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Dunn Is Staying Put In DC

Halfway through the most perplexing season of his nine-year big league career, Adam Dunn has dealt with enough losing and seen enough promise to arrive at one conclusion: He wants to stick around for the improvement. He wants to see things through. "I'd love to," said Dunn, who signed a two-year, $20 million contract with the Washington Nationals in February.

Dunn, apparently, will get the chance. Acting general manager Mike Rizzo, speaking to ESPN Radio 980, said today that his left fielder will not be dealt before this year's July 31 trading deadline. Rizzo needed a little probing from host Kevin Sheehan to arrive at a definitive statement, but eventually, he made an unqualified assurance.

"We are not trading Adam Dunn," Rizzo said. "That's as definitive as I can be."

Told of his general manager's comments, Dunn said, "Good. That's good. I've heard a lot of different things, the rumors, and it's every year with me. But that's really nice to know. That's one thing I don't have to worry about -- packing."

Over at the Bog, Steinberg has a full transcript of the exchange, along with audio.

By Chico Harlan  |  July 7, 2009; 7:38 PM ET
 
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Reading between the lines....Rizzo didn't say anything about not moving Dunn during the offseason should it be advantageous for the Nats.

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 7, 2009 7:50 PM | Report abuse

There is no market for Dunn in the AL. No contender other than possibly the NYY (if Matsui is hurt) needs a DH and can take on the $16m owed him for half of this season ($4M)and for next($12).

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | July 7, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse

the nats are going to need somebody besides da meat loaf to play first base after nick johnson is traded. if the dunnkey makes like the second coming of dr. strangeglove after nick's gone then move him to the all-hit, no-field league. the angels most likely aren't bringing back vlad next season so maybe rizz has a fit there.

Posted by: surly_w | July 7, 2009 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Good for Rizzo. Let's extend Dunn now. He makes the whole lineup better, he's fun to watch and he"s a high character guy. I love having him here.

Posted by: raymitten | July 7, 2009 8:06 PM | Report abuse

Got newposted, but thought it was relevant, so here's a repeat.
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Sorry, jumped a lot of comments w/o reading to speak out on this point.

Toward the end of JimBow's reign, (2008-09 "hot-stove" & spring training), I think a number of us on this blog questioned the accumulation of corner outfielders under Major-League contracts (WilyMo / Dunn / Willingham / Dukes / Milledge / Kearns) and relief pitchers on minor-league contracts (Sosa / Ledezma / Colome / Wells / Villone / Taverez).
When Rizzo took over, we began to see turnover in the bullpen, sadly via DFA / callup / DFA, because most of the BP arms were also out of options. The OF has been culled a bit as well, with WilyMo & Milledge gone from the orginization, and Dukes in the minors to get back to basics.

Is the team better overall - IMO, yes; Rizzo is now gathering baseball players, rather than the high-risk chances JimBow used to gamble on. Bowden did some things right, but in the end probably did more harm than good to the overall health of the franchise.

Are we there yet (competitive)? No, not even close; A number of the players on the current roster will either need to be "flipped" for moderate-to-high value, or be allowed to walk away via free-agency (for a possible sandwich pick in the upcoming drafts in return).

Is Manny the right manager to take this team to the next level? Odds are against him historically, since teams tend to fire Managers before players, but I personally wouldn't mind letting him get a chance.

Sorry for the long rant; We now take you back to your regular programming...

Posted by: BinM | July 7, 2009 8:16 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: BinM | July 7, 2009 8:19 PM | Report abuse

"the angels most likely aren't bringing back vlad next season so maybe rizz has a fit there."

Good DHs will be cheap in the offseason. Lots of names, including guys like Abreu who signed for short money this year. Even Nick. At $12m, there is not going to be a great market even next year.

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | July 7, 2009 8:20 PM | Report abuse

I don't care if they trade Dunn or not. I do feel it's a mistake taking his name off the table.

Why did Rizzo feel he had to make a definitive statement? Most GMs would have been smart enough to deflect the question.

Then the GM operates as normal. If someone calls, you listen to the offer, and if you don't think it's enough, you say "no." No harm, no foul.

But to exclude the possibility of a trade seems foolish to me. I have to believe there's at least one team who's looking for a bat. What's the harm in finding out just how much we could get in return?

Posted by: grforbes | July 7, 2009 8:23 PM | Report abuse

Partial list of potential DHs FAs for 2010:

OF/DH
Abreu
Ankiel
Damon
Dye
Guerrero
A Jones
Godzilla
Manny
Sheff

1B/DH
Delgado
Huff
N Johnson
Thome

Posted by: jca-CrystalCity | July 7, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Is anyone else listening to tonight's game via mlb.com? It seems that the reception is a lot clearer than it has been so far this season.

Posted by: BinM | July 7, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse

Move Ryan "5-4-3" Zimm to 1B when Nick is traded. 15 DPs for Zimm. Wow.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 7, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse

To echo Dibble, nice move by Zimmermann!

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse

@jds50: When a player starts grounding into a lot of DP's, chances are he's trying to pull too many pitches. RZimm needs to have a sit-down with Eckstein & go back to the "see the ball, hit the ball" that he had to start the season. An additional attitude adjustment to bring the occaisional bunt back into play might help as well.

Posted by: BinM | July 7, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

"Move Ryan "5-4-3" Zimm to 1B when Nick is traded."

No offense intended...but this is the stupidest comment I've ever read. I hope, to the gods of baseball, that you are kidding.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Hammer!

Posted by: FloresFan | July 7, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse

I guess you could say Willigham's AB was "offense intended." Very nice!!

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

indeed...

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I don't know why this organization feels it has to go "on record" about personnel moves. Because most teams aren't willing to take on big contracts or move controllable prospects it would be unlikely that Dunn would be moved at the end of the month. But what if a team did come to Rizzo with a legitimate offer on July 30 and he had to say, "sorry, already said we're not moving him, period?" How many times in the past two years have JimBow, Rizzo or Manny said a specific move was going to happen and it didn't? Just do like most of the other teams and let the world know after you've made your decision.

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 7, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

ZIMMMMMMMM!!!!!!

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Nice...a dinger for the fure first-baseman...wooohoo!

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 9:22 PM | Report abuse

Inside pitch driven to RC; perfect. Nice job, RZim.

Posted by: BinM | July 7, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

All you people making snarky FoF comments in here about Zim -- please feel free to take this moment to suck on it and like it.

Posted by: joebleux | July 7, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

WOOOHOOO...Franchise is getting his stroke back!

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 9:31 PM | Report abuse

JZimm's doing ok, but needs a short inning or two (61 pitches through 3IP).

Posted by: BinM | July 7, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Woohoo Zimm! That'll show me (and Boz) for looking up some of your negatives.

Guess that 'situation' suited you fine! :-D

14 dingers and 50 RBI

Posted by: Kev29 | July 7, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

For you knuckleheads getting on Rizzo for going on record - follow the link to the transcript - read more than the 1 juicy quote. Read the transcript. Then come back and recant.

Thanks. For those of you who wonder why our GMs (Bowden and Rizzo) need to go on record on the radio - good question. Nothing good comes of those radio interviews.

Posted by: comish4lif | July 7, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

joebleux, your comment doesn't make any sense. The posters who have been criticizing Zimm have pretty much all suggested that they think the guy has the potential and talent to be better than he has been playing. Hitting a HR which, I assure you, everyone likes very much, doesn't change that.

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | July 7, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Ouch...got him in the junk. that's gotta smart...

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

That Harris grounder has to be the perfect representation of this season as a whole.

Posted by: Kev29 | July 7, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Charlie and Dave are saying Willie doesn't wear a cup. An inopportune and unfortunate error.

Posted by: ihatewalks | July 7, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

It's really amazing what happens to this team when they get a lead

Posted by: Kev29 | July 7, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Love JZ's guts. After the defense lets him down (again), he goes out and gets right after the Rock's hottest hitter.

Top of the order... lets get him in position for the win, he's probably only got 3 outs left in him.

Posted by: natinbeantown | July 7, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

So, Rizzo is going to DFA Dunn?

Posted by: Section506 | July 7, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse

JZimm's gotta be done; Harris as well in all likelyhood. Bring in Bergmann & either Hernandez or Gonzalez at 2B, and let's see how they roll.

Posted by: BinM | July 7, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

..that makes 3 games in a row on the bench for Hernandez...what did he do?

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

BinM

An EXTREME flyballer like Bergmann in Coors?

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 7, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

I'm surprised we didn't see Zimn for another inning. Although Bergman pitched well in his stead.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

IHW - You changed my mind. Willie DESERVES the error. He should know better than to take to the diamond without protecting the essentials. On another, painful note - I looked up league leaders in Grounded Into Double Plays, and was astonished by how many great players led the league in GIDP: Pujols in 2007; Andre Ethier and Mike Lowell this year (though they trail Zimm); 2008-Miguel Tejada; Vlad Guerrero (what if he was still on the Nats?)- Jorge Posada in 2004- all the way back to 1988 - Wade Boggs and Dale Murphy. http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/GIDP_leagues.shtml How can this be? Higher up in the order, more at bats, more likely to be batting with a man on 1st, better hitters more likely to make contact, and the fact that hitting is random, that there is no such thing as "situational hitting" - there is only more hitting. The more contact you make, the more things happen, good and bad.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 7, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Defintiely nice inning for Bergie, 8 pitches, a flyout, groundout, and a strikeout, hoping he can keep it going, and we can get that lead back!!!

**Guz in '09!**

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Well, said, HotNats, and welcome back to the Red Knight of the Raritan, Rutgers' own Jason Bergmann!

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 7, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Willie owes us one...or two for that matter.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Note to Carpenter: don't mention ground balls when referring to Wille H. It could definitely have a different context at this point...

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Dang..it is painful to watch Bard run. I love it!

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 10:29 PM | Report abuse

What exactly is Bard recovering from? A groin injury? Much props to him for getting to third on that nice single by WH!

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

No such thing as situational hitting? Flynnie - you just lost me and your credibility.

Posted by: comish4lif | July 7, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

While we're picking on Flynnie: dude, Harris's play was an error all the way. Never mind what he's wearing under his pants; he's wearing a glove on his left hand. Fielding bad hops is his job.

Posted by: Scooter_ | July 7, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

Have to score here

Posted by: Kev29 | July 7, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

...another wasted opportunity...ugh.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Well, no score. Again.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 7, 2009 10:58 PM | Report abuse

(To quote McEnroe) You can't be serious...
2 on, nobody out???

BLARRGH!!!

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

unreal...

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh Guzzie, Guzzie. I can't wait till you get traded

Posted by: FloresFan | July 7, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

...and he wants to be an all-star...pshaw!

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I am taking back my votes for Guz.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 7, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Atta boy, Burnett, nicely done, indeed.

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse

I was embarassed to vote for Guzman over Sandoval. Going to right that with a couple votes for the Giants 3B. He's way up in the voting anyway.

Posted by: Kev29 | July 7, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Pitchers are really showing us something tonight...let's the offense can overcome the defensive lapses and work out a 'w'.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Hey, Goozie. They've raised the postage a couple of cents. So it's 43 cents next time you decide to mail it in.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 7, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

A Kearns pinch-hit. Oh, wow. I'm going to have to mix some smelling salts with my bourbon and Maalox. Cheers.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 7, 2009 11:15 PM | Report abuse

What was THAT????

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 7, 2009 11:17 PM | Report abuse

...oh boy...that's not gonna make anyone lighten up on Kearnsie, is it?

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Only Kearns is capable of killing a rally without swinging the bat

Posted by: FloresFan | July 7, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Goodbye Austin ......there is no excuse!!

Posted by: CBinDC | July 7, 2009 11:18 PM | Report abuse

Kearns = FAIL FAIL FAIL. Its tied now, but is there any real doubt Nats are going to lose this?

Posted by: trezmartin | July 7, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Just on the demerits of that one screwed-up play, Kearns should be DFA'd tomorrow.
Double bourbons and Maalox for everyone.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 7, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

Dibble is getting on my nerves...... there is no reason for what happened just now......he had even been in a game for a week....he should have been rested!!!

Posted by: CBinDC | July 7, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Oh my lord... what was he thinking trying to steal on a leftie anyway? Kearns is not exactly the fastest guy on the basepaths...

That just hurt to watch. I had to laugh. What else is there to do at this point?

Posted by: JennX_ | July 7, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

"Only Kearns is capable of killing a rally without swinging the bat"

...Ok, not really sure a 2-out single passes for a 'rally', but I feel your pain. At least we have the top of the order up in the 9th...

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 11:22 PM | Report abuse

I'm only listening. Was the Kearns gaffe a botched hit and run maybe?

Posted by: NatsNut | July 7, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

With this team, ANY 2-out single is a rally.

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 11:24 PM | Report abuse

Kearns should resign.

Posted by: thegraneys | July 7, 2009 11:25 PM | Report abuse

Scooter: oh, alright. I won't trade Zimmermann either.

Posted by: NatsNut | July 7, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse

and thanks for the rounds of the Bourbon on the 'lox, jd. I'm online ordering a cask and a Costco-sized bottle of the 'lox to have sitting right by my couch...
(setting up an IV line)

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

Time to DFA Tavarez -- although, for a change, he got an out before starting the walk parade. Or maybe there's some team looking for a guy to walk the first batter he faces 75% of the time.

Posted by: grclarkdc1 | July 7, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse

This team is worse than the Bad News Bears. Nice DP fellas.

Posted by: thegraneys | July 7, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

Seriously... LOL!!!

Posted by: JennX_ | July 7, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

...there are no words...

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 7, 2009 11:30 PM | Report abuse

P-Nats gotta be better than this.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 7, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

(now ordering two of each)

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: RickFelt | July 7, 2009 11:31 PM | Report abuse

All ABOARD to DFAtown

Posted by: CBinDC | July 7, 2009 11:32 PM | Report abuse

This team promotes alcoholism.

Posted by: thegraneys | July 7, 2009 11:33 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, people, lay off these guys. They could have been content to be just mediocre or lousy. But, no, they've chosen to make the extra effort to be truly craptastic. Where's your gratitude?

Posted by: baltova1 | July 7, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm with Boz - blow it up. Unless of course you enjoy the comedy factor...

Posted by: LeeM9308 | July 7, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm watching on DVR, as I didn't get home until 9:30, so i'm a couple innings behind (not looking what happens in real time). I'm shocked there were no posts about Zimm's "would've been a 3rd GIDP" if it wasn't for the Morales WP. What about Dunn's special K? Terrible night.

And, gotta believe Willie will be wearing protection in the infield now?

Such a frustrating team to watch!

Posted by: mo_dc | July 7, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I fell asleep on the couch watching the game, woke up and it was April again.

Posted by: cokedispatch | July 7, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse

I'm preemptively rolling over in my grave watching this team...

Posted by: HotNats | July 7, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Compare performance in the "clutch" category of statistics (production with runners in scoring position, performance late in close games, etc.) between seasons. If clutch hitting were an actual skill, it would follow that the same players would do well in the clutch statistics year in and year out. Clutch hitting numbers between seasons for the same player varied wildly; in fact, the variance is the kind one would expect if the numbers had been selected randomly. From Wikipedia, Clutch Hitting

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 7, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

Did you hear that? The Rockies pitcher might win this game without throwing a pitch. Only Kearns could initiate something like that.

Posted by: thegraneys | July 7, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

I simply CANNOT watch this anymore. Beimel throws a DP ball over second. This has to be the sloppiest fielding performance by an alleged big league team I have ever seen!!!

Posted by: nats24 | July 7, 2009 11:36 PM | Report abuse

Various baseball analysts, including Bill James, Pete Palmer, Dick Cramer, and the Baseball Prospectus editors, have found so-called "clutch hitting" ability to be a myth. This is not to say that clutch hits, like those listed above, do not exist, but rather that some kind of innate ability for a player to perform above his true talent level in high-pressure situations is nothing but an illusion. In his 1984 Baseball Abstract, James framed the problem with clutch hitting this way: "How is it that a player who possesses the reflexes and the batting stroke and the knowledge and the experience to be a .260 hitter in other circumstances magically becomes a .300 hitter when the game is on the line? How does that happen? What is the process? What are the effects? Until we can answer those questions, I see little point in talking about clutch ability."

Wikipedia, "Clutch Hitter"

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 7, 2009 11:37 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Zim!

Posted by: thegraneys | July 7, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Let's win this one for Josh Bard's groin. How bad are things that Josh has to be out there in such pain?

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 7, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Good grief!

Posted by: thegraneys | July 7, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse

I mean, think about it, our second baseman gave up the right to have any children in the future just so he could drop a ball, a baserunner gets picked off and then falls down just to make sure they get him out, and a pitcher throws the ball to the other guy at second base to avoid a DP. The winning pitcher for the other team doesn't even throw a pitch and get a W.

Do you think the Yankees would play like that for THEIR fans? The Red Sox? I think not. I think I'll write a thank you note right now to Stan Kasten so he knows how much I appreciate it.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 7, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

1. "Only Kearns is capable of killing a rally without swinging the bat" FloresFan, you are a beautiful, beautiful man or woman.

2. On Kearns getting caught, could have been a hit-and-run. Seems the Nats decided before this game that they knew how to run on these Rockies pitchers, and the catcher, I guess. They were right -- except for the whole staying-on-their-feet part.

3. Flynnie, check out CiL's comment a couple posts ago about the difference between clutch and situational hitting. He said it as well as I could have.

4. Ballgame. Dang.

Posted by: Scooter_ | July 7, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

This is a major league team? You've got to be kidding me. Manny should resign and baseball lifer lackey Rizzo should quit immediately. What an embarrassment. StanK and the Lerners, you should be really proud. As Boz sez, the demolition of this team cannot come too soon.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 7, 2009 11:41 PM | Report abuse

Did you hear that? The Rockies pitcher might win this game without throwing a pitch. Only Kearns could initiate something like that.

Posted by: thegraneys

Yeah I wonder if that is a baseball first ........I wonder if the VI will sell that to his Chicago friends along with his Philly firends

Posted by: CBinDC | July 7, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Flynnie -- situational hitting and clutch hitting are not the same thing. They just aren't. Go back and read the comments to the Boswell post from earlier today if you need a primer.

506--what did I tell you. Can't anyone around here watch this game?

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | July 7, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

That was an f'ing HORRIBLE game. The only thing the Rockies had to do was stand there and not suck for 9 innings.

Pathetic.

Posted by: AtomicOvermind | July 7, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

Manny Acta does not have this team playing major league baseball right now. Boz's point about the pieces not working together aside, this team is lost. They can't do anything right, and that's on the manager.

Posted by: trezmartin | July 7, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

"Let's win this one for Josh Bard's groin." Nice one, flynnie2, but I think the Nats may now need to win one for Willie Harris' groin, too.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 7, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

More Maalox. More bourbon. Repeat. Go to AA in the morning. 'Night, ladies and gents. Careful driving home.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 7, 2009 11:43 PM | Report abuse

My brother lives in Seattle. Maybe the Mariners can beat the O's again and at least one member of my family will be happy.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 7, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

It's the curse of the butchered "God Bless America" from Sunday.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 7, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

Another head shaker tonight.

BTW, on that comebacker to Beimel, it was NOT his error. He's throwing to a spot, and threw it exactly to the right place. Guzman hesitated for some unknown reason and didn't get to the bag. Guzy should donate tonight's gamecheck to charity, 'cause he really didn't deserve it. Maybe he's already mentally hoping to be dealt. Not too many takers after tonight though.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | July 7, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

At the halfway point, the Nats are 24-57, just one game better than the '62 Mets.

http://tinyurl.com/natsmets

The good news, if you can call it that, is that the '62 Mets were a putrid 17-62 in the second half to finish 40-120. If the Nats can just go 19-62 the rest of the way, they'll finish 43-119 (the same as the 2003 Tigers, who were 20-61 at the midway point). Surely the Nats can win 45 or 50 games. Can't they?

Posted by: SilverSpring8 | July 7, 2009 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Okay, my mind is completely boggled out today.

In a weird, out of body experience way, I'm glad I got to see a sequence of somethings that I'm not sure anyone has ever seen before or could ever see again.

Posted by: Section506 | July 7, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

Who is the Only pitcher in history to win a game without throwing a pitch?


B.J. Ryan accomplished this on May 1, 2003. Here is the link to the game summary:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/DET/DET200305011.shtml

Greg Garrett, a relief pitcher for the California Angels, also won a game without throwing a pitch against the Milwaukee Brewers on July 1, 1970. Game Summary link: http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/MIL/MIL197007010.shtml


Posted by: thegraneys | July 7, 2009 11:50 PM | Report abuse

"It's the curse of the butchered "God Bless America" from Sunday."

Oh my God. That was hideous. I thought that girl did a decent job with the anthem. Then in the 7th, she sounded like she had never even heard GBA in her life. A single time.

Posted by: shepdave2003 | July 7, 2009 11:51 PM | Report abuse

What's the difference between "situational" and "clutch" hitting? Bunting a/k/a giving away outs? Hit and run? They tried that tonight. It's a distinction without a difference. There is just more hitting (Zimmerman) or less (Morgan). The more you hit, the more "situational hitting" and double plays you get.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 7, 2009 11:52 PM | Report abuse

I thought that girl did a decent job with the anthem. Then in the 7th, she sounded like she had never even heard GBA in her life. A single time.
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Agreed. She had a nice voice, felt sorry for her.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 8, 2009 12:02 AM | Report abuse

Wait, wait, the Mariners are playing like the Nats. Going to sleep. Better day tomorrow. G'night all.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 8, 2009 12:04 AM | Report abuse

Kearns should resign.

Posted by: thegraneys | July 7, 2009 11:25 PM |
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Resign or resign?

Posted by: fischy | July 8, 2009 12:10 AM | Report abuse

groundhog day nightmare

Posted by: cokedispatch | July 8, 2009 12:12 AM | Report abuse

The only things that made this game bearable were Charlie and Dave and everyone's comments on here.

Posted by: samantha7 | July 8, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Flynnie, the things you cite are managerial decisions. Seriously, CiL explained it perfectly a couple posts back. But I'll try:

Clutch hitting is, as far as I can tell, getting a hit when the fans really want you to get a hit. No one has demonstrated that this "skill" exists -- or, rather, that it is differentiated among MLB hitters.

Situational hitting is changing your approach -- trying to hit to the right side, or get a ball in the air, or not strike out -- specific to the situation. Even a fairly poor hitter can be good at this stuff and help the club more than he should. An exceptional hitter may actually not have as much need for it, but even a very good hitter should do it when warranted.

Posted by: Scooter_ | July 8, 2009 12:17 AM | Report abuse

"If I was going to define what it meant to be a good situational hitter, it would be the ability to successfully adjust your approach based on the situation at hand. That would seemingly require a hitter to have a number of skills–can hit long fly balls with high probability , can hit hard ground ball with high probability, can make contact where necessary, can stay out of the DP where necessary–and anyone who is that skilled is generally referred to as a great hitter and not a good situational hitter."if I was going to define what it meant to be a good situational hitter, it would be the ability to successfully adjust your approach based on the situation at hand. That would seemingly require a hitter to have a number of skills–can hit long fly balls with high probability, can hit hard ground ball with high probability, can make contact where necessary, can stay out of the DP where necessary–and anyone who is that skilled is generally referred to as a great hitter and not a good situational hitter." Mat at USS MARINER, Situational Hitting

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 8, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

So, if the Nats are thrilled with Dunn...Nats should sign "Stone Hands" Stoneman, "Brick Hands" Bricker, to join Dunn in the outfield. Maybe Pokey Leadfoot could see time in centerfield. For the infield: At third base, "Manos de Piedra" Pedroso; and Chaz the Spaz Spazalopoulos at SS. They could play Solly "The Jolly Green Giant" Greene at 2nd Base, and Pee Wee Short at 1st base. Shooter Blanks could catch.

Posted by: fischy | July 8, 2009 1:07 AM | Report abuse

Scooter -
Thanks for taking up the discussion, which I find fascinating. Boz and CIL and everyone in the Nats broadcast booth believe in situational hitting, and I don't. I think it's better to tell them to get the bat on the ball and test the fielders than to say, "In that situation you should abandon your skill set and hit 'em where they ain't." The assumption that a poor hitter should be good at advancing runners, sacrificing, staying out of double plays, . . . well it is just not borne out statistically. Studies show that hitters tend to perform below average when the bases are loaded, as was seen tonight. Yet, in the face of cold, hard reality, we expect them to hit better with the bases full. Making major decisions based on "situational hitting" such as Boz suggests today is like basing them on fairy dust or the voodoo doll Jo-bu (see Major League).exhttp://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/btf/scholars/ruane/articles/situational_hitting.htm

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 8, 2009 1:20 AM | Report abuse

I think you owe Jo-bu an apology.

Posted by: fischy | July 8, 2009 1:22 AM | Report abuse

You're right, fischy. The late Stravinsky-Pierre Bolez atonal God Bless America on Sunday, and now me disrespecting Jo-Bu. Jo-Bu, make their bats afraid of our pitches! I'm off to the neighbor's hen house.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 8, 2009 1:34 AM | Report abuse

I'm up.


Gnu Post

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 8, 2009 1:35 AM | Report abuse

Awful, awful game.

Thanks for making me laugh, everyone.

Posted by: Wittan | July 8, 2009 2:57 AM | Report abuse

Went to bed after Kearns hit, and before he was picked off. That was a good decision!

Thanks for the play by play, love the live game comments.

Posted by: alm1000 | July 8, 2009 8:44 AM | Report abuse

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