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Unfinished Business

Until July 9, the Nationals will have at least one thing in common with the Caps: an NHL-ish record. They are now 7-17-1, on pause for the next 64 days, awaiting the resolution of their suspended game from yesterday.

The 10-10 tie -- "a farce of blunders," Boswell writes -- acts as something of a time capsule, then. Josh Willingham is due up; who knows if he'll still be on the roster by then. Joe Beimel was on the DL when the game officially began -- but heck, maybe with some luck, he'll be able to close out a victory. Or maybe the Nats could just give Stephen Strasburg every penny he wants and send him out to finish it off.

But for a moment, let's put the non-resolved Tuesday game aside. This kinda-just-completed two-game series against Houston registered some serious numbers, even if they came with a weird result.

For instance:


* The Nats scored 19 runs, getting 25 hits.

* They scored, in those two games, a combined 11 runs in the sixth inning.

* The team drew 16 walks, and had a cumulative .321 average.

* A whopping 97 players came to the plate; Cristian Guzman alone had 12 official at bats. And no walks. (In fact, he has yet to draw a single walk this season.)

Anyway, today the Nats begin another two-game series, this one in LA. (That's where I am right now.) The Dodgers, with a win tonight, will make history. Daniel Cabrera (0-2, 4.44) goes against Clayton Kershaw (0-2, 5.46).

By Chico Harlan  |  May 6, 2009; 10:15 AM ET
 
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Comments

Reverse lock, anyone?

Posted by: bottomfeeders10 | May 6, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

I am wondering how short of a leash Cabrera is on. I'm at the point where I don't know how much of his starts I can stomach. It's just so frustrating to watch him walk so many batters.

Posted by: Howelsewouldateacherspendhistimeinthesummer | May 6, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Glad you brought up Daniel Cabrera as tonight's starting pitcher.

How much further does Rizzo and the braintrust go with this guy as a starter?

Can the Nats go 4 more months with him in the rotation (replace with Strasburg on Sept 1) or do they go back to Collin Balester and send DanC a pink slip?

Posted by: dmacman88 | May 6, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"Until July 9, the Nationals will have at least one thing in common with the Caps: an NHL-ish record. They are now 7-17-1, on pause for the next 64 days, awaiting the resolution of their suspended game from yesterday."

Actually, no. The game was suspended. It would only be a tie and show up in their record as such if it was declared completed. It could have been suspended with a non-tie score just as easily, in which case it still wouldn't show up in either team's record until it is completed.

And besides that, even the NHL doesn't have ties any more. They have overtime losses. The only one of the four major sports that still recognizes a tie is the NFL.

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

"Reverse lock, anyone?"

Only a matter of time before LearnRabidAce starts posting here.

Posted by: joebleux | May 6, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

These guys are actually hitting. Nats Review went through the lineup (at least the starters) and everyone actually looks average or above average in the NL. Which means they can hit!

http://nationalsreview.wordpress.com/2009/05/06/nats-bats-coming-to-life/

Posted by: CharlieF | May 6, 2009 10:33 AM | Report abuse

Ooh ooh, joebleux, I like: LiarEarnedCab much much better. Fits the "take a ride" theme so much better.

Posted by: faNATic | May 6, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

So what are the rules with a suspended game like this? Can players not on yesterday's roster even participate when the game resumes? There weren't many (any?) position players left on the bench when the game was suspended, but does this mean any new players subsequently added to the team are available to play?

Posted by: theblitz | May 6, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Chico didn't even mention the most unusual occurrence of the two game Houston series. Belliard came up twice as a pinch hitter in the same inning on Monday, actually recording two of the three outs. Has that ever happened before?

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse

"So what are the rules with a suspended game like this? Can players not on yesterday's roster even participate when the game resumes?"

I would think they'd have to allow this. Otherwise, what if Kearns is traded before then or Dukes ends up on the DL? Someone would have to play those positions or in the case of Dukes stand on first when the game resumes, and if they didn't allow new players on the roster to do that they'd have to let in players who were already in the game and had been removed.

The Orioles had a suspended game last year. Maybe Boswell or someone else on the Post's O's bandwagon researched this question then. Anyone have Emilio's new number on the obits desk?

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 10:45 AM | Report abuse

Cabrera's last outing proves that the definition of "quality start" needs some work. But what can the Nats do with him? He makes too much money - $2.6 m I think - to sit, can't relieve because he can't throw strikes, and who are they going to replace him with in the rotation? Is Stammen ready? Could Balester be any worse?

Could they eat some salary and trade him for a ham sandwich to say, the Astros? He'd fit in well there. Maybe a half rack of ribs instead of a ham sandwich. Doubt he'd bring much of a prospect in return, maybe a journeyman middle reliever if they're lucky.

Geezer

Posted by: utec | May 6, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

With regards to suspended games, MLB actually takes a reasonable approach to this.

It would not be feasible to require the Nats and Astros to show up 2 months from now with identical rosters, so, they pretend the rosters on July 9 are what the roster was on May 5 (in this instance). So, anyone that the Nats have used like Olsen and Tavarez and Dunn, etc., can not be re-entered into the July 9th game. However, if Craig Stammen is on the team by then, the Nats could use him in relief. If Willingham has been traded by then, of course the Nats would have to put someone else in LF.

Posted by: comish4lif | May 6, 2009 10:52 AM | Report abuse

Comish4life is correct. There are actually cases where a player has played for both teams during a suspended game. Theoretically, if the Astros had gotten a run off of Hanrahan in the 11th and he was traded to Houston and finished the game, shutting out the Nats in the last of the 11th, he would get both the loss and a save.

Posted by: Catcher50 | May 6, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

comish4lif has it. I was curious myself, so I just looked it up in the MLB rules. They say, "A player who was not with the club when the game was suspended may be used as a substitute, even if he has taken the place of a player no longer with the club who would not have been eligible because he had been removed from the lineup before the game was suspended." So the Nats could even have an extra pinch-hitter, depending on how things play out.

On Cabrera, what really burns me about him is not that I expected him to be good, but that I hoped he could pitch a lot of innings. Keep the team not-too-far-out of the game, kinda save the bullpen. So far, he ain't done that. But then, it is only 5 starts. I'd like to see one of those "flashes" the O's fans told us to look for.

Posted by: Scooter_ | May 6, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

It's odd to me that you're not restricted at all in replacement of players who have been taken out of the game.

If I understand the rule correctly, the Nats/Astros could replace every single player who is out of the game (there are practical restrictions; you might not be able to make the roster moves due to lack of options, etc.).

I think a better rule would be that you can only replace players who were either still in the game, or still eligible to enter.

Posted by: joebleux | May 6, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

I have seen the situation where a pinch hitter bats twice in the same inning... and it has happened with the Nats, but it was a couple years ago... I can't remember the game. I thought it was notable that Belliard recorded outs in both appearances... but I rewatched that inning last night, and Belliard absolutely scorched the ball both times.

The other thing that is interesting about the suspended game is that they will be the home team at Minute Maid Park, a much more hitter-friendly venue. If they're lucky, a pitcher will not appear again for them.

Posted by: wigi | May 6, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

The best "suspended" game story I'm aware of is the resumption of the Pine Tar Game in '83. Billy Martin was still so angry about the incident that he put Ron Guidry in center, and Don Mattingly--a lefty--at second. Then Billy again protested Brett's HR and claimed that Brett had not touched all the bases, and that the umpiring crew--which was a different crew than from the initial game--could not prove that he had. Except the new crew actually had an affidavit from the old crew, stating that Brett in fact had touched all the bases. Billy kept arguing and was ejected from the game before it re-started. Good times.

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | May 6, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

OK, we have now to consider what happens in the unlikely event that Zim gets hits in the next 9 games.

He will hold either the franchise record for hitting streaks, breaking Guerrero's record or be 3rd on the DC list, behind deMontreville and, of course, Heinie Manush, having passed Sam Rice.

I vote for 3rd.

Posted by: Catcher50 | May 6, 2009 11:08 AM | Report abuse

joebleux, you're confusing things. The rule isn't about who can be replaced, it's about who can be used as a replacement in the suspended game. What do you mean by "replace a player who is out of the game" anyway? You mean replace him on the roster? There is no one-for-one replacement that's kept track of on roster moves, even though news stories make it sound that way all the time. For example, the Nats replaced Bard on the roster with Zimmermann when they called him up. Catcher out, pitcher in. That's not a direct replacement.

So actually, say if Willingham gets traded before July 9th the Nats could still be in a pickle in the suspended game if they don't have a new outfielder on the roster then to put into the game in his place.

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 11:15 AM | Report abuse

But on the other hand, GRiP, the team will know that it has a suspended game to finish, and it needs someone to bat in Willingham's spot.

Posted by: Scooter_ | May 6, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

"He will hold either the franchise record for hitting streaks, breaking Guerrero's record or be 3rd on the DC list, behind deMontreville and, of course, Heinie Manush, having passed Sam Rice."

Why can't he hold both? They're not mutually exclusive. Franchise records encompass Montreal plus 2005-and-beyond Nats, and Washington records encompass Senators/Nats I, Senators II and Nats III - plus those other teams that played here before the modern era that only Phil Wood can keep track of.

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 11:22 AM | Report abuse

"But on the other hand, GRiP, the team will know that it has a suspended game to finish, and it needs someone to bat in Willingham's spot."

And I guess they'll have to factor that into any trades/roster moves they make before then. So there's the answer for anyone who wonders why they haven't traded Willingham or Kearns for pitching yet. We need them for July 9th!

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

where is levale speigner when you most need him?

Posted by: surly_w | May 6, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

GRiP, that's what I mean -- I would change the rule so that it is about who can be replaced.

To try to illustrate what I mean with an extreme example, say a manager has used all of his extra players (bench and pitchers). So at that point, the 9 players still in game are the only ones who can play. If the game goes twenty innings, too bad, he's stuck with those players.

But in a suspended game, he now has the option of not only replacing those players (which is reasonable and fair, if they're no longer with the team or injured), but also the other 16 players who have entered and left the game, which, to me, should not be allowed.

Posted by: joebleux | May 6, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

Rather than suspending the game, they should have suspended the bullpen....

Posted by: natbiscuits | May 6, 2009 11:50 AM | Report abuse

OK, I'll play.

WHY shouldn't it be allowed, joe?
In your example, and let's make it interesting and add that they're replaying the game because it will decide whether your hypothetical manager's team makes the playoffs, or not.
Why, in that situation, shouldn't they be allowed to make roster moves specifically BECAUSE they need fresh players?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 6, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

make that
"or not:"

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 6, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

The Nationals use three different lists for records: Nationals since moving to DC, Nationals franchise (including 36 years in Montréal), and Washington baseball (including both failed incarnations of the Senators). This seems to me to be the fairest and best way to acknowledge the muddied historical options in play here.
It also seems pretty clear that using these guidelines, Vladimir Guerrero holds the franchise record for longest hitting streak. And for all those still trying to wipe the Expos off the map, think of it this way:
At the beginning of a new relationship, everything is new and wonderful, because you're experiencing things together for the first time. But the first time you stroll hand-in-hand on the Mall together, you can't pretend that you never did that same thing with two of your previous significant others, and they can't pretend they didn't ever do something similar in Mount Royal Park in the place they used to live.
Washington, the Senators are your exes, and Montréal is this team's ex. While some may want to selectively ignore history, you can't erase it.

Posted by: mjhoya12 | May 6, 2009 12:00 PM | Report abuse

"But in a suspended game, he now has the option of not only replacing those players (which is reasonable and fair, if they're no longer with the team or injured), but also the other 16 players who have entered and left the game, which, to me, should not be allowed."

Still not following you. If a player has entered and left the game, hasn't he already been replaced? How do you replace him again?

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 12:01 PM | Report abuse

Since it's a long time until the game, here are a pair of unasked questions about the Nats that I've been wondering:

1. Zimmerman has a new batting stance (I don't know since when, but it's NJ-like, with the high hands). Has that been the key to the sudden offensive surge? Who is responsible for getting him on it?

2. What effect does Jesus Flores have on the pitch calling? Our two catchers have near identical stats. Nieves pitchers: 4.50 ERA, 17 SO, 127 PA, 6.11 R/In; Flores pitchers: 4.99, 107 SO, 808 PA, 5.67 R/In.

Posted by: Section506 | May 6, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

"If a player has entered and left the game, hasn't he already been replaced? How do you replace him again?"

GRiP, that's exactly what I'm getting at.

In the case of Wil Nieves, you've already effectively replaced him once with Flores, now you can ship him to the minors on July 9 and replace him another time with Bard (who could be used as a pinch hitter).

Sec3mysofa: it just bugs me from a consistency standpoint because it makes a suspended game substantially different from a normal game.

In this case, for example, the process of suspending the game removes the consequences for Manny using up his pinch hitters (good for us). Now he can pinch hit with a position player (if they choose to make the roster moves), which he couldn't have done if the game had been played out normally.

Posted by: joebleux | May 6, 2009 12:13 PM | Report abuse

I love the discussion about how we could trade Hanrahan now, and we could face him in Houston.

But I wonder: if he blows the lead in the top of 12 as a National, could we trade him to Houston between innings so he could blow their save too? In the rules, could he be traded back and forth in perpetuity, and maybe blow up to 20 or 30 saves in a single day?

Posted by: ThinkingOne | May 6, 2009 12:15 PM | Report abuse

I would disagree with MJHoya12. Eventually, you simply lose track of some relationships. I have noticed that, as time goes on, both the Twinkies and Rangers seem less inclined to embrace Senators history. For many of us, and I would hope for future generations, Washington baseball history is what is important.

By the way, how would you handle deMontreville, who played for the Senators, when they were in the National League, pre-1900. That club simply disappeared, unlike the teams that went to Minnesota and Texas?

Posted by: Catcher50 | May 6, 2009 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Haven't had a chance to re-read it, but Sheinin's 2006 article on the Pawtucket Red Sox and Rochester Red Wings' suspended game in 1981 may be relevant regarding substitutions and players no longer on the team: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/17/AR2006041701586.html.

Posted by: SorenKierkegaard | May 6, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

ThinkingOne = Post of the Day candidate.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | May 6, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

OK, then don't think of it as a suspended game. Since baseball famously has no clock, it's just a stoppage in play -- doesn't matter how long. I don't think there's any rule against making roster moves in-game.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 6, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Thinking One is really Rod Serling.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 6, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

"now you can ship him to the minors on July 9 and replace him another time with Bard (who could be used as a pinch hitter)."

Your logic falls apart because replacing a player in a game is not the same thing as replacing him on the roster. As I said earlier, there's no line of succession on roster moves as there is on in-game replacements. The net effect of this is that it is indeed possible to play the entirety of a suspended/completed game with greater than a 25-man roster. But with possibly months between suspension of a game and completion of it, I'm sure the rule-makers figured that would be better than the possibility of a team being forced to play the full game one or more men short because the makeup of their roster had changed. Lesser of two evils there.

A better question might be what happens if the game is suspended now but not completed until after rosters have expanded to 40. Are all those new players eligible, or does a smaller roster have to be designated?

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Sec3mysofa, I'm not a MLB rules expert by any means, but I really doubt that the Nats could have made a roster change yesterday to swap Nieves for Bard during the game, after Nieves had started and then left the game.

Posted by: joebleux | May 6, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

and while we're in The Twilight Zone, what if zimmerman hadn't gotten a hit, but continues the "streak" (which would be a Schroedinger's Streak in that case), and then gets traded to houston, and gets a hit for them? NOW does he have a streak, or doesn't he?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 6, 2009 12:35 PM | Report abuse

joe, it's been done. let me look it up ...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 6, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

Theoretically, if the Astros had gotten a run off of Hanrahan in the 11th and he was traded to Houston and finished the game, shutting out the Nats in the last of the 11th, he would get both the loss and a save.


Posted by: Catcher50 | May 6, 2009 11:00 AM |

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How fun! This suspended game discussion is great and will be fun to keep us occupied for two hole months!!

Posted by: NatsNut | May 6, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

GRiP, there you have it. If the Nats were otherwise done playing Houston this year, this is the kind of game that might well not get finished, unless the game had a bearing on the outcome of a playoff race, so it might get mandated in the late part of the season if one team or the other made a miraculous, Rockies-esque run.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 6, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

GRiP/nunof: ummm, OK. That has nothing to do with what I was talking about, but kudos for convoluting the discussion into something that you could be "right" about. I give.

Posted by: joebleux | May 6, 2009 12:40 PM | Report abuse

Blitz, I hope that clears it up for you ...

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So what are the rules with a suspended game like this? Can players not on yesterday's roster even participate when the game resumes? There weren't many (any?) position players left on the bench when the game was suspended, but does this mean any new players subsequently added to the team are available to play?

Posted by: theblitz | May 6, 2009 10:37 AM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 6, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

joebluex, rather than thinking that I'm trying to be "right" about something, perhaps you could do a better job explaining what you mean. Because as I said, I'm just not following it. What you are proposing seems to be dependent on them maintaining a line of succession on roster moves, right? But they don't do that, so how would what you're proposing be implemented? That's all I'm asking.

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 12:48 PM | Report abuse

joebleux,

I think your hunch is correct GRiP=Nunof1.

Posted by: Section505203 | May 6, 2009 12:54 PM | Report abuse

When the manager brings out the lineup card to the umpires - he brings out 2 copies. One for the home plate umpire and one for the opposing manager.

In addition to that day's lineup - he also submits that day's roster. A player not listed can not play in that day's game.

Obviously, for suspended games that are resumes weeks later, there's some leniency in this. I imagine that they may have to resubmit another amended lineup card.

Posted by: comish4lif | May 6, 2009 12:55 PM | Report abuse

The unanswered question; I went to yesterday's game and I'm actually likely to be in Houston that week in July, so if I show up at Minute Maid Park with my ticket from yesterday's suspended game will they let me in to see its completion?

Posted by: greggwiggins | May 6, 2009 12:58 PM | Report abuse

"I show up at Minute Maid Park with my ticket from yesterday's suspended game will they let me in to see its completion?"

Doesn't look like it. On Nats320's blog he has a photo of the big screen from the end of yesterday's game, and it says "Today's game has been suspended due to rain. Play will resume at the exact point of suspension, immediately preceding our next scheduled game with the Astros in Houston on July 9th. Tickets cannot be exchanged as a rain check."

Your frequent flyer miles probably won't work either.

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

We absolutely need to trade for this minor league relief prospect (the Yankees need another outfielder, right?):

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4145564

Posted by: faNATic | May 6, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

If Hanrahan is traded to Houston and he's put in for the Astros when play resume all he needs to do is pick off the runner on first and then give up a homerun to get the win and the loss.

Posted by: larryn703 | May 6, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Is it a scurrilous, slanderous, and unsubstantiated charge that GRIP and nunof are the same person or is it true? Seriously, I'm just that clueless. I want to know.

And whats up with that GRIP pseudonym anyway? I mean what's that all about?

Posted by: natbiscuits | May 6, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

My screen name is an anagram of Levale Speigner. And like Popeye, I yam what I yam.

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 1:41 PM | Report abuse

Hey Man! re-ranks the 2005 draft. (I didn't realize that Braun was selected right after Zimm).

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/05/06/manager.rankings/1.html

And his take on Rizzo and...Crow... Hey Man!'s first post without slamming Jimbo?

"• It's been speculated that the Nats might again pick University of Missouri pitcher Aaron Crow at No. 10 (their compensation pick for failing to sign him last year) now that GM Jim Bowden isn't around. I haven't written many nice things about Bowden, but he wasn't the reason they failed to sign Crow. Bowden and Rizzo wanted to pay the freight, but club president Stan Kasten drew the line. In any case, there should be a rule against the same team picking the same prospect again. From Crow's perspective, he'd probably rather take the waterboarding option. The Nats, of course, also have the first overall pick, and that's going to be San Diego State phenom pitcher Stephen Strasburg.

• Rizzo, by the way, should get the Nats' fulltime GM job. And I think his support from the club-owning Lerners is such that he will get the job eventually."

Posted by: dclifer | May 6, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

The Nats go west to help set another record. Two years ago it was Barry Bonds and the record breaking home run, now it's the Dodgers and the home opening season winning streak. What next?

Posted by: cokedispatch | May 6, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

re: ambidextrous pitchers
"Minor league umps now have the Venditte Rule: At the start of an at-bat, the pitcher must declare his throwing arm, then the hitter can pick his side, with each man able to switch once."

I feel that there is a MLB rule for this (read it in a baseball weird facts book or something as a kid). That the batter and pitcher can switch as many times unless there are 2 strikes, then they can't switch. Does anyone know the real rule?

Posted by: dclifer | May 6, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"Bowden and Rizzo wanted to pay the freight, but club president Stan Kasten drew the line."

I thought it was the cheap Lerners that drew the line. I'm so confused.

"In any case, there should be a rule against the same team picking the same prospect again."

There is. Crow would have to give his consent before the Nationals could draft him again. I bet Rizzo knows that and just answered Chico or whoever's question about re-drafting Crow the way he did just to avoid embarrassing them for asking it in the first place.

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 1:50 PM | Report abuse

"The Nats go west to help set another record. Two years ago it was Barry Bonds and the record breaking home run, now it's the Dodgers and the home opening season winning streak. What next?"

But at least DCabrera isn't talking about how he wouldn't mind it if the Dodgers won tonight, and after the game, I can guarantee that he won't be accepting a Manny-autographed bat. Thank goodness.

Posted by: dclifer | May 6, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

If major league pitchers had to declare their throwing arm before pitching, wouldn't Julian Tavares be making a big production out of it? And wouldn't Human Rain Delay Jesus Colome be delaying the game even more while he tries to decide?

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Fun to consider the possibilities, but this one isn't possible. Nats are the home team. If they get the lead in the bottom of the 11th, it's over--so there's no lead to blow in the top of 12.

A home team pitcher can never record--or blow--a save in an extra inning game.

__________

But I wonder: if he blows the lead in the top of 12 as a National, could we trade him to Houston between innings so he could blow their save too? In the rules, could he be traded back and forth in perpetuity, and maybe blow up to 20 or 30 saves in a single day?

Posted by: ThinkingOne | May 6, 2009 12:15 PM

Posted by: seamhed | May 6, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

[which raises the question of just because you could, does it mean that you should?]

but thanks for the explanation.

Posted by: natbiscuits | May 6, 2009 1:57 PM | Report abuse

Nationals optioned RHP Saul Rivera to Triple-A Syracuse.

Rivera had an 8.49 ERA and 1.89 WHIP in 11 2/3 innings for the Nationals. That kind of performance is unacceptable, even in Washington. He'll try to iron out his mechanics down in Triple-A.

Posted by: dclifer | May 6, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

that was from rotoworld

Posted by: dclifer | May 6, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

Buck sez Heyman's source on that Crow item was an ex-MLB GM living in the Los Angeles area

Posted by: Brian_ | May 6, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

You think Hey Man! and Jimbo are on speaking terms?

Posted by: dclifer | May 6, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"Buck sez Heyman's source on that Crow item was an ex-MLB GM living in the Los Angeles area

Posted by: Brian_"

Are you saying that Rizzo is still Bowden's hand puppet, then? This from Chico Harlan on Saturday May 2:

"Rizzo did not rule out the possibility that the Nationals would again draft Crow, currently a member of the independent league Fort Worth Cats. Evaluating Crow has been difficult; the Cats play their first exhibition game this Monday. That night, Washington will have at least one scout in attendance. "

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 2:36 PM | Report abuse

Levale Speigners anagram... you are what you are - really - how far do you go with that?

Posted by: comish4lif | May 6, 2009 2:42 PM | Report abuse

@GRiP - No, this quote "Bowden and Rizzo wanted to pay the freight, but club president Stan Kasten drew the line"

Posted by: Brian_ | May 6, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

"Levale Speigners anagram... you are what you are - really - how far do you go with that?"

I might cross-dress, but I'm not getting the operation. Or is that TMI?

Posted by: GalRevelsInPee | May 6, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I might cross-dress, but I'm not getting the operation.
Posted by: GalRevelsInPee
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I know there's a new post, but I couldn't help noting the irony of this comment under this post's title of "Unfinished Business"

Posted by: HotNats | May 6, 2009 3:33 PM | Report abuse

We absolutely need to trade for this minor league relief prospect (the Yankees need another outfielder, right?):

http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=4145564

Posted by: faNATic | May 6, 2009 1:31 PM |
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The Yankees need relievers even more. If they thought he was major league ready, he'd be up already.

Posted by: fischy | May 6, 2009 3:46 PM | Report abuse

Do you think that there is a possibility that the pitching coach will have a talk with Cabrera prior to the game about the following topics?

Here are the topics he could discuss:

A) Lack of control
B) Lack of agression (pitching and at the plate)
C) Lack of focus
D) Hatred of Flores (which must be the reason why he threw so many pitches in the dirt - when they were not behind players, that is)
E) Lack of "strike one"
F) More 5-15 pitch counts than any player in history - causing defense to be on its heels
G) Horrible motion from the stretch
H) Aiming his pitches - as obvious as ever
I) Lack of talent - oops, cannot correct this one.

Mu hunch is that you cannot make this player any better. Who thought this guy had talent? He is a castoff, and desptie the raw physical skills, lacks everything that makes a good baseball player. Where is Wilbur Wood when you need him? he could probably outpitch Cabrera right now. Horrible. Expect loss number 18.

Posted by: jgdonahue | May 6, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

'nother question. If the Nats jack out the first pitch in Houston, is it game over? Do the Astros get the hammer since they're in Houston?

Posted by: 6thandD | May 6, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

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