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Saturday Game 2 Lineups [Updated]

Here are the lineups for tonight's game, plus, to recap, since I garbled it in the last post:

Olsen has an MRI. Martis is starting Tuesday. A pitcher will be called up for Monday's game. No one will say who as yet.

UPDATE/CLUE: Chico weighs in -- welcome back! -- to say that Detwiler's start tonight was cancelled. Zach's trying to confirm that THAT means he's Monday's pitcher.

On to the lineups:

Phillies:
Rollins - SS
Utley - 2B
Ibanez - LF
Howard - 1B
Stairs - RF
Victorino - CF
Dobbs - 3B
Ruiz - C
Carpenter - P

Nationals:
Guzman - SS
Johnson - 1B
Zimmerman - 3B
Dunn - RF
Willingham - LF
Harris - CF
Belliard - 2B
Nieves - C
Cabrera - P

By Tracee Hamilton  |  May 16, 2009; 6:34 PM ET
 
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Comments

Detwiler.

Posted by: AnonymousSources | May 16, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

It might make more sense if it was Craig Stammen. He's come out of nowhere to have two pretty good seasons and he's off to a tremendous start this year (ERA under 2.00 at 'AAA' Columbus).

Detwiler was terrible last year. I'm not sure a half-dozen good starts earns him the right over Stammen.

But we'll see ...

Posted by: rushfari | May 16, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I was glad to see Dukes pinch hit at the day game (which I was at - figured we had a better chance with Olsen than Cabrera). But why isn't Kearns starting either game? Is he injured and I just missed it?

Posted by: kevinx | May 16, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Never mind; Stammen pitched last night -- he can't go on Monday.

It'll be Detwiler.

Posted by: rushfari | May 16, 2009 5:23 PM | Report abuse

Never mind; Stammen pitched last night -- he can't go on Monday.

It'll be Detwiler.

Detwiler is pitching in AA. It should be from Martin, Stammen, Bergmann, Estrada, and even Bally.

Martin is pitching tonight.

Posted by: rushfari | May 16, 2009

Posted by: periculum | May 16, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

O'Connor was doing better in AA. He isn't doing as well now that he's been promoted to AAA. He's available as well.

Posted by: periculum | May 16, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

Take a look at the radar - we could be looking at yet another stormy, on-off night. Though one burst is coming through soon

Posted by: Kev29 | May 16, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

JD Martin who also came out of nowhere has the best whip, its under 1 at 0.92. Only Zimmerman was close as a starter at 0.94. If they call him up now he can be removed as the starter for tonight's game for SYR.

Posted by: periculum | May 16, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

Detwiler's WHIP is 1.39. That's higher than most of the starters at SYR I think. Only Bally and O'Connor are worst.

Posted by: periculum | May 16, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Tracee.

I have a previous engagement and won't get to watch the night game. Glad that Nieves will be behind the dish for Cabrera.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | May 16, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

We just had a cell come through in Fairfax County.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | May 16, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

This team is so frustrating. Most of our losses has been because of the pitching. We're scoring 5, 6, 7, sometimes even 11 runs and we're losing. That shouldn't happen.

The bullpen is probably the worse in MLB. They just can't get it done. When was the last time the bullpen actually did their job and held a lead?

It's sad that the offense is actually adequate and is THIRD in the NL in runs scored, but they're LAST in ERA.

Posted by: rachel216 | May 16, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

1a, there's another one blowing right up your lower left extremity as we watch...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 16, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

@BinM - you've mentioned possible trading for a closer--just curious, who do you think might be available, and still good enough to give up real "inventory" to get?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 16, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

repost from last thread inre who gets called up:

If we need a guy monday, its Estrada's turn in the Syracuse rotation. He'd make more sense to bring up than Stammen or Martin since he's already on the 40-man. I originally figured before we'd call someone up tuesday, which would make it O'Connor's turn in the Syracuse rotation... perhaps the Nats took that into consideration and are calling up one of their 40man guys.

Estrada isn't quite as deserving of the callup as Stammen or Martin right now, but he makes the most sense organizationally.

Detwiler's numbers are ok in AA, but he's not ready for the MLB. It was a bad decision to call him up and waste the 40-man spot when they did it. I'm hoping that Detwiler is this year's JZimmermann; a top round pick who finally gets it together with a great full uninterrupted season in AA and competes for a rotation spot in 2010.

Posted by: tboss | May 16, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

periculum:

Detwiler, Balestar, O'Connor - What color is the sky on your home planet?
Think about JZimm on Sunday, Wells on Monday, Martis Tuesday, & the rotation is back to normal. Replace DCab with Stammen, move Olsen to the 15-DL & replace with Bergmann & the team is good to go, imo.

Posted by: BinM | May 16, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

J.D. Martin is a career minor leaguer who is around as an organization player. He is here as a cheap way to for the PROSPECTS to have decent players to play against while they are developing. If a player hasn't made it by his age they probably aren't going to. Same with Seth Bynum.

Posted by: natsguy | May 16, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

nats fans need to stop getting in a lather about personnel moves the club makes. detweiler? martin? stammen? bergmann? o'connor? for chrissakes we've already seen bergmann and o'connor and how many of you have ever seen martin or stammen? stop getting so attached to these guys, especially ones you have only read about or whose stats lines you've seen. do any of us really know the context as to how well bergmann is pitching? how much is his defense responsible for making plays and what is the quality of hitters he's been facing? the same for stammen. if either of these guys comes up and gets hammered, then the hue and cry will be "why didn't the nats bring up someone better?" the pitching is probably going to have more turnover than your neighborhood bakery. especially down in gasoline alley.

Posted by: surly_w | May 16, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Chico weighs in -- welcome back! -- to say that Detwiler's start tonight was cancelled. Zach's trying to confirm that.

Posted by: Tracee Hamilton | May 16, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

Why is Belliard starting at second base? Is Hernandez incapable at his young age of playing both ends of a doubleheader? Memo to Manny and Rizzo - Belliard isn't the future of this team and no one else apparently wants him. Stop the madness.

Posted by: leetee1955 | May 16, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

Wow talk about desperate if they are bringing up Detwiler to start next week. So much for calculated player development and having Detwiler work on the problems with his delivery...This is really disappointing.

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | May 16, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I think Estrada makes more sense because he is already on the 40. Detwiler's WHIP is way too high. He will come up and get hammered. When they do they sometimes get sent back down like whipped curs ... they can't keep doing that. Surly is right about that. It has to stop. Forget trying to find a better pitcher in the minors. Leave the guys there that need to be there. They need to swing a trade to stabilize the pitching and then stick with that solution for the duration.

Posted by: periculum | May 16, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

http://harrisburg.senators.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=g_box&gid=2009_05_16_haraax_reaaax_1&did=t547&sid=t547

It appears that Novoa (a reliever) pitched the first inning.

Posted by: nervousnatsfan | May 16, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Novoa is pitching for Harrisburg tonight. If it was to be Detwiler, then I think we have our answer.

Posted by: rushfari | May 16, 2009 6:41 PM | Report abuse

CiL

the situation is the residue of the reign of error of j. gordon bowden III, who never got around to building depth in the farm system while always preening about his "prospects." this team is no better off than it was during its final years north of the border where adequate - never mind quality - depth is sorely lacking. if rizzo is smart, he'll call theo epstein and ask how to build a farm system that actually meets your team's needs.

Posted by: surly_w | May 16, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

Crap! The skies are cldearing in Silver Spring. I guess that means at 7:05 p.m. I'll get to listen to Cabrera struggle, struggle, struggle. In the name of heaven, please cut him before he gets to face the Orioles next weekend. I still want to know why JimBow thought he was smarter than Andy MacPhail where Cabrera is concerned.

Posted by: leetee1955 | May 16, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if they're thinking about Detweiler with the idea that they might keep him in the bullpen? I can't see him taking Cabrera's spot in the rotation.

Posted by: jcj5y | May 16, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

Tracee,

Off topic here, but perhaps of interest to some NJ readers, I put together a file of the songs you, the other Post writers and readers listed in your blog on Thursday. This would be helpful for someone looking to pull together a quick playlist. The URL is -

http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=df86sk3d_25gx4rs7f9

Great work everyone: NJ rocks!

Posted by: Bklyn_Nat | May 16, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Best franchise news since they signed Zimm:
Clint has been sacked. Or at least he was nowhere to be seen (and more importantly, not heard) Friday night. He was replaced by the lovely Vanessa. Can anybody who went out to either of Saturday's games confirm that Clint has been Pattersoned?

Posted by: jdschulz50 | May 16, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

That is great; thanks, Bklyn!

Posted by: traceeh | May 16, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Leetee, they play 162 games. Relax, dude.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 16, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Brooklyn, thanks for the list. The one thing to add (which someone did mention) is Meatloaf's Paradise by the Dashboard Light.

Posted by: Traveler8 | May 16, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

First wild pitch. The inevitable meltdown of D-Cab has begun. What, does this guy of pictures of Manny, or what?

Posted by: jdschulz50 | May 16, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

and so the collapse begins....

Posted by: surly_w | May 16, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

D-Cab has begun his John Stockton imitation of throwing bounce passes to poor Nieves.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | May 16, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Called it.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | May 16, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

cabrera just missed by a single of pitching for the cycle last inning.

Posted by: surly_w | May 16, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

I'm glad these guys lose a lot. It's so much easier to be cynical. You don't even have to know anything.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 16, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

Now now. He looks better tonight if you ask me. He's been at 94 on the gun - isn't that higher than he had been? I'm thinking the coaches might've finally said "pitch the way we want you too - all out since you're not throwing strikes anyway - or you're going to the minors"

I like Detwiler. I got to see his one scoreless inning in Atlanta 2 years ago - pick backpack and all. It's just a spot start, won't mess with his development and they definitely should not put him in the bullpen.

Also, Bergman is no longer a starter guys. Really. They can't just tell himto be stretched out and ready. And they won't, they said so.

Posted by: nattaboy | May 16, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

surly w is a fantastic callsign

Posted by: nattaboy | May 16, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Well look at it this way after tonight Cabrera should be headed for Syracuse or maybe not, one can only hope.

Posted by: dargregmag | May 16, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

keep running up that pitch count please Josh

Posted by: nattaboy | May 16, 2009 8:02 PM | Report abuse

Sweet. This is gonna be a long night, especially for the bullpens. I'll be happy as long as Cabrera goes 6 and the score isn't out of hand

Posted by: nattaboy | May 16, 2009 8:03 PM | Report abuse

What's the deal with D-Cab throwing all this soft breaking stuff? He must be throwing 75 percent offspeed. I thought they were going to let him "turn it loose" tonight? Does anybody with this franchise have a clue?

Posted by: jdschulz50 | May 16, 2009 8:14 PM | Report abuse

Guzzie, you gotta use that body-spanish, man.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 16, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

geeez, Dibs. Last night it was Moe Berg--now you're saying you've never heard of pig iron?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 16, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

heh, body spainish

Bob and Rob are doin well tonight

Posted by: nattaboy | May 16, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

that wasn't theirs, but whatever

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 16, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse

why use ron villone, seemingly the only decent guy in the bullpen, in a game that's this close to becoming a blowout?

Posted by: rxs85 | May 16, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Make sure Ibanez knows the mailing address to Nats Park so he can send a fruit basket after he wins Player of the Week.

Posted by: mjhoya12 | May 16, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Uh oh, that doesn't sound good... :-D

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1a, there's another one blowing right up your lower left extremity as we watch...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 16, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | May 16, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

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