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Nats With Ties To PEDs

This is just for some context, but here is a list of former/current Washington players with ties to performance-enhancing drugs.

Jose Guillen: Nats outfielder from 2005-2007, now with Kansas City. San Francisco Chronicle reported he made $20,000 worth of HGH and steroids purchases from that Palm Beach Rejuvenation Center that was at the center of the Albany, N.Y. probe. In Dec. 2007 he was suspended for 15 games at the start of the 2008 season under MLB's performance-enhancing drug policy. The suspension was in line with what second-time offenders would have received under the 2003-04 policy (which was not as strict as now).

Paul Lo Duca: Nats catcher for part of 2008. Named in Mitchell report, with heavy involvement with Kirk Radomski, back when he was with the Dodgers (1998-2004).

Mike Stanton: Reliever with Nats for latter part of 2005, first part of 2006. Named in Mitchell report; Radomski claimed he twice sold HGH to Stanton.

Nook Logan: Former Nats outfielder (2006-07). Radomski said he sold Logan one kit of HGH before Radomski's home was raided in late 2005. Interesting note: Logan came up through the Tigers' system, and the Tigers train in Lakeland.

Gary Bennett: Nats backup catcher in 2005. Admitted that he made one purchase of HGH from Radomski, as detailed in the Mitchell report. Went on to win World Series in St. Louis in 2006, and last played for the Dodgers last year.

Terrmel Sledge: Nats outfielder in 2005 who, while on an Olympic training team at the end of 2003, was busted for having a steroid banned by the IOC in his system. Said he got it through an over-the-counter drug.

Ron Villone: current Nats reliever. Was named in the Mitchell Report, which said he bought kits of human growth hormone from Kirk Radomski.

By Chico Harlan  |  May 27, 2009; 12:37 PM ET
 
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Terrmel Sledge probably shouldn't be lumped alongside some of the others. He tested positive for Andro, which was over-the-counter and legal in MLB at the time.

Unlike most of the other PEDs, there's been no evidence of any advantage gained by HGH. It's basically a placebo for players.

Posted by: Uncle_Teddy | May 27, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

If true, I wouldn't be surprised to see the connection between the Caps and the Nats turn out to be a personal trainer of some kind. I'd be curious to know if there is a particular health club or fitness center commonly used by both teams.

Posted by: baltova1 | May 27, 2009 12:44 PM | Report abuse

BTW, after sending love out to nunof1 earlier today (yeah, brue, hate to break it to you, but we're not the same guy), I have to disagree with him on trading NJ. If you get the best deal from the Mets, you take it. Johnson is a free agent, so he may go anyway. We need talent wherever we can get it.

Posted by: baltova1 | May 27, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

"Jose Guillen: Nats outfielder from 2005-2007"

Jose Guillen did not play for the Nationals in 2007. He signed as a free agent with Seattle on December 4, 2006.

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

baltova1: "I'd be curious to know if there is a particular health club or fitness center commonly used by both teams."

I'm a member of the Washington Sports Club gym in Alexandria. Sign on the door says "The Official Sports Club of the Washington Nationals," but I haven't seen anyone I recognize from the ballpark there. You think the Nats might have their own workout room...?

Posted by: gilbertbp | May 27, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

Excluding the Radomski sales and Sledge (as Uncle_Teddy noted), that leaves Guillen as an alleged buyer from this newly-arrested dingus, if you buy into Chico's list as being definitive (which I do not).

Posted by: joemktg2 | May 27, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

gilbertbp, I'm sure they have a full-scale workout room at the Park, but I'm thinking there would be a trainer somewhere who worked with players on both teams. If you read the Mitchell Report, you find that a lot of the players cited are connected through a trainer or a clubhouse guy.

Posted by: baltova1 | May 27, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

"Johnson is a free agent, so he may go anyway. We need talent wherever we can get it."

Yes we do. We also need a first baseman. Nick is talented, and a first baseman. Resign him. If you're a small market team (Pirates, Royals, Rays), you may not be able to take a gamble on a player like Nick with regard to health. The Nats aren't a small market team, so they can afford to gamble.

I'd much rather have Johnson/Dunn at 1B/LF next year than Willingham/Dunn.

Posted by: joebleux | May 27, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

Dang, I forgot to use my tongue-in-cheek font...

Posted by: gilbertbp | May 27, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"if you buy into Chico's list as being definitive (which I do not)."

Which the Mitchell Report most certainly isn't. They basically got two NY clubhouse guys and Larry Bigbee to talk. If you avoided them, you could've 'roided with impunity.

Posted by: Uncle_Teddy | May 27, 2009 1:17 PM | Report abuse

"Unlike most of the other PEDs, there's been no evidence of any advantage gained by HGH. It's basically a placebo for players."

"Posted by: Uncle_Teddy | May 27, 2009"

High Beta HCG, AFP you're either pregnant or you have a whole heck uv a lot of toomuhs.

I think HCG is used to encourage natural testerone production. The use of anabolic steroids et al tends to shut down the body's natural production of testerone, and affects fertility. Taking HCG purportedly reinitializes things so that those shrunkin' doodads regain some vitality after extended steroid use.

In other words, it can potentially be a sign of recent heavy steroid use?

There is no real performance gain with the use of steroids. What it does do is enhance healing. So, a pitcher's arm will "spring back quicker". Heavy lifting in the off season every single day and even during the season, (even twice a day!) is possible. No 1-2 day rest required, muscle recover is rapid.

Still, there are those shrunken doo-dads.

Posted by: periculum | May 27, 2009 1:20 PM | Report abuse

Ooops sorry I meant to say HGH.

Posted by: periculum | May 27, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of which ...

Good old Lance Armstrong could have been using steroids ... he has a medical reason for a waiver. Testicular cancer, he lost a testicle. Natural testosterone production would be affected particularly given he had a really serious case: Corio Carcinoma.

Something to think about der Chico me lad ...


Posted by: periculum | May 27, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Didn't Stanton come clean, too?

Posted by: JohninMpls | May 27, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

"The Nats aren't a small market team, so they can afford to gamble."

Posted by: joebleux | May 27, 2009 1:16 PM
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Joebleux, very true. My question would then be:

Why are the Lerner's running this franchise like it's a small market team?

Bottom 5 payroll every year, not signing mulitple FA's and not signing 1st round picks.

Sounds to me like the Lerner's think it's a small market or they are running the franchise into the ground on the cheap.

Posted by: Section505203 | May 27, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

performance enhancing...seems they didn't get there moneys worth did they?

Posted by: cokedispatch | May 27, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

So Ron Villone needed HGH to help his tired old body repair itself several years ago, but is not throwing sometimes three nights in a row with no pharmaceutical aids? Riiiiight.

Posted by: skippy1999 | May 27, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

"Why are the Lerner's running this franchise like it's a small market team?"

Miscalculation (aka the Plan).

Stan talked them into believing that they could get by on the cheap until their young players developed and then they could add whatever pieces were still needed then via free agency. He/they grossly overestimated the young talent that they had, and underestimated the cost of fielding a non-competitive team year after year.

If I believed in LernersAreCheap as a terminal condition, I wouldn't watch this team every day, all summer long. I think they made some bad decisions guided by baseball people who should have known better. They're slowly getting better (Dunn, Beimel, even Willingham, who was an insurance policy in case they couldn't get Dunn; all signings that are not in accordance with a cheap-at-any-cost policy).

Posted by: joebleux | May 27, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

Well said, Joe.

In other non-news: The steroid thing is a non-story until they have a name. Nothing to see here, keep moving.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 27, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

joebleux,

That is well thought out answer that I can some what buy. it's a lot better answer that I've gotten here in the past.

I hope you are right. The first opportunity we will get to see if the Lerner's are starting to get it and will pry open the checkbook, is the draft.

If they draft AND sign Strasburg AND sign the 10th pick, we may be heading in the right direction.


Posted by: Section505203 | May 27, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

>BTW, after sending love out to nunof1 earlier today (yeah, brue, hate to break it to you, but we're not the same guy)

Even scarier.

Posted by: Brue | May 27, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

Question? Why would anyone listen to Stan Kasten? didn't the Lerner's know about Stan's past here in the A-T-L you can't build a team on the cheap the fact that Bowden sold them a bill of good's with some of these prospect's and free agents is proof enough that somebody was asleep at the wheel.

Posted by: dargregmag | May 27, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

">BTW, after sending love out to nunof1 earlier today (yeah, brue, hate to break it to you, but we're not the same guy)

Even scarier.

Posted by: Brue"

I thought everyone knew that Brue and I are really the same guy. Can there really be TWO posters that everyone hates?

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

"didn't the Lerner's know about Stan's past here in the A-T-L you can't build a team on the cheap"

Yeah, if Atlanta hadn't built its team on the cheap they'd have won at least 15 straight division titles. It's amazing that the Lerners didn't consider that when they bought into Kasten's plan.

Posted by: nunof1 | May 27, 2009 2:17 PM | Report abuse

it breaks my heart nook took roids

Posted by: bford1kb | May 27, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

Just think how amenic Logan would have been without the juice! Yikes. He could not hit worth a damn.

Kasten had nothing to do with player personnel in Atlanta. He did there what he does here now: picks the bobbleheads and style of usher's uniforms, decides which vendors will run out of napkins first, etc.

Posted by: dfh21 | May 27, 2009 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Nook Logan used PEDs? Is that even possible? Maybe, he chickened out?

Posted by: fischy | May 27, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

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