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Lineups From Turner Field

Washington

Maxwell - 8
Dukes - 9
Dunn - 3
Zimmerman - 5
Willingham - 7
Desmond - 6
Gonzalez - 4
Nieves - 2
Hernandez - 1

Atlanta

McLouth - 8
Prado - 4
Jones - 5
LaRoche - 3
Anderson - 7
Escobar - 6
Diaz - 9
Ross - 2
Lowe - 1

By Chico Harlan  |  October 2, 2009; 3:30 PM ET
 
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More AB's for Dunn to try to get him to 40?

I'm down.

Posted by: sec307 | October 2, 2009 4:07 PM | Report abuse

More AB's for Dunn to try to get him to 40?

I'm down.

Posted by: sec307 | October 2, 2009 4:07 PM


Me too. No doubt!

Posted by: FloresFan | October 2, 2009 4:08 PM | Report abuse

I'm down (I'm really down). I'm down (down on the ground).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 2, 2009 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Not just another at-bat or two, but with the way they've each been hitting lately, having Zimmerman in the on-deck circle is a lot more likely to get Dunn better pitches to hit than having Willingham coming up next.

Posted by: greggwiggins | October 2, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

40 is looking pretty unlikely right about now, aint it.

Posted by: DCguy7 | October 2, 2009 4:39 PM | Report abuse

Get er Dunn!

Posted by: futbolclif | October 2, 2009 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Good point, gregg. I'm getting excited for what will (hopefully) be a big off-season for the FO.

Posted by: sec307 | October 2, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

that lineup below willingham doesn't look promising. why does the inter-riggs manager play gonzalez and nieves against a tough veteran righthander like lowe instead of lefty bats orr and bard? this winning streak must have him in a heady state.

Posted by: surly_w | October 2, 2009 4:47 PM | Report abuse

I haven't given up hope on 40. He's got three more games to put two good swings on the ball. He just missed one in the home finale and who knows who the Braves will run out there now that their season is over too.

Either way, I've been pleasantly surprized by Mr. Dunn this season and I hope they extend him this winter.

Posted by: sec307 | October 2, 2009 4:48 PM | Report abuse

We don't seem to be using Burke much at catcher. Was he released or something?

Posted by: poncedeleroy | October 2, 2009 4:54 PM | Report abuse

ew. Did someone already comment on the new book about the desecration of Teddy Ballgame's body reported in the NY Daily News today?

Don't read it if you're not comfortable with being disturbed. I went in with the craning at a fender-bender intention and got a graphic crime scene instead, so really be sure you want to know.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2009/10/02/2009-10-02_book_reveals_chilling_details_of_how_cryonic_lab_thumped_remains_of_baseball_imm.html

The fender bender version is that the company responsible for freezing these people did not uphold its end of the contract, in fact, its employees were outright criminal in their behavior.

Posted by: Section506 | October 2, 2009 4:55 PM | Report abuse

I have to say I was wrong about Dunn's fielding at first. He hasn't been bad!

Posted by: poncedeleroy | October 2, 2009 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Maxwell leading off -- cool!

Posted by: jgs61 | October 2, 2009 5:01 PM | Report abuse

ponce: Burke was an emergency signing when Nieves went down. He's still with the team (for a couple more days).
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1a1: "How can you laugh (when you know I'm down)?"

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

Re the Ted Williams story, I'll never buy another can of tuna again in my life.

Posted by: nunof1 | October 2, 2009 5:27 PM | Report abuse

A couple of questions for the group - What would the chances be of Rizzo moving Guzman in the off-season to an A.L. team for two "prospects", say one AA & one low-A; How much salary would the Nationals have to eat, and would it be worth it? Or would you hold onto Guzman & go into ST-2010 with Guzman, Desmond, AGonz, Orr & possibly another MI and let them settle it on the field?

I'm having a hard time with this - I know what Guzman can do, Desmond still seems a bit skittish defensively, AGonz is solid @2B, but has a popgun bat, and Orr would be O.K. in a platoon role, imo. What say you?

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 5:44 PM | Report abuse

BinM -

Start the year with Guzman and let Desmond play everyday at AAA. Then trade Guzman midseason and Desmond is ready to step right in. If Desmond can't get the job done, Espinosa is on the rise too.

I don't really like AGonz or Orr as starters, I hope they sign a 2B in the offseason who can fill that hole.

Posted by: SpashCity | October 2, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Splash: Thanks for the input. That's kind of the way I was leaning early in September; Now, I'm not so sure. I still like AGonz as a MI bench player, however it turns out.

Keep those cards & letters coming.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

i can't say you didn't warn me, 506.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 2, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

Well, he didn't warn me (that I can recall), and I'm very, very cross.

You hear me, 506? CROSS!

Posted by: Scooter_ | October 2, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

Dunn definitely needs to get off his 0-fer train tonight; Even a double to the gap might give him a boost. I appreciate Riggleman giving him every chance to get to 40 as well.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 7:12 PM | Report abuse

I wouldn't be so quick to move Guzman Bin M and if i were Rizzo the way Nyjer and Guzman provided an effective one-two punch i'd be reluctant to move him just yet don't get me wrong i like Desmond his attitude and the way he swings the bat,and why is evryone so intent on moving Guzman? Like i said the two(Morgan and Guzz)provided a serious 1-2 punch at the top of the lineup, can Desmond or Maxwell or Dukes provide the the type of bat control that is needed behind Nyjer? The 2010 spring training season will be interesting to say the least.

Posted by: dargregmag | October 2, 2009 7:24 PM | Report abuse

dargramps: Interesting thoughts. My personal fear is that Guzman is becoming just a hacker in the lineup, who is offering less every year defensively at SS. If he sticks with the team through the off-season & warms up to playing 2B in ST-2010, great - I just don't see that happening.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 7:35 PM | Report abuse

YES, Dunn!

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 7:40 PM | Report abuse

At least the 0-fer is no more on Dunn; maybe he can get something positive going now.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 7:43 PM | Report abuse

You hang 'em, we bang 'em.

Posted by: Section220 | October 2, 2009 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Gonzo and Willingham do not historically hit well against this guy. But I think Guzman does? Morse also does? Riggleman's lineups continue to confuse and obfuscate?

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Desmond's shot pretty much cemented a solid shot at the starting lineup next spring I'd guess?

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 8:08 PM | Report abuse

Avg. pitch speed for Livan is 78-85mph a few dips down to the high sixties for curves. Seems like he is the soft tosser of this bunch NOT JD Martin?

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 8:11 PM | Report abuse

2 doubles for Dunn? A homer and a triple for Desmond? Let's call 'em the Killer Ds!

Posted by: poncedeleroy | October 2, 2009 8:26 PM | Report abuse

peric (sigh) per your 8:07 post: Guzman's shoulder injury prevents him from playing the field - he's PH only for the rest of the season; Willingham has far better power numbers than Morse. No obsfucation from Riggleman in my mind.
Re: your 8:08 post - No, but he has finally earned a solid shot at a job in ST-2010.
Re: Your 8:11 post - Another one of your non-sequitors; Serves no purpose except to boost your BFF, J.D. Martin.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 8:32 PM | Report abuse

Gonzo and Willingham do not historically hit well against this guy. But I think Guzman does? Morse also does? Riggleman's lineups continue to confuse and obfuscate?

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 8:35 PM | Report abuse

Sorry for the repost ... having some issues with my browser.

@BinM,

Willingham is hitting .160 against Lowe. Morse is hitting .330 with a homer. Forgot about Guzman. But he does seem to hit against this guy.

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 8:37 PM | Report abuse

ponce: I might suggest a different slant, but it would be Very Politically Incorrect here, as well as sexist.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 8:39 PM | Report abuse

peric: Very small sample size for Morse - He's good off the bench tonight. Willingham has 3HR & 6RBI's off Lowe over the last 5 years.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 8:45 PM | Report abuse

@BinM,

You seem to be pretty busy pushing Guzman out the door? He definitely is not your BFF and that seems a tad 'non-sequitor'? No?

Guzman may just stay ... as insurance. Why not? Its not the payroll is as high as the Redskins? No need to 'platoon' as he is a switch hitter. And with his salary everyone thinks he would be difficult to move.

As far as Orr. I just don't see it. He starts strong and rapidly tapers off? Kind of like Willingham seems to have? He seemed to have real problems at third whereas Belliard was able to manage that? Like Desmond his fielding seems skittish as does his hitting.

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 8:46 PM | Report abuse

Wonder if "soft tosser" Livan Hernandez might hurl a complete game for his closing argument?

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 9:24 PM | Report abuse

peric: Not pushing him out the door, as you suggest, just posing a question to the Natosphere; And yes, is was an off-topic, or non-sequitor question. Guzman may stay & play SS, stay & play 2B, or he may go elsewhere - Read carefully, and please chew & swallow before you talk.

Regarding the rest of your open-ended questions - not worth a response at this point. Here's an idea - stick to posting on RI, and suffer the really brutal responses you catch there.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 9:29 PM | Report abuse

peric: Not pushing him out the door, as you suggest, just posing a question to the Natosphere; And yes, is was an off-topic, or non-sequitor question. Guzman may stay & play SS, stay & play 2B, or he may go elsewhere - Read carefully, and please chew & swallow before you talk.

Regarding the rest of your open-ended questions - not worth a response at this point. Here's an idea - stick to posting on RI, and suffer the really brutal responses you catch there.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Desmond's shot pretty much cemented a solid shot at the starting lineup next spring I'd guess?

Posted by: periculum

There's no doubt in my mind. The way he gets the bat head out on the inside pitches shows that he has the reflexes to hit. He can hit the ball out of the park, and play the infield at the same time.
You can teach him how to field, that's a lot smaller problem than teaching him how to hit. He's got great range, but he has to learn how to relax with his throws. He just rushed a throw on a 4-6-3 covering second base. Eventually he'll get the hang of it. I think that putting him at 2B is an advantage because he would have more time to gather himself to make his typical throw. Once he gets that down, then you can move him to SS.

Posted by: Brue | October 2, 2009 9:42 PM | Report abuse

peric: Not pushing him out the door, as you suggest, just posing a question to the Natosphere; And yes, is was an off-topic, or non-sequitor question. Guzman may stay & play SS, stay & play 2B, or he may go elsewhere - Read carefully, and please chew & swallow before you talk.

Regarding the rest of your open-ended questions - not worth a response at this point. Here's an idea - stick to posting on RI, and suffer the really brutal responses you catch there.

Enough for tonight - I'm out.

Posted by: BinM | October 2, 2009 9:55 PM | Report abuse

Is Bergy showing enough to earn him a shot in the bullpen next year?

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | October 2, 2009 10:16 PM | Report abuse

sunshine bobby,

yes

Posted by: NatsNut | October 2, 2009 10:33 PM | Report abuse

Five in a row! This season is ending too soon. Way to go, guys. Way to go, Riggs.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | October 2, 2009 10:41 PM | Report abuse

If he can play the infield and hit the ball out of the park at the same time he's really big news.

Who are these guys? Where have they been? How am I going to get through the winter without them?

Posted by: markfromark | October 2, 2009 10:48 PM | Report abuse

@BinM,

"stick to posting on RI, and suffer the really "brutal responses you catch there."

Because I have the intuition I have and have played and watched these sports as long as I have ... well there are lots of RI types eating lots and lots of nasty tasting Crow .. ~big smiles~

My intuition says that the Nats are going to be big time sooner than many think. Keep watching ... keep watching ... and you will see ... :)

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

Atta team! Way to keep those tomahawk chops to a minimum. BTW, when is the tomahawk giveaway again? I think it was advertised for Sunday. Bob was right. Fleece blankets are WAY better. :-)

markfrommark, it's called MLB Network.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 2, 2009 10:53 PM | Report abuse

And five in a row and a Ross Detwiler out to prove he belongs ... seems like a good position to be in even if it is the end of this season.

Well at least it ain't 2012. :)

Posted by: periculum | October 2, 2009 10:55 PM | Report abuse

Earlier in this thread someone suggested that we trade Guzman next year. I'm fairly sure that if we could have traded Guzman we would have.

Posted by: soundbloke | October 2, 2009 11:06 PM | Report abuse

Forced to watch the Braves TV cast of game, ugh. Anyway, the announces (Boog & Joe) said that when the Adam Dunn story is told, no better person than Will Ferrell should play the part, now thats something I can agree with.

Posted by: cokedispatch | October 2, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

As Warner Wolf used to say, "Let's go to the New Post..."

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 2, 2009 11:35 PM | Report abuse

BinM -- AGonz is solid @2B

Have you ever watched a Nats game? AG is totally clueless in the field and hopeless AB. For starters in the miracle win Wednesday (I was there in my season's sets in 116) AG didn't back up on Zimm's overthrow and then picked up the throw rattling around and weakly, inaccurately and lamely threw it into LF so the runner was safe. Then he double covered 2B on the hit and run, costing a hit and an axtra base advance by the runner. If there's one pretend player who must be gone in 2010 it is AG. If StanK and Rizzo keep him it will be proof beyond a reasoanble doubt that the Nats motto remains "save money, forget wins." And Wed was one of AG's better games.

Posted by: grclarkdc1 | October 2, 2009 11:58 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like either Riggleman or Guzman won't be back.
from Ladson:
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Interim manager Jim Riggleman said he wouldn't mind going into Spring Training with Desmond as his starting shortstop next year.

"I think anybody would want him as the starting shortstop," Riggleman said. "I think anybody who has seen him play will say, 'You know what? That's the kind of guy you build on.' He is going to have a long big league career. Whether it continues in April, it will depend on what [general manager Mike Rizzo] does this winter. I would be very satisfied with him out there."

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 3, 2009 12:37 PM | Report abuse

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