibly," [Bud] Black said.

Posted by: joebleux | March 25, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

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