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Lineups From Miller Park

Carlos Villanueva gets the surprise start for the Brewers Tuesday evening. The guy has allowed 10 runs in his last 4-2/3 innings, and this is his first starting appearance of the year. Anthony Witrado of the Journal-Sentinet elaborates on Ken Macha's decision.

Washington

Morgan - 8
Guzman - 6
Zimmerman - 5
Dunn - 3
Willingham - 9
Harris - 7
Gonzalez - 4
Nieves - 2
Balester - 1

Milwaukee

Lopez - 4
Cameron - 8
Braun - 7
Fielder - 3
McGehee - 5
Hart - 9
Hardy - 6
Kendall - 2
Villanueva - 1

By Chico Harlan  |  July 28, 2009; 4:04 PM ET
 
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Hmm...NJ not in the lineup...do you smell a trade coming?

I know. Its wishful thinking.

Posted by: FloresFan | July 28, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know how many stolen bases Morgan has with Guzman hitting second? I can't imaging he has very many with Guz hacking away at every pitch.

Posted by: slewis1 | July 28, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Oh 220, how silly you are. This is DC. We don't trade a player until we've established to the whole world that we hate them and never plan to play them again. We don't sell high and buy low! No no no...

i wonder what we can get for Dukes.

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Not only is Willingham playing above his career numbers right now, but he is 30, which is not 26. As others have said, his value will never be higher. I would really prefer that the team not "build around" a 30-year-old having a career year.

Posted by: Section220 | July 28, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: soundbloke | July 28, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

This pitcher should be grist of the NATS bats. Four in a row, lads!

Sec 204 Row H Seat 7

Posted by: adhardwick | July 28, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Wow! Anyone listening to NPR right now? The Mets are an absolute mess.

Posted by: lowcountry | July 28, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm gonna have a poster tonite that says sign strasburg... this stadiums pretty awesome

Posted by: theredskin | July 28, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

"Hmm...NJ not in the lineup...do you smell a trade coming?

I know. Its wishful thinking.

Posted by: FloresFan | July 28, 2009"

Yes, likely for Willie Harris. Its why they are playing him, to showcase what he brings to the team. Team's have recently seen him at 3rd, 2nd, in the outfield.

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

#24 not playing...hmmm, could it be?

Posted by: cokedispatch | July 28, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Christ the last thing the Nats should do if they want to trade for this flotsam jetsam is let people see them play!

Posted by: soundbloke | July 28, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

soundbloke - Heh. My bad. You're right - buy low, sell high, what on earth was I thinking?

Posted by: Section220 | July 28, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

"Most importantly, Elijah Dukes is rotting in AAA"

With Dukes hitting .255?

Ian Desmond (who also just arrived) is hitting over .300. Mike Morse is hitting .356 with Syracuse. And yes, Jorge Padilla is still up around .360 in right field.

I think its time to see Morse or Desmond, not Dukes.

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Beimel and Harris for?

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

periculum:

"I think its time to see Morse or Desmond, not Dukes."

You're nuts. By both scouting measures and performance analysis, Dukes should be starring in RF for the Nats right now. What is a Morse or a Desmond? Dukes already produced last year in the bigs - at age 23. Try not to let a 3-week stretch coming off injury be the totality of your estimation of a player. It's bad enough that Mike Rizzo does it, you don't have to emulate him.

Posted by: B2O2 | July 28, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

If i'm Riggleman i'd switch Josh to the #3 spot and bat Zimm fifth or even sixth.

Posted by: dargregmag | July 28, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

"If i'm Riggleman i'd switch Josh to the #3 spot and bat Zimm fifth or even sixth.

Posted by: dargregmag | July 28, 2009"

Willingham has the highest slugging percentage followed by Dunn and Zimmerman. You pick the guy who walks and doesn't strike out as much to bat third. You pick the guy who hits best with men on 4th.

Looks like the lineup is about right ...

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 4:46 PM | Report abuse

By the way, per our earlier discussion about how Dunn has such a better mental outlook on his abilities in the field with Acta gone...

Jim Riggleman was so impressed with his great catch last night he's got him at 1B...

Posted by: baltova1 | July 28, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse


"You're nuts. By both scouting measures and performance analysis, Dukes should be starring in RF for the Nats right now. What is a Morse or a Desmond? Dukes already produced last year in the bigs - at age 23. Try not to let a 3-week stretch coming off injury be the totality of your estimation of a player. It's bad enough that Mike Rizzo does it, you don't have to emulate him."

Dukes is hitting .255 ... .255 while guys like Morse (just acquired), Padilla, and Desmond are FEASTING on AAA pitching. THEY ARE FEASTING! Check out last night's box score!

Dukes has an attitude problem not an injury problem at this point ... that's what I see.

Morse is Harris' or NJ's replacement if / when they are traded. I think Dukes is stuck for awhile.

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Subconsciously, Riggleman now believes that Dunn will be scooping balls right and left of the bag :)
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Jim Riggleman was so impressed with his great catch last night he's got him at 1B...

Posted by: baltova1 | July 28, 2009 4:47 PM |

Posted by: lowcountry | July 28, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Elijah Dukes still has the best arm in the outfield and next to Nyjer Morgan is the best all around fielder. His power numbers and batting average are good too.

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | July 28, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

You guys did read RZimm's comments, right? He made it pretty clear that the leadership of this team did not think Dukes was too welcome in the clubhouse. That's why Rizzo sent him down - not b/c of a bad hitting stretch. Plus, I take Rizzo at his word - better for Dukes to play every day and figure things out than ride the bench for the big club while Willingham starts...

IF Nick is traded, that opens up lots of options for the rest of the season:

1) Bring up Morse to see what he gives you at 1st.
2) Let Dunn or Josh play 1B and bring up Dukes or Padilla (more likely the latter; I assume Dukes' sentence is to stay at AAA for the rest of the year and prove his attitude has changed by Feb.)
3) Let Eldred have a 2-month stretch in D.C. to see what he can do (as a potential bridge to Marrero).
4) Bring back Kory Casto (OK, kidding...)
5) Others?

Posted by: cdstej | July 28, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

"Elijah Dukes still has the best arm in the outfield and next to Nyjer Morgan is the best all around fielder. His power numbers and batting average are good too.

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | July 28, 2009"

I am pretty sure Austin Kearns has a better arm than Dukes. Plus, there must be a reason Dukes is down in AAA playing the outfield while Willie Harris, Nick Johnson, and even Austin Kearns play instead. Maybe we should bring back his friend Lastings Milledge as well?

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 5:12 PM | Report abuse

"By the way, per our earlier discussion about how Dunn has such a better mental outlook on his abilities in the field with Acta gone..."

That's amazing that a manager could have that kind of effect just by his proximity. How exactly do people believe Acta was diminishing Dunn's self-esteem? Whispering sour nothings in his ears on the bench between innings?

If I stand next to Jim Riggleman for ten minutes, will I suddenly understand quantum physics better?

This old-timer "character" stuff sure is mysterious...

Posted by: B2O2 | July 28, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

"If I stand next to Jim Riggleman for ten minutes, will I suddenly understand quantum physics better?"

Well, truth is quantum physics appears on the surface to be closely related to metaphysics. Just by observing a particle, at the quantum subatomic level, one can change its state. So, theoretically, your attitude could affect a particle's state.

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 5:17 PM | Report abuse

"1) Bring up Morse to see what he gives you at 1st."

Morse would be a replacement for Belliard that can play all of those positions (and short in a pinch) plus the outfield. He probably can't do center field like Harris. So, he would be a better, younger Belliard.

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

You know who else is hitting better than Dukes in AAA right now?

How about Corey Patterson (.278/.322/.429). He of the career MLB numbers of .252/.291/.405. Thanks but no thanks.

How anout Michael Restovich of the White Sox (formerly of the Nats)? He's now hitting .296/.367/.496. His career MLB numbers? .239/.313/.377. Yikes!

How about Andy Marte of the Indians? He's hitting .327/.369/.593 for their AAA affiliate. His career MLB numbers? .211/.265/.337. Egads!

AAA is filled with guys that can hit AAA pitching but can't hit MLB pitching. And as for Dukes 'struggling' in AAA ... methinks he's down there working on a few things (attitude, patience, hitting to right field, situational hitting ... you know Spring Training type of stuff). AAA numbers pretty much mean nothing.

Dukes has proven that he can hit MLB pitching. He needs time to re-start his hitting mechanics and AAA is the best place for him to do this. He'll be back and once he is, opposing pitchers will be sorry!

Posted by: erocks33 | July 28, 2009 5:21 PM | Report abuse

MOVES: Could Nats release Olsen?
Scott Olsen | Nationals
Scott Olsen is lost for the season after undergoing surgery last week to repair a small tear in his left labrum.

The Washington Post is reporting that Olsen's status with the Nationals is uncertain and the team might consider releasing the 25-year-old left-hander in the offseason. Olsen is making $2.8 million this year and is eligible for arbitration, so the Nationals might consider him too expensive, especially with the team trying to land a deal for Stephen Strasburg.

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 5:25 PM | Report abuse

UPDATE: Willingham a keeper?
Josh Willingham | Nationals | Interested: Phillies?
Josh Willingham has seen his name thrown around in trade rumors, but based on his recent performance, Washnington might be just as content to build with him rather than dumping him for prospects. Chico Harlan of the Washington Post tends to agree.

The Giants took a look at a pair of Nats this weekend in Willingham and Nick Johnson, according to Jon Heyman. Not a biggy -- the Giants are scouting numerous hitters -- but these are two of the better ones.

Baseball Prospectus
Willingham a perfect bench bat

"Though he struggled out of the gate after the All-Star break, Willingham is hitting a robust .291/.407/.565 in part-time duty this year. He can hit both lefties and righties, and play both outfield corners as well as first base. The Phils -- or any team trading for him -- probably couldn't do much better in seeking a bench bat." - Jay Jaffe

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

"I assume Dukes' sentence is to stay at AAA for the rest of the year and prove his attitude has changed by Feb."

Are these mandatory sentencing guidelines? Any way the judge has some leeway to perhaps include "building a winner with huge young talent that already emerged in 2008" in the calculus?

Seeing that his only known screw-up this year was showing up a few minutes late one day because he was DOING A CHARITY EVENT for inner city little league, it makes me wonder just what Mr. Dukes has to do in AAA to "prove his attitude has changed since February". Would solving the middle east conflict suffice, or does he also need to cure several types of cancer as well?

My hope is that Dukes is only down there to play every day while drumming up Willingham and Dunn's trade values. That is the ONLY justification for him being down there in my book.

Posted by: B2O2 | July 28, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I really get puzzled by the squabbling on this, and other boards, about Dukes and Milledge. People take supporting or dismissing those two so personally. We actually have no idea how they behaved. A man can do a charity event and still be a bad person; he could could also be a great guy. Also, a man could show up for work late once or twice but still be a very hard worker.

We are reasoning on so little evidence and hearsay when we discuss this topic.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 28, 2009 5:42 PM | Report abuse

My hope is that Dukes is only down there to play every day while drumming up Willingham and Dunn's trade values. That is the ONLY justification for him being down there in my book.

Posted by: B2O2 | July 28, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

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Look - don't quote me for the reason. I'm just reading what Zimm said. Who else could he POSSIBLY have been talking about when he said that the front office was getting rid of some clubhouse cancers? Who? The quiet leaders of the team had a problem. Why? Only they know. But I take it that while his "only known screw-up" may have been related to being late, there are at least a few other screw-ups unknown to us that Zimm was privy to when he shared his feelings in the days after Manny was fired.

Posted by: cdstej | July 28, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

periculum - I like your answer on the Heisenberg Principle applied to managerial influence. But you're still way off on assessment of AAA players, I'm afraid.

If you look around at various organizations, you'll find lots of guys who hit .350 for short stretches (or even full seasons if they're oldish) who will never be considered for a major league trial. Dukes already showed he could hit for average and power (with speed) last year in the bigs. He's probably sort of unmotivated down there, having already proven himself in the bigs.

Wouldn't you be? Now, I know the Hollywood answer is, "No! I'd wake up each day, grateful for the chance to play baseball, even in the independent leagues!" But back in reality, how would you feel if you were farmed out after you did what he did last year?

Posted by: B2O2 | July 28, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

"My hope is that Dukes is only down there to play every day while drumming up Willingham and Dunn's trade values. That is the ONLY justification for him being down there in my book.

Posted by: B2O2 | July 28, 2009"

Last night Dukies got a pinch hit to raise his average to .268. He has 3 home runs. Ian Desmond, coming from AA Harrisburg, continues to show power and the ability to steal bases and is hitting .325. He also has an "arm". The "best arm" in the Nationals system purportedly. He plays shortstop. Ian Desmond was born a year later than Dukes. Desmond, in 40 at bats has 3 doubles and an OBP of .426. He has 3 stolen bases. He has 3 walks against 9 strike outs in 40 at bats. His minor league totals show 6 home runs, 1 triple 1nd 15 doubles. His walks to strikeouts ratio and batting average have improved since coming to Syracuse.

Mike Morse was born about a year earlier than Dukes. He is hitting around .322 over all in stints in the AA PCL and the IL. He has the
flexibility to play all infield positions except catcher and the outfield. He has 12 home runs this year.

Morse in 88 at bats has 2 Home runs and 6 doubles for a .511 slugging percentage. 10 walks against 12 strike outs with 2 stolen bases. He has committed no errors while with Syracuse.
He has an OBP of .436. Over all he had 20 doubles , 1 triple, and 12 home runs. His OBP has improved in Syracuse, as has Duke's.

Dukes has 56 at bats, 6 doubles, 3 home runs and a .268 average. A .536 slugging percentage, and an OBP of .369. (.308 total). He has 10 walks against 8 strikeouts with 4 stolen bases. Caught stealing once. In the majors he had a .244 average, 47 strikeouts, 18 BB with a .308 OBP. In the majors Dukes had 13 doubles, 1 triple and 6 home runs.

All three probably will get a shot soon enough and probably next year as well.

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

Soundbloke and cdstej - you're both right about us debating based on (very likely) a small minority of the evidence. I am just trying to get people to not pile on Dukes so much that it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy (well, this poster said he had an attitude problem so I guess he must, so I'll repeat it to someone else, who will then...)

Let's be clear. The guy is no model boy scout. I suspect he came by his behavior issues "honestly" - meaning not the best upbringing. But instead of painting the guy bad in permanent ink and ruining his chances just when he might be maturing, why not treat him like someone who matters? Why make him the whipping boy. Zimmerman's comments are noted, but again, who made him the inviolable judge of who belongs and who doesn't?

Guys have been known to grow up. Let's make sure he's hitting 3rd for the Nats rather than the Marlins when he does, eh? I've seen his talent described as "sick" by more than one scout - and they weren't talking about his relationship with his ex.

Okay, end of rant.

Posted by: B2O2 | July 28, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

"Guys have been known to grow up. Let's make sure he's hitting 3rd for the Nats rather than the Marlins when he does, eh? I've seen his talent described as "sick" by more than one scout - and they weren't talking about his relationship with his ex."

I care as much about Duke's problems with his "ex" as I do Clinton and Lewinsky. My take on that is that poor guy is getting royally reamed by a shark divorce lawyer. Okay, I guess it would affect his demeanor, over all concentration.

I remember "old school" Teddy Ballgame telling Jeff Burroughs he wasn't ready yet. And everyone was jumping up and down to see the big guy hit in the majors. It turned out that Ted Williams was right.

My advice to Dukes. Walk more, strike out less and take out all of your probably righteous anger out on AAA pitching. Not on your teammates or the organization that has given you employment as imperfect as it might be. Dukes fits the mold of a starting right handed all star right fielder. That impressed Bowden. But how did Bowden get such a talent? Because he has to really prove it.

Hit .450 in AAA, that's what Ted would tell him to do. Its really hard to keep a guy with Duke's talents in the minors if he is hitting .450, walking, striking out less along with reasonably flawless fielding.

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

B202

That was hardly seemed like a rant. It is an excellent point about judging players. If Dukes is trying to reform himself -and I have no idea if he is but I hope it is the case- then the last thing he needs is to feel that he can never escape his reputation.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 28, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

i noticed on the Nats website, that Willingham is listed as 2nd at 1B behind Johnson, Dunn is 3rd in the depth chart.

Posted by: wrw0601 | July 28, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

"My advice to Dukes. Walk more, strike out less and take out all of your probably righteous anger out on AAA pitching. "

Do you know, I'll bet he never even thought of that.

Just teasing.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 28, 2009 6:26 PM | Report abuse

- Trade Harris to a contender, he deserves it.
-Trade Beimel to anyone, for anyone. You can always resign him next year ala Ray King.
- Trade Guzman to anyone for any decent AA or AAA prospect, probably have to kick in at least half the salary. Gonzalez is a defensive equivalent.
- Trade NJ for anything. We get nothing if he walks next year. If he really wants to return, then sign him when he is a FA. We're not winning this year, so whats another 5 or 10 losses.
- Trade Dunn or Willingham only if you get at least 2 1st round caliber prospects in return. They are worth that, being under team control, and likely to qualify for Type A status when they become FA.

I pay $$ out of my teacher salary to watch a team that loses 70% of the time, I'll still pay if they loose 80% of the time. If they make enough moves to prepare the team for contention, then I would actually consider 20 game season ticket plan. But if they do nothing and expect a miracle turn around, then i'll continue to go on promotional days in the cheap seats.


Posted by: wrw0601 | July 28, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

B202

That was hardly seemed like a rant. It is an excellent point about judging players. If Dukes is trying to reform himself -and I have no idea if he is but I hope it is the case- then the last thing he needs is to feel that he can never escape his reputation.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 28, 2009 6:21 PM | Report abuse

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I don't disagree - everyone deserves a chance to redeem themselves. But I don't think he was sent down b/c of his history with his ex. Nor do I think that Zimm and the others are judging based on that history. They spent months with him, 10 or 12 hours a day for days and days on end. I don't think Zimm or anyone else has the right to be final arbiter of Elijah's character -- but his vantage point does give him quite a bit of evidence on which to reach a conclusion.

Bottom line - as I said before, I think Rizzo IS giving him a chance to "escape his reputation"; by going to AAA and proving to be a good guy and teammate. I don't even think he has to hit .450 and feast on AAA pitching - just fix whatever chip on his shoulder problem that caused Zimm to bid him good riddance two weeks ago.

Posted by: cdstej | July 28, 2009 6:30 PM | Report abuse

BTW since the 09-10 Nats appear hopeless, and the homegrown talent should be ready in 2011. What do you think they will do with Derrick Norris when he is ready?
Do they trade Jesus Flores?
Do they move one to 1B?
Could Marrero play any other position?

Posted by: wrw0601 | July 28, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Periculum,

"Guys have been known to grow up.

When are you going to do that?

How many posts can you do every day?

Posted by: WashOut | July 28, 2009 6:32 PM | Report abuse

wrw0601

That plan is fantastic, but something of a tall order, especially given the number of our front office that are dedicating themselves signing Strasburg.

Don't get me wrong, I be thrilled if they got that list done but, I think we might be dreaming somewhat.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 28, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

As Nats fans, all we have are dreams.

Posted by: wrw0601 | July 28, 2009 6:34 PM | Report abuse

"Guys have been known to grow up.
When are you going to do that?
How many posts can you do every day?
Posted by: WashOut | July 28, 2009"

Me thinks he doth protest too much?

Posted by: priestholmes | July 28, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

I agree with trading Harris to a contender if they could swing that. He's not in their plans. And neither is Hernandez. They're going to let Gonzalez hit himself out of a job. I don't think Dukes would create enough interest until he gets back in the mix. And if he starts hitting, really hitting, chances are they'll hold onto him. There's nothing wrong with his attitude, imo. He's got 5 women that have had his babies, and he hasn't lost his cool but once in a blue moon. Self-inflicted or not, you know that can't be easy. Even in the best of times.

Posted by: Brue | July 28, 2009 7:14 PM | Report abuse

Wonder, given the opposing pitcher, if the Willingham, and others can give close to a repeat performance offensively?

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

"Mike Morse was born about a year earlier than Dukes. He is hitting around .322 over all in stints in the AA PCL and the IL. He has the
flexibility to play all infield positions except catcher and the outfield. He has 12 home runs this year."

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mike morse was born in march 1982, so by your "median of 1988" theory, he's a failure.

Posted by: surly_w | July 28, 2009 7:32 PM | Report abuse

"mike morse was born in march 1982, so by your "median of 1988" theory, he's a failure.

Posted by: surly_w | July 28, 2009"

Not mine "washout". I believe that is section 505203's or one of those guys? Kept saying that guys like Padilla, Martin were career minor leaguers ... not prospects.

Since I am clearly a Martin fan that isn't how I feel. However, I can see why a GM like Rizzo would pursue the strategy of populating the minor leagues with younger prospects with no history of injury. Rizzo does appear to make exceptions for guys like Morgan and perhaps Morse.

And I believe that is what Baltova1 states and he is probably right. It may be a waste time and resources better spent on younger prospects. Recent draft picks and changes to the minor league rosters appear to follow Baltova1's contentions almost to a "T".

Morse has a .222 major league average. But he is a lot younger than Belliard. And faster. He sure seems like a reasonable replacement?

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Bally Star: Four-game winning streak. Win one for Eclipse, the Place Bob Carpenter Calls Home.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 28, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

B2O2 - you don't know why Dukes was sent down. You presume to think it was because of his cold stretch. You presume to think it was because of his tardiness.

You don't know what went on behind the closed doors. Dukes is where he needs to be because the people who make the baseball decisions deemed it so.

Posted by: dand187 | July 28, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

"Morse has a .222 major league average. But he is a lot younger than Belliard. And faster. He sure seems like a reasonable replacement?"

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and faster? granted belliard isn't rickey henderson but he's outstolen morse 38-4 in the big leagues. have you actually seen morse play? he's 6'4" 230 has been found lacking in the middle infield (12E's in 52 games at short) and has been moved to the OF.
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Posted by: surly_w | July 28, 2009 7:48 PM | Report abuse

new post.

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 28, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Gee surly? Looks like you can't get YOUR facts straight?

First Morse is listed as an infielder on all the rosters. Second HE IS PLAYING third base TONIGHT?
Finally, he has ZERO errors in 24 games with Syracuse? Finally, gee Morse hasn't spent that much time in the majors or at least as much as Belliard has now has he?

Posted by: periculum | July 28, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Ladies and gents: In honor of leadoff man Nyjer Morgan's bingo-bango, the bourbon and Maalox are being opened early tonight. Drink up, and cheers...

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 28, 2009 8:10 PM | Report abuse

From the Brewers "fans" tonight:

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great start...

3full_count2» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:07 PM
unbelievable!

kingwiththeax» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:08 PM
Holy cow that didn't take long.....Man this team is frustrating to watch.

JPre223» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:08 PM
Wow...prepare for a long night. Probably the worst way to start for the Brewers and Villanueva.

John in Bay View» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:08 PM
wow, way to go Villa...way to go...

helmet» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:08 PM
Game Over.!

imscott72» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:08 PM
here we go!! Bombs away! Wow..

tliebbs» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:08 PM
Unbelievable! WOW

OhioGBFan» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:08 PM
Lead off Homer... NICE.... Villy is aweful

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that how it starts!!!!!!!!!!

FDR» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:09 PM
We suck

BlairKielisNo1» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:09 PM
No hitter is shot ... I jinxed it.

oak creek» Report abuse Tuesday Jul 28, 2009 7:09 PM
WOW!

Posted by: BGinVA | July 28, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse

dand187 -

"You don't know what went on behind the closed doors. Dukes is where he needs to be because the people who make the baseball decisions deemed it so."

Sigh. No offense dand187, but if you believe that "the people who make baseball decisions" automatically know what they are doing, you are mighty naive. I can point to a long list of GM's (present and former) who lack the baseball insight of a box turtle (start with Ned Coletti and Brian Sabean and if you need examples I will quote you chapter and verse).

Mike Rizzo's track record is short enough that he's still in "benefit of doubt" territory with me. But he's 0-and-2 so far (the absurd Pittsburgh trade and his genius move to break Dukes' confidence) and has looked "badly fooled" in play-by-play parlance.

Trusting these front office guys to know what they are doing is often a fool's errand.

Posted by: B2O2 | July 28, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

Erocks33 mentioned Michael Restovich and I got to know him when he played for the NATS and have followed him and he is hitting 301. The guy has never been given a chance to just play without the knowing any day he could be yanked down to AAA. Most of the OF playing today couldn't perform under those conditions. The guy is a player just needing a break. He proves it every time he gets settled in as a regular player. Every Mgr. wants to turn him into a pinch-hitter.. which he is not.

Posted by: blake69 | July 29, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

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