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Into The Night We Go

[UPDATE, 10:00 p.m.] -- It looks like Donovan Tate has signed.

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I'm at Nationals Park now. T-minus three hours. The Nats, right now, seem convinced that this will go past 11 p.m. A few media members are up here on the sixth floor in the press box, penned away from the true goings-on in the executive offices three floors below. But when something goes down, Stan Kasten et al will be talking. Smiling or not.

Check back for updates as they come.

Even I'm nervous, by the way. Curious and nervous.

A few other little blurbs for the night:

* Chris Marrero, the 2006 first-round pick (and possible first baseman of the future), has finally been promoted from Class A Potomac to Class AA Harrisburg.

* Drew Storen, the tenth overall pick this year, is hoping for a Strasburg signing.

* Still no news yet on No. 2 pick Dustin Ackley, of Seattle. The signs are pointing to a deal for Donovan Tate, the No. 3 pick, of San Diego.

By Chico Harlan  |  August 17, 2009; 9:05 PM ET
 
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WOOHOOOO....who's in for the long haul tonight!!! LET'S DO THIS! ARRRGGGHHHHHH!!!! $20 million tops!

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | August 17, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

I'm nervous too Chico.

Le'ts getter dun Nats!

Posted by: cabraman | August 17, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

I bet NJ will set a new record for hits between 11:45 and 12:05 tonight with all the F5-ing that is sure to happen.

Posted by: SorenKierkegaard | August 17, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

SIGN STRASBURG OR SELL THE THE TEAM YOU CHEAP $#% BASTAR$# !!!

Posted by: BarackObama | August 17, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I'll be watching MLB Network as midnight approaches. No F5 will be necessary.

Posted by: nunof1 | August 17, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

before strasburg, pitch, field, hit. after strasburg, pitch, field, hit. in the long run it doesn't actually matter if we get him or not.

Posted by: natty-bumppo | August 17, 2009 9:18 PM | Report abuse

Said it before will say it again, it will get done. Its too much money to pass up and too much risk waiting for the next draft.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 9:21 PM | Report abuse

Why did SI say he turned 12.5 million down? PLEASE SIGN, PLEASE.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 17, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Might be the most money he sees until he becomes a Free Agent and is signed by the Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Mets, Dodgers, Phillies, etc.

Posted by: ImWithStupid | August 17, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse

Thanks very much for the update Chico. You know how during a rain delay, Carpenter comes at the top and the bottom of the hour just to give an update, even if it's just "it's still raining"? That would be welcome here. I am just too nervous and curious to keep refreshing the page all night long. Checking back at 10, 10:30, 11, and 11:30 seems more reasonable. And then let the games begin.

Posted by: Section222 | August 17, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse

My guess is 6yrs $17mil guaranteed, $32mil max if he plays all 6 in the bigs.

If I was a betting man (and I'm not) I'd say no deal gets done.

Posted by: estuartj | August 17, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

I hate waiting and I'm so nervous. I def. can't sleep until I know. Guess I'll be up for the whole night. :/

Posted by: rachel216 | August 17, 2009 9:33 PM | Report abuse

And if he doesn't sign, there will be even more F-U'ing going on tomorrow morning...

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I bet NJ will set a new record for hits between 11:45 and 12:05 tonight with all the F5-ing that is sure to happen.

Posted by: SorenKierkegaard | August 17, 2009 9:13 PM

Posted by: TimDz | August 17, 2009 9:34 PM | Report abuse

Jim Palmer on the Orioles telecast tonight echoing what Dibble, Carpenter and Knight had to say about Strasburg the other night. Is he spouting the Lerner-Kasten party line too?

Posted by: nunof1 | August 17, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4403920

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | August 17, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse

I say a deal gets done if for no other reason than $$ would be turning down EIGHT FIGURES if he says no and would get crucified as greedy. I don't think Boras will let that happen. Even HE can't rationalize telling his client to pass up that much money.
I think the key will be how long it will take for $$ to make it to free agency.

Posted by: TimDz | August 17, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse

SIGN STRASBURG OR SELL THE THE TEAM YOU CHEAP $#% BASTAR$# !!!

Posted by: BarackObama
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I bet you watch on TV, don't you????? Please let us know where your season tickets are?

You are such a cheap tightwad you bought your fiance a piece of quartz and called it a diamond ring.

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | August 17, 2009 9:39 PM | Report abuse

Pete McElroy entitled, "Four Hours To Go", stating that, "...all of the Top 10 picks have signed except for Strasburg, even though they haven't been announced yet," which could be a good thing, Mr. McElroy believes, since "Scott Boras, Strasburg's advisor, now can give the Nationals his undivided attention since he also represents six other first rounders."

Posted by: rachel216 | August 17, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse

I usually don't do this on off nights, but I'm breaking out the bourbon and Maalox right now. I'm as nervous as I usually am with MacDougal on the mound in the 9th trying to hold a one-run lead. C'mon Stank, get the Lerners to cut the cobwebs from that wallet and pay the kid.

Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 17, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

NEVER!!and I repeat NEVER in all my years of following pro sports have i ever seen so much attention paid to an unproven athelete like Strasberg the fact that he has all of DC and baseball for that matter on the brink........ mind you he has not thrown one professional pitch but yet it seems the future of this franchise hangs in the balance i hope for our sake things work out because if he doesn't sign then the Lerners should be even more determined to bring this town a winner.

Posted by: dargregmag | August 17, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

Rachel - Hard to believe a player would want to live through the nightmare Aaron Crow has.

Strasburg will sign as Boras knows it won't get better next year.

Posted by: GoingGoingGone | August 17, 2009 9:43 PM | Report abuse

LOL@jdschulz50

Posted by: FloresFan | August 17, 2009 9:44 PM | Report abuse

Good call JD...I haven't been this wound up since we traded Hanrahan!

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | August 17, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

My last best guess for a contract offer on Strasburg is $15M bonus, $21.5-$25M total on a 5-year deal, based on incentives, including a 40-man roster slot from day one.

Either it gets done by midnight, or it doesn't.

Posted by: BinM | August 17, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Posted by: BinM | August 17, 2009 9:45 PM | Report abuse

This is typical posturing. He was never going to sign until 11:58 tonight anyway.

Or the Nats will botch this, too ;-).

Posted by: SavedByZero | August 17, 2009 9:46 PM | Report abuse

Chico

Any word about other Nats draft picks? Like Pena (5th)...rumor has him going to JCollege...Karns (12th), Davis (15th), Nicol (16th),or the long shot Stroman (18th)?

Posted by: sazzwho | August 17, 2009 9:47 PM | Report abuse

GoingGoingGone, yeah, Crow would be missing TWO years of pitching... Boras sucks!

106.7 is talking to Drew Storen. I like him A LOT.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 17, 2009 9:50 PM | Report abuse

The so-called Law of Attraction states that you attract what you are in vibrational attunement with. Sheesh, $220+ just hear something that is nothing new? A good positive attitude and a believe in what you are doing ... and appreciation for what you have?

The Nats are in the midst what is a really torrid August. They have developed a pretty damned good young middle-of-the-lineup that could be the envy of all of baseball. Their bullpen is coming around and they now have around 13-15 starting pitchers to take into consideration next year ... even without their #1 pick. And they have Ronnie Belliard the local poltergeist.

Things are getting better ... a lot better and in a hurry.

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

I hope he goes and plays Indy Ball and has tightness in the elbow.

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Mr Strasburg-

We must apologize, but we were forced to deny your application for a car loan. Please contact us again in 12 months.

Your sales team

Posted by: MyJobsMyCredit | August 17, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse

I commend the Front Office, if Boras will not come down on his price, for sticking to their guns

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse

Jdschulz50- same. This is more nervewracking than watching our bullpen with a one run lead. (Well, our old bullpen. I have more confidence in our new bullpen.)

Orioles are losing. =)

Posted by: rachel216 | August 17, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse

Strasburg won't sign. He wants to be a San Diego Padre and next season he can be one.

Posted by: lacrosseradio | August 17, 2009 9:59 PM | Report abuse

It's 10pm - do you know where you first round draft pick is?

Posted by: lowcountry | August 17, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

If he ends up as Padre I hope he ends up visiting Dr. Andrews shortly afterwards

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

People, the media is a business. IF they told you the truth, that there it is virtually a guarantee that the Nationals sign Strasburg tonight, then fewer people would be interesting in keeping up with the updates and speculation.

But make no mistake, there is virtually NO CHANCE the Nats let midnight come without signing their top pick. Anyone who beleives otherwise has simply been duped by the media.

Posted by: Barno1 | August 17, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse

Barno1 make sure you are around come 1201AM

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Reason number 37, why Strasburg will sign. Boras wants to declare victory on his terms. If Strasburg doesn't sign, Boras can't declare victory.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 10:04 PM | Report abuse

Stephen Strasburg the 2009 Version of Brien Taylor

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

10:06 PM Tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock

Posted by: cabraman | August 17, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Wait, the park is open? do we need press credentials to get in?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 17, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Next year, Scott Boras and Neal Huntington (Pirates GM) should be on Dancing with the Stars, Special Edition. The network will start promoting the show in June. The show will air at 11PM Aug 16th but no one will do any dancing until Bryce Harper starts the music at 11:50. The show will abruptly end at midnight, with Neal and Scott being announced as the winners at 12:10.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 10:11 PM | Report abuse

Barno,

You do remember that the Lerner's didn't sign their 1st round pick year don't you?

Anything is possible with these guys.

Posted by: Section505203 | August 17, 2009 10:13 PM | Report abuse

I know that tonight is all about SS, but the news about Kensing being released is also noteworthy news.
The guy absolutely stunk at his position. Back in April, this would not be a reason for release because the Nats were scared sh##tless about bullpen depth. Now, (finally!), we have a management attitude that says: "deliver or demote".
We're finally growing up as a franchise!
I hope SS blows off Boras' whispers and says to the "new/let's win" Nat's: "Let's play ball!"

Otherwise: I hope he knows he won't find trendy California rolls sushi in Japan. It's just plain ol'bait on rice, nothing else.
Enjoy playing for the Yakult Swallows. It's almost like real baseball!

Posted by: 1stBaseCoach | August 17, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Too Bad we can not trade him to the Yankees for Johnny Damon (rolling my eyes)

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:14 PM | Report abuse

It looks like the Padres discovered a winning strategy - we should've sent Strasburg to UNC for a week of Butch Davis's two-a-days to remind him of some of the real merits of baseball.

Posted by: lowcountry | August 17, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

And Donovan Tate is signed, so Boras got over slot for one Top 3 Pick so far.

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

whats its like being the historian in a ghost town, that must be neat

Posted by: formerlylove1 | August 17, 2009 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Formerly its Dead

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Jon Heyman at SI is reporting the Nats offer was only (I know I groaned when I wrote that) 12.5M. If that is their offer, not the 17M reported, then this is all a joke.

Posted by: RedBee | August 17, 2009 10:19 PM | Report abuse

Apparently Crow went from 11 mil to 3 mil in 10 minutes and didn't sign because of $500,000.00. How stupid is that? He's out 2.5 mil for 1/2 mil. I think the deal is done tonight and I don't have to wait up all night. I live in Hawaii. Midnight is only 6:00 pm here.

Posted by: firemetalrat | August 17, 2009 10:20 PM | Report abuse

Stephen Strasburg the 2009 Version of Brien Taylor

Posted by: gtownhistorian
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Then I guess if they sign him they just need to keep him out of the bars and night clubs!!!

Posted by: dkidwell61 | August 17, 2009 10:21 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please pop the bubble on top on Barass shoulders and let the ego out.

Posted by: RichC3 | August 17, 2009 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I keep reading and watching, hoping to see that Strasburg signed. Deep down, I know Boras won't let that happen for another hour and a half.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 10:23 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to in Hawaii right now ... although I can't complain ... :)

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

12.5 is more than enough, and if he ends up being redrafted next year Top 10 no team is going to go above 15

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:24 PM | Report abuse

I hope Strasburg ends up in Potomac with Holder and eventually, Dean Weaver.

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Anyone who misses Aaron Crow shouldn't. The Nationals got not only a better pitcher in Drew Storen. They got a smarter and better person than Crow. Storen is a good kid, who just wants to play ML baseball and win. He is well grounded and focused.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

So, forgive me if someone has already offered this perspective.

If I was Ted Lerner, I would look at these negotiations with Strasburg as the first of two stages. Whatever you pay Strasburg this year, you know damn well that Boras will want a significant increase next year for Bryce Harper. And, Boras will use the reasons that Boz has offered already - pitchers are a crapshoot, pos players are money in the bank.

So, again, if I was Ted Lerner, I would be looking at these negotiations as a choice between 1) Strasburg and Harper; and 2) Harper and the next best available pitcher next year. (assuming Strasburg does not give consent to picked again)

Obviously, Option 1 would be awesome (especially when MLB goes to a slotting system for draft picks). But, what if signing both of those guys is ridiculously expensive? $80 m? I mean, even if you don't have a concrete budget for players, at some point you're gonna shy away from spending money. I don't think the Lerners are cheap, but if you drop $80 m on 2 college players, I think you would shy away from signing the more expensive players in the next offseason. It would be human nature.

That said, imo, the player you want here is Harper, because pos players are much more likely to become studs. So, the question might be - do you really want to sign Strasburg if that signing will make Harper prohibitively expensive? And, where is the breaking point?

For me, I wouldn't go higher than $15 m or so. Boras can be expected to demand another 50% increase next year...at a minimum. So, with Strasburg at $15m and Harper at $27m, we would have $42m locked up in 2 guys in the minors. Just seems like that would be a foolish investment and it might even create a lot of resentment in a young and developing clubhouse.

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Harper is going to KC or the Pirates ... the Nats won't be there.

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 10:27 PM | Report abuse

Twice in the past hour ESPN keeps saying SS has turned downed the Nats 12.5M offer. Now I hear SI (John Heyman) is saying the same thing. Can we get this confirmed WAPO?

Posted by: TippyCanoe | August 17, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Zimmerman should lead the team in a Code Red on Strasburg if he signs

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Hacman, forget it.

Option 3 is that the Pirates will race past the Nationals for the first pick next year. It won't be close.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

As I nervously sit here for the next two hours....waiting...I'm having trouble focussing my mind. One question I have is this:
Let's say I win the $170 million MegaMillion jackpot tomorrow and choose the lump sum payout. After taxes etc; I'd net, say $60 million. If I decided to just keep $2 million of that and give the rest away...but I spent all of that $2 million on pornography...would God be happy with me or not?

Posted by: Dougie3 | August 17, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Nats will have 1 and 1A next year

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Trust me, I hope you're right, I hope we don't finish last again. And, our recent run is great. My fav comment from this board in the last month was when someone said, "who knew it would be so fun to watch .500 baseball?!"

But, this team is capable of some serious losing streaks.

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Dougie3 depends whom you give it too

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

I love the fact that Chico said he's nervous too...

Chico, I feel like you've really grown into a member of the Nats Journal crew...my favorite writer at the Post, hands down.

I leave you all with a poem composed as I (virtually) pace around on the internet:

Tick tock, tock tick,
If we offer more than $20m I'm gonna be sick!

Posted by: HenryStin | August 17, 2009 10:31 PM | Report abuse

"who knew it would be so fun to watch .500 baseball?!"

I was born and raised in Pittsburgh. Since 1993, my World Series is the first year player draft.

There is some upside to being a Pirate fan. I never have to go through the stress of a long pennnant race. The Pirates let you down hard but quickly. Generally, by the third week of April, we are out of the race. Also, when I'm back in Pittsburgh for a game, I always get to see the bottom of the ninth.

I can't even imagine .500 baseball.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 10:37 PM | Report abuse

"Nats will have 1 and 1A next year

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009"

Given the way they are playing that seems unlikely. They could end up with #2. However, as we see this year, even if the Nats had decided to draft Dustin Ackley instead ... they would still have had to deal with Boras. And you seem him all the way down to #30 ... who hasn't signed.

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 10:38 PM | Report abuse

I hope we sign Strasburg and I hope turns out to be the 1st Hall of Fame pitcher drafted at #1. I know it's a small sample size, but still the odds aren't as great as you would like before plunking down $20m on the felt.

For me, I kinda hope we offer him $15 m and he turns it down. Harper will come a lot cheaper next year.

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009 10:39 PM | Report abuse

Fer Pete's sake, JUST SIGN HIM, ALREADY!

Going to bed, will read all about it tomorrow morning.

Posted by: Juan-John | August 17, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

"For me, I kinda hope we offer him $15 m and he turns it down. Harper will come a lot cheaper next year.

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009"

Harper is a high school junior who is getting his GED. He may end up as a free agent as a result?

Strasburg is a college pitcher. Better bet over the long run.

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

this is the one occasion where living in Hawaii and being a Nats fan is worthwhile. If we sign him, I can booze up at dinner time and celebrate!

If we don't, then I will booze up and cry for my beloved team.

PS I don't think it should be as big a deal, I just will be celebrating or lamenting the fact that our track record at #1 picks is not, how do you say, awesome?

Pass the bourban, & hold the Maalox jd...

Posted by: NattyDelite | August 17, 2009 10:42 PM | Report abuse

According to MLB.com's Jason Beck, the Tigers have signed sixth rounder Daniel Fields to a contract believed to be worth seven figures.

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

All I can say is CATCH-22. No matter what happens he signs or does not sign the Nats are going to hear it from some body. Dont sign and they are cheap, so sign for over 12.5 Million, then they blow the system and give to much to unproven pitcher. This is a lose lose situation that we will not know who the winner is for 5 years.

Posted by: RichC3 | August 17, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

peri,
Harper has to go through the draft. By getting his GED and going to CC, he can enter the draft a year earlier than staying in High School. His only route to MLB is through the draft.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 10:44 PM | Report abuse

Does anyone know if SS is in D.C.?

Posted by: thegraneys | August 17, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse

Harper update from BA

Spotlight Burns

Bryce Harper (Las Vegas HS), the 16-year-old catching phenom, was the marquee attraction at the Aflac game, and while he showed his premium defensive tools, his offensive performance was underwhelming. He grounded out twice and struck out three times, rifling his batting helmet into the dugout after his third whiff.

Over the past several weeks, scouts have been whispering that Harper was off of his game. Those suspicions were validated in San Diego. He could not catch up to a decent fastball and was badly fooled by every curve, flailing and missing badly. Harper’s swing, sound previously, has gone backwards. He is far too long on the back end, he is lunging and diving at pitches, and his timing is drastically inconsistent.

Harper is the subject of more publicity than any high school player in history, some of the hype coming from this publication. Most of it came when Sports Illustrated placed Harper on its cover and proclaimed him “The Chosen One.” Currently, Harper is attempting to finish high school two years early in order to play at CC of Southern Nevada and be draft eligible in 2010.

Judging from his ordeal on Sunday night, no 16-year-old, no matter how gifted or talented, can reasonably be expected to perform at fantastic or unrealistic levels. Harper undoubtedly felt the pressure of outlandish expectations in San Diego. Perhaps everyone—scouts, media, agents, fans, etc.—should back off Harper a shade and permit him to be a teenager and develop at a less accelerated rate.

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

Harper will probably be the last of the big time draft signing bonuses. After that, the new CBA will allow for a hard slotted system. In return, the players will probably get arbitration a year sooner.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 17, 2009 10:46 PM | Report abuse

I think it is interesting to note that apparently quite a few first-rounders have already signed, but the announcements are being held to prevent the announcements from influencing other negotiations... when you consider that most of the outstanding deals are Boras clients... so Boras already has that information.

Perhaps there is a confidentiality agreement that prevents him (Boras) from disclosing that information and using it as leverage against the Nats.

Posted by: wigi | August 17, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

"at some point you're gonna shy away from spending money"

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009 10:25 PM
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The Lerner's reached that point like 3 years ago when the bought the team.

If the offer is 12.5 million like ESPN and SI have reported, we're in trouble.

That is not enough to get it done.

Uncle Teddy must be on oxygen and smelling salts at this point just to keep him upright.

Posted by: Section505203 | August 17, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

Strasburg is in Hades with Boras and his fellow SS Brethren from WWII

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:47 PM | Report abuse

I always assumed pos players were a surer bet than any pitcher. What are the success rates of college pitchers and high school pos players?

Also, there's something that makes me nervous about Strasburg going from overweight slacker to fitness stud in one year. I'm a big Barry Bonds apologist, so it's more than the steroids implication. I guess it makes me nervous about projecting him to the majors.

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

Chico, we're standing by, glad you're there for us. As a journalist, you'll remember this night when you get old . . . you'll remember how many people were relying on you. Get something to eat, and drink a lot of water, go to the bathroom, be ready. Cheers!

Posted by: sbuck | August 17, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse

interesting point hac. Hadn't thought of that. If he doesn't sign and he is in DC I hope he gets heckled in the airport.

Posted by: thegraneys | August 17, 2009 10:50 PM | Report abuse

I think there is a loop-hole in the "draft" where someone younger than 18 who gets his GED becomes a free agent ala the International players (some of whom sign at age 16 or lower).

I believe he has already employed this strategy for one client.

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't buy the Lerners are Cheap argument. I've seen cheap - see Giants in the late 70s and early 80s. They wouldn't even entertain the idea of signing any significant free agent - I mean, NONE. And, we were all just used to it. No way they would sign an Adam Dunn, extend Zimmerman or even talk about investing in international talent.

Then new ownership came in and spent a bunch of money on Bonds, which was awesome. Interestingly, though, after Bonds they didn't spend much at all.

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Who is to say Strasburg will not become a Pudge after the money

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

Scotch, anyone?

Posted by: Kev29 | August 17, 2009 10:57 PM | Report abuse

"Held for Approval" ?? Whaddaya mean, Held for Approval? I want to talk to Brauchli.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 17, 2009 10:59 PM | Report abuse

must be all the Tin Yurls I had in there...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 17, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

I wonder if Chico gets free food ... and an open bar while he is waiting ... :)

Posted by: periculum | August 17, 2009 11:02 PM | Report abuse

Exactly! If you put me on a minor league roster, heaped all kinds of pressure on my 20-something shoulders, and gave me $20 million, good lord!, I hope the worst I would do is over-eat.

"Who is to say Strasburg will not become a Pudge after the money"

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 10:56 PM

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

Under an hour left and still no word.

Posted by: ImWithStupid | August 17, 2009 11:03 PM | Report abuse

OTOH, Pujols just crushed one off Carpenter. LA 1, St. L. 1 after 4

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 17, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse

Gains his weight back loses his velocity and control and ends up being no more than a Austin Kearns Pitchers

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 11:05 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and B'more lost again. What ever happened to their Executor?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 17, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Seriously, if you gave me $20 m when I was 20, put me on a minor league roster and put the hopes and dreams of an entire MLB franchise on my shoulders, there is a better than even chance that my life would end much like the movie Scarface.

Posted by: hacmanindc | August 17, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

I think I might barf.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | August 17, 2009 11:07 PM | Report abuse

Not much chatter at all about Strasburg in MLB Network. I don't think the league is really psyched about all this. Boras f-ing up the program, upping record money, taking a little attention away from pennant races...

Posted by: Kev29 | August 17, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

tate only got alil over 6 mil and he was two sport guy...hmmmm

Posted by: formerlylove1 | August 17, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

If we do not get him I hope Tommy John Surgery comes within the next year for Strasburg and screws him and Boras.

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 11:11 PM | Report abuse

Peter Gammons says they can negotiate past Midnight if they are close

Posted by: gtownhistorian | August 17, 2009 11:20 PM | Report abuse

So much for this post.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 17, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Wow the updates are coming fast and furious now!!!!

Posted by: Cliff12 | August 17, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

where are you getting the 'fast and furious' updates?

Posted by: Naxpo | August 17, 2009 11:42 PM | Report abuse

It was sarcasm. ESPN is running a nice countdown timer they have showed a few times.

Posted by: Cliff12 | August 17, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse

I doubt I'm getting signed.

Posted by: 1stpick | August 17, 2009 11:45 PM | Report abuse

did anyone hear what amount the nat's upped the offer to? apparently about 10 min's ago they increased the offer to SS... I have a feeling this is going to get done here

Posted by: Naxpo | August 17, 2009 11:47 PM | Report abuse

They'll sign him. Just have to wait.

Posted by: Brue | August 17, 2009 11:49 PM | Report abuse

11:54 and no word. I'm going to boo this guy if he ever makes the majors just on principle now.

Posted by: Cliff12 | August 17, 2009 11:54 PM | Report abuse

What is the minimum that has to happen by midnight? Agreement of terms? An actual piece of paper signed? Anybody?

Posted by: McBride33 | August 17, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

A quote I read a few min's ago... sounds positive

Even if there is a deal standing right now, they probably wont announce it until midnight anyways

Posted by: Naxpo | August 17, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

ok.. after 12am, but the nat's have increased the offer once again... they're up to 15-16Million now. So I guess this is the last toss at the golden boy.

Posted by: Naxpo | August 18, 2009 12:05 AM | Report abuse

12:15 now and still no word. So much for a deadline.

Posted by: Cliff12 | August 18, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

Brian at NFA is reporting "on good authority" a four year deal for $15.67 million. So he doesn't get as much money now as he wanted, but the big payday is much closer. Is that how it works?

Posted by: Section222 | August 18, 2009 12:15 AM | Report abuse

LET THE DYNASTY BEGIN...
PITCHING LINEUP:

STRASBURG
LANNAN
ZIMMERMAN
STAMMEN
DETWILER
--------------------
THE LEAGUE WILL SUFFER TO OUR DOMINANCE, IT'S NOW ONLY A MATTER OF TIME... NO TEAM WILL BE ABLE TO CONTEND WITH THE NATS!!! THE BATTERY OF THE MIDDLE OF OUR LINEUP IS AWESOME AND WITH A SPEEDY CENTER FIELDER IN THE MIX WHO SWIPES BASES LIKE RICKY HENDERSON... FOLKS WE HAVE A DYNASTY IN THE MAKING HERE!!!!!! OK, LET'S WRITE OFF THIS SEASON IN FAVOR OF GETTING ANOTHER HIGH DRAFT PICK NEXT YEAR, BUT AT LEAST CONTINUE TO SHOW THE LEAGUE FLASHES OF THE PAIN WE ARE ABOUT TO INFLICT ON EVERYONE NEXT YEAR... REALLY, WE HAVE ALL THE PIECES NOW TO BE A CONTENDER STARTING APRIL NEXT YEAR AND THE DEPTH WE HAVE IS AWESOME... GET RID OF KEARNS AND A FEW OTHERS AND GET J.ZIMMERMAN AND J.FLORES HEALTHY AND REALLY THE ONLY POSITION LEFT TO IMPROVE IS 2B AND MAYBE ANOTHER BIG ARM IN THE PEN... OUR OUTFIELD IS SET WITH DUKES, WILLINGHAM AND MORGAN...

HOLD ON FOLKS, WE'RE CONTENDING NEXT YEAR... I'M WILLING TO BET WE WIN IT ALL AND SWEEP WHOEVER DARES TO MEET US IN THE OCTOBER 2010 SHOW!!!!

Posted by: Naxpo | August 18, 2009 12:42 AM | Report abuse

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