Flores Labrum Surgery Successful
Nats' catcher Jesus Flores on Wednesday evening underwent surgery on his right labrum, performed by orthopedist James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala. The surgery was, indeed, successful, marking Andrews' 1,743rd consecutive triumphant procedure. Flores, according to the team, will require approximately six months of rehab.
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Chico Harlan
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September 16, 2009; 7:53 PM ET
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Posted by: SorenKierkegaard | September 16, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse
Good Luck, Flo
Posted by: PattyinSJ | September 16, 2009 7:56 PM | Report abuse
Chico,
What did Dr. Andrews ever do to you? This rampant cynicism about surgical procedures performed on the Nats suggests -- and I'm going out on a limb here -- that you had a wicked curve ball in high school and a shot at the majors, and then some surgeon did you wrong after your blew out your pitching shoulder / elbow....
Posted by: wahoo2x | September 16, 2009 8:00 PM | Report abuse
Pat Listach sucks!
Posted by: rachel216 | September 16, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse
No, Nieves is just slow.
Posted by: Vze2sr66 | September 16, 2009 8:22 PM | Report abuse
Already has changed from 3 months to 6 months in less than 1 day.
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Now it looks like Rizzo isn't going to know what he has with Flores until the season starts as he won't be in game shape until end of April. This 3 to 6 months thing will be 6 months before Flores is able to start working out in my opinion unless the tear is so minor.
Posted by: GoingGoingGone | September 16, 2009 1:33 PM |
Posted by: dmacman88 | September 16, 2009 8:28 PM | Report abuse
Looks like they are going to have to make a trade. Not sure Bard is what you want given his injury problems this year? Nieves probably won't be enough?
Posted by: periculum | September 16, 2009 8:36 PM | Report abuse
We can do with Nieves and Bard next year again. It's the pitchers we need to concentrate on. If they or the catchers are calling the wrong pitches, then it's the responsibility of the manager or pitching coach to call from the bench. If, as I suspect, the pitchers just can't execute the pitches they themselves are calling, that's a matter of skill more than selection. It may take a while to get the talent or the skill in our organization.
I can't understand how we went from a .500 team just a few years ago to this situation. That's not just bad luck.
Posted by: poncedeleroy | September 16, 2009 8:41 PM | Report abuse
justin maxwell=moron
Posted by: rachel216 | September 16, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse
We run the bases like Helen Keller on crack.
Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 16, 2009 8:49 PM | Report abuse
We field like her, too.
Posted by: baltova1 | September 16, 2009 8:55 PM | Report abuse
Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me:
Ditto.
How can these guys be so bad running the bases? I know Little League players who are more competent on the bases.
Posted by: bigmook | September 16, 2009 8:57 PM | Report abuse
who's the nats' base running coach? stevie wonder?
Posted by: surly_w | September 16, 2009 9:06 PM | Report abuse
hahahah two innings in a row. these guys are so stupid!!
Posted by: rachel216 | September 16, 2009 9:08 PM | Report abuse
We need more consistent hitting. Top of the lineup is 0 for 15.
Posted by: Vze2sr66 | September 16, 2009 9:09 PM | Report abuse
Desmond should be at the top where Riggleman keeps putting Orr ... or Dukes not Maxwell, Guzman, Orr, and Harris. 1. Desmond. 2. Dukes.
Posted by: periculum | September 16, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse
Another quality start for Livan.
Posted by: periculum | September 16, 2009 9:14 PM | Report abuse
It's an odd-numbered month. Does that mean we aren't allowed to score runs?
Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 16, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse
Clearly Bergmann won't be back.
Posted by: periculum | September 16, 2009 9:25 PM | Report abuse
Bye, bye, Bergy. I'm sure there will be one or two minor league free agent offers next winter.
Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 16, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse
4 runs on 1 hit. The issue is not the catcher's position.
Posted by: poncedeleroy | September 16, 2009 9:26 PM | Report abuse
Bergy's winsome beauty is already planning the move.
Posted by: periculum | September 16, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse
"boom boom" bergmann has just punched his one-way ticket to DFAville.
Posted by: surly_w | September 16, 2009 9:27 PM | Report abuse
G'night, Gracie.
Posted by: leetee1955 | September 16, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse
Fans to Riggo: Stop messin with Livo.
Posted by: JamesWebster | September 16, 2009 9:35 PM | Report abuse
Livo, si, Bergy, no.
Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 16, 2009 9:37 PM | Report abuse
The Phillies first run was a direct result of a back-up catcher. The top of the line types (Pudge, Molina, Mauers) would have faked the throw to second and fired the ball to third you always keep the ball ahead of the lead runner. Just saying, but these are the types of things that need to change or else this organization is doomed to always saying wait till next year!
I'm beginning to think Jack Wilson or Freddy Sanchez might be the answer to the middle infield issue and lets face it they aren't sold on Desmond and because of some crazy loyalty they will put up with Guzman for another year.
Oh no here comes Segovia, tack on a few more runs for the Filthy's. BTW the Phills have beaten the Nats in 24 of thier last 30 meetings. Great, and just think they will get the chnace to do it all over again on 5 Apr 2010.
Posted by: TippyCanoe | September 16, 2009 9:40 PM | Report abuse
Tippy, not sure this game is worth this much review, but I disagree on the first run. Riggleman made it clear he thought they should have done a better job of holding Howard close to first and Guzman should have made a better decision in catching the ball: either get the tag down and then come up throwing to the plate or forget the runner and come in more to get the throw and fire back home.
Thanks to Bergmann, it doesn't matter, anyway.
Posted by: baltova1 | September 16, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse
Make that 1 for 18.
Posted by: Vze2sr66 | September 16, 2009 9:57 PM | Report abuse
50-and-95. I got next Tuesday in the 100-loss pool. Let's go, Nats! 0-and-5, and I got it. You can do it. Just keep playing Goozie, Willie and Bergy.
Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 16, 2009 10:00 PM | Report abuse
STARTING FROM STRATCH: This team looks as bad as it did when Manny was at the helm can one player(NYJER) make that much of a difference? Livo has earned a look for next year imo, i recall suggesting that the Nats take a look at Pedro before spring training and some of you suggested that he was too expensive and a bad clubhouse influence well......... yeah i think the good doctor(Andrews)has got a huge bank account but he's good and everyone in sports swears by the guy like i said in a post this morning Riggleman is done ditto McCatty, and wrong way Listach, Eckstein probably gets another year.
Posted by: dargregmag | September 16, 2009 10:02 PM | Report abuse
"Flores Labrum Surgery Successful"--What does that mean? He didn't bleed to death, I guess.
Actually, we won't know how successful it was for many months.
But here's wishing the best to the one we call "JEE-sus Flowers."
Posted by: jdsp2000 | September 16, 2009 10:07 PM | Report abuse
Best wishes and prayers for Jesus! And believe it or not, there are some nice Phillies fans:
http://www.parentdish.com/2009/09/16/little-girl-throws-ball-back-after-dads-dramatic-catch-at-phill/?icid=webmail|wbml-aol|dl6|link4|http%3A%2F
Posted by: Section109 | September 16, 2009 10:09 PM | Report abuse
there's some history here. Lighten up, Francis.
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"Not picking on Chico, but aren't these surgeries always termed "a success" in their immediate aftermath. I seem to recall that each and every one of Patterson and Hill's surgeries were termed successful. We've had plenty of these updates over the last five years and I can't recall a single one where the surgeon or the GM came back and said "Nope, the surgery failed, this guy will never be the same again and his major league career may very well be over."
Posted by: NTPNate | July 23, 2009 6:46 PM"
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Chico,
What did Dr. Andrews ever do to you? This rampant cynicism about surgical procedures performed on the Nats suggests -- and I'm going out on a limb here -- that you had a wicked curve ball in high school and a shot at the majors, and then some surgeon did you wrong after your blew out your pitching shoulder/elbow....
Posted by: wahoo2x | September 16, 2009 8:00 PM |
Posted by: Sec3mysofa | September 16, 2009 11:40 PM | Report abuse
First run was a total gift, flatfooted brane-ded defence. The runner at third never broke for the plate until Nieves threw the ball. Guzman has to come get that throw and turn it around -- total sucker play.
Posted by: Sec3mysofa | September 16, 2009 11:44 PM | Report abuse
Bergmann didn't just make a mistake, he made 3! It just took Worth a while to realize that there would be another coming. I have heard of mistake hitters, but Bergmann is a mistake pitcher. I am surprised when he actually throws what/where he intends to throw. When he does/did he has/had good stuff. Too inconsistent for MLB.
Posted by: smirkman | September 17, 2009 7:19 AM | Report abuse
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Surely Dr. Andrews must be on Forbes' list of American billionaires by now.