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Mid-Morning/Rain Delay (?) Reading

Sorry I bailed on you all yesterday; I had what I thought was a migraine and finally gave up and headed to the La-Z-Boy to recuperate. But it looks like the discussion went on nicely without me. I think this was lost in the shuffle but if you've already chewed this bone, I apologize. From Jayson Stark:

Trades that never happened, Part 1: How worried were the Angels about their rotation at the end of spring training? We know they made a run at the Reds' Aaron Harang. Now we're also hearing they talked to Washington about left-hander Scott Olsen. Names that were believed to have been kicked around included Dustin Moseley, Shane Loux and Jason Bulger, a guy who was once interim [sic] Washington GM Mike Rizzo's No. 1 pick in Arizona.
Trades that never happened, Part 2: We're also hearing that Tampa Bay made inquiries, earlier this spring, about Josh Willingham, one of the odd men out in Washington's incredibly overpopulated outfield/first-base rotation. The buzz is that the Rays dangled Jason Hammel, but the two sides never got any momentum going toward finishing off that deal.

FYI, re Obama and Monday's first pitch: We've been told all along that that was a non-starter. Marc Fisher says he'll do some more checking. I'll check with Marc Fisher about that but we don't think it's happening. And I've asked Chico to delve into it as well. (NBC-4 also says it's not happening, FYI.)

If you can bear to read another Adenhart piece, this is the one, by Bill Shaikin in the LA Times.

David O'Brien of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution has some thoughts about tonight's (rain-threatened) opener. The forecast for game time is strong storms, 66 degrees, chance of precipitation 70 percent.

Former Nat Marlon Anderson could be cut by the Mets to make way for former Nat Livan Hernandez.

The Hagerstown Suns lost their opener. Future Pirates star Pedro Danny Alvarez led Lynchburg over Potomac, 6-5. Harrisburg won its opener over Reading, 6-5, in 10 innings. Ian Desmond had two hits, including a homer. Mike O'Connor started but gave up two runs early and didn't get the decision.

Stephen Strasburg, for the season (via Brian): 6-0, 1.49 ERA, 48 1/3 innings, 27 hits, 9 runs, 8 earned runs, 10 walks, 94 strikeouts. 7-0, 1.49 ERA, 0.83 WHIP, 54 1/2 innings pitched, 11 walks, 107 strikeouts. (Damn!)

By Tracee Hamilton  |  April 10, 2009; 10:30 AM ET
 
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New posted. From the previous thread:

"Also, the Post's Marc Fisher says again today in his Raw Fisher blog that Obama is coming to the opener. Times's Zuckerman says he is definitely not. Who is right?"

Seeing as how Obama's hosting the visiting Phillies at the White House on Tuesday, it would seem to behoove him to show up at the home opener of the home team whose city he now works in.

Posted by: Hendo1 | April 10, 2009 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Tracee - It's Pedro Alvarez

Strasburg pitched last night against UNLV. Over six innings of work, he allowed just one run on seven hits while striking out thirteen and walking only one. For the season ... 7-0 1.49 ERA, 0.83 WHIP 54.1IP 107K 11BB

Posted by: Brian_ | April 10, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Thanks, Brian! Saw he MIGHT pitch Thursday but couldn't find a result. And Danny Alvarez -- wasn't he that little leaguer who lied about his age? Or am I imagining that, too? :)

Posted by: traceeh | April 10, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Tracee, rushfari mentioned last thread that there was a meeting between Willingham, Kasten and Rizzo because Willingham is unhappy. rushfari didn't give a source for that, and I've done a Google search and can't find anything about it. Can you do some digging and find out what the deal is with this?

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Danny Almonte. Third time's a charm.

Posted by: traceeh | April 10, 2009 10:59 AM | Report abuse

Both ESPN and MLB.com have covered that meeting. It seemed amicable the way Willigham described it.

Posted by: soundbloke | April 10, 2009 11:06 AM | Report abuse

Smiley Gonzalez' real name has Daniel and Alvarez in it.

Posted by: Brian_ | April 10, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse

Milledge claims he wasn't at fault for the Bonafacio gate because he followed the scouting report to play shallow (good point) but he also laid out for both of them. Right Lastings. Thrashing around on the turf was the difference between an extra base.

Posted by: soundbloke | April 10, 2009 11:09 AM | Report abuse

soundbloke, can you give a link? Nothing shows on Google search. Also, was the meeting recent or before the season? rushfari hints at a recent meeting with unhappy Willingham.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Now the type on my monitor's all blurry, but you did give fair warning, Tracee. That was just a beautiful piece by Shaikin. My heart goes out to the young man's family and friends.

On a more quotidian note, thanks for brightening up the NJ with your posts. I enjoy the readings and also appreciate the updates on former Nats and our minor leagues.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

God I wish they could trade Olsen.

Posted by: Zornado | April 10, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

If the Angels and the rest of Major League Baseball want to do something to appropriately respond to Adenhart's death, I have a suggestion:

Go beyond the ritual moment of silence and, for one night, completely stop the sale of alcoholic beverages at all major league ballparks.

Let me be clear: I have no problem with alcohol sales at ballparks and I think Prohibition was (and is) idiotic.

The point here is to make a strong statement about drunk driving, which is what killed Adenhart. It would be an attention-getter.

Posted by: Meridian1 | April 10, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

Excellent suggestion, Meridian.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 11:20 AM | Report abuse

It's on Nats.com

http://tinyurl.com/cwe97f

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soundbloke, can you give a link? Nothing shows on Google search. Also, was the meeting recent or before the season? rushfari hints at a recent meeting with unhappy Willingham.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: RicketyCricket | April 10, 2009 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Zornado:

his fatball is 85-86; who wants him? also, he's a taser-attracting, head case, mama's boy. who needs that in the clubhouse?

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Alcohol has already been banned in Toronto for three games based on problems with drunk fans disrupting their opener. Booze banned in clubhouses as well as in the stands. But it was the Canadian govt authorities that did it, not the Jays or MLB.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

Looks like the Willingham meeting was not as dire as rushfari made it sound. Thanks.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

in toronto, the liquor license was temporarily pulled after an accumulation of violations, the last involving debris and baseballs thrown at an outfielder, late innings, opening day. cut off the beer by inning six? drunk driving, baseball fans are drinking in the eighth and ninth?

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

meridian, wow. that would be an impressive gesture.

soundbloke, i lost it on your "thrashing around on the turf" post. the visual and the snark were spot on hilarious.


Posted by: NatsNut | April 10, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

lastings mendoza walk-off pinch runs like the wind tonight, and derek lowe loses a pitchers' duel to lannan?


naaahhhhhh.

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

People keep complaining about Olsen having lost velocity on his fastball. Maybe he has. But according to St. Claire, his problem the other day was that his fastball and changeup were too close together in speed. That makes sense. I'm no pitcher, but it seems to me that if Olsen can't get his fastball back up to speed he could rectify the problem by learning how to take something off his changeup. Think St. Claire is working with him on doing that?

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

"thrashing around" sounds like a sizeable. fish or shark, landed, in the boat, but not yet subdued.

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

Apropos of nothing, I post this link on the new Texas Rangers pitching program. As someone who has posted before on my frustration with the way pitchers are babied, it was music to my ears. I think Nolan Ryan is on to something. I hope it works. I used to have my pitchers play long toss out to 250 feet almost every day. It's the only way to build arm strength. Nolan Ryan certainly has a heckuva a lot more credibility than I do.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/news/2009/267871.html

#4

Posted by: db423 | April 10, 2009 11:37 AM | Report abuse

lastings mendoza walk-off pinch runs like the wind tonight, and derek lowe loses a pitchers' duel to lannan?


naaahhhhhh.

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Of course not. Martis starts tonight.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

So Buster Olney makes the same case for the current starting OF as several of us did yesterday. Done and done for now.

Jayson Stark says we considered trading Olsen and Willingham for one of several journeyman AAAA starters. Strange.

Ladson argues for an outfield of Dunn, Maxwell and Bernadina on the grounds that "the kids are ready." Ummm, Dukes and Milledge are both younger than J-Max and Bernie, Bill! I love Maxwell though.

Posted by: BobLHead | April 10, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

what a solution, dccapsfan; let major league hitters swing and miss at slow fastballs. his slider (hanging) has lost its velocity as well; the slider was his best pitch by far.

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:39 AM | Report abuse

is it possible that the internet is going to lessen the influence of tv powers over the game schedulers and times? more day games in the future? it seems off topic but it occurred to me while responding that drunk driving seems to be more of a night time phenomenon. for a host of reasons i'm sure but still. last call would make more sense by the clock than by the inning.

Posted by: longterm | April 10, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

Slow pitching seems to work for Jamie Moyer. Maybe if Olsen wants to salvage his career he might need to try stuff like that.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:44 AM | Report abuse

lastings mendoza walk-off pinch runs like the wind tonight, and derek lowe loses a pitchers' duel to martis?

i stand corrected; it's lowe who is 3-man rotating this week, with three starts in 10 days. what a horse this guy is, mr ground-ball pitcher incarnate. 0 walks for lowe, we had 10 last game. can we get 4-5 walks off him, with our deep in the count hitters?

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

moyer has a dozen 'pitches.' does BoboOlsen even throw a curveball?

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

DCCapsfan: Moyer is something of an extreme case, and it took him several years in the wildnerness before reemerging.

I was skeptical about the blog posts about Olsen's loss of velocity in the offseason, but if he can't bring it more than 85-86 mph, he simply won't survive.

Posted by: JhonnyBheGhood | April 10, 2009 11:48 AM | Report abuse

I asked Chico about the Willingham meeting and he said it was the usual start-of-the-season meeting with Rizzo; nothing unusual about it.

Posted by: traceeh | April 10, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

So if Moyer gets several years to re-learn and re-emerge, why can't Olsen do that? Is it because he smokes?

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Tracee/Chico, does every player automatically get the usual start-of-the-season meeting with Rizzo, or do they have to request it? Is it part of some "Performance Management Process" like we working stiffs have to go through at the office every year?

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Well, he could. But if he did, it probably wouldn't be under St. Claire or in the Nats system, and looking that far ahead is pretty irrelevant for our purposes.

I hold out that whatever is holding back his velocity is a mechanical thing. I still don't really criticize the trade in principle, and I hope Olsen can succeed.

Posted by: JhonnyBheGhood | April 10, 2009 11:56 AM | Report abuse

Partially, but he's not the brightest bulb in the drawer, either (mixed metaphor madness).

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

Jhonny:

PED thing?

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

dccapsfan, i think there's no there there.

Posted by: NatsNut | April 10, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Shawn Hill starting tonight versus Giants and Barry Zito. Didn't he used to pitch for us?

Posted by: kfisher32 | April 10, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

Scott Olsen’s K/9
2005: 9.30
2006: 8.27
2007: 6.78
2008: 5.04

Much-discussed over the off-season. PEDs stopped two seasons ago? Where are we going here with BoBo? Could the Saint taser him before he takes the mound?

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

I really have no idea re: PEDs, Nova. Wouldn't be my first thought, though.

Posted by: JhonnyBheGhood | April 10, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

Sorry if I made the Willingham / Rizzo meeting seem darker than it was. That said, based on past experience, just because everyone came out saying the "right thing" doesn't mean that everyone is happy and the status quo is going to be maintained.

I mean, what could Willngham have heard that would have placated him to the point that he said, "Oh, I'm fine now."

If they said, "Sorry Josh, you're going to get 300 at-bats this season," he wouldn't have come out smiling.

I think they assured him in some way that the 1B/OF logjam was going to break soon, be it him being traded or that Lastings Milledge or Austin Kearns or Nick Johnson was being shipped out of town.

Posted by: rushfari | April 10, 2009 12:22 PM | Report abuse

rushfari, hasn't Rizzo been quoted recently saying that they're not actively shopping anyone right now, that they will wait til either the trade deadline or until some team has needs open up due to injury? Seems to me that this OF thing is a competition, just like Rizzo said all along it would be. The only problem with that is that Kearns is doing better than expected, Milledge is worse than expected, and Willingham can't play CF. He's the odd man out until something changes there.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

re: Wind. Here is what Rotoworld said...

"Jordan Zimmermmann yielded three runs in 5 1/3 innings Thursday in his Triple-A start for Syracuse.

Two of the four hits he allowed in the contest went for homers, but that might have had something to do with a 14-mph wind out to center field. Zimmermann will make one more start for Syracuse before joining the Nationals' rotation on April 19."

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"Two of the four hits he allowed in the contest went for homers, but that might have had something to do with a 14-mph wind out to center field."

That's good, right? It will get him used to the artificial equivalent wind effect of having Milledge behind him in CF.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

If what Stark reported about a Willingham deal is true, then I've got one more reason to be furious with the front office of this team. We're carrying 5 outfielders on the active roster (with Harris technically counting as 5 and a half). You need FOUR. Thats it. With Harris' flexibility we technically could carry three and get an extra arm or a good bat on the bench.

Instead, we sit and give up the opportunity to get a starter to replace one of the idiots we have in our current rotation. The name thrown around by Tampa was a great starting prospect, not some middling AAAA guy, by the way. Certainly a better option than Olsen or Cabrera. And certainly someone that would have been valuable to provide competition to Martis and JZimmerman.

Posted by: tboss | April 10, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

I just got a call from Zimmerman, MN.

I think it's a sign. Zimm goes yard in the first inning tonight.

Posted by: JohninMpls | April 10, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Gotta say, I LOVE the logic train of "Olsen's reportedly a jerk + k/9 declined precipitously = PED use ending" Plausible alternative explanation, you ask? How about simple overuse? Olsen was pegged by Verducci in '06 as a "Year-after effect" candidate - he increased his workload in '06 by 56 IP over his previous career high in '04, and by 86 IP from '05. His K/9 dropped and he added 1.8 to his ERA in '07. Last year, he did a little better on ERA, but his K/9 declined again. He may never again have that low-90s stuff - he may have to adjust to being a more "crafty" lefty, like for instance by taking some off of his change. Thing is, though, if he can just duplicate his '08 - 200IP of 4.20 ERA, we'll take that from him 10 times out of 10.

Posted by: Highway295Revisited | April 10, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

I don't know, tboss, Hammel eventually fetched only Colorado's 16th-rated prospect, a 21-year old AA pitcher named Aneury Rodriguez. Hammel himself was once regarded as a potential middle-of-the-rotation starter, but he turns 27 this year and sports a 5.90 ERA in 28 MLB starts over the past three seasons. It's pretty hard to argue that he compares favorably to Olsen and Cabrera at this point.

Posted by: BobLHead | April 10, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

I've never seen him pitch, but his peripherals don't look good at all. Look at the WHIP...yikes.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=4074

I think we could do better than that for Willingham. The Rangers have Marlon Byrd starting in LF and a great farm system. There's always the chance a Yankee OF will disintegrate.

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"How about simple overuse? Olsen was pegged by Verducci in '06 as a "Year-after effect" candidate"

I agree. Girardi ran those guys ragged in '06.

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

And, as usual, I agree with 295. Yes, Olsen's fastball has slowed and his k-rate has dropped accordingly. However, his walk rate has also dropped, and his WHIP and ERA last year were about the same as they were in 2006 when he was a ROY candidate. So, while the drop in velocity and strikeouts may be a concern, these factors are not necessarily evidence of a precipitous decline; evidently he has already found ways of compensating and remaining effective. Besides, the dude is all of 25, let's cut him some slack.

Posted by: BobLHead | April 10, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

It seems like lots of pitchers are struggling now. Typically, pitchers suffer through some sort of "dead-arm" period several weeks into the season. I wonder if this was accelerated due to the longer Spring Training.

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Real Baseball Intelligence (RBI), a leading resource in the evaluation of amateur baseball talent and draft coverage, has ranked Stephen Strasburg the #3 prospect in the 2009 MLB Draft. View his free scouting report (with video) at withthefirstpick.net/stephen-strasburg

Posted by: bhyman1 | April 10, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

My concern with Olsen is that he never had a "live arm period". He's been fairly bad all year and explained it away during Spring Training as saying he was right where he wanted to be and just threw a few bad pitches here and there. I like his confidence, but so far I don't like his stuff.

Posted by: DoctorJoe | April 10, 2009 2:09 PM | Report abuse

thanks bhyman1. I am forever optimistic and wish we could fast-forward to the draft. I HOPE, the Nats will choose a position player with the 9a pick though.

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 2:38 PM | Report abuse

What are the chances of a Sunday doubleheader if the game tonight is postponed?

Posted by: JohninMpls | April 10, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Not sure what the connection to Strasburg may be, but FWIW bhyman seems to post that tidbit every so often.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 2:53 PM | Report abuse

Not saying that there is a connection necessarily but just saying.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 2:54 PM | Report abuse

Anybody see the scoreboard from last night's Chiefs game (and Zimmermann's loss)? Noticed this:

Syracuse Bottom 2nd:
Kory Casto doubles (1) on a line drive to left fielder Dustin Martin.

Syracuse Bottom 4th:
Kory Casto homers (1) on a fly ball to right center field. Ryan Langerhans scores.

Syracuse Bottom 5th:
Kory Casto singles on a ground ball to left fielder Dustin Martin. Alex Cintron scores. Ryan Langerhans to 3rd.

Syracuse Bottom 8th:
Kory Casto singles on a line drive to center fielder Jason Pridie.

Four for four, against three different pitchers. Is it always going to be like this - overwhelming in Triple-A, mediocre (or worse) in the majors?

Posted by: MikeH0714 | April 10, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Times backing off earlier Obama story...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/10/president-throw-first-pitch/

Posted by: traceeh | April 10, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

Just got in too late to heads up y'all on Super Willie appearing on WTEM... They might put the interview (not really all that, but still) on their "audio vault" page (they have the one they did earlier today with Hanrahan up now (http://www.espn980.com/audiovault/)...

I believe that they will have Stan on today at 4:20ish (no sure exactly, but sometime during the 4-7 show - and I'll guess earlier rather than later).

Posted by: OldDude | April 10, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

"What are the chances of a Sunday doubleheader if the game tonight is postponed?

Posted by: JohninMpls "

Sunday is getaway day, so if they do a day-night doubleheader it would be more likely on Saturday. Or there may be an off day for both teams before or after one of the other series in ATL later this summer and they could stick a makeup game in there. Or they could schedule a day-night later in the season. Most likely, unless it's a total monsoon they will try to get the game in tonight. That's what MLB does these days.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"Times backing off earlier Obama story...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/10/president-throw-first-pitch/

Posted by: traceeh"

Is the Post backing on to its original Marc Fisher story then, the one you backed off of earlier, Tracee? We have two newspapers in this town, which one can we believe? Or which one can we believe that won't change its mind in the next two minutes?

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

I believe that they will have Stan on today at 4:20ish (no sure exactly, but sometime during the 4-7 show - and I'll guess earlier rather than later).

Posted by: OldDude | April 10, 2009 3:08 PM | Report abuse

4:20 seems like the most appropriate time to listen to Stan. Stoned is probably the best way listen to him...

Posted by: TimDz | April 10, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

Old Dude, I think I heard 4:25 for Philly Cheese StanK on ESPN980 this afternoon. Probably worth tuning in at 4:20 just in case though.

Posted by: BobLHead | April 10, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Nats320 now reporting that Obama is definitely NOT coming.

http://nats320.blogspot.com/2009/04/definitely-not-coming.html

He claims to have talked with the White House press office to verify this. Gee, don't the Post and the Times have any contacts there?

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

We were told weeks ago he wasn't coming. Neither Nats Journal nor the Sports section ever said he was. (He WAS invited.) When Marc wrote that he was, I was as surprised as anyone, but I greatly respect Marc's work so I asked him about it to make sure he hadn't gotten some better information. He hadn't, and he posted this on his blog:

Thanks, all, for the questions on the presidential first ball bit--I've checked back and found that the earlier word that it would be happening is now very much not confirmed and indeed not likely, so I've pulled that reference from above.

(Tracee here again.) I also asked Chico to doublecheck when he gets to the park this afternoon, but in the meantime, the Times retracted its story, and I passed that along.

Posted by: traceeh | April 10, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

Hagerstown Suns (Nick considered Hagerstown his home) should retire his number 34.

Posted by: AnonymousSources | April 10, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

Thing is, though, if he can just duplicate his '08 - 200IP of 4.20 ERA, we'll take that from him 10 times out of 10.

Posted by: Highway295Revisited | April 10, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

*************************************

"In 2008, Olsen went back to throwing his changeup more often, but the results were not much better. Sure, his 4.20 ERA seems like a dramatic improvement over his 5.81 showing the previous year, but that “improvement” is built upon a house of cards. Olsen was the beneficiary of a very low .266 BABIP, and his FIP ERA was still an ugly 5.02."

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/what-happened-to-scott-olsen/

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

That's okay, Tracee. There's only one idiot poster here who thinks it's important for journalists to get things right before they publish, and he's apparently taking the day off today.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

sure nunof1, sure. AKA A bigBM

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

Or using another moniker.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

"Nats320 now reporting that Obama is definitely NOT coming."

My guess is Obama doesn't want to show up DCabrera by throwing a first-pitch strike.

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Since multiple things have been reported, perhaps to the point of confusion...

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When the Nationals open their home season on Monday, President Obama will NOT be a part of the festivities. The Nationals have a standing invitation for the president to throw out the first pitch on Opening Day, but Obama, according to the White House, does not plan to attend.

Posted by: chicoharlan | April 10, 2009 3:58 PM | Report abuse

Y'know, they should get Bill Nye to come throw out the first pitch...

Posted by: OldDude | April 10, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

To add to the confusion/speculation ;-), the team site says that David Gregory will host the pregame festivities, so maybe he'd be a possible backup hurler? Bill Nye would be cool, though. Both are Nats fans per prior Bog posts.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Or maybe a representative of Tim Russert's family?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Michelle will throw out the first pitch.

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

"Sunday is getaway day, so if they do a day-night doubleheader it would be more likely on Saturday. Or there may be an off day for both teams before or after one of the other series in ATL later this summer and they could stick a makeup game in there. Or they could schedule a day-night later in the season. Most likely, unless it's a total monsoon they will try to get the game in tonight. That's what MLB does these days."

If tonight's game is rained out, and no double-header tomorrow or Sunday, then will they skip Martis and go Lannan tomorrow as planned? Or bump everyone back a day? It would have ramifications on Z'mann's debut, pushing it from 4/19 to 4/20.

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The dog will throw out the first pitch.

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Skipping Martis would be good; too much on his shoulders against Lowe. Lowe was on the 3-guy rotation deal anyway, so it could be Lannan & Lowe. A smash hit musical?

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Obama a southpaw?

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

arf, nova.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

On a more serious note (and if you want to be even sadder), the Bog has a post and link to an Adenhart article from years ago.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Dunn and Kearns a combined 3 for 29 against Lowe.

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Sadder about Adenhart, I meant.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

The Rays backed themselves into a corner by having to decide between two guys with no options left, so they end up taking lesser talents.

My beef is that the "talks went nowhere." Really? Why did the talks go nowhere, when it came to relieving a known issue on this team? Was this yet another example of Bowden's arrogance and ego while dealing with other GMs skuppering a deal? I guess we'll never know.

Fact is that Tampa had an extra starter, we had an extra outfielder, and both teams could have used a deal.

Posted by: tboss | April 10, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

This had all the potential of earning Post of the Day honors.

However, given Lannan's inability to throw first-pitch strikes on Monday and Olsen's inability to get ahead in the count on Tuesday, I'm going to give it Honorable Mention.

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My guess is Obama doesn't want to show up DCabrera by throwing a first-pitch strike.

Posted by: JohninMpls | April 10, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

You can vote who you think is throwing out the first pitch on Monday at
http://natsnewsnetwork.blogspot.com/

Posted by: baseballphotosbycheryl | April 10, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

That's a much better question than the one I asked.

As to a makeup day, they could just tack it on to the end of the season. The Nats will be in Atlanta for a four game set anyway.

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If tonight's game is rained out, and no double-header tomorrow or Sunday, then will they skip Martis and go Lannan tomorrow as planned? Or bump everyone back a day? It would have ramifications on Z'mann's debut, pushing it from 4/19 to 4/20.

Posted by: JohninMpls | April 10, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

did you all see joe martinez get hit in the head last night? mlb has had the video removed with a copyright claim, but here is a link to several black and white views of it. look at it fast before mlb takes it down and be sure to read the first-person accounts as well (teammates, opponents).

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=%22joe%20martinez%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&tab=nv#q=%22joe+martinez%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&tab=nv&st=week

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

"If tonight's game is rained out, and no double-header tomorrow or Sunday, then will they skip Martis and go Lannan tomorrow as planned? Or bump everyone back a day? It would have ramifications on Z'mann's debut, pushing it from 4/19 to 4/20."

I would think they would just stick with the rotation, skipping everyone a day, seeing as how Martis is there and if they skip him it would be almost two weeks since his last start in the exhib game before he pitched again. That's not good. If they skipped him, they'd still probably have him throw a simulated game over the weekend to stay in cycle. So why not just have him throw a real game and give everyone else one extra day of rest? At the end of the season, of course, they might possibly do things differently.

And personally, I'd like it if Zimm's first start slips to 4/20, 'cause then I can go to the game!

Posted by: RickDotSalt | April 10, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

That's okay, Tracee. There's only one idiot poster here who thinks it's important for journalists to get things right before they publish, and he's apparently taking the day off today.

Posted by: DCCapsFan | April 10, 2009 3:38 PM


Or using another moniker.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 10, 2009 3:46 PM
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I mean, is this guy for real? Do you really expect us to believe that DCCapsFan is not Nunof1/RDS/ABM/Shockinglackofbaseballknowledge/etc.

Are kidding me? The Jig is up fella. You ain't foolin' nobody but, maybe yourself.


Posted by: Section505203 | April 10, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

also, spamcastin. can't tell the players without a scorecard.

Posted by: nova_g_man | April 10, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'd be okay with FLOTUS throwing out the first pitch if POTUS is too busy. She'd still be less wild than Cabrera - although probably wilder than Hanrahan. Barely.

Posted by: RickDotSalt | April 10, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

505,
You have now made his life more complicated. In an effort to prove he can be in 2 places at once, he will have to login as one, post, quickly logoff and on again, post again. But also think of 2 clever things to post with little time...

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I say bring Jimbo back to throw out the first pitch. Bang, Zoom, Go the fireworks!!!

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Sorry to multipost, but looking at the schedule, it doesn't matter if they skip Martis or not, Z'mann has to pitch on the 19th. Whoever goes on the 15th (whether Martis or DC) will not be able to go again on the 19th.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/teams/schedule?team=was

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Pray for two days of rain then, like the old days of Spahn and Sain.

Posted by: RickDotSalt | April 10, 2009 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Good catch Nova, thanks for having my back.

Posted by: Section505203 | April 10, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

"Sure, his 4.20 ERA seems like a dramatic improvement over his 5.81 showing the previous year, but that “improvement” is built upon a house of cards."

Yeah, I didn't say it wasn't luck - what I said was "if he can reproduce it, we'd take it 10 times out of 10." Heck, the way the staff has looked so far, we'd even take 200 IP of 4.8 ERA 8 times out 10. Somebody who is older than 22 needs to eat innings, even if they are crappy innings, so that Zimm and Martis don't destroy their arms in games that don't matter. Such is the life of a non-contending team.

Happy weekend, folks.

Posted by: Highway295Revisited | April 10, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

505,
You have now made his life more complicated. In an effort to prove he can be in 2 places at once, he will have to login as one, post, quickly logoff and on again, post again. But also think of 2 clever things to post with little time...

Posted by: dclifer | April 10, 2009 4:54 PM
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That was not my plan but, now that you mention it, that is an added bonus.

Funny how he is totaling ignoring the fact that multiple people have called him out.


Posted by: Section505203 | April 10, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Givin' it up to Jackie 42!
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthisday/big/0410.html

Posted by: TheSpaldingMachine | April 10, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

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