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The Let's-Avoid-100 Lineup


Harris - 7
Guzman - 6
Dunn - 3
Zimmerman - 5
Dukes - 9
Bard - 2
Maxwell - 8
Gonzalez - 4
Detwiler - 1

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By Chico Harlan  |  September 23, 2009; 3:13 PM ET
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Nice rhetoric/sentiment... but highly unlikely...

These guys will most likely lose 106 or 107 games before this debacle of a season mercifully comes to an end...

Posted by: randy_boyd | September 23, 2009 3:21 PM | Report abuse

Woo hoo! Hold me back...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 23, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

I like it. Stick with it except alternate Maxwell and Willingham in the outfield. The long-suffering home fans deserve to see better baseball and a few wins in this last home stand of fan appreciation month. I know we can beat the Mets.

Go Nats!

Posted by: longhorn64 | September 23, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Who wants to avoid 100 losses? A season of futility is a terrible thing to waste. Let's not be under-under-achievers! Let's go for 110 losses, blow off the Pirates and lock in the #1 draft pick in 2010. Hello, Bryce Harper!

Posted by: VirginiaNatsNut | September 23, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

What does Ian Desmond got to do to crack the lineup? The guy is playing lights out and all he gets is a spot on the pine while Guzman and Gonzalez muck it up up-the-middle.

Posted by: vash462 | September 23, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

I've got 99 guesses about the success of this line-up . . . :)

Now, if Belliard would just sleepwalk into the wrong locker room, I would love to see him start in place of AG. Come on Belli, we need ya! (Not as much as we need/miss T. Plush, but still)

Posted by: oneleggedNatsFan | September 23, 2009 3:45 PM | Report abuse

this is what the squad will continue to look like until the ownership quits treating the team like they play in a small market, once dmitri, austin and dcab are off the books (all great signings btw) the team needs to immediately increase payroll, every penny of that freed up money should go to pitching and a stellar defensive shortstop with some speed would also be a welcome addition either way the payroll should go from about 45(once year ends) to above 70 if they want to earn any respect of the fans and other ballplayers looking for a home in the future

Posted by: bford1kb | September 23, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Let me get this straight, Guzman and Gonzalez basically are the mail-it-in twins, throw in Willie "Upper Cut" Harris and you have the makings of another 12-2 or 15-1 debacle. Interim Jim you and Zorn are headed for the exits. Please Ross give me a reason to watch tonite.

Posted by: TippyCanoe | September 23, 2009 4:28 PM | Report abuse


I think that with Rizzo in control they have indeed been putting pitching first? Why prospects? Because you tend to have them under your control when they develop into young superstars. They have already said they are going to go out and sign some veteran pitching.

That said do you really think guys like Piniero or Lackey ... or even the 33 year old Wolf would sign with the Nationals? And those are the kind of guys they need. Its really not all about the money as the quality free agents like Texiera have shown. They also like to be on winning teams created by winning franchises.

The Nationals do not yet fit into that category and really haven't even in their previous incarnation as the Montreal Expos.

I think we just have to be patient and see if Rizzo will be able to do the sorts of things that AZ and Florida have done to build themselves into contenders.

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

bford, time to go shopping with $25-30M and see what you can get. I am always interested in knowing who on this list will make the Nats into a respectable contender.

Posted by: NeedANatsFix | September 23, 2009 4:34 PM | Report abuse

The point of home-grown pitching prospects is to replace veterans once you no longer control them, not to be thrust into the major-league rotation in lieu of vets.

Signing two FA pitchers not named Livan is a major priority. Our young guys just aren't ready as they've proven this year. And if we don't sign at least two vets for the rotation we'll be staring down the barrel of 100 losses again. Enough is enough. Rizzo and Kasten and the Lerners owe it everyone who's forked over a dime of their money to this franchise to field a Damn Major League Team. The farm system is only one side of the coin - meant to compliment the major league roster, not dominate it.

Posted by: sec307 | September 23, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

8. The magic number to clinch the #1 pick. Any combination of Nats losses and Pirates wins. Although the way Pittsburgh is playing they could easily lose all of the rest of their games.

Posted by: HistoryBoy | September 23, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

"Signing two FA pitchers not named Livan is a major priority. Our young guys just aren't ready as they've proven this year. "


You mean like ex-O's Daniel Cabrera? Or even the left handed Olsen?

If you sign any ex-O it probably should be Bedard. Bedard and Wolf would be a great haul. Lackey and Piniero just as good perhaps better. But would they sign if offered a contract? Would they sign with this team?

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2009 4:43 PM | Report abuse

I fell asleep on my sofa last night when the score was 8-2. I just woke up. Watching all that Dodger hitting wore me out. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: blufre | September 23, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

What in the world does everyone base their opinion that Guzman mails it in or even sucks for that matter?

I'm looking hard for it and I swear I don't see it. He plays hard. He hits. He turns good double plays. His "range is diminished"?? WHATEVER. We have one guy on this team with plus range and even last night, two flew "past the diving Zimmerman."

Did anyone even SEE the mulitple plays he made last night, fercryinoutloud??

Posted by: NatsNut | September 23, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

I agree with bford1kb that we need to spend money on pitching and a stellar defensive middle infielder. In the meantime, the posted line-up gives us the best chance not to embarrass ourselves so badly again. Guzman made some good plays last night and Gonzalez is the best available 2B unless we kidnap Belliard.

Sorry I missed Desmond playing lights out.

Posted by: longhorn64 | September 23, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

At the game last night, i remember seeing Guz make *one* good, unexpected play to his left. and then miss a couple as well. and then a couple he didn't even bother stepping toward, must have been too much trouble. Disappointing not to see Hammer in the lineup, but he did strike out twice last night, and GIDP too, i believe. Sigh. Going tonight too, cant be much worse than last night.

Posted by: DCguy7 | September 23, 2009 5:30 PM | Report abuse

From the "You could do worse" file - Of the ML Shortstops who have played at least half of their Teams' innings at the position (24 of 117 total), Guzman ranks 18th in IP [984.2], 14th(tied) in Total Chances [518], 20th in PO [151], 12th in Asst's [349], 17th(tied) in Errors [18], 10th(tied) in DP [74], 5th in Range Factor [4.57], and 23rd in FPct [.965].
Yes, he's in the bottom-half of the "full-time" Shortstops currently playing ML baseball, but "You could do worse"; just sayin'...

Posted by: BinM | September 23, 2009 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Guess we have to wait for Destin Hood and Eurys Perez?

Posted by: periculum | September 23, 2009 6:31 PM | Report abuse

Following up, something that has hurt this team over the last two years is the instability at 2B, imho. AHernandez, AGonzalez, Harris, Belliard, Orr, Desmond & Cintron have all seen duty on the bag in 2009. If the team could simply settle on one, or even two (in a platoon), it firms up the entire infield, corner-to-corner.

The third baseman becomes more automatic on a 5-4-3DP, because he instinctively knows where his 2B likes the ball on the throw, the SS gets the same benefit on a 6-4-3 or a 4-6-3DP, because the tandem develops a rythym, and the 1B gets a better feel for how much of the right-side he needs to be responsible for defensively. Just my two-cents worth.

Posted by: BinM | September 23, 2009 6:46 PM | Report abuse

Evidently Guz is the new DWB (designated whipping boy). Or maybe it's a retro thing.

Speaking of new, there's a new post.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 23, 2009 6:53 PM | Report abuse

Justify WashPo powers that be! Justify!

Posted by: mjwies11 | September 24, 2009 9:06 AM | Report abuse

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