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Lineups From Nats Park

Florida

Coglhan -- 7
Maybin -- 8
Ramirez -- 6
Cantu -- 3
Baker -- 2
Uggla -- 4
Ross -- 9
Helms -- 5
Johnson -- 1

Washington

Harris -- 8
Guzman -- 6
Zimmerman -- 5
Dunn -- 3
Willingham -- 7
Dukes -- 9
Orr -- 4
Nieves -- 2
Hernandez -- 1

By Chico Harlan  |  September 5, 2009; 5:29 PM ET
 
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FIRST and batting lead-off m-e ME

Posted by: jpt1002 | September 5, 2009 5:52 PM | Report abuse

Harris again at lead off? Is Riggleman trying to lose this job? I know he bats left but the guy is terrible at getting on base. He isn't bad down at 6 or 7. But at lead-off?

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 5:55 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Livan!!!!

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 6:02 PM | Report abuse

3 walks 3 hits ... are we sure Balester didn't show up in Livan's place?

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

why do the nats spot these guys a field goal per game?

Posted by: surly_w | September 5, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Harris must have heard my "mojo". He walked his first time up.

Livan, another soft-tosser for everyone to jump on ... that's what he is looking like so far.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Dukes! Brought your average up over 10 points. Now bring it to the house and make us here on NJ eat 5 different kinds of crow.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 7:53 PM | Report abuse

Dukes, the patient but aggressive hitter these past two games. I'm not sure but I think he may be improving as we watch! Nice walk!

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

burger bill ladson blogging that dukes will play winter ball for the licey tigres to help his pitch recognitiin, maybe smiley can give him some pointers.

Posted by: surly_w | September 5, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Sigh ...

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

And so it begins for The Garate One: Home run to his first batter. Welcome to Nats Town.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 5, 2009 8:54 PM | Report abuse

7 to 1. Not a pretty picture ... wonder when this losing streak will end ... if it does?

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

A comment on the last post, re. the firing of Williams. If I were Bob Boone I'd update my resume. Rizzo may well be cleaning house of Bowden's staff and he's likely the next to go.

Posted by: grforbes | September 5, 2009 9:12 PM | Report abuse

Maxwell is really, really pretty horrible at the plate.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 9:41 PM | Report abuse

Nats pitching has now returned to its mid May form.

No reason to keep "soft-tossing" Ron Vilone. Easily the oldest guy on the team.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Welcome to the light, periculum, welcome to the light. Maxy is AAA, at best. Probably not even that. Nice kid and all that but, as you can see, not ready at all at the plate. Really don't think he warrants a spot on the 40-man any longer.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 5, 2009 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Good grief! 3-11 against the Marlins this season. That sweep of Florida earlier this season looks more and more like a fluke. 50 before 100?

Posted by: leetee1955 | September 5, 2009 10:28 PM | Report abuse

the nats are lucky not to be 0-14 against florida this season, except for that fluky sweep.

Posted by: surly_w | September 5, 2009 10:32 PM | Report abuse

if the marlins make the wild card, do the nats get a postseason share?

Posted by: surly_w | September 5, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Ten more games to 100.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 10:40 PM | Report abuse

This is really pretty depressing ... they were going gangbusters (comparatively) in August? What happened?

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

Boz posted his take on Livan. Resign him even if some of his games are blown wide open.

Boz, just like any of the other pitchers as we saw today, they aren't going to let him go much beyond 100 pitches. If he wants to go deep into innings he is going to have to pitch more efficiently, not walk batters (3 in the first inning) and, yes, as a "soft-tosser" go for early contact on the ground.

Livan knows it too. He knows its all about control and location as you described.

If he can't go deep into games they may not keep him around.

Posted by: periculum | September 5, 2009 10:56 PM | Report abuse

I was shocked to learn during the pregame that Dukes is hitting about .450 for the last 10 games, with 9 walks and 6 rbis. Tonight he added another walk and a triple. I was under the impression, abetted by the beat writer that he was in danger of playing himself off the team.

Also, Willie Harris is not terrible at getting on base. They keep that stat, and he gets on about .350, lowish for a lead off hitter, but not terrible. What he's been terrible at is hitting, but it makes little difference when you're the first guy up. And the only guy who is not one of the power hitters who has a higher obp is Orr, who has been hot since he came up, but is just up, and I believe is not nearly as fast as Harris.

Posted by: markfromark | September 5, 2009 11:21 PM | Report abuse

Nyjer broke his hand, that's what happened in August. And the pitching is still bad.

Maybe tomorrow, I'll be there, first time in a long time. Honoring the UVA baseball team prior to the game, which is nice.

Posted by: utec | September 5, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

Livan's had two good starts and a lousy one. Boswell made the interesting point that the reason he has a .500 record over a long career is that half the time he's good, can throw 120 pitches and not let anybody score. And half the time he's a mess. Half the time a mess would still find a place in our rotation I believe. Plus, I love watching him strike out people with 70 mile an hour glop when he's on. Like a lesson in human physiology to see how such great athletes cannot adjust.

Posted by: markfromark | September 5, 2009 11:56 PM | Report abuse

so if anyone was watching the game on TV tonight and saw the "pups in the park" interview in the middle of the fifth, that was me on the right with my dog moochie (the big bloodhound/mastiff mix).

btw, it's really hard to pay full attention to a baseball game when your dog is with you, but it was actually a lot of fun.

Posted by: sec231 | September 6, 2009 12:25 AM | Report abuse

@sec231: I was at the game, so not watching it on TV, but they kept showing the pups on the scoreboard, and the "fan of the game" was one of the dogs, so it looked like great fun. Would love to bring the Grey Princess, who, although feline, walks on a leash and tolerates children and tourists and fireworks...

BTW, it's really hard to pay full attention to a baseball game when your friend's 7 year-old is with you, also.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | September 6, 2009 12:47 AM | Report abuse

I was at the game, too. Missed the mastiff interview but enjoyed seeing pups on the scoreboard, including the fan of the game (a real cutie). One guy, however, was engaging in some rather risque pantomime with his pooch and another.

I was also accompanied by (neighbor) kids. After the game, we visited the team store and we were looking for an affordable (heh) trinket for them. Then I spied some baseball cards on the bottom shelf. But when I crouched down to examine them - they were O's team cards. No Nats card packs to be seen. I stated (rather loudly I'll admit): "O's cards? Why are they selling O's cards here?" One of the store staffers looked at me like I was crazy (okay, I'll give him that one). Yeah, I know. We're one big MASN family and all that. But, dang...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 6, 2009 8:29 AM | Report abuse

Agree re. what happened in August. The (no) Morgan effect.

I enjoyed the Boz piece.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 6, 2009 8:31 AM | Report abuse

This was also a nice touch by Preston Wilson, uh, Williams:

So for at least another day, the team logo W's painted behind home plate, etched onto the mound and mowed into center field will be the only W's the Nationals and their fans will have seen since a 5-4 win in Chicago on Aug. 27.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 6, 2009 8:33 AM | Report abuse

Won't be watching our boys today as we'll be heading to the Pfitz for John Lannan bobblehead day. Go NATS! Go P-NATS!!

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 6, 2009 8:55 AM | Report abuse

I was fearful the dog thing would be a disaster, but it seemed to go well. (No fireworks, I presume to avoid alarming the canines).

On the other hand, Riggleman played both the trump cards in the manager's hand, arguing with an umpire and making a double switch (plus pinch running a pitcher) and still no soap. Maybe the team's just not very good.

Posted by: markfromark | September 6, 2009 10:15 AM | Report abuse

Ah, good point about the fireworks. I'd not made the canine connection.

I've been thinking along the same lines as to your other point. Have we won any of the games in which Riggs was tossed? I'm thinking not.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 6, 2009 10:36 AM | Report abuse

I thought it was time to fire Manny because that's the ritual, and if you live in a culture where they sacrifice goats to end a drought, then sacrifice the goat even if you don't believe it will bring rain. Plus, with this front office, if they didn't fire him it would pretty much confirm they just didn't care. And maybe Manny will have to develop more visible fire if he's ever going to be a successful manager On the other hand, there have been great managers who rarely said much (Walter Alston), and lousy managers who were screamers (Larry Bowa). Sometimes they change the manager and the team gets hot and wins the pennant. Then, two years later, they fire that manager because the heat wore off. It's like anything else -- it's a mystery.

Posted by: markfromark | September 6, 2009 10:46 AM | Report abuse

As with the bit of baseball wisdom that Slowes often quotes "You never know..."

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 6, 2009 10:50 AM | Report abuse

Ouch!

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So for at least another day, the team logo W's painted behind home plate, etched onto the mound and mowed into center field will be the only W's the Nationals and their fans will have seen since a 5-4 win in Chicago on Aug. 27.

Posted by: JohninMpls | September 6, 2009 10:53 AM | Report abuse

You are right, they didn't pop off any during the Star-Spangled Banner (which was pretty well done). Otherwise, there were no opportunities for fireworks--of the celebratory kind, were there?

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I was fearful the dog thing would be a disaster, but it seemed to go well. (No fireworks, I presume to avoid alarming the canines).

Posted by: Nats_Lady | September 6, 2009 10:54 AM | Report abuse

Charlie and Dave said there were 75 dogs there, a good boost in attendance. Maybe that should be a regular thing.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | September 6, 2009 10:55 AM | Report abuse

Normally they pop off fireworks when the team takes the field, which I've always thought was a rather too cheeky practice. Maybe this dog thing will make them realize that they shouldn't be doing that.

Next, how to eradicate Sweet Caroline from Nationals Park? I thought it had been banned, but now it seems to be back. What's the deal, Stan? You do know it's a Red Sox thing, don't you?

Posted by: nunof1 | September 6, 2009 11:03 AM | Report abuse

Bah Humbug of1.

I rather enjoy both the fireworks and Sweet Caroline. Perhaps you could put yous fingers in your ears. :)

Posted by: natbiscuits | September 6, 2009 11:11 AM | Report abuse

... your

Posted by: natbiscuits | September 6, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

Oh, we're in the musical section now?

OK, theme songs for losers, nominations are open:

1. We love you "Just the Way You Are" NO WE DON'T.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | September 6, 2009 11:21 AM | Report abuse

Guy sitting next to me yesterday was a Cinn. Reds fan (out of towner), wanted to know if now that the Nats were here had all the locals switched over from being Orioles fans.

Luckily there was no one in the row below us to get sprayed with soda spewing out of my nose.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | September 6, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

And this line from the "gamer" was SO on target:

...season-high eighth consecutive loss in front of a largely indifferent crowd of 18,111.

People were (I am not kidding) reading books and knitting during the game. Those that didn't have their dogs to play with had to find something to do, I guess, since there wasn't a baseball game to watch or anything like that on the field.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | September 6, 2009 11:30 AM | Report abuse

And, with that, I am going to blow off this afternoon's rehearsal and go to the so-called "baseball" park.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | September 6, 2009 11:31 AM | Report abuse

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