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Lineups, Minor League Report

Adam Dunn isn't in the lineup for this evening's game, but don't interpret that as a sign of an impending trade. Interim skipper/blogger/video blogger Jim Riggleman had mentioned on Tuesday that several of his regulars would receive off days this road trip. Dunn was due for an off day, having started every game since the all-star break.

Elsewhere... Bill Gluvna just passed along his latest minor league report. (Plenty of love and puns for Storen and Marrero.) Download it here.

MLR 7-29-09.pdf

Washington

Morgan - 8
Guzman - 6
Willingham - 7
Zimmerman - 5
Johnson - 3
Belliard - 4
Kearns - 9
Bard - 2
Mock - 1

Milwaukee

Lopez - 4
Counsell - 5
Braun - 7
Fielder - 3
Hart - 9
Cameron - 8
Hardy - 6
Rivera - 2
Parra - 1

By Chico Harlan  |  July 29, 2009; 4:08 PM ET
 
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new posted;

I say keep Willingham and Dunn, move Nick Johnson if possible (ditto that with Guzman, but too doubtful to be worth contemplating).

Move Dunn to 1B, Willingham to LF, bring Dukes back up to play RF (hopefully he's regaining his plate patience in AAA). Line-up would look something like this;

1. Morgan (CF)
2. Guzman (SS)
3. Zimmerman (3B)
4. Dunn (1B)
5. Willingham (LF)
6. Dukes (RF)
7. Bard (CA)
8. Gonzalez (2B)
9. Pitcher

I personally would prefer to swap Dukes and Guzman or if Guzman is traded then Dukes batting second, Willie Harris at 2B batting 6th and Gonzalez playing SS.

And how about this starting rotation for March '10;
Lannan
Zimmermann
Stammen
Detwiler
Balester

Martis, Martin, Mock and Chico either in AAA or the bullpen and Strasburg getting some seasoning in AA.

Here are the questions regarding Nick Johnson;

1. Is he a type B FA this winter?

2. Can he pass through waivers after Friday?

Posted by: estuartj | July 29, 2009 4:18 PM | Report abuse

"Adam Dunn isn't in the lineup for this evening's game, but don't interpret that as a sign of an impending trade."

Heh. Can't wait till we don't need this disclaimer any more for the Chicken Littles.

Or is that Chickens Little?

Gah.

Posted by: Scooter_ | July 29, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

answers re Nick Johnson

1) probably not

2) probably not

Posted by: bottomfeeders10 | July 29, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Re: Dunn not in lineup. Please note the piece in the dead fish edition this AM that Riggles told a number of his starters that he was going to give them some time off over the next week because of the long stretch of consecutive games with no break.

Also, please note that the voices of reason and stats reality will be absent from this board for the next 3 days as the SABR convention comes to DC. Begins tomorrow at the JW Marriott.

Posted by: Catcher50 | July 29, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Esturtj
As of right now Nick Johnson is a B free agent but barely... If he keeps slumping then he will probably lose it but if he gets hot again with BA above .300 then no worries.

As for the waivers, I dunno. It's hard to say. I would lean towards no.

Posted by: hleeo3 | July 29, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Probably the Nats need to make a trade for the same reason they fired Manny: You have THIS record and you are STANDING PAT????????

Posted by: Nats_Lady | July 29, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

Also just for fun obviously.

Dunn, Zimmerman are type A FA right now.

Willingham, Flores, Beimel, Johnson, Guzman, amd Lannan are type B

Posted by: hleeo3 | July 29, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

BTW, tonight's starting pitcher for the Orioles? Chris Tillman.

His mound opponent for the Royals? Zack Greinke.

Welcome to the bigs, kid.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

When Dunn crashed into the wall at Miller Park a couple of nights ago to catch a fly ball, he pretty much made a statement that "I want to stay." If I were management, I'd keep him after that display of heart.

Posted by: JohnRDC | July 29, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

And how about this starting rotation for March '10;
Lannan
Zimmermann
Detwiler
Balester
Martis
________________
Martin
Stammen
Mock
Arneson
_______________

The above list contains starters/ spot starters long relief spot starters. I think Mock/Martin/Stammen could be traded if they do not fit into "the plan" and likely will get a chance with some other club. True also for all the relievers except for Storen and probably Clippard.

Relief pitching:

Bergmann, Brunet, Storen[CL], Clippard, McDougal, Kensing, Beimel
____________________________________________

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 4:36 PM | Report abuse

Rizzo would do well to trade for:

> His mound opponent for the Royals? Zack Greinke.

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

estuart, et al: If you think, after signing a contract of $15-30M, that Strasburg will be anywhere but "Nats Town" in April 2010, you're nuts!

He'll be here by September if he signs!

Posted by: outsider6 | July 29, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

"When Dunn crashed into the wall at Miller Park a couple of nights ago to catch a fly ball, he pretty much made a statement that "I want to stay." If I were management, I'd keep him after that display of heart."

Posted by: JohnRDC

Yes, Dunn began to melt my cold, cold heart with that amazing slide into the wall. That may have been a signal to the rest of the team as well, in a series where a lot of good signals have been noted. (Contrast that to Corey Hart's misplays in the field--Dunn may have witnessed a doppelganger on the other side.)

Posted by: driley | July 29, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse


I think we should keep Johnson. The Mets would have been buyers, but with the season shot for them and Murphy improving it is not worthwhile.

Willingham, Zim, Dunn, Nick and Kearns are very close. So are the Young Guns. The team has more morale then many teams with much better records.Morgan is a one man wrecking crew for our opposition! We have some great talent in the minors and Strasberg is on the way, and so are the Nats!! Watch us!!

Go Nats!!

Posted by: nickgoldblatt | July 29, 2009 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Noting that if you read the minor league report there may be pitchers from that list on the roster next opening day ... they have all the opportunity one could possibly hope for ... all they have to do is grab it.

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 4:42 PM | Report abuse

from Chris Needham
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/The-Mystery-of-Jose-Morales.html

"So Morales flying into our lives wasn't some divine intervention from the Baseball Gods, but a promotion for an upcoming book. That certainly takes some of the magic out of it."
*****
Why would it? Just because the mystery of the where the card came from is solved? The point is, when it arrived, they started winning. Not why.

To paraphrase a wise man: If you think you are playing well because of a baseball card, then YOU ARE. And YOU should know that!

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I think if you look at the deals that have been done, anyone who was looking at the Nationals scraps has more or less filled those gaps.

The Mets are our only hope but, their farm system is really weak.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 29, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Brunet? What's his hair color got to do with it?
I know a "rounding third and headed for home/is a brown-eyed handsome man..."

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 4:49 PM | Report abuse

@periculum - I'd agree except I see Stammen having value in the bullpen. Either giving them 1-2 innings or coming in to get a DP grounder.

Posted by: sjt1455 | July 29, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, from Fox Sports:

Giants still scouting Nationals — 1:13 p.m.

While the Giants have acquired Ryan Garko and are engaged in talks with the Pirates about Freddy Sanchez, they haven't entirely closed off other options. One major-league source said the Giants have a scout in Milwaukee this week to watch the Brewers and Nationals.

The Giants have had interest in the Nationals' available bats for some time; corner outfielder Josh Willingham would probably be a better fit than Nick Johnson now, following the acquisition of Garko.

San Francisco has had well-below-average offensive production from left field, where Fred Lewis has made the majority of starts.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Someone noted in reference to whether character counts, "Joe Gibbs proved that 3 different times."

I'll note that it was with John Riggins and some of the best offensive lines in the history of football. Skillz, my friend.

Posted by: Section506 | July 29, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

catcher50, wish that SABR had coordinated with me first as I have other commitments this week. ;-)

Seriously, I'm bummed about it.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Nice job on the Crash Davis quote, sec3.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Making trades just for the sake of churning the roster would be a mistake. Entropy alone (not to mention the career of Jim Bowden) suggests they'll get worse that way, rather than better.
I think it's unlikely they'll be able to move Nick for anything useful, at this point, but you never know. Injuries can happen anytime, for one thing. I have no idea whether he's inclined to stay here after this year. Maybe he wants out, maybe he wants to stay; I dunno. But the odds of getting anything useful, either by trade or draft, are diminishing daily.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

True, but there's lots of people in AAA with skill. Felipe Lopez has skill--you want him back? I'd amend that. It's not character, it's attitude. Fear and Arrogance. Respect the game, even if you don't respect anyone else.

**********
Someone noted in reference to whether character counts, "Joe Gibbs proved that 3 different times."

I'll note that it was with John Riggins and some of the best offensive lines in the history of football. Skillz, my friend.

Posted by: Section506 | July 29, 2009 4:53 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

And Willingham would be an excellent fit for the Giants, but I'd ask for Sabean's wallet, watch, and ring, too.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:02 PM | Report abuse

"I'd amend that. It's not character, it's attitude. Fear and Arrogance. Respect the game, even if you don't respect anyone else."

Agree entirely with @sec3mysofa.

So, Mr. Dukes, hit .450 in AAA Syracuse ... we all know you can and perhaps are even capable of more!

Morgan hits .382 in 1 month in the majors ... so Mr. Dukes?

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

"from Chris Needham
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/The-Mystery-of-Jose-Morales.html

"So Morales flying into our lives wasn't some divine intervention from the Baseball Gods, but a promotion for an upcoming book. That certainly takes some of the magic out of it."
*****
Why would it? Just because the mystery of the where the card came from is solved? The point is, when it arrived, they started winning. Not why."

Chris Needham, always stretching to make a point and so rarely connecting. Talk about someone who's seriously lost his edge, and you're talking Chris Needham. As Dmitri Young is to playing baseball, Chris Needham is to baseball commentary. You're telling me he wasn't DFAed long ago? He sure should have been.

Posted by: nunof1 | July 29, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Fear and Ignorance?

Posted by: Bethesdangit | July 29, 2009 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Somewhere between now and next April, they need to come up with a serious couple of young middle-infielders, a real closer, and (perhaps among the arms extant?) a couple of competent bullpen arms for the 7th and 8th innings. LOOGies are always available, and always valuable. I'd like to see Hoffpauir at first, but that's just me.
Absent that, next year, it'll be the infield that kills them.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Not too excited about this line-up (Belly, Kearns), altho I like to seeing Willingham hitting 3rd for a change.

Posted by: slewis1 | July 29, 2009 5:10 PM | Report abuse

Some guys eat the opposition for breakfast in AAA, and get lit up in the Show. It happens. Alternatively, to quote Bruce Lee: "Boards don't hit back."

*************
Chris Needham, always stretching to make a point and so rarely connecting. Talk about someone who's seriously lost his edge, and you're talking Chris Needham. As Dmitri Young is to playing baseball, Chris Needham is to baseball commentary. You're telling me he wasn't DFAed long ago? He sure should have been.

Posted by: nunof1 | July 29, 2009 5:07 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

First time I've seen Enter the Dragon quoted here!

Posted by: slewis1 | July 29, 2009 5:15 PM | Report abuse

And Willingham would be an excellent fit for the Giants, but I'd ask for Sabean's wallet, watch, and ring, too.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa

In all seriousness, I wouldn't trade Willingham to the Giants for anything less that AAA Catcher Buster Posey.

Posted by: estuartj | July 29, 2009 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Let's see Jarrett Lee Hoffpauir ... a little old
for the minor league level he is at. Born in 1983.

plays 2B: hitting .298 for Memphis in the PCL
11 doubles, 1 triple, 11 HR 39 RBI 2 SB 1 CS OBP .370

Mike Morse a year older than Hoffpauir

plays 2B: was hitting .312 for Tacoma in the PCL had 14 doubles against 10 home runs with 52 RBI and an OBP of .370.

Now hitting .352 for the Chiefs in the IL. added 6 doubles, a triple and a home run. OBP .433

Totals: .322 49 runs / 65 RBI 12 home runs, 20 doubles, 1 triple OBP .387

Sure seems like Morse has a "go-getter" attitude about playing for the Nats? And we should like Hoffpauir because???

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 5:26 PM | Report abuse

I guess we know where Periculum won't be this week.

Posted by: WashOut | July 29, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

Micah Hoffpauir 1B looks like he is hitting .236 with 8 home runs. 'bout the same age as Nick Johnson who is hitting .295 right now but has spent most of the season over .300. He has 11 walks against 41 strike outs.

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

"I guess we know where Periculum won't be this week.

Posted by: WashOut | July 29, 2009"

Surly hmmm washout, as in stranded stuck to the toilet bowl dude?

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 5:31 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, as long as someone else brought it up:

If the OF next year is Dunn-Morgan-Willingham/Harris, I'm OK with that. I'd like a stronger 4th OF--what Kearns was supposed to be.

Zimmerman--??--??--?? looks like trouble.
Guz may re-sign but he isn't getting better.

Bard or Nieves would be a good backup catcher, but if either is starting, that means there's a problem. I'm not at all sure Flores is coming back.

Lannan--Stammen--Detwiler--maybe Mock or Olsen (if he's back, by no means a given)--maybe Strasburg later in the year, if he pans out--is a better rotation than they started with any of the last few years. Of course, that's not saying much. Still. If the duct tape holds, and the defense steps up, and they score a lot of runs... it could work.

Bench-- Willie Harris and hold tryouts for bats from both sides. Think depth. Most of these guys don't work here now.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:32 PM | Report abuse

You're thinking like a trader. Think like a mugger.
*******
In all seriousness, I wouldn't trade Willingham to the Giants for anything less that AAA Catcher Buster Posey.
Posted by: estuartj | July 29, 2009 5:20 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:33 PM | Report abuse

"Bard or Nieves would be a good backup catcher, but if either is starting, that means there's a problem. I'm not at all sure Flores is coming back."

True. And Rizzo has been promoting his catchers a bit faster than he should at least IMHO.

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Hoffpauir, because I think he's better than his stats (yeah, yeah, I know.), and bottled up behind Lee.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

WHY kearns instead of harris? oops, after sunday, i guess i have to give austin a break for a week or so.

Posted by: DCPowerGator | July 29, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Wouldn't Hoffpauir get "bottled up" behind Willingham or Dunn if they trade Johnson?

I guess the plan is to keep developing Marrero for now?

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 5:39 PM | Report abuse

Periculum,

Leave it to you to get nasty. I meant I am pretty sure you won't be at SABR. The Cliff Clavin society for know it all's without any knowledge maybe.

Posted by: WashOut | July 29, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

What IS it with you two?? KITFO, you're annoying the horses.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:46 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking of him at first, with those two mostly in the OF. But it ain't never gonna happen, so ...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

Play nice or you'll end up like this:
http://tinyurl.com/6jlna7

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 5:50 PM | Report abuse

Actually Hoffpauir the 2B caught my eye. They do need MI help. Lombardozzi seems a long way yet and this year's 2nd rounder is already on the DL. Seems like they might be able to make a deal with the Cardinals ... I'm not sure Morse is the kind of guy you play everyday at 2nd.

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

belliard and kearns, no dunn and mock is pitching, this one could be ugly, how willie doesn't crack the lineup is beyond me nyjers been great and of course willie ain't in center anymore but damn he was our best player for the couple weeks he was starting and now the gaping hole at second is willie-less yet again with kearns in right to boot

Posted by: bford1kb | July 29, 2009 6:00 PM | Report abuse

GO Nats! Let's make it the longest win streak this season! (Although I'm not feeling that confident with Mock on the mound, but Manny Parra isn't that great either.)

Posted by: rachel216 | July 29, 2009 6:01 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, with all of the talk about how much better the Nats have been playing of late, here's their month-by-month record:

Split W L RS RA WP
April 5 16 94 124 .238
May 9 20 147 184 .310
June 9 17 89 123 .346
July 9 15 112 113 .375

So, yeah, they've gotten better. But .375 isn't good. That adds up to 61-101 for the season. You know, what they did last year.

So does sticking with what they've got now, with minimal changes, really make sense?

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2009 6:03 PM | Report abuse

There's something interesting happening in Seattle...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Concur, baltova. Flip Willingham and Johnson and Harris and Beimal. We need some talent. Of those four, Willingham is the best to stay, but remember he will likely never be more valuable than he is right now.

On a personal note, I was wrong two years ago when we were in this same situation and I passionately argued to keep Dmitri and less passionately Belliard.

Posted by: Section506 | July 29, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

For the last six innings and 79 pitches at least, 1a.

Posted by: Section506 | July 29, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

Probably just rain...

_________________________________________________________

There's something interesting happening in Seattle...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 6:05 PM

Posted by: TimDz | July 29, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

C'mon, 1a1, we need details.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Crud.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 6:11 PM | Report abuse

Way to go, 1a. Your fault.

Posted by: Section506 | July 29, 2009 6:12 PM | Report abuse

Ryan Rowland-Smith (Aussie alert) was no-hitting the Jays.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

I know, 506. I *knew* I should have had my Jose Morales card with me.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 6:14 PM | Report abuse

I think the strategem that says collect really good pitching prospects, and as many as possible, makes good sense.

Posted by: periculum | July 29, 2009 6:17 PM | Report abuse

An old sports maxim I really believe in:

"It's better to make a move a year early than a year late."

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

By the way, is Boras still comparing Strasburg to Dice-K?

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

From SI.com:

The Mets determined on their organizational conference call Tuesday that they are buyers and could use a left-handed reliever. Among the names that fit them are the Nationals' Joe Beimel, the Pirates' John Grabow and the Blue Jays' Scott Downs. The Mets feel they need to give the well-used Pedro Feliciano a break, though they presumably do have Billy Wagner returning sometimes in August.

The main theme of the call, though was that the Mets will not mortgage their future. In other words, they will not trade Jenrry Mejia, Brad Holt, Ike Davis, Fernando Martinez or any of their other top prospects.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

which pretty much means Beimel can stop humming "New York New York"

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 29, 2009 6:55 PM | Report abuse

Sooo, we shouldn't start spreading the news?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Phillies just got Francisco and Lee (cheap for 1.5 years) for 2 future bench guys, a head case SP, and an 18 year old with upside - wow.

(rhetorical) Why couldn't we send them Balester, Padilla, Rooney, and say Smoker for the same thing?

Posted by: goexpos2 | July 29, 2009 7:04 PM | Report abuse

Pirates traded Freddy Sanchez to Giants for AA pitcher.

Posted by: cokedispatch | July 29, 2009 7:37 PM | Report abuse

@estuartj - I am with you! DITTO

I say keep Willingham and Dunn, move Nick Johnson if possible (ditto that with Guzman, but too doubtful to be worth contemplating).

Move Dunn to 1B, Willingham to LF, bring Dukes back up to play RF (hopefully he's regaining his plate patience in AAA). Line-up would look something like this;

1. Morgan (CF)
2. Guzman (SS)
3. Zimmerman (3B)
4. Dunn (1B)
5. Willingham (LF)
6. Dukes (RF)
7. Bard (CA)
8. Gonzalez (2B)
9. Pitcher

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | July 29, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

Wow. 68 comments before the game has even started. The Nats' streak has really pumped up the NJ crowd. Awesome.

Tuesday night is another T-shirt night at Nats Park. This time the shirts say "You know you're a Nats fan if...." and then have a list of 10 or so items, none of which I can read on the promos at the park or on MASN. So what are our ideas? I expect they are alot less snarky than they were two weeks ago. Then my first thought would have been:

"You know you're a Nats fan if...
You're glad when the Nats' number 8 hitter makes the third out in the bottom of the sixth because then our starter can pitch another inning."
or
"You console yourself about yet another blown save by remembering that we're that much closer to winning the Bryce Harper sweepstakes."

Now,

"You know how many National Leaguers have hit two grand slams in a single game (3)."

or "You're having a hard time imagining the team without AD, NJ, or JW."

Posted by: Section222 | July 29, 2009 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Trying to catch up, & failing miserably - in no particular order...

@baltova: "By the way, is Boras still comparing Strasburg to Dice-K?" - Yes, and he can, because they're both "diva-like" SP's represented by the Devil Incarnate.

@periculum: "Bard or Nieves would be a good backup catcher, but if either is starting, that means there's a problem. I'm not at all sure Flores is coming back." - Bard is fine if he's in a starting or in a platoon situation behind the plate. If not, he can become a cancer, imo. Flores should come back in '10, but they need some depth beyond Nieves for '10.

Posted by: BinM | July 29, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

New post.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 29, 2009 7:54 PM | Report abuse

you know you're a nats fan if you're actually a marlins fan

Posted by: bford1kb | July 29, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

I just knew I'd be newposted, so I'm reposting, So there.


Wow. 68 comments before the game has even started. The Nats' streak has really pumped up the NJ crowd. Awesome.

Tuesday night is another T-shirt night at Nats Park. This time the shirts say "You know you're a Nats fan if...." and then have a list of 10 or so items, none of which I can read on the promos at the park or on MASN. So what are our ideas? I expect they are alot less snarky than they were two weeks ago. Then my first thought would have been:

"You know you're a Nats fan if...
You're glad when the Nats' number 8 hitter makes the third out in the bottom of the sixth because then our starter can pitch another inning."
or
"You console yourself about yet another blown save by remembering that we're that much closer to winning the Bryce Harper sweepstakes."

Now,

"You know how many National Leaguers have hit two grand slams in a single game (3)."

or "You're having a hard time imagining the team without AD, NJ, or JW."

Posted by: Section222 | July 29, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse

The most recent Pirates' trades just sadden me as a baseball fan - 14 straight losing seasons, and they just keep churning good players for "prospects".
The past greats (and the remaining fan-base) from that once-proud franchise must be filled with anger.

And you think the Nationals have it bad.

Posted by: BinM | July 29, 2009 8:17 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking it was like the Pirates were taking Boz' Nats advice to heart - blow up the team. It is sad.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 30, 2009 6:33 AM | Report abuse

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