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Busted Steroids Dealer Says He Sold To Nats, Caps

A Florida man at the center of a massive steroid bust has told law enforcement officials that he sold performance-enhancing drugs to pro athletes, including those on the Washington Nationals and Washington Capitals, according to this report. Investigators remain uncertain whether these claims are true. The alleged steroid distributor, Richard Thomas, did not provide specific names of athletes.

We will be updating this story throughout the day.

For more on this, read here.

By Chico Harlan  |  May 27, 2009; 10:21 AM ET
 
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This explains Mike Rizzo's comments on the releases of Cabrera and Shell. Roid rage. He's juicing, Manny Acta obviously isn't.

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 10:32 AM | Report abuse

IF (remote chance) Zimmerman/Guzman/Dukes or Ovechkin/Backstrom/Semin are named, I'm done with these teams.

Posted by: thisismydcsportsopinion | May 27, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

> When Steven Shell was DFA'd, Rizzo criticized Shell's "mindset," "preparation," and "aura."

Too bad his aura was screwed up. Otherwise the Yankees might have been interested in him. Although they probably would have inquired about his mystique too.

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

Hoping the whole WaPo staff is all over this one.

How bizarre is it that the two Washington teams are called out, but no one else? Whassupwitdat?

Posted by: joemktg2 | May 27, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse

"IF (remote chance) Zimmerman/Guzman/Dukes or Ovechkin/Backstrom/Semin are named, I'm done with these teams."

But you're okay with Nook Logan, Paul LoDuca and Mike Stanton being named in the Mitchell Report? What kind of frontrunning hypocrite are you, anyway?

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Let me be the first to call bull on this guy. Hockey players are tested for both the Worlds and Olympics hockey events. Hockey players do not benefit from becoming bigger and stronger. It is a sport for the quick and skilled.

As for the Nats, based on their 2008 stats and injuries, they were not getting the good stuff if this is true.

Based on the records, maybe Abe is on the juice. He dominated last years Presidents Races and has a comfortable lead this year.

Posted by: Batboy05 | May 27, 2009 10:38 AM | Report abuse

Any ideas WHEN he dealt to players on these teams? I'd think recently, since he was busted with evidence IN house. WaPo, take the lead.

Posted by: AnonymousSources | May 27, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

My crystal ball just predicted this as DCab's future ->

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=3071

Posted by: dclifer97 | May 27, 2009 10:40 AM | Report abuse

"Let me be the first to call bull on this guy. Hockey players are tested for both the Worlds and Olympics hockey events. Hockey players do not benefit from becoming bigger and stronger. It is a sport for the quick and skilled."

I am quite skeptical of the guy too, but it should be noted that pitchers are also not noted for their brute strength. (Neither was Nook Logan) Adding bulk is not the only benefit of steroids. I'm sure someone out there has figured out a way to use some kind of chemical to enhance a hockey player's performance.

Posted by: Section406 | May 27, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

"Hockey players do not benefit from becoming bigger and stronger. It is a sport for the quick and skilled."

--- Yeah, no need for amphetamines and other PEDs in hockey. No need to "get up" for games. Common, open your eyes.


"As for the Nats, based on their 2008 stats and injuries, they were not getting the good stuff if this is true."

--- I'm beginning to think baseball is like cycling...everyone is using.

Posted by: dclifer97 | May 27, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Chico,
Does anyone know if Randy Thomas, the alledged steroid dealer is related to Dr. Bruce Thomas, who was the team physician when the club was in Montreal and I believe still has an affiliation with the club. I believe Dr. Bruce Thomas serves as the Nats spring training Dr. and has Offices and residences in Florida.

Posted by: aia8 | May 27, 2009 10:43 AM | Report abuse

This guy, Richard Thomas, sounds like a regular Jose Canseco.

Posted by: dclifer97 | May 27, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

"This guy, Richard Thomas, sounds like a regular Jose Canseco."

What do you mean by that? Everything Canseco has said came out to be true.

If what he says turns out to be true, I don't believe there are any current Nats on this. I'm assuming he's talking about guys we have known about - Guillen, LoDuca, Wilkerson? etc.

Posted by: brothbart | May 27, 2009 10:51 AM | Report abuse

How often are teams 20 games under .500 in May? Serious question and I'm too lazy to do any research.

Posted by: RickFelt | May 27, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

We're so bad that we try and cheat and STILL suck?! I'm almost impressed...

Posted by: cheeseburger53 | May 27, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ge-fullcount052609&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The New York Mets retain keen interest in Washington Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson(notes), to the point where the Nationals have scouts watching the Mets’ Triple-A team in Buffalo, N.Y., and Double-A team in Binghamton, N.Y., evaluating pitchers Jon Niese, Mike Antonini and Eddie Kunz(notes) among others.

The Mets need a first baseman because Carlos Delgado(notes) could be out for two months after hip surgery.

The linchpin to the potential deal from Washington’s perspective may be Bobby Parnell(notes), a 6-4, 200-pound right-hander who came out of the Mets’ bullpen Friday night in Fenway Park and hit 100 mph on the radar gun.

Posted by: dclifer97 | May 27, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

"IF (remote chance) Zimmerman/Guzman/Dukes or Ovechkin/Backstrom/Semin are named, I'm done with these teams."

But you're okay with Nook Logan, Paul LoDuca and Mike Stanton being named in the Mitchell Report? What kind of frontrunning hypocrite are you, anyway?

Wait, so actually liking certain players on the respective teams makes me a hypocrite. Yeah okay.

- Logan was claimed to purchase HGH in 2005 and by his on field play and at bats, didn't have any potential with the Nats;
- LoDuca was signed by the Nats 3 DAYS BEFORE the Mitchell Report was released;
- Stanton was claimed to purchase HGH back in 2003, 2 years prior to joining the Nats.

Posted by: thisismydcsportsopinion | May 27, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Nationals (notes) would be stupid (notes) to trade Nick Johnson (notes) within the division (notes). Unless of course they can convince the Mets (notes) to take Lastings Milledge (All Star) back along with him.

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse

"What do you mean by that?"

1. Toting guns
2. Ego: he said he is the biggest steroid provider in Central Florida. What did Canseco call himself?
3. Will spill the beans to anyone who will listen
4. As you pointed out, he's probably telling the truth.

Posted by: dclifer97 | May 27, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"How often are teams 20 games under .500 in May? Serious question and I'm too lazy to do any research."

Don't know, but the '62 Mets were 12-30 through 5/31, a .285 WP.

Posted by: joemktg2 | May 27, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

"Wait, so actually liking certain players on the respective teams makes me a hypocrite. Yeah okay."

So you're okay with players on your teams using steroids, just as long as they're not players you happen to like? Oh-kay. That's kind of like being a vegetarian who eats fish, isn't it?

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

nunof, how many times do I have to point out that (1) the Nats continually trade with the Mets and (2) it doesn't matter if we trade within our division. What's going to happen? NJ punishes us in a head-to-head and our record gets even suckier? Besides, NJ is a free-agent after this season so the odds that he'll stay with the Mets are 1 in 30.

Posted by: dclifer97 | May 27, 2009 11:05 AM | Report abuse

Any public speculation of names is just reckless even to write "what ifs?".

These suppliers generally throw out generalities in hopes of getting a plea for lesser charges and maybe they get a big fish.

MLB is testing so we would hope all "current" Nationals are smart enough to steer clear and no current players have had prior issues.

Now then, the Washington Capitals as far as I know do not have a testing program so this hits unchartered waters if true.

Let's hope this has no merit and goes away quickly!

Posted by: dmacman88 | May 27, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

Nunof1 - you can't kill a corpse. The Nationals are dead this year in the division, so any trade in the division cannot hurt their competiveness this year. Nick is a free agent next year. Anything in trade we get for him that is better than what you'd get for a type B free agent (discounted for the uncertainty he'll even be a type B) is a net plus for the organization long term. We would then be able to play Willingham every day, and create space to play the assorted Maxwells and Bernardinas when we move other pieces. Finally, I'd love to take away the Mets best pieces for the future to improve our competitiveness with them. If it is Parnell, and Parnell alone, it is a good deal.

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | May 27, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

The Nats aren't competitive in the entire Major League, let alone within their division. I say trade with whomever gives you the best deal.

Posted by: bendersx6 | May 27, 2009 11:28 AM | Report abuse

the nats COULDN'T be involved, steroids are supposed to ENHANCE athletic perfomance.

Posted by: surly_w | May 27, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Personally, I hope they keep Nick Johnson and sign him to an extension. Adam Dunn is not a first baseman, now or in the future. And the value of Johnson batting in front of Zimmerman cannot be overestimated.

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

Steroids don't build strength. That's such a common misconception, more or less.

Sure, if any of us couch potatoes took them and lived our sedentary lives, we'd have slightly more muscle than if we didn't. But it's basically a minor amount.

What steroids do is allow the body to recover from minor aches/strains/sprains, etc. Which in turn allows athletes to work out harder, to train longer, etc.

For someone like Bonds or Clemens -- who were already workout fiends -- it allows them to go even further than they normally would.

But many of the busted were relievers. It's likely the steroids helped them recover between outings better, allowing them to pitch more effectively than normal.

For a hockey player, given all the strain on their bodies, taking steroids could be especially beneficial.

Posted by: Uncle_Teddy | May 27, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Good grief- what if it turns out to be Dunn? Just about every other big HR player has been busted.

Posted by: thegraneys | May 27, 2009 11:35 AM | Report abuse

>"How often are teams 20 games under .500 in May? Serious question and I'm too lazy to do any research."

Don't know, but the '62 Mets were 12-30 through 5/31, a .285 WP.

The '62 Mets. Jesus Christ

Posted by: Brue | May 27, 2009 11:45 AM | Report abuse

"Performance enhancing drugs"....to the Nats?? Um, they're not working!

Posted by: mvm2 | May 27, 2009 11:47 AM | Report abuse

It's not just the one year you worry about when trading within the division, it's the next 5. Why would you want to trade a guy who's going to knock your head in 19 times a year for the next 5 years.

The 62 Mets finished with only 40 wins. I'm not sure the Nats are that good.

Posted by: natsguy | May 27, 2009 11:57 AM | Report abuse

That's messed up, and ironic. Hope it turns out to be false information.

Posted by: PattyinSJ | May 27, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, what next? I don't even care about tempting fate anymore.

Posted by: JohninMpls | May 27, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

I think I'm going to boycot this story until something substantive comes out of it - which is to say I'm likely good for 12 months or so.

On the baseball front, I really like the Stammen kid. He got rocked for 3 overall pitched pretty well. He's probably not going to be a star, but he'll likely be a league average #4 or #5 starter.

Umpiring has been awful this week.

Posted by: natbiscuits | May 27, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

On a completely different note, SteinBog just ran a piece on Tracee Hamilton, who's new gig for the WaPo is as a columnist. Does that mean somebody else will be feeding us our morning fish?

Posted by: BinM | May 27, 2009 12:17 PM | Report abuse

A buddy of mine pitched Single A once upon a time and he says that, for pitchers at least, that using steroids is to help with recovery and that much of the benefit is mental.

Posted by: derwink | May 27, 2009 12:18 PM | Report abuse

"It's not just the one year you worry about when trading within the division, it's the next 5. Why would you want to trade a guy who's going to knock your head in 19 times a year for the next 5 years."
--> NJ is a free agent after this season, so it's up in the air if he's going to stay in the NL East. Isn't he from SoCal?

"The 62 Mets finished with only 40 wins. I'm not sure the Nats are that good."
--> Statistically, they are that good. Trade away NJ and Guzman, and then you're wholly in the toilet.

Hate to see NJ go, but he's gone after this season anyway, so hoping the Nats pick up more starting pitching. That, plus two 1st round pitchers, equals lots of trade possibilities during the off-season where the Nats have pitchers available to improve their bullpen, lineup and defense.

Posted by: joemktg2 | May 27, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

I agree with nunof1. They should just go ahead and sign Johnson now before things get out of hand.

I suspect the pitching problems may be resolved when they DFA current management, then with new management and this year's draft picks begin to percolate up to the bigs.


Posted by: periculum | May 27, 2009 12:46 PM | Report abuse

"How often are teams 20 games under .500 in May? Serious question and I'm too lazy to do any research."

Worst records on May 27th for the last 10 years:

2008: Padres 20-33 .377; finished 63-99
2007: Reds 18-33 .353; finished 72-90
2006: Royals 11-36 .234 [We have a Winner!; they finished the year at 62-100, not even worst in the league, believe it or not.]
2005: Royals 13-35 .271; finished 56-106 [Two years in a row...outstanding!]
2004: Montreal 15-31 .326; finished 67-95
2003: Tigers 13-37 .260; finished 43-119 [Another Winner!]
And for a Bonus, the Padres in 2003 were at 14-38, .269, (finished 64-98) so we have Double Winners in 2003!]
2002: Brewers 17-34 .333; finished 56-106
2001: Devil Rays 14-35 .286; finished 62-100 [And another.]
2000: Devil Rays 15-32 .319; finished 69-94
1999: Marlins 15-32 .319; finished 64-98


So, perhaps not as unusual as one might think; 5 times in the past 10 years.

Posted by: PetworthDC | May 27, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

addressing several above comments on steroids:


there are many kinds of steroids, with many effects (many un-researched).

they do not just provide better recovery or allow for longer workouts.

why would barry bonds' head expand if that were the case?

some do lead to increased muscle mass also. in conjunction with strength training.

i had a friend of a friend who went to pitch in AA. pitchers were using steroids, not for bulking up, but to increase reaction time. even a half-second could have an impact. that was early 90's! ("steroid era" didn't begin in mid 90s, they were well available at my high school in mid 80s, sheesh).

Posted by: malcolmyoung1 | May 27, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

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