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Nats Tweets of the Night

I liked this exchange between the folks Twittering from Nats Park/with a #natswp hash tag last night:

@lwb2: If you pretend the Nats are a .500 team they are pretty exciting to watch most games.
@jdonels if I pretend the Nats win the World Series, I don't even have to come to the games.

Other highlights from out experiment in in-game reports via Twitter:

- This nice view from @Section138

- Ed Henry of CNN posted a pic from BP.

Thanks for participating and/or reading -- they're all available on our Nats Park Fan Tweets page -- and I'll look for more tonight!

By Jon DeNunzio  |  July 22, 2009; 11:42 AM ET
 
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So, when my children ask when journalism left it's death throws and, actually died, I will tell them the first day I saw tweets reported by a supposedly respectable news publication.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 22, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

*on the electronic blog that stood in for column space in a supposedly respectable news publication.

Posted by: Section506 | July 22, 2009 12:04 PM | Report abuse

strangers in the night,
exchanging glances

strangers in the night,
what were the chances

we'd be sharing Tweets
before the night was through...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 12:19 PM | Report abuse

leetee, flynnie: it might just be my spin on it, but it seems that some of the commenters on NJ just need a "whipping boy" - Someone they can focus their anger on. Guzman's the target du jour who's range was exposed between Harris & Belliard. He looked fine last night, flanked by RZim & AGonz.

Posted by: BinM | July 22, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

You nailed it, BinM.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 11:47 AM
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May I add an AMEN!!!

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 22, 2009 12:20 PM | Report abuse

But therein lies the problem with Guzman... he's clearly capable of efforts like last night.

When he feels like it.

Posted by: outsider6 | July 22, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

Someone asked Nieves to spell out the difference in the clubhouse now that Riggleman is managing. The man has a lot of intelligence to go with a lot of class. "Jim talks a lot. He keeps it positive - just like Manny."

Posted by: flynnie321 | July 22, 2009 6:26 AM

I was struck by the Nieves quote as well, Flynnie. I also thought that he looked quite sad for a moment after saying it.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 7:08 AM
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Wil Nieves is a reason to root for the Nats. He stayed positive, even when benched in favor of Josh Bard who was playing in agonizing pain, and he stepped up with great catching and timely hitting.
They need to have him on TV more.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 22, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

FromtheEclipse

Sorry, I was having Jose Vidro flashbacks. Charlie and Dave usually say "Just out of the reach of Guzman."

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 22, 2009 12:31 PM | Report abuse

Thanks to theredskinn for this, from Gordon Edes, who used to cover the Red Sox for the Globe, and wisely bailed for Yahoo.com.

"National insecurity: While the highly respected Mike Rizzo proceeds in Washington as if he will remain the Nationals’ GM on a permanent basis, the reality is that he still wears the interim label. Manager Jim Riggleman is also an interim hire and the contracts are expiring at the end of the season for many of the other key operatives in baseball operations. That only fuels speculation that Nationals ownership is considering hiring a new GM empowered to clean house and bring in his own staff. The Nationals already function on a short-staffed basis in scouting, where they only have 3½ pro scouts (including part-timers and not including advance men). The Yankees, by contrast, have a major league-leading 15, with the Rays right behind at 14."


The Lerners don't listen to their baseball people. This is inexcusable.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 22, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

My momma done told me
When I was in knee pants
My momma done told me
Son, you go to ballpark
You think of some cool snark
And post it all on Tweets
You miss most of action
But get satisfaction
As you Tweet in the Night

Posted by: leetee1955 | July 22, 2009 12:41 PM | Report abuse

Isn't it great to be part of a team that has a stand selling Mets hats, tweets and no general manager or international free agents.

Does anyone else miss baseball? I miss baseball.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 22, 2009 12:45 PM | Report abuse

Pirates 1B Adam LaRoche has been traded to the Red Sox. I think we can cross the Sox off the list to acquire Nick Johnson ...

Posted by: erocks33 | July 22, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

But not Zimmerman.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 22, 2009 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"The Lerners don't listen to their baseball people. This is inexcusable."

Seems like your complaint is that the Lerners don't have enough baseball people, not that they don't listen to the ones they have. Wouldn't you say?

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | July 22, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

If I might offer a slightly more nuanced take on the whipping boy phenomenon.

When the team is failing this consistently, somebody to blame provides relief. Whew, okay, maybe things are bad, but just fix this one thing and they'll be good again!

But baseball is a game of averages of individual moments, not the game of once-in-a-lifetime catches like football (except in the post-season, which, like football, is made exciting by a limited number of games -- another reason the playoffs are always inferior to the regular season).

So our mind has trouble differentiating between not hitting the ball 7 out of ten times a player steps into the box and not hitting the ball 8 out of ten times a player steps into the box.

We remember things like double plays, because they're so rare, but how accurate is our memory of who grounds out or who flies out more? We remember the 80% ground outer, but what about the 60% ground outer?

We also remember errors and poor defensive plays. Because between 50% and 80% of every play in any given baseball game will be a routine out, when something goes wrong it screams at us.

So we pick on poor defenders, like Guzman, when not getting it done at the plate, like Zimmerman in the last month, gets excused. But the runs Guzman lost us in the last month are definitely less than the rallies Zimmerman killed.

Posted by: Section506 | July 22, 2009 1:12 PM | Report abuse

Tweets sent without a section number, smiley, photo, or 'fail' aren't categorized in any way.

#natswp 315 We're out of ice cream up here!
...section number is relevant

#natswp did the guy who threw the home run ball back on the field just get escorted out?
...section number is not relevant

#natswp I think Johnson would have dug that throw out, Dunn.
...section number I'm sitting in is not relevant.


...and maybe we should make a section for people who aren't in the park (google for Phillies and "700 level")

Please add a categorization for stuff w/o section number.

Posted by: ihatewalks | July 22, 2009 1:21 PM | Report abuse

Excellent ditty there, leetee.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Profound post, 506. And this from a Pirates fan on MLB trade rumors re: Pirates trade Adam LaRoche to Red Sox:

Pittsburgh Pirates trade Jack Wilson to the redsox for 2 hotdog venders at pnc park.

Posted by: pirates in 2011 | July 22, 2009 at 12:04 PM

With the Lerners running the Nats on a shoestring, we should pay attention to Pirates fans - we'll learn some needed riffs and moves.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 22, 2009 1:23 PM | Report abuse

However, if we ever stage a fan protest, we probably should not model it on the one in Pittsburgh (AKA the day that Don Sutton barked at NatsNut). :-D

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

That's "S-C-H-N-E-I-D-E-R," Don...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

ihatewalks:

Great ideas. Harder to implement, but we will work on it.

Thanks!

Jon

Posted by: Jon DeNunzio | July 22, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, Jon. :)

Not sure how all this will turn out, but I'm giving twitter this one last chance to prove relevance before I swear it off for IRL.

Posted by: ihatewalks | July 22, 2009 1:31 PM | Report abuse

Re: LaRoche to Redsox. Everyone wants to deal with the Pirates. After they took Milledge - Hanrahan for Morgan - Burnett and got their long term offers rejected it's clear they pln to cut asnd run. I would prefer to keep Johnson rather than get low level prospects and get the FA compensatory picks.

Posted by: SackMan | July 22, 2009 1:36 PM | Report abuse

So, when my children ask when journalism left it's death throws and, actually died, I will tell them the first day I saw tweets reported by a supposedly respectable news publication.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 22, 2009 11:58 AM |
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Amen to that. If I cared about what was being tweeted by other fans, I'd check it out on Twitter. Don't we have enough comments here from Nats fans? What are these tweets supposed to add?

Posted by: fischy | July 22, 2009 1:38 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the Pirates got a role player infielder, who starts for them, but probably sits the bench for other teams. A right hander who is a 4/5th starter or more likely a 6th/7th situational bullpen guy.
Bottom line the Pirates acquired marginal players for a 7.5 mill 1B who will likely reach Type B status in the winter and could have returned a 2nd/3rd round draft pick compensation. What does this mean for return on injury prone Nick Johnson? Sure he is cheaper, and has a bit more power/average than LaRoche. but Nick will not earn Type B status in the winter. So it looks like you let him be a free agent next year and get nothing, try and resign him to a 1-2 year deal, or trade him for some A/AA players from the Giants/Mets.

Posted by: wrw0601 | July 22, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Lannan is 7-7 with a team that may end up sporting one of the worst records in MLB history. Yeah, I guess he's an ace, sorry to disagree with everyone on that. And a left handed ace to boot. Bonus.

Sorry to disagree with all the pundits but I still think the best tweet has to go to:

Best "tweet" of the night has to go to:

Section138: My wife just admitted she'd give "serious consideration" to charging the mound if Wil got hit by a pitch. Ah.... love.

Posted by: periculum | July 22, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Does LaRoche at 1st and Youk at 3rd make the Red Sox sparkly at the corners?

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 22, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Makes me think that NJ would have returned a little more. Both Nick and LaRoche will be free agents after the season. Nick has better OBP and AVG and is a better fielder. LaRoche has more power.

Posted by: dclifer97 | July 22, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Pirates didn't get much for LaRoche: In exchangethe Red Sox will send Double-A shortstop Argenis Diaz and Single-A pitcher Hunter Strickland (righty - maxes out at 90) to Pittsburgh once the deal is finalized.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 22, 2009 1:53 PM | Report abuse

Nick will not earn type B status because rating are based on last two years performance, and Nick didn't log enough playing time last year.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 22, 2009 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Have to see what happens with Strasburg before making any final judgment as far as the Lerners. Suspect that they will get a hailstorm of criticism if the Nats fail to sign him.

Posted by: periculum | July 22, 2009 1:55 PM | Report abuse

fischy: "What are these tweets supposed to add?"

This may have been rhetorical, but I'll answer anyway. Twitter is a way people at the game -- and we all know the experience at the game is different than watching at home -- to post observations live. It's something you can't really do on the blog with a mobile device (although that may change in the near future).

Some tweets are obviously more informative than others. Anyone can say they are happy the Nats won, but if we saw a lot of tweets from the lower decks about poor customer service, that would be useful, right?

It's an experiment for us, really, and I think we've gotten a lot of good tweets from the people out at the park. As I have said, we'll keep watching and tweaking. Feedback is always welcome.

And as I often say, I know Twitter is not for everyone. But I promise you that this effort is not taking away from the regular coverage Chico & Co. provide ...

Thanks again,

Jon

Posted by: Jon DeNunzio | July 22, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

"So, when my children ask when journalism left it's death throws and, actually died, I will tell them the first day I saw tweets reported by a supposedly respectable news publication."

Or it could be the day we realized no one was left to read it who could spell, or punctuate a sentence competently.
Just sayin.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

"Nick has better OBP and AVG and is a better fielder."

Love Nick and I hope the Nats keep him, but he is absolutely not a better fielder than LaRoche. LaRoche has more range, and doesn't have circus-music syndrome on pop-ups. And, oddly enough, they each have exactly the same number of total chances thus far this year (836). LaRoche has one error; Nick seven.

Posted by: joebleux | July 22, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Do you remember passing notes in class? Snarking to the person next to you during a presentation at work? MST3K? It's become acceptable. That's what teh twitter is. Not good, not bad--just is.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

"doesn't have circus-music syndrome on pop-ups"

that made me laugh.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

There was a discussion this morning on Mike & Mike (with Buster Olney I think) about the need to revamp the MLB draft system. It has become a high stakes game of chicken that really benefits no one except perhaps the agents. A slotting system like the NBA seems to be the answer.
Besides the difficulty of signing picks you have the clubhouse friction of having a drafted player who has done nothing at the ML level getting huge bonuses. Some of the agents are also asking for an immediate place on the ML roster in their contract terms. That kind of big money and high expectations can only create resentment in the clubhouse and enormous pressure to deliver.

Posted by: SackMan | July 22, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Grumble, grumble. Okay, Jon, I will stop being cranky about it and let people try it out.

Posted by: Section506 | July 22, 2009 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Sec3mysofa

That would have been an excellent little dig if you had managed not to finish you post with the phrase "just sayin".

There is a chance that, if your command of punctuation was better, you'd get the irony. However, I doubt it.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 22, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

After reading all the comments, I'm feeling a little bad that I dissed Guzman yesterday by suggesting that he needs to move to 3B.

I think that part of the problem is that for 54 games a year, we see him in comparison with Ramirez, Escobar, and Rollins (I have left out Reyes for obvious reasons). Offensively, Guz can hold his own in that group, but defensively he does not have the same range. So while last nights play was spectacular - it was also exceptional.

In any event, I wanted to go on record and say that I don't hold Guzman responsible for our record. I do believe, however, given the current composition of our pitching staff, that we need to be strong defensively up the middle. And I don't think Guz is the solution to meet that need.

Posted by: lowcountry | July 22, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

"Some tweets are obviously more informative than others. Anyone can say they are happy the Nats won, but if we saw a lot of tweets from the lower decks about poor customer service, that would be useful, right?"

Enjoyed one of the opening tweets on being greeted by "K-9 dogs" and an awful smell. The wife with a "crush" on Wil Nieves.

Posted by: lerici | July 22, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

Mystery Science Theater 3000?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 2:23 PM | Report abuse

soundbloke: "finish you post"?

And you want to be our latex salesman?

Posted by: joebleux | July 22, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Now, kids, don't make me come back there.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 2:25 PM | Report abuse

Under the heading of tweeting, snarking, troll baiting and flaming:

______________________________________________

Tony Bernazard, a New York Mets executive, recently challenged one of club's minor league teams to a fight during a postgame clubhouse tirade, the New York Daily News reported, citing multiple sources with ties to the team.

Tony Bernazard
AP Photo/Rick SilvaMets executive Tony Bernazard reportedly challenged the club's Double-A team to fight him during a recent postgame tirade.

Bernazard, the team's vice president for player development, pulled off his shirt and challenged the Double-A Binghamton Mets in the tirade, about 10 days before the All-Star break. He in particular targeted middle infield prospect Jose Coronado, according to the report.

The Mets will conduct an "internal investigation" of Bernazard, a major league source said, according to FoxSports.com.

Binghamton had gone 1-6 during an early July homestand that coincided with the outburst, losing three of those games by at least seven runs. The team was 37-58 and in last place in the Eastern League Northern Division entering Wednesday's scheduled games.

Posted by: lerici | July 22, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Boras does what he does out of an abiding love of liberty and a deep commitment to the free enterprise system, but I don't think the MPBPA is concerned about clubhouse chemistry, or the deleterious effects of performance anxiety on young players, either. The owners, too, want to keep more of the profit for themselves, which is understandable, but not necessarily in the best interests of baseball.

They charge what they can get for tickets. If I don't want to pay that, I don't have to, but then I don't get in. I'll go see to the P-Nats, or see a movie, or whatever. Fair enough. Enough people don't pay it, they lower the prices.

The players charge what they can get. If they owners don't want to pay, they don't have to. They can hire cheaper talent. If nobody is paying $50MM, then he won't get it. It's not like he can get $50MM in Japan--and good luck to him if he does.

I don't see the problem, once people get used to the idea. It's not fair that Henry Aaron and Willie Mays and pretty much everybody who played the game up to a few decades ago got paid a small fraction of what they were worth, but that's no argument against free agency.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 2:27 PM | Report abuse

"The Mets will conduct an 'internal investigation' of Bernazard, a major league source said, according to FoxSports.com."

WOW. They're strict!

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

On the Steven Strasburg unsigning:

An unnamed Nationals official countered by telling the Washington Times that the team is still confident it can sign Strasburg.


Keith Law's Take:
They'll get this deal done

"My opinion hasn't changed. A lack of evident progress is normal for a very high pick this far ahead of the deadline. It's also still very likely that he's going to sign. This speculation is coming straight from Strasburg's advisers, trying to put pressure on Washington, and to Rizzo's credit, he's refusing to be cowed by it and more or less called them out on the ploy by saying he won't negotiate through the media."

Posted by: lerici | July 22, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

"Just sayin." was metasnark.

and it's "if your command of punctuation WERE better"--subjunctive mood.

and I'm just teasin. don't take it personal, k?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 2:30 PM | Report abuse

make that "MLBPA"

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 2:33 PM | Report abuse

I miss when newspapers actually had and used reporters to cover stories such as ballgames, rather than inviting anyone to hop onto The Washington Post's reputation and file (er, twitter) away.

Posted by: greggwiggins | July 22, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Editors! Can't live with 'em, can't spell without 'em.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

joebleux - I recall two dropped pop-ups by Nick - one in Tampa and one in Houston - both lost against the white domes. Were there others I'm missing? You'll be needing your calliope for lots of fielders unfamiliar with those parks and the Metrodome, too.

Posted by: flynnie2 | July 22, 2009 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Bummer about the LaRoche trade to the Sox. The scenario of NJ going to Beantown was looking better and better. I don't mind keeping him and his .400 OBP, but I wonder what Rizzo and gang were asking for him?

Posted by: mo_dc | July 22, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

So what constitutes a bona fide offer to Strasburg? At what number do we draw the line. Is it a failure if the Nats offer the mythical golden egg of $50m and he still goes to Japan?

Posted by: lowcountry | July 22, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

No. I would like not to dyslexic. Then I would feel stupid when I get nitpicked by small minded people. It always makes me feel about two inches tall.

Now that is irony.

Posted by: soundbloke | July 22, 2009 2:50 PM | Report abuse

The Sox needed more than a loaner, so it makes sense why they would be happy to get one of the LaRoches. I know the hometown scorebooks are happy too.

Posted by: Section506 | July 22, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

flynnie, although I've watched almost every inning of Nat's baseball this year (god help me), I don't have all of Nick's plays on pop-ups mentally cataloged for handy reference.

I do know that even the ones he catches are adventures.

OK, and some quick googling yields, from the April 18 game at home against FLA:

"In the fifth, the Marlins scored a run with two outs when Jorge Cantu's pop fly to first hit off the heel of Nick Johnson's glove for an error allowing Hermida to cross the plate."


Posted by: joebleux | July 22, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

Anyone remember Meat Hook catching that pop and falling on his rear?

Posted by: Section506 | July 22, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

"Some tweets are obviously more informative than others. Anyone can say they are happy the Nats won, but if we saw a lot of tweets from the lower decks about poor customer service, that would be useful, right?"

All that would say is that the servers were giving bad service to people who would rather tweet than watch the ballgame. And really, would you blame them for that?

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | July 22, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse


"Bummer about the LaRoche trade to the Sox. The scenario of NJ going to Beantown was looking better and better. I don't mind keeping him and his .400 OBP, but I wonder what Rizzo and gang were asking for him?

Posted by: mo_dc | July 22, 2009"

Dunn could make a great DH in Boston. I wonder if he has been discussed?

Posted by: lerici | July 22, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I do, 506. It was hilarious.

Also, new post.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"I miss when newspapers actually had and used reporters to cover stories such as ballgames, rather than inviting anyone to hop onto The Washington Post's reputation and file (er, twitter) away.

Posted by: greggwiggins | July 22, 2009"

Hmmm, baseball perhaps, I might agree with guys like Siegel and Povich.

Having multiple perspective and opinions about things which affect one in the real world seems more of an advantage? There have been way too many times when a reporter or reporter[s] reporting of the news is biased by perspective and even opinion. You might base your opinion on that report, only to find later that your perspective might have been entirely different given all facts, and many perspectives:

Case in point: "Nigergate". Reporters and even the president claimed that Sadam was purchasing nuclear materials from Nigeria. In some Italian newspapers they were reporting that a guy (known as the BIGSPY] had fabricated the documents which were used as the "smoking gun" in order to prove his worth to French Intelligence. The Italian reports ended up being correct.

Posted by: lerici | July 22, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Twitter is such a flash-in-the-pan. Why doesn't Nats Journal encourage people to bring CB radios to the ballpark? 10-4 good buddy, got the hammer down and no bullpen.

Posted by: UrbanShocker | July 22, 2009 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a rally.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | July 22, 2009 3:31 PM | Report abuse

SI's I's Joe Posnanski has listed the 100 best players, and the Nationals only just make two of them. Any guesses? (No Kearns wasn't one of them)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

70. Adam Dunn, OF, Nationals
He walks and he hits home runs, just like always. Has an excellent shot of hitting exactly 40 home runs for the fifth consecutive season. Only Frank Thomas and Vinny Castilla have even done it two years in a row.

100. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B, Nationals
How can you not feel bad for Zimmerman, who continues to get better as a hitter and continues to play terrific third base for a dying Nationals team?

Posted by: twinbrook | July 22, 2009 3:32 PM | Report abuse

lerici, Siegel and Povich weren't reporters -- they were columnists. There's a big difference, even if a good columnist does some reporting in the process of preparing their column.

Posted by: greggwiggins | July 22, 2009 3:55 PM | Report abuse

I've had a subscription to the Post since I was 20 years old and before that it was delivered to our house. This tweetering idea is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

Who are the morons who are interested in what other people have to say at the ballpark? Who cares about a guy buying ice cream or the kid who caught a ball? I can see that on tv.

Whoever is pushing this Tweet thing needs to reconsider it and read the comments in this thread.

Posted by: MKadyman | July 22, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, because the 33 people who post here far outweigh the several hundred thousand on teh Twitter.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | July 22, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse

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