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Lineups From Nats Park

Here's the sneak-preview of Washington's lineup for the evening. I'll add San Diego's when I get it.

Harris - 8
Guzman - 6
Zimmerman - 5
Dunn - 7
Johnson - 3
Willingham - 9
Bard - 2
Gonzalez - 4
Mock - 1

One other thing, and I only mention this because 1.) it's darn amusing, and 2.) Syracuse's rotation is rather depleted right now, since a good three-fifths of it is pitching for the Nats. So: Thursday night, Class AAA Syracuse lost to Toledo, 18-1. You know it's bad when utility infielder Pete Orr is pitching by the third inning. Even more amazing: Shortstop Marcos Yepez followed Orr on the mound... and threw 71 pitches.

Even MORE amazing: Dave Williams, the second pitcher of the night, faced three batters. All hit home runs. Oh, and then he was ejected.

Enjoy the box score.

By Chico Harlan  |  July 24, 2009; 3:05 PM ET
 
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Comments

Man, to be at that park last night.

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"hmmm wonder what Denny Mclain is doing these day?

Posted by: CBinDC | July 24, 2009"

Perfect! POTD.

He's probably in jail. There's a guy for Damned Dibble. His first game, the opener, was as inspirational a victory as you could imagine ... boy did things rapidly go downhill after that.

HEY, we should go to Europe and dig up Curt Flood to play the outfield? Bowden would have done that in a heartbeat. Dibble the ex-Red would have applauded.

You know what, THANK GOD its Rizzo and that he picked a guy like Morgan.

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 3:20 PM | Report abuse

I thought I read where the Twins were looking for help at 2B and in the bullpen. Maybe we could send them Orr . . .

Posted by: lowcountry | July 24, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Any word on why he was ejected? Normally, just being bad doesn't result in that...the Nats bullpen would know.

Posted by: nervousnatsfan | July 24, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Chico: Where's Morgan?

Posted by: ihatewalks | July 24, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

Even dead Curt Flood plays center field better than Lastings Milledge.

Posted by: raymitten | July 24, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Maybe he was PO'ed at being shown up on the mound by a couple of infielders.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 24, 2009 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Oh. He pitched before they did. Never mind.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 24, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Not that I miss the guy a bit, but man, Anderson Hernandez is like the 29th man on this club right now. Another useless ex-Met that Manny fell in love with for no discernible reason.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 24, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

And free-market ideology aside, I just can't imagine established players having a whole lot of sympathy for kids coming out of high school and college commanding money equivalent to veteran players.
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I don't know how far the CBA stretches, lowcountry. It's worth looking into. And I think you're right - Selig and the owners want some cost assurance in the draft process, and hard-capping the slot system would do just that.

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009 3:13 PM

Posted by: lowcountry | July 24, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

Regarding SS. If they didn't sign him this year, do they have to ask permission to draft him with the #1 pick next year? I know they do for the comp pick, but do they have to with the regular pick? If not, that gives the Nats lots of leverage - as long as they finish last, they could keep SS from pitching for anyone else (not in Japan).

Posted by: goexpos2 | July 24, 2009 3:35 PM | Report abuse

@jdschulz50: right behind sec 129. THe peppermint stick flavor is my personal fave.


@ihw: Is that the Gifford's on the lower deck just past the escalator as you enter from the centerfield gate? I'm going out with my teenage daughter tomorrow night and a milkshake might just hit the spot. What flavors do you recommend?

Posted by: jdschulz50

Posted by: ihatewalks | July 24, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

iirc, the NBA made big changes to their rookie salary system after Glenn Robinson got a big payday (10yrs/68 million).

The vets were all for it because the rookies had never played a minute in the league but were getting paid like all-stars. It also meant more money for the vets.

Posted by: derwink | July 24, 2009 3:38 PM | Report abuse

Evidently Williams went up and in on the batter who was up after the third HR.

http://web.minorleaguebaseball.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20090723&content_id=6024342&vkey=news_milb&fext=.jsp

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 24, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Oh, geez. Peppermint ice cream. Whimper...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 24, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

"Oh, geez. Peppermint ice cream. Whimper...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 24, 2009"

watermelon ... mmmmmmmm ...

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 3:44 PM | Report abuse

@ihw: Thanks, much. I'm bringing an extra $20 for Uncle Teddy's account. Hear that, Markie Mark, another free-spending suburbanite subsidizing your family. Just remember every time we shop at White Flint or Reston Town Center, we support these low-lifes.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | July 24, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know when Morgan's contract expires?

Posted by: grandstander | July 24, 2009 3:48 PM | Report abuse

"Regarding SS. If they didn't sign him this year, do they have to ask permission to draft him with the #1 pick next year?"

Yes. Only the player matters, not the draft position. For instance, we could not have drafted Crow with the #1 pick without getting his permission.

Posted by: dclifer97 | July 24, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

thanks lifer...looks like Boras will have all the leverage for the first time in any negotiation - we should have traded the pick when we had the chance...

Posted by: goexpos2 | July 24, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

sorry if this was addressed already, but did anyone ask riggleman why he didnt appeal the runner taking 3rd on dunn's drop? the runner did not tag up and took 3rd when dunn dropped the ball on the transition. seems to me since the fly out was recorded, the runner should have to tag up before taking third. even dibble saw this.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 24, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Nyjer Morgan of
1 year/$0.4115M (2009)

1 year/$0.4115M (2009)
re-signed by Pittsburgh 3/11/09
acquired by Washington in trade from Pittsburgh 6/30/09

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Willie Harris 2b-of
2 years/$3M (2009-10)

2 years/$3M (2009-10)
signed extension with Washington 12/12/08
09:$1.5M, 10:$1.5M

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Nyjer Morgan | Outfielder
TEAM: Washington Nationals
HEIGHT/WEIGHT: 6'0' / 175
DOB: 7/2/1980
AGE: 29
BATS/THROWS: Left / Left
CONTRACT INFO: 2009-10: Near Minimum, 2011-13: Arb. Eligible

Posted by: dclifer97 | July 24, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Here is the site with contract info:

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2005/01/washington-nationals_01.html

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:00 PM | Report abuse

Cot's Baseball Contracts link is in the upper left, btw.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 24, 2009 4:01 PM | Report abuse

dclifer, not sure if you are correct. i think you have to ask permission to draft the player only if you are using the supplemental pick received from not signing him last year. we asked for crow's permission this year because it was his pick we would have used.

the logic is that since the nats are a lock to have the #1 pick next year, they could redraft SS as #1 and would not have to ask since his supplemental pick would be #1a. i could be wrong...

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 24, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

ARGH! Riggleman! I was feeling annoyed enough at going to see a game with Mock pitching, but now you take Nyjer out of the lineup, too? Thanks, buddy.

Posted by: Section506 | July 24, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

It's unsettling to see the organization is laughable at the minor league level as well... at least there's consistency.

Posted by: ncnatsfan | July 24, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Interesting chart listing players' agents. One Nats player has Scott Boras for his agent...

And that would be---?

(hint)--someone who said he'd have no problem getting another assignment if the Nats let him go....

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:04 PM | Report abuse

@ natsfan1a1 - Love the Gifford's peppermint stick ice cream. It's astonishingly good.

Oh, man, I'm drooling all over my keyboard. That's just gross.

Posted by: Section220 | July 24, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

dcsportsfan: Yeah, since it was a fly out, the runner certainly should have had to tag up. If he didn't, and the Nats didn't appeal, then they really blew that play. Good catch.

(I didn't see whether he tug or not.)

Posted by: Scooter_ | July 24, 2009 4:06 PM | Report abuse

I guess R-man is keeping his promise to give each player a "rest" day during this stretch... it must be Nyjer's turn.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

wikipedia (doesn't get into the specifics that you mention, but don't think it has to)

Negotiating Rights
Prior to 2007, a team retained the rights to sign a selected player until one week prior to the next draft, or until the player enters, or returns to, a four-year college on a full-time basis. Starting in 2007, the deadline for signing a drafted player is August 15. A selected player who enters a junior college cannot be signed until the conclusion of the school's baseball season. A player who is drafted and does not sign with the club that selected him may be drafted again at a future year's draft, so long as the player is eligible for that year's draft. A club may not select a player again in a subsequent year, unless the player has consented to the re-selection.

Posted by: dclifer97 | July 24, 2009 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Abssent any rest days by Riggleman, they'd have to play 25 straight days between the end of the all-star break and the next off-day (August 10) so I'm not going to kill Riggleman for giving guys a break...

Posted by: Section220 | July 24, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

@Nats_Lady: I'm all for that, but not on the night(s) that *I* go to the park!

Posted by: ihatewalks | July 24, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Yes, but that's only because there's a salary cap. In baseball, more money for the rookies could translate to more money for veterans.

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The vets were all for it because the rookies had never played a minute in the league but were getting paid like all-stars. It also meant more money for the vets.

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/draftday/rules.jsp

Posted by: dclifer97 | July 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

No, I'm just going to kill him for giving the guy I want to see a break. Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!

Posted by: Section506 | July 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

"It's unsettling to see the organization is laughable at the minor league level as well... at least there's consistency.

Posted by: ncnatsfan | July 24, 2009"

Syracuse is a bit unsettled because of the moves involving the pitching staff. They were pretty competitive up until then. They are in transition; as is Harrisburg. Restocking with younger prospects as opposed to 30+ guys who are career minor leaguers.

That has to be a major goal associated with any trades: restocking at the AA and AAA levels with top notch prospects. The problem is that isn't going to be seen right away at the major league level ... many fans won't see it as an improvment.

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

@Sec220: assuming no rain-outs.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

I'll see your Wikipedia and raise you an MLB.com

"A Club may not select a player again in a subsequent year, unless the player has consented to the re-selection."

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/draftday/rules.jsp

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 24, 2009 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Oh. Nevermind.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 24, 2009 4:16 PM | Report abuse

First of all, ha!

Secondly - and I hope Boras isn't reading this - he could really have some fun if the Nats don't sign Strasburg this year. He could basically agree to let the Nats redraft him next year, but only at 1a. I'm not sure about the specifics of the permission, but it could just be a simple handshake agreement, too.

This would accomplish two things. For one, it would make Bryce Harper, another Boras client, to be drafted #1 overall. That's more negotiating leverage there.

It would also mean the Nats would have to sign Strasburg or risk losing the pick. You don't get compensation if you fail to sign your compensatory pick. Thus, more leverage in that negotiation as well.

Which is why I'm surprised Crow didn't sign the redraft consent form. I know he didn't want to play here, but he really could've had Rizzo over the barrel.

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thanks lifer...looks like Boras will have all the leverage for the first time in any negotiation - we should have traded the pick when we had the chance...

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

@sec3: Duh! That is a neat list of websites.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

It is if they keep getting called up!

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The problem is that isn't going to be seen right away at the major league level

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009 4:19 PM | Report abuse

JinM: I don't think you can trade picks, can you?

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

That's why I said "ha!"

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Fair point, 506 - He'd better be playing on Sunday, when I'm going, or there's going to be trouble!

Posted by: Section220 | July 24, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

NO! Where is Nyjer??!

Posted by: rachel216 | July 24, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

"we should have traded the pick when we had the chance...

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009"

Picks are never traded.

Instead, if you are small market, you sign them, develop them, and then trade them to teams like Yankees for big cash and a couple of prospects. That was the SOP of the Montreal Expos, a "farm team" for wealthier major league clubs. Used to say that about other teams like the Yankees.

So, perhaps in a sense, Baseball itself is signing Strasburg, as much as the Nationals/Lerners.

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of draft picks, did you notice that the Cardinals gave up a former first and second round pick from last year's draft and a supplemental #1 from 2007 to get Hall-, Holi-, the guy from the A's? Given that they've also got some decent to very good stats in their minor league careers so far, that seems like a lot to give up.

I'd take two of those kind of guys for our boys...

Posted by: baltova1 | July 24, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Should've traded Belliard to the Twins back in 2007.

Casilla hit .333 last year at 2B for Minnesota. Now he's in AAA, and he hasn't been able to get anything done in a few callups. Mentally, he's just not there.

I've always liked the guy, but it's looking more and more like he won't work out. But with his resume - wild swinger, mental lapses on defense and at the plate, toolsy, converted SS - he sounds like a fit in DC!

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I thought I read where the Twins were looking for help at 2B and in the bullpen. Maybe we could send them Orr . . .

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

I know. It's a running joke.

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Picks are never traded.

Posted by: JohninMpls | July 24, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

"Picks are never traded. "

Periculum, you got something right! Congrats, man.

Posted by: Section506 | July 24, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

BTW, I assume Dave Williams, the Syracuse pitcher who threw three straight homers and then got ejected, did that to get out of the game. I mean, if you throw three straight dingers and the manager still won't take you out, you've got to take things into your hands before you end up in the record book.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 24, 2009 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so I am young kid who wants to "game" the system. What's to stop me from playing lousy in high school every time there's a scout around, and getting passed on by all the clubs, so I get to be a free agent?

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse

@baltova: couldn't he just have said FU to the umpire and not risked nicking some poor batter? Or does that not saying FU apply to the Nats farm system also?

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

"NO! Where is Nyjer??!

Posted by: rachel216 | July 24, 2009"

Nyjer isn't going anywhere. But Willie may be. Same with Willingham. Maybe even Dunn.

The gist of it is: Nick is staying. Everyone else but Zimmerman and Nyjer may be going.

Its time to "case the display". Bring the things you want to sell up front ...

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

Nats top three hitters tonight (Harris, Guzman, Zim) are on a 4-for-47 tear.

Posted by: bottomfeeders10 | July 24, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Given that the change was made in 2007, I suspect that the first year draft is part of the CBA. It probably won't come up for review for another three years. Boras wins (again)
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Negotiating Rights
Prior to 2007, a team retained the rights to sign a selected player until one week prior to the next draft, or until the player enters, or returns to, a four-year college on a full-time basis. Starting in 2007, the deadline for signing a drafted player is August 15. A selected player who enters a junior college cannot be signed until the conclusion of the school's baseball season. A player who is drafted and does not sign with the club that selected him may be drafted again at a future year's draft, so long as the player is eligible for that year's draft. A club may not select a player again in a subsequent year, unless the player has consented to the re-selection.

Posted by: lowcountry | July 24, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Ok, so I am young kid who wants to "game" the system. What's to stop me from playing lousy in high school every time there's a scout around, and getting passed on by all the clubs, so I get to be a free agent?
Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:28 PM
+++++++++++++
You may actually be serious here, so I'll give you a serious answer: the fact that all the scouts have seen you stink up the joint, and therefore will not recommend signing you.

(Plus, you were a total jerk who showed an utter disregard for your teammates, if you want to get all into it.)

Posted by: Scooter_ | July 24, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

My fear is if we don't sign SS this year, then next year we won't take either SS again or Harper, a Boras client who will want SS like money, and we end up with the top two picks but don't take either of the best two players. If we get a deal done with SS this year then it improves our chances that we take and sign Harper next year. Or, if we spend a ton on SS, it gives the FO a reasonable excuse to pass on Harper and take the next best player.

In other words, I think this negociation will convince the FO to pass on Harper next year regardless of whether we sign SS. So if we miss on him, we're going to miss on Harper too. There is no way Boras will let us draft SS again so this is our only shot.

ps. I'm going tonight and I'm pissed about missing Nyger too.

Posted by: sec307 | July 24, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

cant argue with wiki...although someone did point out that the nats strategy could be to let SS go and redraft him w/ the number 1 pick not 1a.

Posted by: dcsportsfan1 | July 24, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

@Scooter, yeah that's true about the teammates. But presumably the scouts are not at every game, so we do win some. And maybe I'm a pitcher.

I forgot to add that I then go to junior college AND get hot when the scouts are around. I hire Boras to make sure the scouts show up. Do I retain my free-agent status?

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

Nats_Lady, if you've seen "Bull Durham," you know there's another word that is more effective than FU when trying to get the umpire to eject you. If you haven't seen the flick, I'm not sure I can even hint at the description of the word here, especially to a lady. Just trust me, it would work.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 24, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

@NATSLady

All that gets you ia (a)drafted in a very low round and either signed for peanuts or (b)not signing. Also, you may blow your collage scholarship (fool one scout fool them all). Plus, have you ever heard of a minor league free agent signing that was expensive? If one wants the big buck one has to show the wares.

Sec 204 Row H Seat 7

Posted by: adhardwick | July 24, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

@baltova, I saw Bull Durham so long ago I forgot it. Will rent it again. :)

If I'm smart enough to fool the scouts, I'm probably smart enough to get a scholarship based on, y'know, grades and SAT scores.

And, as a free-agent, if I have the talent of a Bryce Harper or a SS, I would work the system and not be bound by the draft to play for a team like the Nats--just sayin'.


Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

You're having fun with this, aren't you, Nats_Lady?

You were no longer a free agent after you entered a junior college. From that MLB thingie before: "A player who is eligible to be selected and is passed over by every Club becomes a free agent and may sign with any Club *until the player ... enters, or returns to, a junior college*." [asterisks mine]

Posted by: Scooter_ | July 24, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Nats_Lady, the clip is on YouTube in all its profane glory. Very funny and totally NSFW or for watching with the kids around.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 24, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I'm having fun. I read that part. The way I interpreted it was that if I decided to resume my education, I should stay in school and can't be drafted while I'm in school, not that I lose my FA status. I mean, why should I be penalized for educating myself?

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, baltova. Since I am both at work and surrounded by kids, I'll have to wait on that clip til I get home.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 24, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

I don't think it benefits Strasburg or Boras to not sign this year and wait until next year.

1st the player will typically make less money next year after sitting out a year. (Aaron Crow rejected 3.3 mil last year, and will probably sign for 1.5-2.0 mil this year with the Royals. Both Crow and his agents have lost money).

2nd If Boras gets the reputation of not signning clients, for say two years in a row (Strasburg/Harper) than his clout deminishes.

3rd This is about money. Boras' commission is 15%. If Strasburg requests is 20 mil, that is 3 million dollars commission. If Nats don't only offer him say 15 million, and Boras holds him out. Then next year Strasburg is drafted 3rd overall and say gets a bonus of 10 mil, then, boras looses 1.5 million in commission.

Ultimately Boras will get his client signed. Strasburg will get about 15 million. Boras will pocket 2.2 million this year, and probably another 1-2 million next year for Harper.

Posted by: wrw0601 | July 24, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

wrw0601, in our world, AKA the real world, you're right. I keep picturing this scene, where Strasburg rolls into his mom's house, and says, "Mom, we decided to turn down that $18 million deal from the Nats. We think we can get more next year. So, meanwhile, I'm crashing here if that's cool. What's for dinner?"

That would go over well.

But the truth is, Boras has had success doing this in the past (Varitek, for one, I believe). He's already got that reputation and some kids go to him because of it. They think he'll hold them out until they get top dollar.

Me, I'd think $15-18 million is more than enough and I'd go out there to show everybody what I've got so I can get to The Show, where, "You hit white balls for batting practice, the ballparks are like cathedrals, the hotels all have room service, and the women all have long legs and brains."

But that's just me.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 24, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

The problem with Strasburg and Boras is that Boras' adversary is the system, and not the Nats. In that respect, he will find it difficult to bargain in good faith with the Nationals, because he wants to break the Draft System, not the Nationals. That would seem to be a conflict of interest with his client... unless his client is really concerned about the system, too.

In order to achieve his goal of breaking the system, he has to walk away from the Nats, and into uncharted waters... waters that for years congress has protected for MLB by not messing with the antitrust exemption.

Boras is smart. Strasburg will sign... and in the process, affirm the draft system.

Posted by: wigi | July 24, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

BTW Aaron Crow STILL unsigned hmmmmm

Posted by: CBinDC | July 24, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

Aaron Crow is STILL unsigned because the Nats did not sign him. There was a $500,000 difference, which the Nats could use on a back-up utility infielder (in case Anderson Hernandez moves on).

Posted by: EdDC | July 24, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Crow hasn't signed yet, but he was reported to be very happy to be picked by the Royals and looks forward to signing and playing for them.

Posted by: ramgut | July 24, 2009 6:45 PM | Report abuse

"Aaron Crow is STILL unsigned because the Nats did not sign him. There was a $500,000 difference, which the Nats could use on a back-up utility infielder (in case Anderson Hernandez moves on).

Posted by: EdDC | July 24, 2009"

Apparently Rizzo may be a part of the A Hernandez deal. He is the one who traded for Mike Morse. Morse likely would be used to fill that role.

Ian Desmond looks like a potential starting shortstop candidate. Alberto Gonzalez at 2nd?

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 6:49 PM | Report abuse

KC is a much smaller and less affluent region than is our region. Nonetheless, their ownership tries harder than ours does. The KC payroll is significantly higher than is DC's, by 24 percent.

Here's a quote from Crow that has some relevance now in 2009:

"Honestly, I just hope for a better situation [next year] than it was with Washington," Crow said. "The way they dealt and handled everything, the way they talked to me and my family ... I think any of the 29 other teams would have handled it better. I'm just really looking to get into a better situation than I was dealing with the Nationals."

Posted by: EdDC | July 24, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

"The problem with Strasburg and Boras is that Boras' adversary is the system, and not the Nats."

Truism. Its all about the system. One wonders how much Strasburg will help the Nats given the history of such wunderkind.

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 6:57 PM | Report abuse

So far so good with Crowe's replacement Storen?

The only issue is that the "system" was compromised in a way by Crowe making the Nats seem like a less than hospitable place to go for prospects or potential free agents.

Posted by: periculum | July 24, 2009 7:00 PM | Report abuse

ridiculum

your boy mike morse is 6'4'', 230. no way he's gonna play 2nd base. his height, weight and lack of general defensive skills got him moved to corber IF and OF positions where he's less likely to hurt himself.

Posted by: surly_w | July 24, 2009 7:01 PM | Report abuse

Nyjer needs a day off about every ten games or so, just from the amount of running he has to do playing CF between Dunn & Willingham.

Posted by: BinM | July 24, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

KC is a much smaller and less affluent region than is our region. Nonetheless, their ownership tries harder than ours does.

That's just not true. KC's ownership has been notoriously cheap over the years and they're just as wealthy as the Lerners (the owner is a former CEO of Wal-Mart).

This, from Wikipedia, "During Glass' ownership (2000-2007) the Royals have averaged 96 losses, with only one winning season and four seasons with 100 or more losses, the worst sustained performance in the franchise's 39 year history."

Posted by: baltova1 | July 24, 2009 7:02 PM | Report abuse

periculum,

There was a $500,000 diference between signing Crow and not signing him. Yes, of course Morse could fill that role. I was just being flip or sarcastic about what that "saved" money could be used for. Who cares? It is just a rounding error for most teams, not worthy of discussion when reaching a major decision. Yet for the Nats, it made the difference between signing and not signing their top draft pick!

Posted by: EdDC | July 24, 2009 7:03 PM | Report abuse

new post.

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 24, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

@surly: Good point - I personally see Morse as a taller version of Kory Casto. A possible CI-LF-RF replacement with a 4-A skill set. If NJohnson gets moved & Dunn shifts to 1B, I could see him as a defensive caddy for Dunn for the rest of the season in 2009.

Posted by: BinM | July 24, 2009 7:09 PM | Report abuse

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