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Running Weather (And Game) Thread

5:11 p.m. -- The delay is over after 36 minutes. Jordan Zimmermann just threw the first pitch of the game. Temperature: 60 degrees. Number of fannies in the seats: Estimated, 1,000.

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4:38 p.m. -- Dever just came on the press box PA system, and announced the expected start time, 5:10 p.m.

Randy Johnson, Jordan Zimmermann - start throwin'.

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4:31 p.m. -- Kasten was just on the field with a few from the umpire crew and a stadium ops official. They walked around the third base line, had a 30-second conference, and then the stadium worker looked toward the center field fence and made what looked like a home run signal. In stadium ops speak, that means, "Groundskeepers, remove the tarp."

Because right now, they're removing it.

Even though it's still raining ... well... I asked Steinberg. "Can I call it a 'persistent drizzle?' " he asked.

Yes, that seems apt.

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OK, sorry for the indecision here. But let's just start up a running weather thread, which I'll keep updating until we have some baseball.

4:09 p.m. - The tarp is back on the field. The rain is, per Steinberg, "driving." Nats PR man John Dever just said that the rain is expected to lighten in 15 minutes, and at that time, "an assessment will be made." Stan Kasten just poked his head into the press box, gave Dever kudos for the earnest announcement, and said that, honestly, "we have no idea" when this game might get under way.

By Chico Harlan  |  June 4, 2009; 4:13 PM ET
 
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Well then, I guess I won't rush to the ball park to make First Pitch...

Posted by: ramgut | June 4, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Tell Steinberg if he stares at the field and squints his eyes just right, the rain delay will look exactly like a nil-nil soccer match (although possibly more exciting, if someone runs out onto the field and does the slip-n-slide thing).

Posted by: joebleux | June 4, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Either the Nats PR staff or the media need to make clear who has the authority to say "play / don't play" in situations like this. Is it the home team, or MLB (due to the fact that the Giants aren't coming back to DC)? If for no other reason than to direct the ire in the right direction.

Posted by: SimonOliverLockwood | June 4, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I highly doubt they'll get to play the doubleheader tonight.

http://radar.weather.gov/Conus/full_loop.php

Posted by: thisismydcsportsopinion | June 4, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Good news is that not enough people will turn up for both combined to fill the place, so at least they don't have to turn anyone away.

Posted by: soundbloke | June 4, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Simon, it's up the Nats to decide when to start the game. Once the game starts, the umps decide. The Nats are talking to the Giants and the umps to get their opinion.

Posted by: irishnat | June 4, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Easy with the soccer comments joebleux, the soccer folks on the NJ get rather sensitive, as I found out in the past.

Posted by: Section505203 | June 4, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Chico - Thanks for keeping us posted on the game status. You're the only source I've found on the web for up to date status - Is there any other?

Posted by: NW-DC | June 4, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

This season is all just one big and bad dream.

Posted by: 1stpick | June 4, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

to clear up the question. until the game starts, the play/don't play decision rests with the nats. (though proper decorum calls for the team to consult with the umps and officials from the visiting team.) once the game begins, the decision shifts to the umps.

Posted by: Chico Harlan | June 4, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

I hope Znn has time to get in his simulated first inning. I can imagine he might be even more hyped up than normal tonight. We need him to be good!

Posted by: nervousnatsfan | June 4, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

It IS clear. It has always been clear. It hasn't changed in decades, if ever. The home team decides when and if to start, and the umps take it from "Play Ball!"
At least in theory. In fact, the Commissioner can get into it if he wants, just cuz he can.

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Either the Nats PR staff or the media need to make clear who has the authority to say "play / don't play" in situations like this. Is it the home team, or MLB (due to the fact that the Giants aren't coming back to DC)? If for no other reason than to direct the ire in the right direction.

Posted by: SimonOliverLockwood | June 4, 2009 4:38 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

and you can't trade draft picks.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Until the H.P. umpire states: "Play!", the call belongs to the home team. Of course, they consult the schedule and may, in special circumstances (Playoffs, W.S., etc. consult with the MLB folks) and one might assume that with R. Johnson going after #300, this might be considered a special circumstance; but you would have to ask Bud the Dumb about that.

BTW, the Giants aren't coming our way the rest of the year, so unless one of the clubs is involved in a pennant/WC race, the games could not be made up. If one of the teams is involved in a postseason race, you could have a situation where the Nats had to fly in from Atlanta after the game, Sunday, October 4, and SF would have to fly in from San Diego (also an afternoon game). They would then have to play either a Monday double header or games Monday and Tuesday. I'm not sure what the rules would be if the first game decided the pennant.

Trust me, nobody wants that.

Posted by: Catcher50 | June 4, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

and rainchecks are good for any regular season game (except the Red Sox series).

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

and fire everybody.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

by the way, if you had to put money on the next 300 game winner after johnson, who would you pick from this list?

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/W_active.shtml

better yet, does anybody on this list get there? 50-50 odds, would you pick "the field" or "nobody"?

Posted by: Chico Harlan | June 4, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Without looking at the list, I pick Moyer -- what's he need, like 5 wins a year until he's 55? Piece of cake.

Posted by: joebleux | June 4, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Nobody for the next 300.

Posted by: thisismydcsportsopinion | June 4, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

I am sorry, know that there is no one at fault on this but the man upstairs but for a season ticket holder in Leesburg, this is the pits. Last night made the trek only to sit in the stars and strips club for four hours, today am at home because I just don't trust the Stan Kasten's of the world saying there going to get it in.

Called up my ticket rep this morning and he says, you can trade last night's tickets for an upcoming game. I laughed and told him gosh I am a season ticket holder and aren't looking for another game. His reply, it would make a nice present.

So again the ticket holder gets the royal screwing on this and honestly after five years of crappy teams, hassles in getting to the games, high prices and hassle after hassle maybe it's best not to be a season ticket holder.

Gosh, on Stubhub, I can buy by $55 tickets for under $40. If you wait for day of game (around noon) you can get Diamond Club tickets on Stubhub for $70 bucks (includes $35 food vocher) or even better two weeks ago we had given our Friday night Orioles ticket away and wanted to go, for a total including commission I got two Lexus club tickets for $210, again unlimited food.

So why be a season ticket holder when just about every night you can get cheaper tickets. It's really a joke and the Nationals should realize that they are asking a lot of the fans and there is a good reason that the Season ticket holders have gone from 19,000 just four years ago to about 11,000.

Nationals have to do something for it's season ticket holders who are getting not only frustrated but leaving the fold.

Chico, read into this what you want but honestly season ticket holders are getting fend up with all of this.

Posted by: Golfersal | June 4, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

Cracking me up, Sec3mysofa.

Posted by: JennX_ | June 4, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Yikes, there's actually people who bought season tickets after last years "success"?

Posted by: thisismydcsportsopinion | June 4, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

505 -- check; but it is incumbent upon us as Nat's fans to take a potshot at Steinberg when he rears his head in our airspace.

Posted by: joebleux | June 4, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

@joebluex -- next time you go to a Nats game, thy spraying used cooking grease over your glasses. Maybe, it will seem like you're watching a big league product.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to get ready for United's game tonight. They'll be playing. Not every soccer game is great. Though some of the most exciting games remain scoreless, there has been one 0-0 stinker this year. Still, United has had some really thrilling finishes in games this year -- late goals to win or save ties. Can't say the same about the Nats. I think Tuesday might have been their first win in their final at-bat.

Posted by: fischy | June 4, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Zimmermann as the next 300 winner - he'll 1/100 of the way there after today!

Posted by: lowcountry | June 4, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

You can't trade draft picks

Posted by: Section506 | June 4, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Play ball!

Posted by: joebleux | June 4, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Go United! Beat NY!

Posted by: thisismydcsportsopinion | June 4, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

here's hoping that the game gets suspended with the Giants winning or tied (and Randy's still pitching). that would be great, right?

seriously, how are they going to get 2 games in. the chance of rain is high until 3a.m. on saturday!

Posted by: odenton | June 4, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Golfersal wrote:
I am sorry, know that there is no one at fault on this but the man upstairs but for a season ticket holder in Leesburg, this is the pits. Last night made the trek only to sit in the stars and strips club for four hours, today am at home because I just don't trust the Stan Kasten's of the world saying there going to get it in.

Stars and Strips Club?

Then again, I bet it would increase the attendance...

Posted by: TimDz | June 4, 2009 5:14 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for the link to the active wins leader list. Seems like Sabathia is the most likely candidate. He's got 122 at age 28, and averages 16 wins a year. He plays for the Yankees. If he keeps up the same pace for the next 6 years, that would put him at around 215 when he's 36. If he stays in the game until he's 44, he'd only have to average 10-11 wins over the last 8 years of his career to hit 300.

Posted by: jcj5y | June 4, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

So they're underway. Hope they get the full two games in. Is anyone else having problems with MASN? On my TV, the audio is several seconds behind the video. I imagine it is a MASN issue (surprise!), but I just did get cable back an hour ago after having our lines fried in last Friday's storms. All other channels seem fine. Anyone else having this issue?

Posted by: BGinVA | June 4, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Next to 300:

Mike Leake

DRAFT HIM at number 10 and we can all enjoy the ride together.

Let's play two!

Posted by: SlowPitch63 | June 4, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

So some thoughts on this never again 300:

They said this last year when Tom Glavine hit 300 and here we are one year later going through it again.

The 5 man-rotation criticism relies on the belief that more opportunities to pitch will mean that more wins occur. We have seen a decrease in 20 game winners, but not significantly enough that 300 wins is out of the picture.

The 100 pitch count criticism similarly assumes that pitchers would get the win if they could just get a couple more innings in. But pitchers usually come out, because it’s needed to win the game. They come out for a pinch hitter to get runs in (which would give them the win, until the next pitcher takes the mound) or because a reliever with a fresh arm is better and will keep them from giving up runs. At least, that’s the goal. And the reduction in the wear and tear on a pitcher’s arm should give them longer careers, ironically increasing the number of chances for a win, not decreasing

There’s nothing new about the third point, every starting pitcher in history has dealt with that.

And then someone on ESPN said this morning that athletes are richer and so retire younger. Nobody who is a professional athlete wants to retire. Brett Favre.

The National League was founded in 1876 and incorporated several teams that were already well established (Cincinnati Red Stockings, Chicago Cubs, Boston Braves) there have only been 23 pitchers to ever hit this mark. Assuming Randy Johnson’s arm doesn’t snap off in the next day or two, there will be 24. That averages one pitcher hitting the 300 mark every 5.5 years, which is not very often.

And looking at the distribution of pitchers who have hit that milestone, we see that is more or less born out by the data:

1880-1889 1
1890-1899 4
1900-1909 2
1910-1919 2
1920-1929 2
1930-1939 0
1940-1949 1
1950-1959 0
1960-1969 2
1970-1979 0
1980-1989 5
1990-1999 1
2000-2009 3


What do you all think?

Posted by: Section506 | June 4, 2009 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Kearnsie!! That a baby!!!

Posted by: RickFelt | June 4, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, Austin "K"earns! Geez, I can't wait until Willingham feels better. AK does not help our lineup at all. Two games of him tonight may be too much for me. Here's hoping for a Dunn-Harris-Dukes outfield in the nightcap...

Posted by: BGinVA | June 4, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

See, that might be worth driving up from Leesburg in the rain.

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Stars and Strips Club?
Then again, I bet it would increase the attendance...

Posted by: TimDz | June 4, 2009 5:14 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

506 - don't ever reference ESPN on a credible site like this! - kidding.

Initial reactions today in the sports media is that "its the greatest ever" or "will never happen again", so it will. Lincecum, Sabathia, Santana, King Felix, Strasburg (:^))could all do it, but like you said, check back in about 5 years.

Posted by: goexpos2 | June 4, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

All whining aside, this is baseball. It's a simple sport. One of three things can happen: you win, you lose, or it rains.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

This game reminds me Znn's first start when he beat Lowe.

Posted by: janus4444 | June 4, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

There's a healthy lag between the video and audio on MASN (Cox Comm. provider). You see a pitch hit the catcher's mitt, and then 3.5 seconds later..."thwump."

Posted by: Ted_Striker | June 4, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Sec3 - Nice. But do you know what I think we should do? We should Trade Manny for the 2-5 picks. That's what we should do.

Stars and Strips club? No wonder those seats cost $300 each - you have to *ahem* "tip your waiters and waitresses" - and no wonder nobody's ever sitting in the seats outside to watch the game, cos they're all watching inside the club! That makes so much more sense now!

506 - Interesting. Here's my wild-guess theory of the day. There were 0 300 game winners from 50-59 because so many of the pitchers didn't pitch because of WWII, which threw them off later in their careers, when they would have won 300. Who were the 5 who won 300 from 80-89? I'll guess Sutton, Carlton, Ryan, Seaver, and ... Niekro? He had to have hit 300 in the 80s.

Posted by: Highway295Revisited | June 4, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

That's a very logical guess 295, I bet you're right. What about 70-79, though?

The '80s were Perry, Niekro, Seaver, Carlton, and Sutton, good guessing.

I think it's a shame that I took a look at those numbers and immediately thought "steroids?" because of the huge jump in the '80s. We're after Eden.

Full list here: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/pitching/pi300c.shtml

Posted by: Section506 | June 4, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Wow - Randy Johnson must of been like - Let's Do THIS! - it's a no hitter for him in the 5th.

Posted by: PattyinSJ | June 4, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Is there really only about 1,000 people there to see Unit get 300 potentially? Oy...

Posted by: goexpos2 | June 4, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Not to mention it's been 1-2-3 for JZim since the 2nd.

Posted by: PattyinSJ | June 4, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Next 300-game winners? Lots of possibilities on that list. I don't think Pettitte will last another 8 years, but *if* he does (and as a lefty his chances of keeping a job go up), 10 wins a year isn't crazy. Roy Halladay might finish this year with 150 wins and more than 10 years of productive baseball left. Santana has a long way to go, but he's only 30, on a team where he can win 15+ for a while.
Josh Beckett is only 29.

They won't all stay healthy, of course, but they probably won't all break down, either.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 6:15 PM | Report abuse

Ach - I forgot Perry. Now I have to go look when Ryan was. 1990 - I was in the ballpark (figuratively, not literally when he won the game). I would have lost a lot of money on Ryan being one of the five.

70-79 - I'm going to go with "statistical oddity" - same reason there were 0 from 30-39.

Posted by: Highway295Revisited | June 4, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Sweet - I jinxed him. Hopefully I haven't done the same for Jordan.

Posted by: PattyinSJ | June 4, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

Nice work PattyinSJ -- no hitter gone. Now let's work on that SHUTOUT that RJ has going...

Posted by: joebleux | June 4, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Randy Winn has a sweet mustache in his ESPN photo.

Posted by: PattyinSJ | June 4, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

It's also important to note that you can get 300 wins in your career by simply winning 15 games a year for 20 years. That's not that super, it just requires the sixth tool: health.

Posted by: Section506 | June 4, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Man, Zimmermann is getting Lannaned

Posted by: Section506 | June 4, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

"*simply* winning 15 games a year for 20 years"
Oh, is that all?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Taking Zimmermann out...mistake.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | June 4, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

OK, now there's a big, big mess o' storms coming up, that might go south and might not. Better get 2 soon --- HEY NICKY!
get two MORE

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

I saw a reference to someone looking at the "hour by hour" forecast. Please don't tell me that someone is looking at weather.com. That is a site for morons who do not understand the weather. Its more like the USA Today of weather sites.

There is heavy rain just south of the District moving from the southwest to northeast. They will be lucky to get nine innings of the first game in.

Posted by: MKadyman | June 4, 2009 6:36 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, why did they take Zimm out? Was he getting up there in terms of pitch count? It seemed like he was rolling.

BTW - Good work, joebleux, no longer a shutout for Mr. Johnson.

Posted by: PattyinSJ | June 4, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

14 pitchers won at least 15 games last year. It's not that uncommon.

Posted by: Section506 | June 4, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

wait, now you're calling people names for using a weather web site you don't like???
What is WRONG with you people?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 6:50 PM | Report abuse

Maybe not...but how many of those did it more than once...much less 20 times? I think that's the real beauty of a 300 game winner...longevity.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | June 4, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

Like, you could get 200 hits a year, every year for 20 years, and still not catch Pete Rose.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | June 4, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

A 2-1 pitcher's duel (albeit a tag team one). Is this the 80s or what???

Posted by: SaveOurTeam | June 4, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

Come on FOTF...

Posted by: SaveOurTeam | June 4, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

That had to be the worst "strike" of the year. Could it be any more obviously low???

Posted by: grandstander | June 4, 2009 7:15 PM | Report abuse

OMG. That strike call was BS.

Posted by: JennX_ | June 4, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Darrrhhhhhhh....!

Looked low to me ... but close enough you probably gotta swing at it...

Posted by: SaveOurTeam | June 4, 2009 7:16 PM | Report abuse

Total BS. That's a strike on Freddie Patek, not Adam Dunn. Spineless call by the ump -- he didn't want to be the one to take away RJ's 300th.

Posted by: joebleux | June 4, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

That was low!

Posted by: janus4444 | June 4, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

And here goes old hanny.... put on the leadoff hitter... probably put the game out of reach for the bottom of the ninth...

Posted by: SaveOurTeam | June 4, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Oh no.

Posted by: PattyinSJ | June 4, 2009 7:20 PM | Report abuse

I guess it is "Mr. Johnson will tell you when it's a strike"

BTW Manny once again standing up for the team. YEAH TEAM HOOray BEER!!!

Posted by: CBinDC1 | June 4, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Hanrahan really sucks.

Posted by: rachel216 | June 4, 2009 7:21 PM | Report abuse

Good old MLB TV DVR... yep. Way low. Terrible call.

And a double to Renteria... *sheesh*

Posted by: SaveOurTeam | June 4, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse

So pathetic. And are we in San Francisco? The cheers for the Giants are really loud. It's so embarrassing and Hanrahan is just terrible. I can't believe this guy can be a closer.

Posted by: rachel216 | June 4, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Once again, Hanrahan screws the pooch... Good job knucklehead...

Time for Hanrahan to go back "down to the hollar..." and stay there FOREVER.

Freakin LOSER !!!

Posted by: randy_boyd | June 4, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

rachel216, rather unladlylike language. But, very accurate.

Posted by: baltova1 | June 4, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Oh well. Game over man. Game over.

Guess the ump knowns what's up. Figures we're going to put in hanrahan in the 9th anyway so we'll just blow any lead we get in the 8th. Why not just give Randy the K and move on?

Posted by: SaveOurTeam | June 4, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

You just knew after what happened to Dunn that Joel would manage to kill any chance we might have for the 9th. I know Villone is our 8th inning guy, but we need a closer than can GET OUTS. What can it hurt at this point, other than hurting Hanrahan's feelings - again.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | June 4, 2009 7:25 PM | Report abuse

joel hanrahan...the nats gift to their opponents that keeps on giving.

Posted by: surly_w | June 4, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

From Hanrahan to Beimel...

If Manny Acta had any pride left he'd hang himself in effigy and apologize to baseball fans EVERYWHERE.

Posted by: randy_boyd | June 4, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Well, here's the Nats... humiliated again as more history is made against them :(

Posted by: rxs85 | June 4, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

You totally did your job Hanrahan! Came in, recorded no outs, gives up 4 straight hits, two runs, game over. Good job.

Was hoping for a two game win streak, silly me for thinking that could happen, this is the Nationals we are talking about.

baltova1: Sorry about that, this team just makes me really angry. =/

Posted by: rachel216 | June 4, 2009 7:27 PM | Report abuse

rxs85: Yup, the only time the Nats are ever mentioned or talked about is when something historic may happen against them. The Bonds homer, tonight Randy Johnson's 300th win. Oh boy. 5-1.

Posted by: rachel216 | June 4, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

rachel216, no need to apologize, hard to argue with that feeling...

Posted by: baltova1 | June 4, 2009 7:30 PM | Report abuse

i swear i once saw hanrahan in my headlights one dark night on a lonely maryland road.

Posted by: surly_w | June 4, 2009 7:31 PM | Report abuse

Btw, why don't they just put Ron Villone as the closer? He's obviously the only reliable pitcher in the bullpen right now!

Posted by: rxs85 | June 4, 2009 7:33 PM | Report abuse

They didn't show much of the aftermath of the "strikout" on Dunn... if Manny didn't come out and argue that, I'm officially on the Fire Acta Boat.

Posted by: jaumiusk | June 4, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

hanrahan is the todd marinovich of closers - all of the physical attributes but none of the smarts or the heart to do the job.

Posted by: surly_w | June 4, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

you know, you always hear that people like Austin Kearns because he's a really hard worker, but doesn't the fact that he works so hard just reinforce that he's a REALLY bad player? If he works so hard and spends so much time on his hitting and he STILL sucks so much.

Posted by: artvandelay2 | June 4, 2009 7:41 PM | Report abuse

Yay, more history made against us! Woohoo! ESPN will mention us.

Posted by: rachel216 | June 4, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

So Johnson gets the 300th and we get ???? the Nats get ???????

Posted by: CBinDC1 | June 4, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Hanrahan -> minors, Syracuse/Harrisburg.
Clippard + Zenicola -> Nats.

Posted by: periculum | June 4, 2009 7:46 PM | Report abuse

I also understand that Bowden feels real bad about how things turned out. I would like get me ticket to that Yankee Stadium
Bowdenfest.

Posted by: CBinDC1 | June 4, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Another game in 30 minutes.

Posted by: PattyinSJ | June 4, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

Good grief, how many more chances does Hanrahan get? He is worse than people we have already cut!!!! I understand Villone had already been used, but why on earth would Manny use Joel over Beimel??

Posted by: skippy1999 | June 4, 2009 7:47 PM | Report abuse

CBinDC1: the Nats get laughed at (again!)

Posted by: rxs85 | June 4, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

BTW, looks like Solano was promoted from AA->AAA Syracuse. Herrera was sent to AA. Solano might be on his way up. Montz's bat may be waking up in AA.

Posted by: periculum | June 4, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Trivia question:

Who got the last out in Randy Johnson's 300th career win?

Wil Nieves.

WHO??

WIL NIEVES!

Posted by: JennX_ | June 4, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

"Another game in 30 minutes."

Have they said what the odds are of that happening with the weather being what it is?

Posted by: skippy1999 | June 4, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

I'm not normally only looking for the positives, but Znn did put up good numbers this afternoon. 6 IP, 3H, 2ER, 7K. Can we attribute this all to McCatty?

Posted by: nervousnatsfan | June 4, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

A gutless 3rd strike call on Dunn but bad teams seem to attract bad calls from the umps. However Hanrahan managed to erase that sour taste with his own overpowering stench. Even with a 5 run lead the other night he brings the tying run to the ondeck circle. Has he given up on the slider and just grooves fastballs? I agree, why not Villone for closer?

Posted by: SackMan | June 4, 2009 7:51 PM | Report abuse

Too funny JennX... I had the exact same thought... complete with the cheesy smile and hand gestures.... too funny !

Posted by: randy_boyd | June 4, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

@SackMan:
I guess after Manny publicly humiliated both Hanrahan and Nieves for throwing the slider in the game that was lost by a wild pitch, neither of them is too eager to jump back on the slider bandwagon. His fastball is supposed to be his "best pitch." (When it's 96, sure. 92, not so much)

Posted by: nervousnatsfan | June 4, 2009 7:58 PM | Report abuse

I think that gutless loser is actually trying to get fired. I would be too I guess.

Posted by: RickFelt | June 4, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Good one JennX. I LOL at that one.

Posted by: Section505203 | June 4, 2009 7:59 PM | Report abuse

Actually Mike McDougal might be the better closer ... he has done that for KC. Whereas the much older Villone has never been a closer.

Better to try Clippard / Zenicola return Hanrahan to the starter's role in the minors?

Posted by: periculum | June 4, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Thankfully Manny pulled Jordan Z in the 6th to protect him.

Posted by: CountDemoney | June 4, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

sadly...what is lost is ZNN's bravura performance during his time in the game. that kid is the real deal. maybe mccatty can keep axta from obssesively going to the bullpen and flushing the young starters work.

Posted by: surly_w | June 4, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Kearns gets the nod in game 2. He worked that walk masterfully.

Posted by: RickFelt | June 4, 2009 8:01 PM | Report abuse

Yes the season is kaputz. But the good news. The only folks that we HAVE to pay any $$ to next year are:
Dunn ($12M)
Zimm ($6.35M)
Guz ( $8M)Ugh!
Kearns ($1M (buy out option))
Willie ($1.5M)

And, better yet, only Zimm is under contract for the following year.

With the right, and that is a big leap, management a competitive could be built.
Of course this is before Strasburg.And before the Lerners start charging locker rental fees to the players.

Posted by: navboss | June 4, 2009 8:18 PM | Report abuse

Locker rental fees? Worst than Pollen. yeeeshhhh

Posted by: periculum | June 4, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

mmmm14-37suckonitandlikeit

Posted by: Brue | June 4, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Just got home from Stan's Swamp. It seems that whenever San Francisco Giants history is made lately - Bonds's 756th HR, Johnson's 300 win - the Nats are innocent bystanders. I guess Acta put Hand-It-To-Them Hanrahan in to pitch the ninth inning is because he, too, had never seen a pitcher win his 300th major league game.

Posted by: leetee1955 | June 4, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

Boz's column on the Lerner's is up and it's not a pretty picture. Of course they aren't talking and Kasten thinks things are just peachy. I wonder if the Lerner's have, or will ever, realize how badly they have botched this. AFter all, they made a $42M profit last year. Too bad, too bad. Lots of people really want to support this team but are undercut by cheapo, mulish ownership.

Posted by: SackMan | June 4, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse

Hi There!

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Posted by: HotNats | June 4, 2009 8:40 PM | Report abuse

On the way home I was thinking about Manny's decision to use Hanrahan in the ninth inning with the game still in reach for the Nats. His great failing as a manager is that he rigidly assigns roles to his bullpen that some guys just can't handle. Since Hanrahan has been anointed as closer he has blown 7-of-21 save opportunities and has a 66-percent conversion rate. But because he has the profile of a closer because of his fastball, Manny won't change. He would rather have his house burn down than call the fire department to save it. Hanrahan doesn;t have the mindset or fortitude to be a reliable closer, but he has a guy in MacDougal who has a track record with 50 saves in 68 chances who couldn't do worse than Hand-It-To-Them Hanrahan. Manny doesn't have the talent to be so inflexible about the way he uses his relievers. Go with the hot hands and if you lose Hanrahan on waivers, it's no big deal.

Posted by: leetee1955 | June 4, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

14-38

Manny can ya hear me
Can ya hear me callin

Tommy can ya hear me

Posted by: Brue | June 4, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse

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