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Unofficial Best-Game-of-Season Poll Results

On Tuesday night, following the Nationals' stirring 6-4 comeback win over the Marlins, we asked whether it qualified as the team's best win of the season, as no less an authority than Adam Dunn suggested.

The verdict? By scouring the comments to that blog post this morning, and drawing up an unofficial vote tally, the Tuesday night win does indeed qualify as the season's best, by a narrow margin. Here is how the votes (as I interpreted them as of 9:45 a.m.) stack up, with links to the appropriate box scores:

1. Tuesday night's comeback over the Marlins (6 votes).
2. June 17: Lannan beats the Yankees in Yankee Stadium (4).
3. (tie) May 7: 11-9 comeback victory at Dodger Stadium; and June 6: Nats turn five double-plays to help Lannan beat the Mets (2 each).
5. (tie) These seven games: July 25 over Padres, June 18 over Yankees, Monday night over Pirates, July 21 over Mets, July 4 over Braves, May 2 over Cardinals, and May 24 over Orioles (1 each).
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Here is some additional morning reading:

*The Marlins' perspective from the Miami Herald. Money quote from catcher John Baker: "You think the game's over. I think we got the fourth run and I kind of thought that had sealed it for us."

*The notebook focused on Ryan Zimmerman's shoulder injury, which I found to be significant enough to stand as the lead note because 1) the FOF doesn't just take days off for minor, nagging injuries, and 2) that is the same shoulder that sent him to the disabled list last year. (The team, incidentally, says this injury is unrelated to that one.)

*Nick Johnson's return to D.C. in a Marlins uniform got shortchanged by the end of the night, owing to the circumstances of the game, but here is a Thom Loverro column from the Washington Times, questioning whether Washington baseball fans even realized he was gone.

*Apparently, we didn't get the full story of Jordan Zimmermann's rehab start for Class A Potomac on Tuesday night. Turns out, he took a line drive off the rear end and had his outing cut short by about 20 pitches. No doubt we'll have more on this by late Wednesday afternoon.

*It also appears as if Austin Kearns is headed to the DL with that thumb injury -- kudos to MLB.com's Bill Ladson for the scoop -- and Jorge Padilla will be called up to take his spot.

By Dave Sheinin  |  August 5, 2009; 9:33 AM ET
 
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Comments

"As you saying you need a lot of data to recognize that daily meetings, daily defense drills (OUTSIDE AB!) and using hot pitches for more than an inning is there?"

Yes. One can do a lot of different training techniques, but it doesn't necessarily translate into outcomes. Only a significant portion of data will reveal that. When we approach the one month mark, I'm happy to volunteer to break it down some and see what's going on and we can take some tentative soundings.

Posted by: Section506 | August 5, 2009 10:20 AM | Report abuse

I spent the whole way home debating if I enjoyed this win or the July 4 comeback. July 4 might get the edge just for Dunn's 300th, but last night was a LOT of fun.

And from where I spent the game Nick Johnson was well appreciated. His absence in our lineup and defense was obvious. And it was fun to cheer when he struck out, for once.

I will say this just once: I hope they sign him up for next year.

Posted by: ihatewalks | August 5, 2009 10:21 AM | Report abuse

im gonna have to vote for the July 4th game. However, if I was there last night I might have picked that one. Cheering with Charlie and Dave just isnt the same as being there.

Posted by: sect104 | August 5, 2009 10:41 AM | Report abuse

I vote this one for the simple fact that the team is winning now, and winning while you are winning is more exciting than winning while you are losing.

Posted by: dclifer97 | August 5, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

The July 4th win has to be a bigger achievement than last night's win if for no other reason than they somehow managed to win that one even while being managed by Manny Acta.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | August 5, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Last night was a lot of fun. At one point however, the Nats looked like their old selves. The bullpen held up nicely, there was some good, clutch hitting, so overall one of the better games.

Does Martin get another shot or will he be sent back down? It doesn't seem like hes impressed anyone.

Posted by: natsfan111 | August 5, 2009 10:47 AM | Report abuse

Missed the informal poll earlier, but I'd pick the Yankees win by Lannan -- what was such a dominating performance by Lannan in front of his hometown and home team as a teen. Add to that the outrage by the Yankee Yahoos (fans) for losing to the Gnats and it was a great win!

Posted by: mo_dc | August 5, 2009 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"but here is a Thom Loverro column from the Washington Times, questioning whether Washington baseball fans even realized he was gone."

I think the more important question is whether the Marlin fan realizes that Nick has arrived.

Posted by: Kev29 | August 5, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

I'd have picked the Lannan complete game shutout over the Mets from a couple weeks back.

Man, at 9-11 post All Star break, how good is it to have Manny Acta in the Nats' rearview mirror!!

Posted by: dfh21 | August 5, 2009 11:19 AM | Report abuse

I would just like to point out that the win over the Dodgers never happened, as Manny Acta was the manager then, and the Nats were not capable of coming back, but would simply have accepted losing. Please get your facts right.

Posted by: markfromark | August 5, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

Not sure what Loverro's point was. It's August in DC, it's the Marlins, they're 30-something games under .500, and something like half the people on the team weren't there in May. It's Nick Johnson, who, as Loverro pointed out, missed about 3/8ths of the games since they got here. Baseball people appreciate the heck out of Nick, but the casual fans don't, and I wouldn't expect them to. "The Last Expo" might mean something to Expo fans, but there aren't many of them in Montreal, let alone here. OBP just isn't sexy. Great ballplayer, but not exciting.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 5, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse

> Not sure what Loverro's point was.

Loverro never has a point, other than to bash the Nats while killing time before his next meal. Probably he resents them for forcing him to take the fork out of his hand long enough to write about them.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | August 5, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

But that makes me wonder (as opposed to "begs the question"), if Nick re-signs with the Nats this winter, is he still the last Expo, or did that "streak" end when he was traded?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 5, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Hey, maybe they can give him and Frank a night sometime. Maybe the 20th against the Rockies.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 5, 2009 11:32 AM | Report abuse

Apparently he lacks your empathetic humanism, Eclipse.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 5, 2009 11:33 AM | Report abuse

I have to say that after months of screaming to the rafters that we need to trade him, I felt a little sad watching Nick play for someone else.

Posted by: soundbloke | August 5, 2009 11:38 AM | Report abuse

Could this be the end of Kearns in DC?

Posted by: Tom8 | August 5, 2009 11:46 AM | Report abuse

Loved last night's win, loving the improved play and pleased with Riggleman's work (especially handling the pitcher) but be real, people. For the first half of the season, Manny didn't have Nyjer Morgan playing CF or being sexy at the dish as the leadoff man. And he didn't have a closer as effective as McDougal is now. And he didn't have setup men as effective as Burnett and Clippard. Just think how the weekend series against the Marlins would have gone with this bullpen.

Ask yourself this, even given the team's record under Riggleman, do you think management is giving any serious consideration to giving him the job fulltime?

Posted by: baltova1 | August 5, 2009 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Who knows what they will do if this trend continues and Riggelman helps the Nats crawl their way back to bad.

Posted by: Section506 | August 5, 2009 11:54 AM | Report abuse

great post - thanks, Dave.

Posted by: Bill-CH | August 5, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Look at the Orioles. They hired Tremblay as an "interim," decided to keep him and there's been continued debate ever since over whether they should have. Riggleman has much more experience at the big league level than Tremblay but I still doubt they'd keep him, unless they really play well the rest of the way, like .500 ball good.

Posted by: baltova1 | August 5, 2009 11:59 AM | Report abuse

What happened to Chico (the writer, not the pitcher)? It's good to have Sheinin posting, but if there was a note about Chico I missed it.

Posted by: SilverSpring8 | August 5, 2009 12:02 PM | Report abuse

The Nats would have to go on a tear of epic proportions (for them) for Riggs to have a shot as manager for next year. 28/17 from here on gets us to 'only' 99 losses and would merit Jimmy being considered. Could it happen? Not likely with the kids we have as starters.

But we could win more than we lose for the rest of the season, that would be great!

Go Nats!
Fry the Fish!!

Posted by: alm1000 | August 5, 2009 12:06 PM | Report abuse

BTW, if the Nats managed to play .500 ball the rest of the way (28-27), they'd finish 63-99. Basically the same record as last year.

Posted by: baltova1 | August 5, 2009 12:07 PM | Report abuse

"28/17 from here on gets us to 'only' 99 losses and would merit Jimmy being considered. Could it happen? Not likely with the kids we have as starters."

They're 35-72 now, which means 28-27 to finish out the season would avoid 100 losses. That's eminently possible and would probably result in Riggleman getting the permanent gig. Be careful what you wish for, you may just get it.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | August 5, 2009 12:12 PM | Report abuse

Didn't see the post last night - but the one I really enjoyed was the 13-2 Stammen complete game win @ Houston on 7/11. Nick and Dunn went deep, and the Hammer did so twice. 21 hits. Lots of frustration vented that evening. They are 10-12 since that game.

But beating the Fish is always a good thing. So let's do it again tonight!

Posted by: dand187 | August 5, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

If we could get some other ex-Expos (or their farmhands) back (Sizemore, Bay, Lee, Phillips, Vasquez, Cabrera, Downs, Galaraga, Vlad), I think we'd be in good shape next year.

Posted by: goexpos2 | August 5, 2009 12:24 PM | Report abuse

I have no idea what they're considering, but I would hope they're not dismissing any good option out of hand. They don't have to hire the perfect manager, just the best one available to them at the time. I would think this club was intriguing enough for a high-profile guy to consider, IF given the right circumstances, e.g., input into the roster makeup, control over the lineup card and game decisions, maybe coaches, just for starters.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 5, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Could this be the end of Kearns in DC?

Posted by: Tom8 | August 5, 2009 11:46 AM
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We can only hope so. I like the guy as a person and respect his attitude, but jiminy cricket he just can not hit the ball.

Hope is injury isn't too serious, but serious enough that it warrants him being on the DL for the remainder of the season. Padilla, here's hoping you can hit MLB pitching like you've been hittin MiLB pitching. Good luck to you, senor!

Posted by: erocks33 | August 5, 2009 12:27 PM | Report abuse

I like Riggleman. I think he is better than at least 10 of the other managers leading ballclubs in the majors today. I did not dislike Acta, but he needs to evolve his style before he can be successful in the majors. I think Riggleman has better leadership qualities than Acta had.

I would not be upset at all if Riggleman returned as manager. In fact I am for it. But most of all I am for decisive leadership from the top. From owner to president to GM to field manager I want decisive and well defined organizational structure that speaks to a common vision. It's ok to keep the plan or evolve the plan but you do have to have a single plan. Valuing development over free agency is still an important part of the plan.

Put a GM in place. From what I can see of Rizzo, he appears to be well rounded enough to be a GM, but it is possible there are weaknesses there that have not been obvious outside the organization. Whoever they pick should be in place at season end - before the playoffs. That GM should have his staff in place before November. If Riggleman is ther guy great, but if he is not then have that Manager in place before December.

The Nationals have more assets to trade this year than at anytime in their history. But the leadership needs to be in place before meaningful decisions are made.

Posted by: natbiscuits | August 5, 2009 12:28 PM | Report abuse

OK my bad as the kids say.
.500 from here on does not get Riggs consideration next year, ya know. I think they CAN do that, ya know.

So, ya know, then we only need 45/10 to get to .500.

Posted by: alm1000 | August 5, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

Natsbiscuits has it 100% right.

Posted by: alm1000 | August 5, 2009 12:32 PM | Report abuse

Absolutely fantastic news about Kearns, not so good about Znn if it means we have to suffer through more Mock hangers.

On another note, it's sad that last night's comeback win had to be marred by not having Manny's brilliant luminescence pervading the entire dugout and surrounding stadium. This franchise should be ashamed of itself for parting ways with such a once-in-a-generation talent and smile :) I hope he's smiling his wonderful smile at us from wherever he is gracing with his transcendent aura. Your unmatchable immeasurables will be sorely missed by those who don't care one bit about winning!

Posted by: RickFelt | August 5, 2009 12:36 PM | Report abuse

reposting, because I really think this could work, and we're discussing Riggleman:
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"JIMMY! IT's AWN!!"
OK, this year is pretty much shot, but you gotta lay the groundwork early, and commercial taglines have always been fair game.

"Jimmy-it's on!" could be like a Nats fan handshake. And it doesn't have to make sense.

Ask anyone in the Air Force, "Are you a turtle?" if you don't think it could work.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 4, 2009 10:13 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | August 5, 2009 12:42 PM | Report abuse

from Rotoworld:

Nationals purchased the contract of outfielder Jorge Padilla from Triple-A Syracuse.

Padilla will finally make his major league debut Wednesday after spending the first 12 years of his career in the minors. The 29-year-old was hitting .367 at Syracuse with four home runs and 21 RBI. He may not get enough playing time for fantasy consideration, but it's an awfully nice story.

Posted by: dclifer97 | August 5, 2009 12:50 PM | Report abuse

A sea change .... the evil winds out of the east have turned, fair westerlies now fill out the unfurled sails.

Posted by: periculum | August 5, 2009 1:01 PM | Report abuse

"So, ya know, then we only need 45/10 to get to .500.

Posted by: alm1000 | August 5, 2009"

That's a lot to ask. With Storen and a signed Strasburg seasoned and ready ... perhaps.

Still think they should try to trade for McCutheon. My "pipe dream".

Glad to see Padilla, the minor league's top hitter batting average-wise, finally make it to the top! Rizzo gets my vote to get the permanent title.

Posted by: periculum | August 5, 2009 1:04 PM | Report abuse

Let's just stick to seeing if they can get to 30 games under .500. They need to make up seven games which seems like an awful lot ... yet, if last night's game is an indication that the tide has finally turned?

Posted by: periculum | August 5, 2009 1:05 PM | Report abuse

"I will say this just once: I hope they sign him up for next year.

Posted by: ihatewalks | August 5, 2009"

I hope so too.

Posted by: periculum | August 5, 2009 1:06 PM | Report abuse

"Still think they should try to trade for McCutheon. My "pipe dream".
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Or maybe we should draft our own McCutcheon... (and not only pitchers with our top picks). My own pipe dream.

Posted by: dclifer97 | August 5, 2009 1:07 PM | Report abuse

Had a couple of minutes to spare so I thought I'd check to see what kind of impact (if any) moving Guzzie back to the 2-hole has brought. I knew he was unhappy not batting second, but I was quite surprised as to how much it affected him.

Anyway below are his stats for the last 13 games (since moving him back to #2) and the stats for his previous 13 appearances dating back to July 1:

Last 13 games, batting second:
AB .. R ... H .. 2B .. 3B .. HR .. RBI .. BB .. SO .. AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS
55 .. 14 .. 21 .. 4 …. 1 … 2 …. 13 … 2 … 8 ... .382/.404/.600/1.004

Team record in these 13 games: 8-5

Previous 13 games, batting mostly sixth (a couple at #2, #5 and as a PH):
AB .. R ... H .. 2B .. 3B .. HR .. RBI .. BB .. SO .. AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS
48 .. 2 .... 8 ... 1 .…. 0 .… 0 .…. 6 .… 1 ..… 9 ... .167/.180/.188/.368

Team record in these 13 games: 3-10

Team record in the 5 games he didn't play in between 7/8-7/30: 1-4

I don't know what it is about Guzzie batting second, but keep him there as long as you can. 14 runs scored and 13 RBI's in 13 games?!! Who is this guy?!

Posted by: erocks33 | August 5, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

"Or maybe we should draft our own McCutcheon... (and not only pitchers with our top picks). My own pipe dream.

Posted by: dclifer97 | August 5, 2009"

Perhaps Destin Hood? But he was drafted out of High School. Still a long way to go before we know.

Posted by: periculum | August 5, 2009 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Wow, erocks! Some good food for thought there. I also expected to note a difference, guessing somewhere around 50 points... not over 200.

Do you have time to check his careers in those positions? BaseballReference would nicely sort them for you.

Posted by: Section506 | August 5, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Why is this the first time we've heard that Kearns's thumb has been bothering him since his rookie year? Surely Bowden knew about it when he traded for him. Is this part of the reason why, at the time the trade for Kearns and Lopez looked like such a steal for the Nats? More importantly, if Bowden knew about Kearns's thumb, why did he sign him to a deal paying him $5.5 million in 2008, $8 million in 2009, and either $10 million or a $1 million buyout in 2010, knowing full well that a hitter can't swing a bat with an injured thumb?

Posted by: ericp331 | August 5, 2009 1:32 PM | Report abuse

Actually, according to the Nats' official blog, Kearns's thumb problems go back to 2001. But y'all get my point...

Posted by: ericp331 | August 5, 2009 1:35 PM | Report abuse

Erocks, this needs more work. Just using the previous 13 doesn't work. Why was he moved out of #2? Because he was stinkin up the joint for a week or 2 before the move. So you need to look also look at at the last 13 games before he was moved out of #2. and do't use the game where he was in the #2 slot with the others group.

Posted by: alm1000 | August 5, 2009 1:37 PM | Report abuse

Erocks, this needs more work. Just using the previous 13 doesn't work. Why was he moved out of #2? Because he was stinkin up the joint for a week or 2 before the move. So you need to look also look at at the last 13 games before he was moved out of #2. and do't use the game where he was in the #2 slot with the others group.

Posted by: alm1000 | August 5, 2009 1:37 PM
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Guzzie was primarily the leadoff batter before he was moved to the #6 slot. In the 26 previous games before moving down in the lineup (basically the entire month of June). Guz batted in the #2 spot only 4 times (he batted leadoff all the other times, except for a couple of PH at-bats).

BTW, his line in those 26 games? .306/.330/.407 Not exactly "stinkin up the joint."

Posted by: erocks33 | August 5, 2009 1:58 PM | Report abuse

Finally, here are Guzzie's stats based on batting order, to date:

#1 (225 AB): .307/.325/.427/.751
#2 (113 AB): .381/.397/.522/.919
#5 (4 AB): .000/.000/.000/.000
#6 (28 AB): .143/.138/.179/.317
#8: (1 AB): .000/.000/.000/.000
#9 (4 AB): .000/.200/.000/.200

Posted by: erocks33 | August 5, 2009 2:05 PM | Report abuse

One game that did not get mentioned in the previous post: April 20, 2009. Nats 3, Brave 2. After 2 hours and 10 minutes of rain delay, Jordan Zimmermann throws his first career pitch. He goes 1-2-3 through the first, gets his first strikeout in the second, gives up his first HR in the 4th, and exits the game that eventually becomes his first career win when Alex Cintron pinch hits in the 6th. JZimm's final line: 6IP, 3K, 1BB, 6H, 2ER, and a win. Also, it's the same day that Ryan Zimmerman signs his extension. For a brief moment, in one of the most miserable April's in recent memory (the Nats went 5-16, it seems like it rained 25 days in the month), you could see the future and the future was bright!

Then D-Cab came back to pitch a few days later and all the clouds rushed back....

Posted by: cheeseburger53 | August 5, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

> One game that did not get mentioned in the previous post: April 20, 2009. Nats 3, Brave 2.

That's because Acta was managing then. Any wins they managed to get under him don't count.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | August 5, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

> One game that did not get mentioned in the previous post: April 20, 2009. Nats 3, Brave 2.

That's because Acta was managing then. Any wins they managed to get under him don't count.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome
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Are you saying JZimm has not made his major league debut? Has his arbitration clock not started ticking? OK by me!

Posted by: cheeseburger53 | August 5, 2009 2:22 PM | Report abuse

erocks, this data is intriguing and makes some suggestions about where Guzman might like hitting most. Not conclusive by any means, but something very intriguing.

Posted by: Section506 | August 5, 2009 2:37 PM | Report abuse

cheeseburger53: the only problem with that game, if I remember correctly, is that the game could have started on time, but the Nationals delayed it until the rain came and went because they didn't want Zimmermann to start his first game and then get pulled due to a rain delay. Kind of puts an asterik on the win in my book.

That's when I found out that it is up to the home team to decide a game is ready to start and that the umpires aren't in charge of that until after the game starts!

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | August 5, 2009 2:44 PM | Report abuse

My thoughts on Kearns:
What if this is largely a way for him to "leave" with "dignity" instead of a DFA. They tried to shop him before the trading deadline (yeah right) and didn't disclose the thumb injury before. The Nats would have to eat his paycheck anyway. This way they can call up Padilla before Sept 1, and check out a few more players.

Who knows what malady Belliard may have "come down with" if NJ hadn't been traded? Now he's necessary for 1B defensive fill-in (and occasional 2RB 2B hitter!).

I'm with previous poster that Kearns may be a class act, hard worker, boy scout, but he was taking up a slot for a batter that needs to be evaluated this season. Wish you well, but it doesn't have to be in our lineup this year, AK.

Why is this the first time we've heard that Kearns's thumb has been bothering him since his rookie year? Surely Bowden knew about it when he traded for him. Is this part of the reason why, at the time the trade for Kearns and Lopez looked like such a steal for the Nats? More importantly, if Bowden knew about Kearns's thumb, why did he sign him to a deal paying him $5.5 million in 2008, $8 million in 2009, and either $10 million or a $1 million buyout in 2010, knowing full well that a hitter can't swing a bat with an injured thumb?

Posted by: mo_dc | August 5, 2009 2:47 PM | Report abuse

Looks like 1 or 2 outfielders might be promoted from Harrisburg? Seems like Kearns may do a rehabilitation stint in Syracuse or Harrisburg. Then bring him back when the rosters expand.

Posted by: periculum | August 5, 2009 3:10 PM | Report abuse

Has anyone heard how far Bernardina is from making a rehab start or two?

Posted by: soundbloke | August 5, 2009 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Indeed, why shouldn't Rigs be considered for the manager's job in 2010? He seems to have his players believing they can win, which was not the case before.

Three refreshing changes from the Acta Era: (1) JR shoulders responsibility for losses along with his players--it's not "they didn't do this" or "they didn't do that"; (2) Rigs emphasizes obligation owed by players to DC fans to play hard and not to embarrass the Nats' uniform--never heard Manny mention that; (3) players are held accountable--no more reliance on team's supposed youth as all-purpose excuse.

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | August 5, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

CapPeterson, could it not be that you're predisposed to look for differences and exaggerate small rhetorical changes into functional differences? Or that you overestimate the impact that functional differences make? Certainly, we have not yet seen anything out of what this team has already shown this year. It may still be coming, but how can you be so certain it is?

Posted by: Section506 | August 5, 2009 3:25 PM | Report abuse

I didn't say he was stinkin up the joint for 26 games, but for a week or 2 before he was sent lower in the order.
What was his average for the 13 games before, I ask again.

Posted by: alm1000 | August 5, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Section 506,

Of course I'm not "certain" that things have irreversibly changed for the better. Never said that.

But I did point out three aspects that Riggleman has emphasized in his pressers that to my knowledge were never or rarely mentioned by Acta, and I said that, as a fan, I find these new areas of emphasis refreshing. I suspect that the third--accountability--is playing a role in the team's resurgence, but of course I can't prove it.
On this last point, another telling piece of evidence: three or four days into the new regime, I heard Josh Bard in 103.5 sports interview cite the Nats' league-leading number of errors (96 at the time, I think), the second-highest total (80), and the number recored by the Phillies (37). He then said "you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know we've got to do a lot better than that," or words to that effect. Do you think Bard researched these numbers before the radio interview? My guess is that this was one of the points covered by JR in the previous night's post-game meeting. And the numbers (along with the thrust of JR's remarks) stuck in Bard's head. Of course can't prove it, but doubt that this was the approach followed by Manny--too much negativity for him.

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | August 5, 2009 4:02 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, I'd have voted for Lannan's outing at Yankee Stadium. However, I didn't see the Pirates and Marlins nominees due to other commitments over the past several days (dang it). I also loved the Kearns walkoff hit vs. the Padres on July 26.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 5, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Excellent snark, Kev.

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I think the more important question is whether the Marlin fan realizes that Nick has arrived.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 5, 2009 4:13 PM | Report abuse

That's odd, because I recall reading such comments and/or hearing them at postgame pressers. Seems to me that more than once Acta spoke about how great the fans were and about the importance of getting wins in front of them at home in particular.

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(2) Rigs emphasizes obligation owed by players to DC fans to play hard and not to embarrass the Nats' uniform--never heard Manny mention that;

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | August 5, 2009 4:23 PM | Report abuse

I would think that a player would not have to be a rocket scientist to be aware of those stats and that he would not need the skipper to bring them to his attention. But that's just me.

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He then said "you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know we've got to do a lot better than that," or words to that effect. Do you think Bard researched these numbers before the radio interview? My guess is that this was one of the points covered by JR in the previous night's post-game meeting. And the numbers (along with the thrust of JR's remarks) stuck in Bard's head. Of course can't prove it, but doubt that this was the approach followed by Manny--too much negativity for him.

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | August 5, 2009 4:02 PM |

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