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Lineups From Citi Field

Washington

Harris - 8
Guzman - 6
Zimmerman - 5
Dunn - 3
Willingham - 7
Dukes - 9
Desmond - 4
Bard - 2
Martin - 1

New York

Pagan - 7
Castillo - 4
Wright - 5
Beltran - 8
Murphy - 3
Francoeur - 9
Schneider - 2
Valdez - 6
Pelfrey - 1

By Chico Harlan  |  September 18, 2009; 3:48 PM ET
 
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Comments

Cricks, you around? All this talk of Crow's signing makes me wonder if you're up on your bird law...

Posted by: Section506 | September 18, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Cricks is over on the RI blog stirring up trouble more than likely ... :)

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

WTF is up with Riggleman?? We're playing the freakin' Mets!! Desmond has to be at SS for all 3 games of the series. Put Guzman's ass on the bench where he belongs!!! Come on, offseason. It can't get here quick enough for me!! Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Riggleman!!!!!!

Posted by: OldSkoolDiehard | September 18, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

Given how Guzman has performed (from last thread) in the second half relative to replacement mean. That plus the Nats overall record, and given Ian Desmond's ease in adapting ... playing Desmond at shortstop for the duration only makes sense. Desmond plays at second proving that he is the more adaptable of fielders. Yes, Guzman is a switch hitter but his offensive stats in terms of extra base hits has taken a sharp decline when compared to last year?

Nothing is sure, but it does appear as if Riggleman with his decisions for this month is playing himself out of a permanent position?

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2009 5:35 PM | Report abuse

From last thread; everyone agrees Storen over Crow:
Best deal/decision Rizzo has probably made.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2009 5:36 PM | Report abuse

@Juan-John (because he asked), and anyone else who wants one-mans' opinion on "the state behind the plate" for the Nationals, here you go.

Washington Nationals - Positional snapshot - Catcher

WSH- Flores, Javier: Limited AB's in 2009 due to "freak" injury for 2nd year running; Seemed to "get it" at plate in 2009, but wonder about reliability in long term. Arb-eligible in 2010 -> Re-sign.
WSH- Bard, Josh: Good in a platoon situation, but may be a problem in a pure #2 role. FA-eligible in 2010 ->Tender only if he rates a "B" or "A" rating for 2010.
WSH- Nieves, Wil: Solid in either a platoon or #2 situation defensively, "popgun" hitter. Arb-eligible in 2010 -> Re-sign.
SYR- Molina, Gustavo: Not a factor in the future. FA eligible, let him walk.
SYR- Solano, Jhonathan: AAA catcher at best; R5 eligible in 2010. Re-sign to MiL contract if he clears R5 draft.
SYR- Poppert, John: Spent most of 2009 as bullpen player/coach in SYR. Expect him to retire & continue coaching in 2010.
HAR- Montz, Luke: Decent defense, horrible at plate in 2009. Under 40-man control w/1 option; Expect either a re-sign or trade for 2010. UPDATE - DFA'd by WSH 9/10/09.
HAR- Rooney, Sean: Good numbers at POT/HAR in 2009; Could move up to SYR if not claimed (R5 eligible).
POT- Peacock, Brian: Decent numbers at POT. Drafted in 2004, R5/FA eligible in 2010; possible re-sign if available.
POT- Ivany, Devin: Solid numbers at POT. Drafted in 2004, R5/FA eligible in 2010; possible re-sign if available.
HAG- Norris, Derek: A stud hitter, but maybe not behind the plate defensively; 18 errors & numerous passed balls point to another position in his future.
HAG- Reagan, Travis: Solid defensively, not so good at the plate. Needs to move to HAR in 2010, based on age.
VER- Leon, Sandy: Looks like a system catcher in 2010 for HAG.
VER- Killian, Dan: Solid defense, soft at the plate: A good system catcher to pair with Norris in 2010.
VER- Nolan, Ricky: Fair hitter, got bounced around as a player; Might end up somewhere other than catcher.
GCL- Nieto, Adrian: Steady defense, but soft at the plate. MIght stay in FLA, based on age.
GCL- Martinez, Ricardo: Can hit, but can he field the position? Should move up to VER in 2010.
GCL- Pena, Wilfri: Very good defensively, solid hitter. Might jump to HAG to begin 2010.
GCL- Solis, Chris: Gets on base, decent behind the plate. Needs to move up in 2010.
GCL- Boekhouldt, Gianison: 2009 draft signee - First exposure will be GCL 2010.
DSL- Bocio, Anderson: Possible promotion to GCL for 2010.
DSL- Ramirez, Andruth: Should be #1 for DSL squad in 2010.
DSL- Ariza, Jesus: Not impressive numbers - might be gone in 2010.
DSL- Pena, Bill: Needs work, but worth another look in 2010.

Posted by: BinM | September 18, 2009 5:38 PM | Report abuse

"SYR- Poppert, John: Spent most of 2009 as bullpen player/coach in SYR. Expect him to retire & continue coaching in 2010."

And is in fact one of the coaches on the IL staff.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

I have a question for everyone who wants to see Desmond at SS "for the duration." Who do you want to see at 2B? Pete Orr? Alberto Gonzales? Come on guys. I'm happy to see Desmond in the lineup, and if he learns to play 2B well, then all the better. Who knows which middle infield free agent we can acquire next year.

Posted by: Section222 | September 18, 2009 5:43 PM | Report abuse

Rizzo had nothing to do with that decision. The decision was made by the Lerners, Bowden, Crows agents, and Crow himself. I like Rizzo but let's give credit(?) where credit is due. That decision was more of a group screw up than a creditable decision. Rizzo can only be given credit for not being involved.

Posted by: WashOut | September 18, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

"That decision was more of a group screw up than a creditable decision. Rizzo can only be given credit for not being involved.

Posted by: WashOut | September 18, 2009"

He could have done like Bowden and picked another highschool pitcher like Colton Wilem to replace him. Instead he picked Storen, against the advice of most of the "experts" out in MLB draft land. Rizzo turned out to right. His replacement appears to have more than made up for any loss incurred due to the non-signing of Crow.

Advantage Rizzo.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2009 5:51 PM | Report abuse

"have a question for everyone who wants to see Desmond at SS "for the duration." Who do you want to see at 2B? Pete Orr? Alberto Gonzales?"

Espinosa and Desmond : alternating to see which is better at 2B and shortstop. But I am unlikely to get my wish until next year.

Posted by: periculum | September 18, 2009 5:53 PM | Report abuse

Sec222: You may have hit on something - The team may be looking at options & seeing how the combos play together. Guzman-AGonz is a known quantity; Guzman-Orr & Guzman-Desmond are under evaluation, as should be Desmond-AGonz & Desmond-Orr.

Posted by: BinM | September 18, 2009 5:57 PM | Report abuse

@peric: Espinosa is still a year or two off, unless he has a "breakthrough" year in 2010. The FO is building system depth at the MI positions, but they're all still a ways away on the horizon, imo.

Posted by: BinM | September 18, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Sec. 222 -- Pete Orr deserves to start at 2B for the "duration" as a reward for his fine all-around play since his recall from Syracuse, IMO. NO Gonzalez!! NO Guzman!! I'm sure most of us would rather see Desmond at SS & Orr at 2B for the remaining games. Rizzo should try to trade Guzzy this winter while paying a majority of his contract and sign Orlando Hudson or the best possible free agent to play 2B. Rizzo also could sign or trade for a low-cost SS to pair with Desmond. IMO, this would be the best-case scenario for our middle-infield situation.

Posted by: OldSkoolDiehard | September 18, 2009 6:10 PM | Report abuse

"I'm sure most of us would rather see Desmond at SS & Orr at 2B for the remaining games."
Posted by: OldSkoolDiehard | September 18, 2009 6:10 PM

Umm, Speak for yourself, OSD, but not for the rest of us. Orr has done well since his recall, but has a track record in the majors that, shall we say, underwhelms? He's a good platoon player at 2B, or bench player (2B-3B-RF-PH) with a LH bat & some versatility. He's decent defensively, but lacks range.

Gonzalez is a below-average hitter with no power, but has far better range defensively, and can play both 2B & SS.

In my mind, the opposing SP determines the Nationals starters in the MI and the OF for the rest of the season.

Posted by: BinM | September 18, 2009 7:05 PM | Report abuse

Opposite field HR by RZim - 2-0 Nats, top o'the 1st.

Posted by: BinM | September 18, 2009 7:18 PM | Report abuse

you did it again, BinM. (who's Javier?)

WSH- Flores, Javier...

Posted by: BinM | September 18, 2009 5:38 PM

Jesus, buddy. Think Jesus.

Posted by: NatsNut | September 18, 2009 9:19 PM | Report abuse

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