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Strasburg, Nats Agree to Deal (Online Only)

The night carried on long past deadlines for the paper and there was more to write on the record-setting deal between the Nationals and No. 1 draft pick Stephen Strasburg. Here's the Web site version.

By washingtonpost.com Sports Editor  |  August 18, 2009; 2:22 AM ET
 
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"HE AGREES!"

Did this remind anyone of the scene in Return of the Jedi when Leia bargains with Jabba the Hut for Chewie?

I can totally picture Boras holding a thermonuclear detonator demanding 1 million more as Lerner the Hut gets angry and knocks Kasten the translator aside.

Posted by: grandstander | August 18, 2009 3:52 AM | Report abuse

Well, as you all know, we added a 6'3 and a half, 220 lb New Nat yesterday. No, not that one. The question is, can Mike Morse play second base? He had never played a pro game at 2nd before this year, yet Syracuse listed him as a 2B.

Perhaps he played a couple of games at second a month or more back for the Chiefs? Couldn't find them.

He seems way too big, made a multitude of errors at SS in his career (but not as many as Desmond, of which more another time!! Klutz and no-hit Ian), and would seem to have nowhere to play for us, as 1st and 3rd are the infield positions for a big, offensive guy.

But we have those bases covered (Hoss has been picking 'em). Morse has played in the OF. Nope, not with us, way crowded, been there. So just off the bench? I guess that's it, but a shame considering his possible contribution to production.

He won't be 28 until spring training. What shall we do with him? I kinda like him in the lineup somewhere for a tryout. Maybe 1B and add Adam back into the OF mix? Doesn't sound like something we want to do. Ideas? He's no second baseman, and Guz shines at short compared to him (and especially Desmond), so just big utility to go with Willie as small utility? Guess so.

Posted by: nova_g_man | August 18, 2009 5:01 AM | Report abuse

I couldn't have asked for a better wake-up post! I actually dreamt about it last night.

And what a hoot reading all the comments from last night!

Thrilled to see him signed but I was floored at the price. Way under what I thought the final number would be. I'm *REALLY* impressed.

Also, there's no way they don't make Rizzo GM.

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 5:12 AM | Report abuse

Glad he signed but if he was chomping at the bit to get going and is ultra-competitive, why didn't he sign right away like Storen?

12 million, 15 million? You're still rich...get out there fast and compete.

With the success rate of draft picks making the majors, I'd be tempted to never draft a Boras client.

Posted by: derwink | August 18, 2009 5:50 AM | Report abuse

WOW! Good Morning!

Posted by: twinbrook | August 18, 2009 6:10 AM | Report abuse

Pre-signing babble focused on a 3 year deal, with numbers ranging from 10-20M. A 4 year deal? Excellent job.

Posted by: joemktg1 | August 18, 2009 6:20 AM | Report abuse

Nice to wake up to some good news! (Fell asleep well before the deadline here.)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 6:31 AM | Report abuse

Oh, and methinks that some pundits may need to eat some crow.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 6:32 AM | Report abuse

Oh #2, about that interim GM tag...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 6:39 AM | Report abuse

Sad to say but I dreamed about it too, only I dreamed he didn't sign. I'm thrilled that we got him at $15m, that's a great number. Sure hope he pans out.

Posted by: Avar | August 18, 2009 6:46 AM | Report abuse

I woke up, and it's still true, right?

Then I went and read the $5 "June/July" Official Magazine of the Washington Nationals--the $5 rag you get at the park. It was probably put together in late May. Here was the Nats pitching staff at that time (in alphabetical order):

Joe Beimel - traded for prospects
Daniel Cabrera - DFA
Joen Hanrahan - traded
Logan Kensing - DFA
John Lannan
Shairon Martis - at Syracuse
Garrett Mock
Scott Olsen - DL, out for the season
Julian Tavarez - DFA
Kip Wells - DFA, picked up by Cinninnati
Jordan Zimmermann - DL, out for the season

We have 2 of the 12 pitchers we had in May on our August staff. OK, 3 if you count Martis as "available".

So let's drink to the 15.7 million-dollar-man. But don't count the eggs yet.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 18, 2009 7:08 AM | Report abuse

Ultimately, at what he signed for it seems that the kid just wanted to pitch. Perhaps the real difference between Strasburg and Crow is that Strasburg wants to pitch.

I feel that he is worth more than we paid him. By that I don't think that he *deserved* more, but that had there been more than one bidder he would have cleared 20M. I was thinking it was going to be 22-23M.

Bud's happy, the Nats are happy, gotta believe Strasburg is happy. Notice that we have yet to hear from Boras.

I'm kind of with an earlier post that says the Texeira negotiations were half about being Boras' friends pre-Strasburg. For the most part Boras was pretty quiet this time around.

Looks like we have some company, though, for unsigned first round picks in the post-Crow era. Several folks didn't get signed.

Glad we got our man! Go Nats!!!

Posted by: souldrummer | August 18, 2009 7:09 AM | Report abuse

Sorry, forgot Ron Villone, we still have Ron Villone.

So we have 3 of the 12. Big turnover in three months.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 18, 2009 7:16 AM | Report abuse

Next up...Rizzo for GM!

Posted by: derwink | August 18, 2009 7:24 AM | Report abuse

How many first overall picks who were pitchers have one the Cy Young? Chances ara better Strasburg ends up like the former 1st overall pick pitcher who signed the largest contract ever at the time. How did his career turn out? Huh!

And remember the Nats have the Mike Epstein curse to suffer through!

Posted by: omarthetentmaker | August 18, 2009 7:25 AM | Report abuse

"I can totally picture Boras holding a thermonuclear detonator demanding 1 million more as Lerner the Hut gets angry and knocks Kasten the translator aside."

Hahaha! That's priceless!

Posted by: jmurray019 | August 18, 2009 7:37 AM | Report abuse

I hope they are selling Strasburg shirts now! I'm getting one. =)

BIG props to 106.7 the fan, they broke the news before ESPN, they had over 5 hours of Strasburg coverage while ESPN 980 had Orioles baseball.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 18, 2009 7:39 AM | Report abuse

"Oh, and methinks that some pundits may need to eat some crow."
natsfan1a1

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I think that should be "eat some Crow".
Hey Wilbon, I hear it tastes like chicken.

Posted by: twinbrook | August 18, 2009 7:45 AM | Report abuse

I had "Crow" in parens after "crow" but took it out before hitting "submit." :-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 7:47 AM | Report abuse

Bowden nailed it. Maybe he deserves some credit... ;-)

Posted by: jps2114 | August 18, 2009 7:47 AM | Report abuse

That's "thermal detonator". ;)


Posted by: AtomicOvermind | August 18, 2009 7:48 AM | Report abuse

These are the Nats pajamas at Walmart? Very disappointing. Just a logo slapped on some plaid.

http://texassportsshop.mysanantonio.com/Washington-Nationals-Division-Plaid-Woven-Pants-_1291674360_PD.html

Posted by: Nats_Lady | August 18, 2009 8:05 AM | Report abuse

Perfect job by Rizzo. Dealt with Boras the proper way. Knew the rules going in and played his game. Win-win deal for both sides.

Posted by: Tom8 | August 18, 2009 8:07 AM | Report abuse

ESPN reports: "A source told ESPN's Steve Phillips that Strasburg will receive a $7.5 million signing bonus with $2.5 million paid 15 days after approval of the contract, $2.5 million paid in January 2010 and another $2.5 million paid in January 2011.

He is scheduled to receive a $400,000 salary in 2009, but that is prorated to approximately $100,000. He then will get a $2 million salary in 2010, $2.5 million in 2011 and $3 million in 2012."

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Do I understand correctly that in addition to the $15 million for signing, he'll get $7.5 million in salary through 2012?

If so, it sounds like the negotiations with Boras went beyond just the signing price.

Posted by: gilbertbp | August 18, 2009 8:11 AM | Report abuse

USA Today's Bob Nightengale has quite few updates regarding Strasburg via Boras (courtesy of Twitter)

First ... Stephen Strasburg will not pitch again this year until likely the instructional league or Arizona Fall League, agent Scott Boras says.

Second … Strasburg, who got a $15.1 million guaranteed contract won’t make his MLB debut before 2010, Boras says. Press conference likely on Thursday.

Third … They originally were seeking a deal in the low 20s, never $50 million as reported, Boras said on Strasburg negotiations.

Posted by: Brian_ | August 18, 2009 8:12 AM | Report abuse

Two quick things:

1) What did Wilbon say about the Nats/SS? I missed it and can't find whatever article people are talking about...

2) Let's all ask Chico to post the "alternate" Strasburg article on NJ - it'll be fun to read now that he actually signed!

Posted by: HenryStin | August 18, 2009 8:21 AM | Report abuse

After scrolling through last night's comments (a few of them in the TMI category), bonus points for the diversions from sec3, running the gamut from lolcats to T.S. Eliot (which is a logical progression, I suppose). Here's to Rizzo and the Lerners:

http://www.lolcats.com/view/11539

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 8:22 AM | Report abuse

Ironically, the Crow non-signing may have helped make the Strasburg deal. No doubt SS was aware what has happened with Crow and probably saw the folly of that route.
It also showed that Crow was all about the money. Apparently KC has offered $3M with little inclination to go higher. Probably just as well he didn't sign with that attitude. Kudos to Rizzo for the signing without being panicked into a $20M+ deal. He clearly desrves to be the GM with his own assistant.

Posted by: SackMan | August 18, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

heh, heh. screw NatsTown, Welcome to Strikesburg!

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse

So, the four year deal starts when? Does this year count?

Posted by: twinbrook | August 18, 2009 8:27 AM | Report abuse

Henry, from yesterday's comments. I assume that it was pulled from a chat on the Post site:

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Here's what some idiot Cubs fan thinks...

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Bethesda, Md.: Michael, who do you feel will come out looking the worst if Stephen Strasburg isn't signed today: Strasburg, Scott Boras, or the Washington Nationals? And do you believe that Boras and the Nats made an agreement for the Nats to drive up the price of Mark Texerira so the Yankees would match the offer in return for a little latitude in the Strasburg contract negotiations?

Thanks

Michael Wilbon: The Nationals. No question about this. Not the kid, not his dragon agent...The Nationals. What, they didn't knew Scott Boras is the kid's agent? I wrote the day before the draft the Nationals shouldn't take him because they either wouldn't get him signed or because he, like most other overall No. 1 picks who are pitchers, doesn't pan out...But the answer if this kid isn't signed is The Nationals. It would be another case of stunning incompetence...certainly not the first and I'm sure not the last.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 17, 2009 1:53 PM

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 8:30 AM | Report abuse

@gilbertbp
the TOTAL of all that is $15M+. His 7.5M signing bonus is divided into 3 separate payments. His *salary* will be 7.5M+ for this plus 3 more years.

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

twinbrook: see above. the four years are 09, 10, 11 and 12. He only makes roughly $100K for 09, but that's *salary* only.

His 7.5M signing bonus is divided into 3 parts too, 2.5 in a couple weeks, 2.5 in January, 2010 and 2.5 in January 2011.

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 8:34 AM | Report abuse

So, any thoughts on HAPPY signs to be seen at Nats Park tonight?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

NatsNut, thanks. So when is he elligble for free agency? Doesn't he have to pay his dues before he can make the BIG MONEY (like he's only making big money right now)?

Posted by: twinbrook | August 18, 2009 8:41 AM | Report abuse

p.s. shhh...don't wake Chico from his well-earned nap:

http://icanhascheezburger.com/2009/03/01/funny-pictures-be-on-your-agenda/

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 8:42 AM | Report abuse

"Happy signs"??!! I didn't know Nats fans did those?

How about "It's still Belliard's fault!"?

Posted by: twinbrook | August 18, 2009 8:43 AM | Report abuse

USA Today's Bob Nightengale has quite few updates regarding Strasburg via Boras (courtesy of Twitter)

First ... Stephen Strasburg will not pitch again this year until likely the instructional league or Arizona Fall League, agent Scott Boras says.

Posted by: Brian_ | August 18, 2009 8:12 AM |
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While, I'd love to see the crush at the Potomac stadium for a start there in a couple of weeks, it probably doesn't make sense beyond the money and exposure it might generate for the organization at that level. Tony Gwynn has always said the kid has thrown enough innings already in the last year, what with the Olympics and the college season. I don't even know if Gwynn would approve of the Fall season, but it's probably a good idea to get him pitching in some pro level before spring training. The team needs to find out what it has -- what level he might be ready for in the Spring.

Can't wait to get my Strasburg jersey....

Posted by: fischy | August 18, 2009 8:45 AM | Report abuse

heh, heh. screw NatsTown, Welcome to Strikesburg!

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 8:24 AM | Report abuse


i went to bed thinking "Welcome to Natsburg"

Posted by: longterm | August 18, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

Glad he signed but if he was chomping at the bit to get going and is ultra-competitive, why didn't he sign right away like Storen?

12 million, 15 million? You're still rich...get out there fast and compete.

With the success rate of draft picks making the majors, I'd be tempted to never draft a Boras client.

Posted by: derwink | August 18, 2009 5:50 AM | Report abuse

Which is exactly why I would have held out for every last cent, too, just like Strasburg. That, and the risk of having a Zimmerman-like elbow blowout.

Posted by: rbpalmer | August 18, 2009 8:47 AM | Report abuse

I said $16 million would be the magic number and Stan & Riz got it done for a little less...bravo! Hopefully he can get some innings in this season, probably not at Nationals Park though.

Posted by: markfd | August 18, 2009 8:48 AM | Report abuse

BTW: Why is Zimmermann only on the 15-day disabled list? Why wouldn't they put him on the 60-day list? (was checking to see if they had a number for SS yet)

Posted by: twinbrook | August 18, 2009 8:50 AM | Report abuse

anyone else wonder about the grant green pick? an extra 70 days and 1.5mil. not trying to poo poo the move because storen appears to be working fine. just wonder who you would rather have down the road...

Posted by: longterm | August 18, 2009 9:02 AM | Report abuse

i loved this:


Dear Steven Strasburg,

Work quickly, throw strikes.

Thanks,

Posted by: ihatewalks | August 17, 2009 10:36 AM

Posted by: NatsNut | August 18, 2009 9:03 AM | Report abuse

Twinbrook,

In general you don't use the 60-day list unless you need it. They must have some reason, for now, to keep him on the 40 man roster. (60 day DL is off the 40 man)

Posted by: GoNatsTerps | August 18, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

That's a good one, NatsNut.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

"Oh, and methinks that some pundits may need to eat some crow."

I don't know, 1a, they did exactly their job... stir up Nats fans into a frenzy on behalf of their "anonymous source" Scott Boras.

"BTW: Why is Zimmermann only on the 15-day disabled list? Why wouldn't they put him on the 60-day list? (was checking to see if they had a number for SS yet)"

I'm not sure what date retroactively they placed him on the DL, but would expanding in September have something to do with it? It seems like they'd still have to stick him on the DL in September, though.

Posted by: Section506 | August 18, 2009 9:09 AM | Report abuse

Wow Wilbon has a memory problem he wrote the day AFTER the draft that the Nats had made a mistake not the day before!!!!

(I wrote the day before the draft the Nationals shouldn't take him because they either wouldn't get him signed or because he, like most other overall No. 1 picks who are pitchers, doesn't pan out..)

Posted by: CBinDC | August 18, 2009 9:16 AM | Report abuse

"BTW: Why is Zimmermann only on the 15-day disabled list? Why wouldn't they put him on the 60-day list? (was checking to see if they had a number for SS yet)"

Per rules, you cannot move a player to the 60-day DL until you need to make space on the 40-man

Posted by: Brian_ | August 18, 2009 9:20 AM | Report abuse

True that, 506.

Also, new post. (Who woke Chico? Must have been you-know-who.)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 9:21 AM | Report abuse

You-know-who?

Elwood? Voldemort?

Posted by: Scooter_ | August 18, 2009 9:22 AM | Report abuse

His initial are "RB."

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 9:26 AM | Report abuse

"initials" (I suffer from Pirates subject-verb agreement syndrome).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 9:27 AM | Report abuse

So I was right -- Voldemort.

Posted by: Scooter_ | August 18, 2009 9:30 AM | Report abuse

This is pretty much how I said it would work out. Nothing until the last minute, between $15M and $20M which, meant there was just too much money to pass on.

I never had a doubt this would happen. Although, I did think the end number would be closer to the high end of the range I predicted.

There just wasn't anything to be gained by waiting until next year. See Aaron Crow for the example.

Great job by Rizzo getting the number closer to $15M. He should be the full time GM.

Don't expect SS at instructs, they will be cancelled. I don't think he will start at Potomac either. I would start him at AA until June and then bring him up from there. Potomac is too low and Syrcuse's weather is too crappy.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | August 18, 2009 9:31 AM | Report abuse

Yup.

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So I was right -- Voldemort.

Posted by: Scooter_ | August 18, 2009 9:30 AM

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 18, 2009 9:39 AM | Report abuse

BIG props to 106.7 the fan, they broke the news before ESPN, they had over 5 hours of Strasburg coverage while ESPN 980 had Orioles baseball.

Posted by: rachel216 | August 18, 2009 7:39 AM
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All things considered I listened to JFK right up until mid-night and frankly the three stooges that they had on (sounded like one of them was Grant Paulson)had almost zero knowledge about the Nationals. In fact for long periods of time during the show they kept saying if they don't sign SS then this team might have no alternative and have to move because no one really cares if they are here anyway, blah, blah, blah. What? Part of the agreement with the city was no moving for 30 years, don't these idiots know this stuff? The thing that really ticked me off was the callers actually had no clue about anything Nationals and these three talkies just kept feeding them misinformation.I'm tired of these local yocals basically parroting what they see and hear on ESPN, its your team in your town, start acting like it. Hopefully now all of the negativity surrounding this organization will finally go away.

Posted by: TippyCanoe | August 18, 2009 9:45 AM | Report abuse

TippyCanoe wins 1 1nternet!

Posted by: poncedeleroy | August 18, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

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