Nats Delayed, Start Time Up in the Air
This in from Alan Goldenbach who is dodging the raindrops at Nationals Park:
UPDATE, 8:09:
P.A. just announced that first pitch will be at 8:25 pm. I think that might be a little optimistic, but it seems the worst is over.
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UPDATE, 7:58:
They're pulling off the tarp at Nationals Park. The fans -- all sitting in seats covered overhead -- cheered wildly.
Looking at the pool of water dumped into shallow right field, I'll feel sorry if any second baseman has to retreat backward on a short pop-up.
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The digital scoreboard in right-center field at Nationals Park reads, "The weather is gradually clearing. We will update you with more information soon."
It's the perfect euphemism for the line that every Nationals' official has said all afternoon and evening at the ballpark -- they say the weather is supposed to be clearing, but I have no idea if they're right.
The word going around is is that first pitch will be around 8:30 or 9 o'clock. A handful of Nationals are playing soft toss in the outfield. . The tarp, though, is still on the field and groundskeepers will have to sweep off a ton of water.
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August 22, 2009; 7:14 PM ET
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Posted by: dand187 | August 22, 2009 7:22 PM | Report abuse
Alan Goldenbach? CJ Holley? Who are these people?
Does anybody from the Post sports department cover baseball anymore?
Posted by: shepdave2003 | August 22, 2009 7:28 PM | Report abuse
must be another culinary camp weekend for harlan. bouillabaisse or baseball, chico?
Posted by: surly_w | August 22, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse
shepdave
The real sports reporters are out at Fed Ex Field for a meaningless NFL pre-season game. Where for art thou, Barry? The Constituency turns its collective lonely eyes to you.
Posted by: leetee1955 | August 22, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse
shepdave et al: The reason Chico is not covering tonight is $$$. The Post has made a decision not to pay overtime to its baseball writer, who in the past had covered the team seven days a week from February through October. No more. The Great Newspaper Decline claims another tradition. They're now working five days a week ... just like at a Wal-Mart.
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse
Announced first pitch at 8 :25
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 22, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse
"Interesting" line-up tonight . . .
AG, Belli, Padilla
Go Nats
Grounds crew is folding/rolling the tarp, marking the chalk lines.
Looks like a game is coming soon.
Go Nats
Posted by: oneleggedNatsFan | August 22, 2009 8:09 PM | Report abuse
@onelegged
It seems that Riggs is playing his "it doesn't matter if THESE guys get hurt" lineup.
Posted by: leetee1955 | August 22, 2009 8:21 PM | Report abuse
jd
is that why there is a plethora of writers covering the snydermen, so at least one (or two) of them is on duty each day? what's so irritating about the post is that the nats should be a two-man beat, like the times, where at least someone who's familiar with the team is working each day. the nats are a second-class team according to the post.
Posted by: surly_w | August 22, 2009 8:31 PM | Report abuse
Someone needs to tell CJ or Alan that the game has started.
Posted by: leetee1955 | August 22, 2009 8:44 PM | Report abuse
i would be in favor of tracee covering all home games chico misses.
Posted by: surly_w | August 22, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse
@Surly: You are absolutely correct. Baseball is a grind, seven months, 190 games (including ST), it's ideal for a split beat. No offense to the rooks covering while filling in for Chico, but baseball is just too nuanced so it's hard to pick up a team's little habits on the fly in a pinch, like this poor kid Goldenbach is being asked to do. Obviously, Post management doesn't care about us, the readers, or they'd fork over the OT for Cheeks. It's not that big a number, maybe 10 to 20K for the season. But they're too cheap to do it. Sound familiar? That's how we got Daniel Cabrera as our opening day starter.
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 8:47 PM | Report abuse
Good start, but AG kills any chance of a comeback...
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 8:50 PM | Report abuse
@jd
I wonder who on blog will take the handle "PostisCheap?" LOL!
Posted by: leetee1955 | August 22, 2009 8:51 PM | Report abuse
Ugh. Lannan has nothing tonight. Hello bullpen...
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse
Any chance of another rainstorm moving in within the next two innings to spare us?
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 8:53 PM | Report abuse
@Leetee: All of us!
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse
Lannan is right. He is not an ace. Too bad.
Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse
See ya, Lannan.
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse
What's wrong with Lannan?
Have I said I hate FLop lately?
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse
It's actually still raining, but not enough.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 22, 2009 8:58 PM | Report abuse
We need Strasburg so bad. He could do better than anyone we have right now.
Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse
Lannan has been pretty bad his last few starts.
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:02 PM | Report abuse
Wierdest play in centerfield I ever saw. The ball got caught on the fence. Cameron should have pulled that ball out!
Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 22, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse
That should not have been a ground-rule double - if the ump got the ball out, why the heck couldn't Cameron? Another sh--ty call by the umps. It should have been an inside-the-park HR. Ronnie should have circled the bases.
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse
And another rally-ending DP. !#$%@~!!!!!
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:10 PM | Report abuse
Lannan has been so off his last few starts...bump in the road or cause for concern?
Posted by: HenryStin | August 22, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse
I'd say cause for concern - he has definitely not been pitching very good at all.
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:16 PM | Report abuse
How about that? Saul Rivera bats and gets his first ML hit!
Cue up the DP - Alberto G is up...
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse
Veteran pitchers are what this team needs so desperately. Too bad there are none out there we can get. It just doesn't work when all your pitchers are rookies or second year players. Every pitcher we've had is a rookie. Stammen, Mock, Martin, Martis, Detwiler, Zimmermann, Lannan, and whoever else...
Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse
I'm betting Lannan's hurt.
Posted by: NatsNut | August 22, 2009 9:28 PM | Report abuse
See ya, Riggleman. You and Lannan have fun keeping each other company in the clubhouse.
BELLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse
Riggs is a genius. Gets run, and that dastardly Belli slams next pitch. Pure genius.
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse
Back in the ballgame! We can catch and overtake them!
Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 22, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse
8 runs for Mil and not a soul left the park. Now it's a GAME.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 22, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse
Belli is my hero
Go Nats
Posted by: oneleggedNatsFan | August 22, 2009 9:38 PM | Report abuse
I wonder what would have happened had Manny gotten ejected a couple times.
Posted by: amorris525 | August 22, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse
The Brewers must need a separate buffet table in their clubhouse just for Prince Fielder and their pitching coach.
Posted by: nunof1 | August 22, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse
Where were these 6 runs when we gave up 5 and lost????
Posted by: rachel216 | August 22, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse
I'm not listening tonight. How'd Riggleman get ejected?
Posted by: NatsNut | August 22, 2009 9:49 PM | Report abuse
Arguing a called 3rd strike on Zim - he thought Zim checked his swing (it was close, but I think he did go around).
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse
This team is a joke! I mean, the Brewers, not the Nats. Perfect place for FLop to pad his individual stats.
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse
and Rivera is on base again - walked on 4 pitches! We need to make them pay for doing that!
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:52 PM | Report abuse
Bless Riggo for going out there and standing up for his player. The call was correct -- Zim didn't check his swing -- but I've got to believe the players appreciate a manager who will fight for them.
Posted by: SilverSpring8 | August 22, 2009 9:53 PM | Report abuse
It's a brand new game - we're one hit away from taking the lead!
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:56 PM | Report abuse
Wow...we were down by 7 and have now come back to tie the game at 8. What a game!
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse
Totally agree, SS8. How many times did Nats have nobody (Manny) watching their back on bad calls. Riggs is proof you can argue with a purpose, not just Manny's lame excuse: "It doesn't do any good." Yes, Manny, it does. It can light a fire under your team. Witness tonight. Manny's still there, we're down 8-2.
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 9:58 PM | Report abuse
Walgreen's ties the game!
Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 22, 2009 10:01 PM | Report abuse
Riggleman getting tossed had NOTHING to do with Belliard's home run. That is just wishful thinking.
Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 22, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse
Gonzo robs FLop. Awrightttt! Get back in the dugout, you jaker.
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 10:18 PM | Report abuse
Add Chuck Merriweather to the list of sh--ty umps. The inning should have been over, but, no, of course not, and now we give up another run. THE UMPIRES SUCK!
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse
Flock FLoop.
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse
What ever happened to "Home field advantage"?
Posted by: NickfromGermantown | August 22, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse
And with Riggleman already gone, Corrales won't come out to argue. The radio crew can't believe that Merriweather blew the call on the appeal.
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 10:45 PM | Report abuse
I am really furious at Merriweather...every close call has gone the Brewers' way tonight, and there have been several of them between plays at first and appeal calls. Going to back to Zim's strikeout, FLop's was even more obvious, but the call went the other way. Jerk.
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 10:49 PM | Report abuse
Umpires are bad, no question, but our pitching--except for Saul--has been god-awful. Even Sunshine sounds depressed...
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse
ugh....hung with this one as long as i could. i guess sosa is replacing kensing as the current arsonist-in-residence. good night, gracie.
Posted by: surly_w | August 22, 2009 11:04 PM | Report abuse
Belliard WAY ahead in fan poll for player of the game. How can you have a POTG when it's only the 8th & we are losing?
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 22, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse
FLop is no longer a FLop.
Posted by: Vze2sr66 | August 22, 2009 11:26 PM | Report abuse
Belliard WAY ahead in fan poll for player of the game. How can you have a POTG when it's only the 8th & we are losing?
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 22, 2009 11:08 PM | Report abuse
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The Brewers picked Chuck Merriweather as their POTG two innings ago...
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse
Hard to hit a grand slam and lose. We did.
Posted by: jdschulz50 | August 22, 2009 11:34 PM | Report abuse
"Belliard WAY ahead in fan poll for player of the game. How can you have a POTG when it's only the 8th & we are losing?" Nats_Lady
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Hey Nats_Lady: That's how bad Belliard is, he can be player of the game and we STILL don't win.
Posted by: twinbrook | August 22, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse
And while I do like to blame the umpires, we can't give up 11 runs and expect to win. Starting pitching tonight (and lately) was lacking.
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse
Oh well. We've got 'em tomorrow!
Way to go, Saul. Good long relief!
Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 22, 2009 11:39 PM | Report abuse
Alfonso Soriano is on another of his typical streaks, though it's not the kind the Cubs were hoping to see from him. After hitting .198 in June with two home runs, Soriano hit .345 in July with five homers, proclaiming, "I'm back," after a big game in Washington after the All-Star break. But entering Friday night's game, Soriano was hitting .162 in August with no home runs, four RBIs and a .183 on-base percentage. Asked by a local reporter if he ever considered sitting Soriano, manager Lou Piniella gave a long pause. "You ask tough questions," he replied.
Makes you wonder if the one that got away was not such a big loss for where the team is at today.
Posted by: Enrico1 | August 23, 2009 12:31 AM | Report abuse
Just got home from the game and saw this which cracked me up:
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The Brewers picked Chuck Merriweather as their POTG two innings ago...
Posted by: BGinVA | August 22, 2009 11:29 PM | Report abuse
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Have to say, it was amazing that no one left after the 2nd inning. Guess them that stayed through the raindrops stayed through the rain of runs. Then we made it a game...than we lost. A long day and night for nothing. Oh, well. As usual the ushers and staff and the Park were outstanding.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse
Guess we are not getting a new post, so I will just blather on...
Went to park at RFK at about 5:30, then decided with the rain and all it would be better to either go home or drive nearer in and pay for parking. On my way out of RFK, I saw an UNBELIEVABLE number of United fans "tailgating" if you can call it that, with tents set up all over the place. Don't know what the attendance was at the soccer game, and of course Beckham being there draws a crowd--but I WISH we could get the NATS some of that spirit.
(BTW, the United beat guy has posted his story, with video clips.)
So I kept to my budget by paying $25 for parking and getting a $5 ticket (instead of free parking and a $20 or $30 ticket).
They gave me two bobbleheads because I got there at 8 o'clock and they weren't close to running out of them...
I distinctly got the impression Miss District of Columbia was lip-syincing the National Anthem but I could be wrong--anyway I wouldn't blame her on such a miserable evening.
It drizzled and misted until the 7th inning so I couldn't text much, hard to type while holding an umbrella and I was afraid of getting my phone wet. Discovered there is free wi-fi at the park if you want to watch MLB At-Bat on your iPod (can't watch the Nats, of course, stupid blackout...)
Prince Fielder is fatter in person than he looks on TV. The ump was really bad, but nine runs OUGHT to be enough to win a ball game.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 1:09 AM | Report abuse
It would really suck if the reason we get no Chico is because of the Post not paying "overtime".
Posted by: kingrob76 | August 23, 2009 1:38 AM | Report abuse
I'm pretty sure the overtime thing was a joke. Chico is very likely on salary.
Posted by: NatsNut | August 23, 2009 5:41 AM | Report abuse
Hey NJers. Just catching up on what I missed. Thanks for the speculation about my absence. It had nothing to do with the Post's stinginess and everything to do with me needing a 24-hr breather after two weeks of insanity. But fear not, today I'll be back at the yard. I'll post once I get there.
Posted by: chicoharlan | August 23, 2009 7:10 AM | Report abuse
Thanks so much, Chico. All due respect to the sub, he's not you. Glad you got a break on a rainy, losing day.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 8:10 AM | Report abuse
Hey Chico -
Great morning reading on McGeary: http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/minors/articles/2009/08/23/minoring_in_baseball/
You leave, we lose. Stop doing that.
Posted by: bgreene4 | August 23, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse
Should I really have to click through three levels on the Post's mobile site to even see a HEADLINE for the Nats gamer?!?
As crappy as our little baseball team is, they did play what the rulebook calls a "championship game" (i.e., one played in the season to determine standings, a real season game). Meanwhile, Washington's mediocre football team played a meaningless exhibition and got the section lead headline. Ridiculous!
Posted by: shepdave2003 | August 23, 2009 8:28 AM | Report abuse
>Riggleman getting tossed had NOTHING to do with Belliard's home run. That is just wishful thinking.
Posted by: poncedeleroy
The time it took to argue certainly can break a pitcher's rhythm. And that was really a thoughtless hanger the guy laid in there too.
Posted by: Brue | August 23, 2009 8:32 AM | Report abuse
>Add Chuck Merriweather to the list of sh--ty umps. The inning should have been over, but, no, of course not, and now we give up another run. THE UMPIRES SUCK!
Posted by: BGinVA
It ain't his fault that we're 43-80. The umps punish bad teams because they screw up and make them stand out there for longer periods of time when nothing's on the line.
Speaking of which, get in there Bryce Bryce baby! Still 5 games up on the comical Royals. Was watching the highlights of the KC game on MLB network (which was half-filled with Minnesota fans), and they were whiffing on pitches a foot outside. Kicking the ball around. I think we should deny them the #1 pick out of spite. That would show some cohesiveness on our part and earn Riggo a new contract. They can always say, 'hey - he helped us get Bryce Harper, and it helped get us over the top'.
Posted by: Brue | August 23, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse
Shepdave, I find that really annoying, too, even though I have the Nationals/MLP bookmarked on my mobile.
Another real annoyance is that when you refresh Nats journal, it takes you back to the top, and you have to scroll and scroll and scroll to get to the bottom of the comments. On a "real" computer, refresh takes you back to where you were.
The new "mobile" Post thingie is useless, you have to click on the the "full website" button to see Nats Journal. And then, yes, click through about three levels... Any Postie/Techie's listening?
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Should I really have to click through three levels on the Post's mobile site to even see a HEADLINE for the Nats gamer?!?
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse
Yeah, and I can well believe the umps were not happy about a rain-delay and then 7 innings in the rain (and it WAS raining, even if it was just a "light" drizzle"). I know after the game starts the decision is up to the umps, but before that it was the Nats management, I assume, that decided not to postpone the game.
Maybe Milwaukee is still in the running for the wild card, but it was a pretty meaningless game for the Nats.
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It ain't his fault that we're 43-80. The umps punish bad teams because they screw up and make them stand out there for longer periods of time when nothing's on the line.
Posted by: Brue | August 23, 2009 8:40 AM | Report abuse
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 8:52 AM | Report abuse
Say, Nats_Lady, you say you got an extra bobblehead... Might you be willing to part with it for money? I had to miss the game/rain to entertain out-of-town guests, else I would have gotten wet with the rest of you.
Posted by: shepdave2003 | August 23, 2009 8:54 AM | Report abuse
Shepdave, you are welcome to it, no charge. I was going to give it to one of my students, it's still in the box. It's pretty nice, too, not cheap looking (although made in China) with a heavy base.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 8:59 AM | Report abuse
Bless you, Nats_Lady! Email me: shepdave@gmail.com.
Posted by: shepdave2003 | August 23, 2009 9:08 AM | Report abuse
t's the perfect euphemism for the line that every Nationals' official has said all afternoon and evening at the ballpark -- they say the weather is supposed to be clearing, but I have no idea if they're right.
Why not? Does the Post not have access to the National Weather Service?
Posted by: markfromark | August 23, 2009 9:19 AM | Report abuse
Nats_Lady
Bless you and and all of the other teachers.
Posted by: leetee1955 | August 23, 2009 10:10 AM | Report abuse
From The Onion (short but sweet and thus no link)
Bat Boy Easily Holds Shane Victorino Back During Argument With Umpire
Bat Boy
August 14, 2009 | | Onion Sports
Bat Boy Easily Holds Shane Victorino Back During Argument With Umpire Twitter
PHILADELPHIA—Eight-year-old, 67-pound Phillies bat boy Joey Potts effortlessly restrained Shane Victorino from a dispute with plate umpire Ed Rapuano after the center fielder's ejection in the seventh inning Sunday night. "He was really light and easy to push down," Potts told reporters of the 28-year-old professional baseball player. "I was just trying to help because I didn't want Mr. Victorino to get in trouble, but then he was just on the ground screaming that I broke his back. He screamed kind of like a girl." Potts apologized to Victorino the following day during an emotional press conference in which both cried.
Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 23, 2009 10:30 AM | Report abuse
Whoops, the ump wasn't "Twitter." I just neglected to trim that bit out. Oy, I'm too old for these late nights at the ballpark.
Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 23, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse
And the ump wasn't "Bat Boy," either.
Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 23, 2009 10:31 AM | Report abuse
1A, you know they made that up, don't you?
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 10:35 AM | Report abuse
Yep. I thought it was very funny.
Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 23, 2009 10:37 AM | Report abuse
'Twas indeed.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 10:39 AM | Report abuse
Does anyone else think that we need to find a way to give Lannan a rest. He looks out of gas and in need of a rest.
Posted by: soundbloke | August 23, 2009 10:42 AM | Report abuse
Maybe he has been pushed a little hard with all this "ace" stuff. Or, as someone (NatsNut?) suggested, maybe he is slightly hurt. Makes you wonder about how hard they are going to push SS when they feel they need wins.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 23, 2009 10:48 AM | Report abuse
I haven't read the comments from yesterday, but I had similar thoughts about Lannan at the ballpark last night. Have also wondered whether Zimmermann's going down might have had any psychological effect on our young pitchers.
Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 23, 2009 10:57 AM | Report abuse
Oh, and new post.
Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 23, 2009 10:58 AM | Report abuse
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