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Can Nats Avoid 210-Loss Ignominy?

This morning, Dan Steinberg's DC Sports Bog puts the Nats' loss total into perspective:

As the Nats have settled into the Jim Riggleman era, their total loss pace has also settled in, in a zone much less horrific than we originally expected. For weeks, they've been on pace for somewhere around 103, 104, 105 or 106 losses, none of which are historically ghastly. No big difference between those numbers, you're thinking? Well, not so fast.
See, the Nats finished with 102 losses a year ago. They'll almost certainly reach 100 losses again this year, making them one of five teams to record back-to-back 100-loss seasons in the past quarter-century.

By Alexa Steele  |  September 11, 2009; 10:15 AM ET
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I'd say no to Uggla at 2B. I'd rather have a glove-first 2B and Uggla is anything but.

Congrats to Desmond on a fantastic night. Don't let it get to your head!

Comparing number of errors between Diamond Desmond and Girthy Guzman is unfair. Sure, Desmond makes more erros, but he also gets to a lot more balls than Guzzie. I'd rather take my chances with a SS with better-range (beit Desmond or Espinosa or someone else). Look, Guzzie won't be here after 2010. Why not give Desmond the job now. If he ends up sucking, then 2011 will come down to either Espinosa or a FA.

Finally, if anyone has the ability to re-watch the DP to end the game last night, check out the dispicible way Utley went into second. He made no attempt to get to the bag, came in very high and actually had his arm/elbow up as he was barreling into Desmond. Very dangerous move, IMO. I understand trying to break up the DP (especially a potential game-ending one), but Utley has NO regard whatsoever to other ballplayers. I hope that next time the Nats play them, whoever is starting brushes him back with the first pitch.

Posted by: erocks33 | September 11, 2009 10:18 AM

Posted by: erocks33 | September 11, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Didn't Detroit have back-to-back, 100-loss seasons before winning the pennant?

Posted by: Juan-John | September 11, 2009 10:44 AM | Report abuse

So what? Steinberg can bite me.

Posted by: NatsNut | September 11, 2009 10:49 AM | Report abuse

At this point, the loss total really doesn't matter anymore. We've got to keep our eyes on the big picture. Since the Rizzo era began, a reversal of fortune has taken place. You can't erase the months and years before that, but the climb back to respectability is obvious. The off season moves will be critical to the progress for next season. I really believe we've seen the last of the spinning top no progress of the past. Heres to the future...GO NATS.

Posted by: cokedispatch | September 11, 2009 11:01 AM | Report abuse

Since when do MLB teams complete in multi-year periods? Makes no differnce. Though I wonder how many have done it 3 seasons in a row? My guess is none?

Posted by: dfh21 | September 11, 2009 11:02 AM | Report abuse

Reposting a comment I made on the Sports Bog:

Did some quick research on the Baseball Almanac site and it appears that the worst records the Washington Senators ever compiled in back-to-back seasons was 207 losses in 1903/1904. The Senators (who were still officially the Nationals back then) lost 94 games in 1903 under manager Tom Loftus and 113 games in 1904 under manager Patsy Donovan. The only other time the Senators finished with more than 200 losses over two seasons seems to be the 201 loss 1948/1949 seasons when they lost 97 and 104 games respectively, both under manager Joe Kuhel (pronounced Cool).

Posted by: kevharb | September 11, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Hey Steinblow go on out to Ashburn and write the 10,150 WAPO article about the Redskins since January. Who would a thought the WAPO Redskins coverage was lacking? The dopey duo aka "The Sports Reports".

Posted by: TippyCanoe | September 11, 2009 11:04 AM | Report abuse

Whoops, forgot the expansion Senators. They finished with 201 losses over the 1961/1962 seasons (100 and 101 losses respectively) under manager (and all around classy former first baseman) Mickey Vernon.

Posted by: kevharb | September 11, 2009 11:07 AM | Report abuse


You forget the expansion Mets who lost 120, 111, 109 and 112 games qach season from 1962-1965.

Posted by: leetee1955 | September 11, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

... while I know it's probably true some of our confreres here in this forum have no interest in him, or wish to know anything more about him, I wonder if any of our trustworthy dead-tree scribes have ever tracked down and contacted Manny Acta just to see how things are going with him.

Go Nats!!

Posted by: natscanreduxit | September 11, 2009 11:25 AM | Report abuse


Posted by: leetee1955 | September 11, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

@erocks33: I saw the play, but didn't see Utley raising his arm. He did make a play for Desmond, but he appeared (I believe) to be in arms length of second base, making it legal. He plays hard, no doubt, but I don't see him as dirty.

I'm with ya on saying no to Uggla. Having him on the same side of the infield with Dunn (even given his "improvement" at first)is risky at best and having the equivalent of two Ironside (as in the Raymond Burr Character) typss there could have some "uggla" potential...

Posted by: TimDz | September 11, 2009 11:43 AM | Report abuse

@natscanreduxit: Manny is fine. he spent the bulk of the summer in the DR with the youth academy his foundation sponsors.

Posted by: bottomfeeders10 | September 11, 2009 11:58 AM | Report abuse

"@natscanreduxit: Manny is fine. he spent the bulk of the summer in the DR with the youth academy his foundation sponsors."

Did some or all of that overlap with time that he was theoretically managing the Nats, with a wax dummy of him propped up on the front step of the dugout during games, and afterward moved to the press briefing room with a recording of the same old excuses played every night?

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | September 11, 2009 1:16 PM | Report abuse

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