Network News

X My Profile
View More Activity
On Twitter: AdamKilgoreWP and PostSports  |  Facebook  |  E-mail alerts: Sports and Redskins  |  RSS

Boswell on Strasburg

Make sure to check out Boswell's column. Just a fantastic read.

Some Boras guys, such as Teixeira, go for the last dollar in every negotiation of their careers. But some don't, such as Matt Wieters of the Orioles and Strasburg. To his credit, Boras seems willing to represent some of both kinds, though he likes to get out his big-bucks bazooka more often. This time he fought for Strasburg, until 77 seconds were left.

"Scott was pretty darn good, very professional," said team president Stan Kasten, who has used Boras's name in sentences that would've made George Carlin blush.

"Wow," murmured Rizzo in disbelief, fresh from days of negotiations, including a shouting match between him and Boras filled with words that always get you ejected. Kasten simply listened to that one in awe: "A classic confrontation. I felt like a proud papa."

By Chico Harlan  |  August 18, 2009; 12:29 PM ET
 
Save & Share:  Send E-mail   Facebook   Twitter   Digg   Yahoo Buzz   Del.icio.us   StumbleUpon   Technorati   Google Buzz   Previous: The Strasburg Era Begins
Next: Tonight's Lineups

Comments

Thanks for the link and great reference to George Carlin LOL

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | August 18, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Mike Rizzo has done everything that could possibly be expected from him since taking over as interim GM. Not only should he be hired permanently ASAP, he deserves consideration for MLB Executive of the Year

Posted by: zav56 | August 18, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

It would be nice to put the cherry on the sundae and announce Rizzo's hiring as full-time GM. He has earned it.

Posted by: terrapin31590us | August 18, 2009 12:47 PM | Report abuse

Maybe happened, maybe not, but it's true anyway: Old Joe Kennedy was once asked how he managed not to lose his fortune in the crash of 1929, and he said, "Only a fool holds out for top dollar."

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 18, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Boz is our man

To hell with Wilbon

Posted by: Kev29 | August 18, 2009 12:59 PM | Report abuse

Kasten just stated on 980 that Strasburg was not going to pitch for the Nats during 2009 regular season. Going to Arizona Fall League.

Confirms what Boras stated earlier today.

Posted by: Brian_ | August 18, 2009 1:00 PM | Report abuse

Boswell writes....So, get off his case. (Forget that I'm the one who has been on his case.) Well, at least until the offseason when, at a minimum, he needs to buy his last-place bunch a free agent starter and a quality reliever. For now, just say, "Thanks, Ted." Since he bought the team, he has barely heard the words. Maybe the novelty will spur more spending.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanks Mr. Lerner. What I am most impressed with is you have done this past year what you said you would do. You got the Free Agent HR hitter and got Ryan Zimmerman signed long-term. You made some good trades and you made some tough decisions this year.

Many thought you couldn't pull off Strasburg, and you did.

Now, the fanbase needs to reward the Nationals and start buying tickets so the revenues can justify getting a top line relief pitcher for 2010 and a 2nd baseman who can do it all.

I think the Nationals should also thank those that are now 5 year season ticket holders. Hard to believe this is the 5th season!

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | August 18, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

To Mr. Boswell,

Good work. Very good piece, bringing closure to the whole experience.

To Mr. Lerner (et al.),

Thank you. The past 3 months have finally felt like somebody was in control of this ball club. I hope this progress continues for a long time.

To both of you,

Don't worry, I'm sure I'll be ready to rip you apart in a week. Until then, Thanks.

Posted by: cheeseburger53 | August 18, 2009 1:13 PM | Report abuse

Another point: BA says the Nats spent the most any team has ever spent on a single draft this year. We've signed 9 of our top 10 picks, 13 of the top 15 (I could be wrong about that second set) and 25 of our top 30 picks. That's good.

Posted by: cheeseburger53 | August 18, 2009 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Did anyone see/read the article on the Nats wives in yesterday's paper -- in the "Style" section, apparently (I just spotted it in a link from Boz's article).

Talk about BURIED in a location no Nats fan would ever find and no non-Nats fan would make the time to read. Evidence: ZERO comments.

Anyway, I want to praise Kate Kilpatrick for a good article that gives a glimpse into some difficulties of being not only the wife of a MLB player (or a yo-yo back to minors), but a wife of a player on the worst team in baseball (Not for long!).

Even if we acknowledge it's not like the bus leagues or like bagging groceries, I think it isn't the easiest thing either. IMO, Worth the read: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/16/AR2009081601528.html

Posted by: mo_dc | August 18, 2009 1:26 PM | Report abuse

Please enlighten me, what is the 'Mike Epstein curse'? (was newposted)

Posted by: twinbrook | August 18, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Javelinas here we come! Getcher Peoria Javelinas souvenirs while they're hot.
Wait, that's Arizona; they're always hot.

We also get to hear about the Surprise!! Rafters again! (But they never announce their lineups until gametime.)

***************
Kasten just stated on 980 that Strasburg was not going to pitch for the Nats during 2009 regular season. Going to Arizona Fall League.
Confirms what Boras stated earlier today.
Posted by: Brian_ | August 18, 2009 1:00 PM |

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 18, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

SS new FoF! (Sorry, Zimm's, Lannon et al.)

Posted by: tomfoc31 | August 18, 2009 1:27 PM | Report abuse

Could all of this good karma lead to a Teddy curly W. Nah, that'd be too much to expect, or would it? Perhaps they'll save that for his first start.

Posted by: cokedispatch | August 18, 2009 1:28 PM | Report abuse

Okay Already!!! Thank you Ted and Mark Lerner also StanK too but most of all thank you Mike Rizzo for bringing respect back to this franchise and to the office of the General Manager and here's hoping you get what you deserve the permanent job as the GM of the Washington Nationals.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 18, 2009 1:29 PM | Report abuse

From Boz's article, I love it. Rizzo has the stones for this job. Make him permanent already! I for one attribute all the good signs we are starting to see from this ball club to Mike. Love what this guy brings to the table as a GM. Well done Mike.

...fresh from days of negotiations, including a shouting match between him and Boras filled with words that always get you ejected. Kasten simply listened to that one in awe: "A classic confrontation. I felt like a proud papa."

Posted by: jkraeg | August 18, 2009 1:39 PM | Report abuse

Rizzo deserves the GM position

What he has done:

- Traded for Nyjer
- Fired Manny (nice guy, but a bad manger)
- Signed Strasburg

N A T S ...nats...nats...nats!!!

Posted by: Nats1924 | August 18, 2009 1:40 PM | Report abuse

Thank you Mr. Kasten. Thank you Mr. Lerner. Thank you Mr. Rizzo. You guys are men of your word. Ps. Mr. Rizzo is a "trooper."

Posted by: abe13 | August 18, 2009 1:42 PM | Report abuse

> SS new FoF! (Sorry, Zimm's, Lannon et al.)

Nah. Tony Plush is the face of this franchise until further notice. Tony Plush will be assigning Strasburg's nickname shortly, I'm sure.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | August 18, 2009 1:47 PM | Report abuse

Thom Loverro on 980AM now

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | August 18, 2009 1:48 PM | Report abuse

> Thom Loverro on 980AM now

Yet another reason not to listen. As if we needed one.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | August 18, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

You've got to be kidding. Seriously?

-----

JiM, Boras takes 5 percent, not 10.

Posted by: JohninMpls | August 18, 2009 2:00 PM | Report abuse

LOL. Loverro was asked by Kevin Sheehan, how do you improve for next year? Loverro says they need a top relief pitcher. Kevin says, ok, who do you get? Loverro, went speechless like he wasn't prepared.....

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | August 18, 2009 2:02 PM | Report abuse

Trade him now for $20 mil --- when was the last time a pitcher made good on the hype?

Posted by: marciwasserman | August 18, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

Trade him now for $20 mil --- when was the last time a pitcher made good on the hype?

Posted by: marciwasserman

*************

altogether now....

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

oops. i meant ALL TOGETHER NOW...

Strasburg can't be traded for a year.

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

My boycott is officially over. I am back. I never thought this would happen. Congrats to the Nats. With Nyjer leading off and now the Strasburg signing, there is really reason to rejoice and hope. I'll be at the park tomorrow night. Halleluyah!!!!!

Posted by: dovelevine | August 18, 2009 2:11 PM | Report abuse

"You've got to be kidding. Seriously?"

Seriously. Do a google search for "Scott Boras 5 percent" you will get many hits, including some authoritative profiles.

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | August 18, 2009 2:13 PM | Report abuse

No, Boz, he did not "choose here." He chose to play in the Major League system rather than sit out a year and, ultimately, make less money. That's really not much of an alternative. We chose him, and he just went along with it. Yeah sure it could very well change the face of baseball in D.C., and we're happy that he and the team came to an agreement, but don't make it out like Strasburg would rather play here than, say, San Diego. Or that he somehow left money on the table in order to play here.

Also, from the column: "Some Boras guys, such as Teixeira, go for the last dollar in every negotiation of their careers." Um...? Teixeira chose the Yankees even though the Nats offered him more money...

Posted by: WMPete | August 18, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

SS new FoF! (Sorry, Zimm's, Lannon et al.)

Nah. Tony Plush is the face of this franchise until further notice. Tony Plush will be assigning Strasburg's nickname shortly, I'm sure.
=====================================================
Uh-oh. Are we gonna have a FoF controversy?

Posted by: gilbertbp | August 18, 2009 2:21 PM | Report abuse

I agree with multiple posters on here. Make "The Riz" the GM and remove the "acting" title. The sooner the quicker.

The man deserves it. Nyjer and Burnett for Hanrahan and Milledge and now Strasburg signed for less than expected.

Don't look now but the Nats are starting to have the feel of an actual MLB franchise.

Job Well Done, Mr. Rizzo!


Posted by: Section505203 | August 18, 2009 2:26 PM | Report abuse

Um, I hate to break up the party, but there is a game tonight. Can we get lineups please?

Posted by: MBUSA | August 18, 2009 2:28 PM | Report abuse

> Uh-oh. Are we gonna have a FoF controversy?

When it comes to being face of a franchise, you gotta walk the walk not just talk the talk. Tony Plush walks the walk. Zimmerman and Strasburg just talk the talk. Actually they don't even do that. Others talk the talk for them.

No controversy. Tony Plush is the face of this franchise. Just try and catch him!

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | August 18, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

This was handled well by about everyone. The realization (on the part of Strasburg) that, financially, he was better off signing than holding out, etc. The announcement (by Boras) that he wouldn't pitch 'til AFL, thus precluding the arguments about starting in the Major Leagues or not as a financial decision re: Arbitration/free agency. Although, actually this was signalled very early on when the club (Rizzo?) said that he had already pitched over 100 innings this year and, at most, would be given a quick look, before being shut down.

Hope that he succeeds, but I'd still have picked Ackley.

Posted by: Catcher50 | August 18, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

It's nice that we actually have a choice as to who could be the FoF, instead of Zim by default.

The Strasburg signing is evidence that we are finally becoming the big market team that we should be. DC should be compared to Chicago and NY, not Pitt and KC. Way to step up Uncle Teddy!

Posted by: sec307 | August 18, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

Jim Riggleman, our manager, is the unsung hero in this whole Strasburg signing. He took a lowly Seattle ballteam at the end of last year and rallied them to the second worst record in Major League baseball beating out our Nats. Of course this allowed the Nats to get the #1 pick. It is ironic after getting released as interim manager in Seattle his reward is a possible franchise pitcher for the Nats.
Make Jim Riggleman the permanent manager. He has earned it in so many ways.

Posted by: dougb3 | August 18, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know how long the Nats control Strasburg? Is it only through 2012? Does he become a free agent at that point, or do the Nats control him subject to arbitration?

Posted by: ignoreland | August 18, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

Ronnie Belliard should be the FoF.

(...ducks, runs...)

Posted by: gilbertbp | August 18, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

Proud Papa, or proud boss of the OFFICIAL Nats GM? Get it done with, already, Rizzo deserves the shot.

Posted by: ajtrue78 | August 18, 2009 2:46 PM | Report abuse

Nobody with a goatee should be the face of ANY franchise.

Rules out Strasburg, Guzman, and Dunn.

Posted by: gilbertbp | August 18, 2009 2:48 PM | Report abuse

Sure great. Thanks Mr. Lerner. Nice start, finally. Strasburg has an incredible rookie season and what do we get: 35 starts, 25 decisions, and he goes 17&8. The guys who would have pitched in his place might have gone 8&17. So the net gain for the big money is 9 curly Ws. We're still well short of .500 ball. Several nice moves in a row, but major league baseball isn't an easy business, and the work goes on or what has been done so far is for naught. Now fill those defensive holes at 2nd and short with guys who can hit too and find those other starters and relievers and they'll all be working in October. Go Nats, Beat the Rockies.

Posted by: Infieldgallery | August 18, 2009 2:49 PM | Report abuse

I've been jawing away about how I wouldn't care if Boras and SS walked away, go ahead and call Boras's Japanese bluff, it will be gratifying to call out their greed, etc, etc.

But man, i completely understimated the elation and good will generated from this signing. This is bliss.

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 2:56 PM | Report abuse

There is a game tonite? thought so, lets focus on the task at hand and give the Rockies some payback and as Jackie Roosevelt Robinson would say "Lets Go".

Posted by: dargregmag | August 18, 2009 3:06 PM | Report abuse

I'm with you NN. I can not believe how giddy I have been feeling today. I have been unable to concentrate on work because I want to bask in the feel of us having signed Strasburg, and have been going to all the blogs and articles to keep the feeling up. Even though I'm not expecting him to pan out the way that we want (#1 starter, Cy Youngs up the wazoo, etc), I'm still so happy and giddy. Plus, the more I read about the deal, the better that I am feeling about it.

Posted by: LurkerNowPoster | August 18, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Umm, I think I meant to say "*out* the wazoo" Up could get, umm, uncomfortable.

Posted by: LurkerNowPoster | August 18, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

I can't wait for more articles. I want to read quotes from the family, quotes from the players, quotes from Tony Gwyn, his former teammates, his kindergarten teacher, all of it.

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 3:16 PM | Report abuse

For me, at least, a chunk of the good feeling today is due to the fact that some part of me was dreading the joyful, vindictive bloodletting that would have followed a failure to sign. The Nats have been the go-to punch line for the national sports media all season, and failing to sign the pick would have just created yet another opportunity for blowhards to bloviate. I can almost feel their disappointment. I'm grateful to have avoided those particular jabs and japes for the day.

Posted by: Section220 | August 18, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Can you imagine how Kasten and Rizzo must be feeling? I bet Rizzo's passed out cold right now from the adrenaline crash! LOL

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 3:22 PM | Report abuse

Jim Riggleman, our manager, is the unsung hero in this whole Strasburg signing. He took a lowly Seattle ballteam at the end of last year and rallied them to the second worst record in Major League baseball beating out our Nats. Of course this allowed the Nats to get the #1 pick. It is ironic after getting released as interim manager in Seattle his reward is a possible franchise pitcher for the Nats.
Make Jim Riggleman the permanent manager. He has earned it in so many ways.

Posted by: dougb3 | August 18, 2009 2:43 PM
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Great points! Thanks JIM RIGGLES!

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | August 18, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

No, I'll take your word for it. I'm just surprised.

Still, he represented how many first round picks in this year's draft? He's walking away with more than the $750,000 from the Strasburg signing.

But man, I wish he was my "advisor."

-----

Seriously. Do a google search for "Scott Boras 5 percent" you will get many hits, including some authoritative profiles.

Posted by: JohninMpls | August 18, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

"Does anyone know how long the Nats control Strasburg? Is it only through 2012? Does he become a free agent at that point, or do the Nats control him subject to arbitration?"

4-year deal means his salary is known for 2009-12. If he spends 2010-12 in the majors, his deal will expire and he'll be eligible for arbitration in 2013, 2014, and 2015. Nationals hold his rights until after the 2015 season ... at the earliest

Posted by: Brian_ | August 18, 2009 3:26 PM | Report abuse

I'm fairly certain that Strasburg's signing of this 4 year major league contract does not affect his arbitration eligibility after 2012. That is, in his 5th year, he will be arb. eligible like every other 5th year player.


==================||======================
Does anyone know how long the Nats control Strasburg? Is it only through 2012? Does he become a free agent at that point, or do the Nats control him subject to arbitration?

Posted by: ignoreland |

Posted by: comish4lif | August 18, 2009 3:29 PM | Report abuse

I just heard that written in the contract, as a final stipulation for signing, (and I mean this is essentially what got this beautiful signing done, it was written that:


1. a. Ronnie Belliard MUST stay at least 17.5 feet away from SS at all times, no exceptions.

1. b. Ronnie Belliard is NEVER to look directly into SS eyes, EVER.

1. c. Ronnie Belliard cannot smile at SS, send him an "air high-five", or even wink at SS.

1. d. Ronnie Belliard cannot request a translator to send SS personal messages of any kind.

Posted by: NatsandSkinsareclassclassclass | August 18, 2009 3:37 PM | Report abuse

If The Lerners and Kasten viewed these negotiations as Rizzo's final exam, by all means, he ACED it.

Remove the Interim...

Posted by: TimDz | August 18, 2009 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Washington Nationals. They're not just for interims anymore.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 18, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Willie will be plushin' it in Sec. 100L tonight.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 18, 2009 4:10 PM | Report abuse

T. is the Face, the Hat, and especially the Shades of the Franchise.
Zimm is the Pete of the Franchise.
Or so I'm told.
*********
Tony Plush is the face of this franchise until further notice. Tony Plush will be assigning Strasburg's nickname shortly, I'm sure.
Posted by: gilbertbp | August 18, 2009 2:21 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 18, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

According to Baseball America the Nats set a record for spending in a single draft...the cheap b*st*rds!

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1760

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | August 18, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Maybe you should have a sign with a shout-out to Nationals Journal, sec3. I'm pretty sure we'll know you by your attire, though, should you get on camera.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Leave us not forget the shirt...

---

T. is the Face, the Hat, and especially the Shades of the Franchise.
Zimm is the Pete of the Franchise.
Or so I'm told.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 4:14 PM | Report abuse

If they take the J Zimm route they will have control until 2016

Posted by: JDB1 | August 18, 2009 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Half of tonight's lineup from the MASN site:

Nationals

Morgan - CF
Guzman - SS
Zimmerman - 3B
Dunn - 1B
Willingham - LF
Dukes - RF
Gonzalez - 2B
Nieves - C
Stammen - P

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Hmm, I'll be in Scottsdale for Thanksgiving this year. Does the Arizona Fall League run that long? Anybody know?

Posted by: Juan-John | August 18, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Maybe if you're go out there early, Juan-John. There's a schedule here:

http://mlb.mlb.com/documents/2009/08/14/6422820/1/AFL_09_sked.pdf

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 4:30 PM | Report abuse

Geez. "If you go out there early." And I didn't even stay up late last night.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

Kasten said today that 2009 is year one, they are paying him a pro-rated salary for this year ($400k I think).

So he's under contract for 3 seasons (2011-2013), but he's under control for 2 more. In 2014-15 he can go for arbitration if he doesn't accept the Nats offer.

So the earliest we'll see him in pinstripes is 2014. :-) (assuming he wins the Cy Young in 2013, we win the world series that year, and the Yankees are still looking for a savior to bring them their first title since 2000)

Posted by: imlazar | August 18, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Lineups are up, courtesy of yet another person with "Steel" in her name.

Posted by: Scooter_ | August 18, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

My choice is Mike and it has been. Just hope Mark Lerner's Snyder-esque idiosyncracies do not get in the way of that.

Posted by: periculum | August 18, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

i can't do math - he's under contract 2009-12, 13&14 are arbitration years.

Posted by: imlazar | August 18, 2009 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Juan-John, The AZ Fall League season ends just before Thanksgiving; Nov. 21. There's a link on the MLB website at:

http://www.mlb.com/mlb/events/winterleagues/?league=afl

The site describes the eligibility rules as well. Each MLB team sends six prospects. Five must be AA or AAA on August 1, and each team can send one player below the AA level. Full details are at:

http://www.mlb.com/mlb/events/winterleagues/about/?league=afl&id=player_elig

Posted by: greggwiggins | August 18, 2009 4:59 PM | Report abuse

"Scott was pretty darn good, very professional," said team president Stan Kasten, who has used Boras's name in sentences that would've made George Carlin blush.

"Wow," murmured Rizzo in disbelief, fresh from days of negotiations, including a shouting match between him and Boras filled with words that always get you ejected. Kasten simply listened to that one in awe: "A classic confrontation. I felt like a proud papa."
_________________________________________

OK, I've been involved in negotiations for lots o' money. The company is in the entertainment business; multimillion dollar contracts are an everyday matter. They _never_ involved obscenities or epithets.

You cannot get emotional in contract negotiations. It's business, not personal. Display emotion, paint yourself in a corner and be prepared to be exploited by the other side.

My company internalized The Godfather. There's the Sonny Corleone move,and the Michael Corleone move. Always make the Michael move. Hollering and cussing is the Sonny move. Why am I not surprised Kasten likes the Sonny move.

Posted by: gbooksdc | August 19, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

The comments to this entry are closed.

 
 
RSS Feed
Subscribe to The Post

© 2010 The Washington Post Company