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Running Weather (And Game) Thread

[UPDATE, 11:40 p.m.] -- Game called b/c of field conditions. I'll update in a few.


[UPDATE, 11:27 p.m.] -- What a quagmire. Just as the tarp was getting taken off, the rain intensified. Puddles were forming around second base as the groundscrew tried to cover the field. And then? The rain stopped. The groundscrew never even got the tarp on. Now everybody is standing around, trying to evaluate if the field is playable. Workers are applying drying agents to the infield, and three umpires are standing near second base looking at the situation.


[UPDATE, 11:17 p.m.] -- It's pouring again. All of a sudden. The groundscrew is again scrambling for the tarp to re-cover the infield.


[UPDATE, 10:59 p.m.] - Word from the grounds crew is that we're aiming for an 11:25 p.m. resumption.


At 10:10 tonight, with the Nats trailing 4-1 in the top of the seventh, the second cell of rain arrived (quite suddenly) at Nationals Park, prompting another rain delay. With almost no warning, the downpour started. A few fans let out audible shrieks, and everybody rushed for cover. Seconds later, umps signaled the players off the field. Ron Villone was pitching to Colby Rasmus at the time, and the count was 1-2. I'll let you know if/when we resume.


[UPDATE, 9:10 p.m.] -- Well, we're actually resuming as planned. Tyler Clippard is on the mound.


[UPDATE, 8:58 p.m.] - With the rain gone and the tarp off, the Nats just announced that they're now aiming to resume the game at 9:10 p.m. Sounds ambitious, but that's the plan.


[UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.] -- I take back the part about brevity. The rain cell is hovering right atop Nats Park. It's still pouring. We have no estimated time for this game's resumption. And remember, this is already a make-up game, so this is rain on top of more rain.


With the Nationals trailing St. Louis 2-0, a heavy (and presumably short) thunderstorm has blown through here at Nationals Park, pausing this game in the top of the fourth. The contest was delayed at 7:56 p.m., right after Collin Balester walked Ryan Ludwick to lead off the inning. Radar maps indicate that the rainfall is not widespread, but right now it's coming down heavily.

Once we get more info about a continuation, I'll post.


Bill Gluvna just passed along the Full 2009 Rain Delay statistics. It's amazing and depressing all at once.

Game -- Length of delay
April 10 at ATL -- 122 minutes
April 20 vs. ATL -- 163 minutes
April 21 vs. ATL -- 61 minutes
May 3 vs. STL -- 116 minutes (before postponement)
May 5 vs. HOU -- 76 minutes
May 16 vs. PHI -- called after 5.0 innings, after 90-minute delay
June 3 vs. SFG -- 226 minutes (before postponement)
June 4 vs. SFG (Game 1) -- 36 minutes
June 4 vs. SFG (Game 2) -- 67 minutes (called after 6.0 innings)
June 9 vs. CIN -- 107 minutes
June 10 vs. CIN -- 130 minutes
June 18 at NYY -- 326 minutes
June 29 at FLA -- 37 minutes
June 30 at FLA -- 89 minutes
July 1 at FLA -- 19 minutes

15 games
1665 total minutes = 27.75 hours

By Chico Harlan  |  July 23, 2009; 8:00 PM ET
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Rain delay of a make up game for a game that was rain delayed ...

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

And no one considered a roof when they were designing the new stadium?

Just let it stop raining about 9:15 when I get off work and I might catch a few innings on TV when I get home. :))))

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 23, 2009 8:27 PM | Report abuse

Meanwhile, in what is typically a far rainier place, Syracuse ...

Estrada, Williams and Pete Orr were hammered ... its a blow-out for Toledo.

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 8:34 PM | Report abuse

Here is a question for the powers-that-be.

How come I get Nats Talk on gameday audio during a rain delay but I don't get them on regular days? Although, I have to say, some of the calls--!

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 23, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse


lookoutwu: yadier molina looks like turtle o from entouage.... anyone else?

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

Jeez. I've liked everything Gluvna has given us up until now.


Posted by: JohninMpls | July 23, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh, I'm sorry - Bill "Gold" Gluvna.

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 23, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

9:10 restart according to the radio.

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 23, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse

$600 million to build, plus massive lease and fee concessions.

could have hired two grad students to do a little study to tell them that DC is now the florida of the 1970s.

Posted by: malcolmyoung2 | July 23, 2009 8:56 PM | Report abuse

More time for Rizzo to work the phones ...

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 9:01 PM | Report abuse

Well, Florida is just now getting their roof, so, maybe next time...

In the meantime we get rained out in both places.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 23, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Wondering if Dunn's drop may have been subconsciously intentional?

... affecting any pending trade talks?

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 9:03 PM | Report abuse

FWIW on mark lerner dia a Q 'n' A with ladson.

Posted by: surly_w | July 23, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

Good thing I didn't get tix for this one -- I made a promise last year after getting rained out for the game against St. Louis: with tix available for (nearly) every game, I'm only going to go to games with good weather. Not worth paying money to see this team AND suffer through weather/delays.

CHANCE of showers said the forecast. HAHAHA. They'll do everything they can to get this one in since it's an unscheduled visit for the Cards who only need to take the train to Philly tonight (this morning). Smart move to pull Pujols from the lineup with any chance of a rain out/delay.

Looking at the radar right now, there is a small window before a massive t-storm. Methinks they are hoping to get to the middle of the 5th before having to call it, so Nats, stay on top!

Posted by: mo_dc | July 23, 2009 9:11 PM | Report abuse

And with that, thanks for your service, Bally!

Oh no! Sorry -- i hadn't seen who was in the lead. On a bright note, would need to go full 5 if Nats are behind.

Could be 1:00 am before this gets resumed if they don't get to the official game point.

Posted by: mo_dc | July 23, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Yikes. walked in a run on 4 pitches. Clippard-ship is in stormy waters...

Quick, back to calling the Welcome Wagon its previous moniker this year, "Nats Ark"

Posted by: mo_dc | July 23, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

3 walks 5 hits with a homer in less than 3. Walk in a run. Welcome back Natinals.

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

SFGate reported that the NATS have sent scouts for a special trip to the Giants AA team in Conn. Possible Nats trade chips interested by Giants are Johnson, Dunn, Villone, and Beimel.

I looked at the stats for AA team. They are loaded with pitching. Tim Alderson, Madison Bumgarner, Henry Sosa, and Dan Otero (RP). They also have interesting targets in 1B Brett Pill 9 Hr, .295 BA & 67 RBI, and CF Mike McBryde .292 BA and 12 SB.

I think Johnson and Beimel can secure McBryde and Otero. It will probably take Dunn to pry Bumgarner, Alderson, or Sosa.

It does seem intriguing that the Nats made a special trip tonight to watch the AA team. I wonder if they are ready to deal Johnson/Dunn with Red Sox trading for LaRoche.

Posted by: wrw0601 | July 23, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse

Whoa...did you feel that? tremors...

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 23, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

Rizzo needs to hurry ... Strasburg negotiations have to get to the nitty gritty.

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Tremors? When?

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

@perc: when Dunnkey made that diving try in left. The bleachers practically shook.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 23, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if Bally might have gotten traded tonight? Thus relieving after the rain delay?

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Dunn = tremors? :) wonder if kensing is next after clippard?

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse was a joke a Dunn's earthquakes. Sorry for the confusion.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | July 23, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

We better get some runs because the next storm cell is pretty close.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 23, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

It's POURING right now in Arlington. Game over. The pitching coach's visit was nothing more than to slow the game down to allow the storm to get closer.

Who's on the mound for the Nats tomorrow?

Posted by: Juan-John | July 23, 2009 10:08 PM | Report abuse

just finished reading the Q & A with mark Lerner. Interesting perspective on Stan kasten. Lerner strongly defended the "Plan." It made me look at Kasten's work in Atlanta. Interesting that their 1st draft pick was to select a corner infielder in Chipper Jones. Interesting the focus on the young pitching. And more interesting that it took Stan 5 years to build the Braves to contention. At that rate, according to the plan, the Nationals should win the division 2012.

Posted by: wrw0601 | July 23, 2009 10:15 PM | Report abuse

Stan's plan? I wonder ...

They needed to restock with prospects. RZim was already here.

Rizzo's approach seems to be to hyperfocus on young pitching prospects, preferring college over high school. Bowden was more into "toolsy" types that may or may not develop.

Rizzo's pitching choices this year all appear to be making rapid progress relatively speaking.

Lack of position players certainly seems to be a problem both in the minors and on the MLB club. Wonder how he will address that weakness?

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Tomorrow's pitcher should be Mock.

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

From the Natinals Farm Authority:

The Nationals will promote RHRP Josh Wilkie from Harrisburg to Syracuse. The 25-year old Wilkie is 5-2 with 3 saves over 34G (49 1/3IP) with a 2.37 ERA and 1.24 WHIP.

Wilkie has always been a favorite of mine. He was signed in June of 2006 as an undrafted free agent out of George Washington University. He has done nothing but provide solid work out of the bullpen ever since.

Rizzo is moving them up ... but getting past Syracuse won't be that easy.

Posted by: periculum | July 23, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Wow, I guess you can say the game picked up right where things left off in May.

Posted by: Section506 | July 23, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

syracuse got whacked 18-1 by toledo tonight as the chiefs gave up 24 hits. padilla started in LF and ended up pitching.

Posted by: surly_w | July 23, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

I'm going out Friday of four...Section 207...$120 for four, plus milkshakes at Gifford's. For this I'm getting San Diego (Latos 0-1) vs. Washington (Mock 0-3). Great AAA matchup.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 23, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

Just got home from Welcome Wagon Park after wearying of the Stormy Weather. Balester looked so-so, a little more polished than last year but he still has some work to do before being on J-Zimm's or Stammen's level. Should have figured that Pujols wouldn't be in the Cards' lineup and might have stayed home. Liked what I saw of Colby Rasmus but the rest of the lineup without No. 5 isn't all that impressive. Nats proved why this team probably isn't capable of sustaining a long winning strak - spotty secondary starters, weak defense and inconsistent hitting.

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 23, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

11:25 restart, huh? Who's picking up that massive $27,000 tab for keeping the Metro open past midnight? Or is the crowd small enough for Uncle Tedd to call everybody a cab for the ride back to the 'burbs?

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 23, 2009 11:09 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, more rain so what's the plan again? This is probably one of the worst seasons for a team in the history of this league,this team has been disorganized since spring training bereft of any on field orginazation; errors abound,poor fundamentals, a bullpen that has sabotaged almost every game this year, a front office in turmoil, an ownership group without a clue, and a future with no clear agenda. The fans have hung in there and to their credit have been paitient but the Lerners had better get a clue because their patience is running thin and soon that lack of paitience will start showing up in a lack of ticket sales at the gate,Stan Kasten, the clock is ticking.

Posted by: dargregmag | July 23, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse


You're right. As the lyrics go "Things have got to get better because they can't get worse."

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 23, 2009 11:27 PM | Report abuse

@dargregmag: read Mark Lerner's Q&A with Ladson on the site. It's all blue skies to old Markie Mark. Stan's the man with the plan, Rizzo can work without the full GM title (and, most importantly, full GM pay) and, remember, we did offer Tex that $180 million deal "the second-richest in baseball history" before those nasty, old Yankees swiped him away at the last minute. Improvement is imminent, Markie Mark sez. Heck, we might even win 50 games next season. So, there. Besides, he sez, it's all the media's fault.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 23, 2009 11:28 PM | Report abuse

scouts looking at Giants farmhands? oooh, I don't like the sound of *that*. SF needs a third baseman, and I don't think they're after Guzman.

And don't say "they wouldn't dare." He just got a big raise.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 23, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

@wrw, there's a reason they drafted Chipper Jones. The Pitcher of the Century, Todd Van Poppel, had serious signability issues--wanted an absurd amount of money because he was going to be the next Cy Young--so the Braves took a 7-days-a-week player. Jones was a top prospect, true, but that's all--a prospect. Van Poppel went on to set records for ... well, not much, really.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 23, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse

Game's been called. Nats lose.

Posted by: BGinVA | July 23, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

Nationals site is showing this game as a final, completed, over.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 23, 2009 11:46 PM | Report abuse

dang. BG, you just beat me to it. 1a1 owes you a Coke.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 23, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

Nats must have balked at paying to keep the Metro opened. Game just called. Careful driving home...

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 23, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

dang. BG, you just beat me to it. 1a1 owes you a Coke.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 23, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse


Posted by: BGinVA | July 24, 2009 12:03 AM | Report abuse

For R. Zimmerman? And even JZimNN ...

Rizzo probably would ask for an entire team of top prospects.

What was the feedback Chico got? Oh yeah, Rizzo's asking prices were "painful". Good. Someone might just decide its worth the pain ... and if they do it will hopefully end up being advantage Nats.

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

Hey, what the??


dang. BG, you just beat me to it. 1a1 owes you a Coke.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 23, 2009 11:47 PM

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 24, 2009 7:07 AM | Report abuse

Gotta keep on your toes around here, 1a. Sometimes, you gotta keep on other people's toes too. Them's the breaks.

Posted by: Scooter_ | July 24, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

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