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The Let's-Avoid-100 Lineup, Take II

Please note, because of a sore right shoulder, shortstop Cristian Guzman is getting the day off. Interim skipper Jim Riggleman indicated that Guzman would need a short rest to deal with the injury, which has been bothering him for the last month. In the ninth inning on Wednesday night, Guzman made two throwing errors.

Los Angeles

Furcal - 6
Ethier - 9
Ramirez - 7
Kemp - 8
Loney - 3
Belliard - 4
DeWitt - 5
Martin - 2
Padilla - 1

Washington

Harris - 8
Desmond - 6
Dunn - 3
Zimmerman - 5
Willingham - 7
Dukes - 9
Gonzalez - 4
Burke - 2
Martin - 1

By Chico Harlan  |  September 24, 2009; 3:27 PM ET
 
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Comments

What's up with the Dunn/Zimm switch the last couple of nights?

Posted by: jgs61 | September 24, 2009 3:36 PM | Report abuse

Willie Harris should also get the day off. Put Maxwell in.

Posted by: FloresFan | September 24, 2009 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Agree with Maxwell/Harris switch. Guzman should rest until February while reading a book on how to play 2d Base so he can compete with Gonzalez come spring training.

Posted by: Bill-CH | September 24, 2009 3:56 PM | Report abuse

I was hoping for another Ethier/Orr situation...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 24, 2009 4:03 PM | Report abuse

I think I would rather Guzman read a book extolling some of the virtues of these Great United States other cities.

Posted by: soundbloke | September 24, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Come on, Justin Maxwell needs to play. Willie Harris is a nice guy but he has proven his worth as a spot starter, defensive replacement. This is the kinda stuff that just turns me off to Riggleman.

Posted by: TippyCanoe | September 24, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

let the fat little little shortstop with the sore shoulder, bad feet, diminishing range, hollow batting average and atrocious OBP sit out the rest of the season and play desmond.

Posted by: surly_w | September 24, 2009 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Interested to see the new catcher. This will be his first action with the Nationals, correct?

Posted by: futbolclif | September 24, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Ugh! I know Willie is fast but he is hitting under .225, give Maxwell a chance to prove he can perform on back to back nights, he earned another start after his hustle last night.

Posted by: markfd | September 24, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

Burke started against the Mets on Sunday and I believe came in the game late on Saturday.

Posted by: brothbart | September 24, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Enough Riggleman. Play the kids!

If he comes back I'm, going to be very disappointing.

Posted by: soundbloke | September 24, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Personally, I'm sick of players sucking for weeks or months and then they finally sit and we learn they had been hurting the whole time. If your production is declining and you are hurt, tell the trainer and get out of the lineup. You're not helping the team. Plus, you're hurting your own stats and therefore future contract negotiations. Who do they think they are helping?? This macho BS is very annoying to me. Maybe the real take on this spin is that Riggo finally told Guzzie, look let's just say one of your many sore spots is a borderline injury and sit you for the rest of the season. Bill Billichek-style.

Posted by: Avar | September 24, 2009 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Burke started against the Mets on the 20th and also went into the game on the 19th, I think.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 24, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

Heh. I should have read on. Brothbart covered it.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 24, 2009 4:51 PM | Report abuse

well, I liked it, anyway, 1a, even if no one else noticed.
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I was hoping for another Ethier/Orr situation...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 24, 2009 4:03 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | September 24, 2009 4:57 PM | Report abuse

To that 4 percent who is voting for "more than 85 wins" next year, I have an important message for you...

Please, people, get a grip. There's reality, irrational exuberance and, then way out there, the folks who think the 2010 Nats will win more than 85 games. Two seasons, maybe.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | September 24, 2009 1:36 PM

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Lighten up Frances. It's September.

Posted by: NatsNut | September 24, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Hey Sec3 - I chuckled too...it did not go unnoticed, just unrecognized.

Well played 1a!

Posted by: combedge | September 24, 2009 5:29 PM | Report abuse

brothbart, 1a1: Yes, this will be Burke's 2nd start & 3rd appearance for the Nationals. Let's see how he handles Martin tonight, since Nieves had become both Martin & Lannan's "personal" catcher.

Posted by: BinM | September 24, 2009 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Riggleman,

Everyone already knows a bit about Guzman, Orr, Gonzalez, and Harris.

No one knows much about Desmond especially at shortstop, Padilla, plus Maxwell or Morse in their current reincarnation. All of these guys can hit. All (even Maxwell) hit far and way better than Orr in Syracuse? Orr was basically behind Casto from that perspective?

If you want to showcase your favorite veterans do it somewhere else please.

Posted by: periculum | September 24, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, sec3 and combedge. ;-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 24, 2009 6:05 PM | Report abuse

peric: Yes, Riggleman knows that Guzman, Orr, AGonz & Harris are all MLB-level players; They have proven that, albeit to varying degrees of success over a period of time.

Desmond is playing SS tonight, so we'll have another look at him there. Maxwell has enough of a track record to have earned a ST invite, and a chance to compete for an OF spot in 2010. Morse & Padilla might get more opportunities if the Nationals weren't opposing playoff-caliber teams, and Riggleman didn't want to continue his career in MLB.

Posting a lineup constructed of guys who were in SYR on 9/1 doesn't earn the respect of FO personnel whose teams are still in contention.

Posted by: BinM | September 24, 2009 6:07 PM | Report abuse

@Tippy

One of Riggleman's shortcomings is that he is wedded to pleyer's "profiles" as opposed to what he sees with his own eyes. Harris "profiles" as a leadoff hitter while Maxwell "profiles" as a lower-in-the-order guy. Those 30-something journeymen and their "profiles" have been the beginning of the end for many a manager.

Posted by: leetee1955 | September 24, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm sorry, but I just don't agree with those people who want to turn the Nats into a AAA team for the last part of the season. I go to all the games and I want to see good baseball and some wins. It's not fun to sit in the midst of the obnoxious fans from other teams when the team is playing badly. You could see that last night's win with mostly veteran players was important to the fans and the players alike. Evaluate the prospects in spring training. This is supposed to be major league baseball. Yes, I know sometimes it doesn't look like it.

Go Ronnie!

Posted by: longhorn64 | September 24, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

longhorn

if not now, when?

Posted by: surly_w | September 24, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

@BinM

"Posting a lineup constructed of guys who were in SYR on 9/1 doesn't earn the respect of FO personnel whose teams are still in contention.

Posted by: BinM | September 24, 2009"

Padilla has been with the team for a while now. And he is rusty although he worked a walk last night. Morse just hits. Both of these guys can hit if given the chance. Their flaw / weakness may only be their fielding. But like Desmond, shouldn't Riggleman try to find out now? Instead of waiting for Spring training.

Given what we've seen since Morgan went down they probably aren't going to do any worst.

Posted by: periculum | September 24, 2009 6:25 PM | Report abuse

@longhorn: There is truth in your words, and in the thoughts behind them.

The primary purposes behind expanded rosters is to 1) log service time for players controlled by the team, but outside the 25-man roster (per the CBA, I believe), and 2) allow the players "called-up" a chance to play & sometimes prove they deserve to be MLB players.

Posted by: BinM | September 24, 2009 6:28 PM | Report abuse

@peric: Padilla is 30 y.o., originally signed by PHI in 1998 - He bounced around on busses in the minors for 11 years before having a "breakout" year (in BAvg) with SYR in 2009. The Nationals called him up for the proverbial "cup of coffee" in September - be happy for him, but try not to read anything else into it.

Morse is a 27-y.o. bat without a position; He could possibly fill a 1B/DH/LF/PH slot somewhere, but NL teams don't use a DH, and 1B/LF are fairly well staffed with the Nationals currently. I'd like him at SYR next year as an insurance policy.

Posted by: BinM | September 24, 2009 6:43 PM | Report abuse

@longhorn non-roster 'invitees' who performed last night:

Detwiler, Orr, Desmond, Padilla, Morse.

One could make a case that Bergmann, Clippard, and Burnett might fall into that category; perhaps even MacDougal? They weren't really there at the team's opening game. Perhaps even Gonzalez?

Tonight: JD Martin, Burke, Ian Desmond ...


Posted by: periculum | September 24, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

@BinM,

"The Nationals called him up for the proverbial "cup of coffee" in September - be happy for him, but try not to read anything else into it."

Padilla was called up on August 5. JD Martin in July. He was supposedly up for the "proverbial cup of coffee".

Padilla's strength is getting on base. Just like Morgan. He could be hitting in Harris spot and might actually be more effective? Its hard to tell because he was never given the chance by Riggleman.

Posted by: periculum | September 24, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

longhorn, I found out last season that, even with chance-of-a-lifetime (TM) draft picks in the mix, I just don't have it in me to root for my guys to lose. I also loved seeing the players' joyous celebration last night.

And there's a new post, dings and dents edition.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | September 24, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

@BinM,

Do you know who Jesse English is? He is a left handed pitcher that now appears on the 40-man roster on the Nats official site?

Posted by: periculum | September 24, 2009 6:54 PM | Report abuse

New post up.

Posted by: BinM | September 24, 2009 6:56 PM | Report abuse

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