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Strasburg impressive in third AFL start

Yesterday, Nationals prospect Stephen Strasburg held Surprise to one hit for 4 1/3 innings to pick up his second win in the Arizona Fall League, as the Phoenix Desert Dogs beat the Rafters, 7-6, at Phoenix Municipal Stadium.

In his previous start, five days ago against Peoria, he was hit hard and often.

Here's the story from mlb.com.

By Alexa Steele  |  October 28, 2009; 10:37 AM ET
 
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Comments

Really? You call this a blog post? Wow.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009 11:12 AM | Report abuse

It's 278 characters, NatsNut, wouldn't fit into the Nationals Journal Twitter feed.

Posted by: Section506 | October 28, 2009 11:26 AM | Report abuse

I guess he's back in the hall of fame now...

Posted by: 1of9000 | October 28, 2009 11:41 AM | Report abuse

oh. right.

They need to work on getting these things smaller, later, and less interesting.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

THIS was worth the mandatory waiting period? bring back tracee!

Posted by: surly_w | October 28, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

IMG Studios, a respected, established production company in Washington DC, is casting for a TV series about die-hard Nationals fans who have such an intense devotion to the lovable Nats that they have had trouble balancing their “real life” responsibilities with their devotion for their team. The person or group of friends must find it hard to balance an active social life, romantic relationship, work or family with the “other person” (Nationals) in their life. They must be willing to participate in a reality series that follows them for a specific period of time, and cannot be camera shy.


If you are interested in being a part of this reality series for television, please send IMG a biographical paragraph and photo to muvena@interfacemedia.com. We will follow up if there is interest.


Thank you.

Posted by: mattw418 | October 28, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

@mattw418:

Should be an interesting show... "Yes, honey, for the 800th time, I *know* who Will Nieves is."

Posted by: jp2000 | October 28, 2009 12:33 PM | Report abuse

@jp2000:

"But honey, Wil only spells it with one L."

Posted by: jp2000 | October 28, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

Who?

In other Surprise! news, A. Crow is starting vs. the Saguaros today.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 12:39 PM | Report abuse

Story on Caw, uh, Crow, and some other AFL stuff here:

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/minors/winter-baseball/arizona-fall-league/

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 12:43 PM | Report abuse

Will they let you wear a "FIRE Danny and Vinny" tee shirt throughout the show?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 28, 2009 12:49 PM | Report abuse

"die-hard Nationals fans who have such an intense devotion to the lovable Nats"

As opposed to the unlovable Nats, whom no one likes.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 28, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

And does it disqualify me if I get thrown out of the park?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 28, 2009 12:53 PM | Report abuse

I dedicated a whole 10 minutes of my lunch hour finding this: =)

ARGH! I hate the damn Phillies! HATE HATE HATE. I hate Jimmy Rollins and his damned good playing abilities and beefy, but speedy Ryan Howard and broken-handed Chase Utley, and stupid Pat Burrell, and don't even get me started on Shane Victorino and this Hamel freak. I hate them all! ARGH! HATE!
Posted by: Section 506 (After moving) | August 16, 2007 10:18 PM

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009 1:15 PM | Report abuse

and this:

Why is Utley ALWAYS at bat. ALWAYS. No matter when I turn to the game, no matter what tough spot we're in, Utley is always at the plate.
I hate, hate, hate the Phillies. They are our rivals, [RF] the O's.

Posted by: Section 506 (After moving) | July 26, 2007 3:04 PM

(sorry, 506. don't mean to get all periculum on you, but this sh** is funny!)

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009 1:19 PM | Report abuse

hahaha, thanks NatsNut. You can imagine my horror at the World Series this year.

Posted by: Section506 | October 28, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

Excellent work, NatsNut! You've earned your searcher's wings with those. I will say in Victorino's favor that he totally rocks the cute little cheerleader skirt. :-)

sec3, thanks for your excellent questions. Your call is very important to us. Please stay on the line and wait for the next available reality show representative... (cue "Heart" music)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

Re. the series matchup, "they are loathesome, offensive brutes, yet I cannot look away."

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 2:45 PM | Report abuse

(sorry, 506. don't mean to get all periculum on you, but this sh** is funny!)

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009

Beware NatsNut there's a gigantic shark tearing into huge great whites off Australia's coast. Might send him your way ... :)

Posted by: periculum | October 28, 2009 2:55 PM | Report abuse

1a1, absolutely sums it up,
Perfect quote, PERFECT!

Posted by: HotNats | October 28, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Aeriously. A thing of beauty, 1a. Well done.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009 2:59 PM | Report abuse

oops. pinky slipped. *S*eriously.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009 3:00 PM | Report abuse

(Pardon me if I've come in in the middle of a conversation. I haven't yet bridged the comments gap between yesterday afternoon and now).

Re: World Series, many people had heard me mention that a Yankees-Phillies World Series was my nightmare (who do I root *for*?). Now, despite my assertions that baseball is not played after October 4th (except for AFL and Winter ball), they still insisted on playing to a World Series. Now we are on the eve of my nightmare and I have come up with a way to get through this without all the cursing and spitting (really, I can get ugly in some situations. See: late innings of Nats-Phillies game in September when we almost blew a 6 run lead). I have found reasons to be happy with whichever team wins.

At first I was behind the Phillies taking down the Yankees (I REALLY hate the Yankees). Then the Philly fans got a bit smug (a bit?) and pompous. One friend used the term "dynasty" to describe the current Phillies. Yeah, they needed to be knocked down a few dozen pegs. So then I am left rooting for the Yankees, whom I hate with almost ever fiber of my being. I would like nothing more than for them to lose another World Series. I would also enjoy seeing Mr. Texiera without a ring (I don't dislike because he signed with the Yankees. I dislike the way that he handled the whole thing).

So, summing up:

Yay if Phillies win because then the Yankees have been denied yet again.

Yay if the Yankees win because then the Phillies will be put in their right place.

Option 3: Keep trying to ignore the whole thing and focus on the Caps and college football. Oh, and stop writing such long comments to the blog (I think my comment is longer than the post).

Posted by: LurkerNowPoster | October 28, 2009 3:11 PM | Report abuse

"In other Surprise! news, A. Crow is starting vs. the Saguaros today.

Story on Caw, uh, Crow, "

Isn't that the Smallville, KS High School Mascot?

Posted by: periculum | October 28, 2009 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Strasburg will start off in Syracuse after all ... with the mighty Chiefs?

Posted by: periculum | October 28, 2009 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"The Chiefs staff will be entirely new in 2010 with Manager Trent Jewett and a new hitting coach (Darnell Coles is the hitting coordinator in Milwaukee) and pitching coach (Rich Gale was let go after the 2009 season)." _brian

Wondering if Foli is a top candidate for the Manager's job in Washington?

Posted by: periculum | October 28, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Anyone over here on NJ who is disappointed by the lack of frequency and substance in the blog posts recently should go over and check out the Post's Baseball Insider blog. They've got some real substantive, fresh analysis going on over there.

Of course, it's about the Red Sox. Since, you know, that's much more important and pressing material for The Washington Post to provide its online readers than any topical reporting or analysis about the Nats might be.

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | October 28, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

I don't really follow the show, but after some Googling, danged if it isn't their mascot. hehe.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 3:23 PM | Report abuse

Good one about the post lengths, LNP. :-D

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 3:24 PM | Report abuse

LNP, don't worry. Even this is longer than the blog post.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Don't you wish that was the name of our team?

Dessert Dogs. Or maybe DC Dogs?

Posted by: franklennox | October 28, 2009 3:39 PM | Report abuse

And as if to compound the insult, the Post's Cameron Smith goes on at length about the tragic brain drain now occurring in the front office of the Red Sox without even mentioning that their director of international scouting Johnny DiPuglia - think he might have had anything to do with acquiring the likes of Dice-K, Okajima et al? - to the Nationals. Poor DiPuglia. He's now become a non-person, his name never to appear again in the Washington Post.

Posted by: section309 | October 28, 2009 3:41 PM | Report abuse

"The Chiefs staff will be entirely new in 2010 with Manager Trent Jewett and a new hitting coach (Darnell Coles is the hitting coordinator in Milwaukee) and pitching coach (Rich Gale was let go after the 2009 season)." _brian

Wondering if Foli is a top candidate for the Manager's job in Washington?

Posted by: periculum | October 28, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse
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The folks in Syracuse are going to miss Coles. From what I could tell over my short trip there in August, they seemed to really like him and enjoy interacting with him. As for Foli, this new developement leads me to believe that he might be in the running for the Nats manager.

Posted by: LurkerNowPoster | October 28, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

The Chatter has another AFL update, this one from the airport.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 3:51 PM | Report abuse

since "world wide" wilbon is the post's arizona-based sports correspondent, his editor should make him get off his fat can and go cover the AFL.

Posted by: surly_w | October 28, 2009 4:11 PM | Report abuse

I'd say there's virtually no chance that Foli gets the Nats manager job. They're not going to disrespect Riggleman by passing him over in favor of another guy who's already in the organization. More likely Foli will end up as a coach on the big league team whether Riggleman gets hired or not. You'd have to think that Pat Corrales at his age is probably not eager for another year of the daily grind of being a bench coach, so there will be at least one opening on the coaching staff. I can even see a scenario where both Riggleman and Foli are coaches for a new manager like Mattingly. Riggleman is the kind of guy who just has bench coach written all over him.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | October 28, 2009 4:24 PM | Report abuse

I've been a Wilbon fan for years, but he knows nothing about the Nats, other than the Fails that show up on the Bog. He would add nothing.

Looks like the Dogs are going Nat-less today. Maybe Storen gets in late, but the position guys have the day off. As for Strasburg, I think he should make a start for each affliate, starting with Potomac, before being called up. He's not going to be allowed to pitch more than 150-170 innings so there's no reason to put him on the Opening Day roster. Let him sell-out Potomac, Harrisburg and Syracuse in April and May then call him in June (if all goes well) to begin our Summer of Steven Extravaganza. The Astros did something similar with Clemens a few years ago with a tour of the minors before being called up.

Posted by: sec307 | October 28, 2009 4:25 PM | Report abuse

I know surly_w was probably kidding, but can't the Post even affored to send a stringer to the AFL games or pickup the local newspapers coverage of the league? This alleged "post" is embarrassing.

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 28, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

FTETPTBCCH--I agree with you about Riggelman and bench coach. I think he makes a fabulous bench coach but I'm not sure about manager. I'm willing to let him have the chance though. The downside is that he can't go back to being the Nats bench coach if he doesn't work out as manager in 2010 (by that I mean, if they name him manager and he doesn't work out, I don't think he can go back to bench coach).

Posted by: LurkerNowPoster | October 28, 2009 4:33 PM | Report abuse

Re:Strasburg. Has anyone watched the "Buy Season tickets for 2010" video on the Nat's website? I just caught it the other day. (All written) "Coming in 2010" *highlight of Ryan Zimmerman* "Ryan Zimmerman", *highlight of Nyjer Morgan* "Nyjer Morgan", *highlight of Adam Dunn*, "Adam Dunn", *up close shot of Steven Strasburg* (no mention of his name though).

Think they are selling him hard for next year? Heck, they paid enough to get him, might as well ride the hype.

Posted by: LurkerNowPoster | October 28, 2009 4:38 PM | Report abuse

I don't get why the Nats are campaigning for people to vote for the presidents for that this year in baseball award. The presidents are like trucked over by the Pittsburgh pierogies. That's embarrasing

Posted by: artvandelay2 | October 28, 2009 5:19 PM | Report abuse

I must agree with Mr. V. :-) However, that didn't stop me from voting for a certain third baseman in the defense category.

Also, Byron Kerr has a new AFL-related post on the MASN site.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 6:22 PM | Report abuse

Looks like the mad D-Dogs took a chunk out of the Javelinas, with a final of 11-6. Storen did get into the game: 1 IP, 1 H (a double), 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 28, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

@LNP - I agree. I'm hoping that, somehow, both teams lose. I know it's impossible, but maybe.

OTOH, I'm really sorry that the Rockies didn't win the NL pennant. Blizzard in Denver. Fire Bud!

Posted by: mikecatcher50 | October 28, 2009 7:34 PM | Report abuse

I know there's not a whole lotta love for the world series teams here, but Jimmy saying this in new york makes me like him more:

"Well, of course we're going to win," Rollins told Leno. "If we're nice, we'll let it go six, but I'm thinking five and close it out at home."

Posted by: NatsNut | October 28, 2009 9:36 PM | Report abuse

On the other hand, I thought he sounded like a jerk.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 7:23 AM | Report abuse

You can imagine my horror at the World Series this year.

Posted by: Section506 | October 28, 2009 2:24 PM

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I've compared it with having to choose between typhoid and bubonic plague.

Posted by: greggwiggins | October 29, 2009 8:36 AM | Report abuse

What was so bad about Horace Clarke?

Slow day amid sputtering over Yanks and Phils, so I thought I'd ask.

When arguing that they do know hard times (HA!), Yankees fans point to the mid 1960s - early 1970s. What puzzles me how, without fail, they mention Horace Clarke, roll their eyes, and shake their heads. I don't recall him being that bad, and his stats look respectable.

Anyone here know how Horace Clarke came to be the poster child for a rare stretch of Yankees mediocrity?

Or is it just not worth trying to figure Yankees fans out?

Posted by: KenNat | October 29, 2009 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Probably not worth trying to figure them out, KenNat. ;-)

I clicked back and forth from the game until I was too sleepy to stay up (daggone late start times). As previously noted, I don't care for either team. However, I started to freak myself out because I was actively rooting for Yankees players. ("Come on, get on base so A-Rod can bat you in," followed closely by "I can't believe I just said that.") Like I said, my head just might explode if I watch much of this series.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 9:38 AM | Report abuse

WAPO finally comes full circle in the Sydner vortex, Sally Jenkins has weighed in. Lets see, that makes at least 4 heavy weights all commenting on the same thing, plus the daily short essay's by the second string. Its unbelievable!

Funny stuff does seem to come out of Ashburn on a daily basis, but its always strange how the WAPO and the rest of the DC media outlets square all of this when THEY carried Synders water. Meaning, they swallowed the bait and now when the fish gets away they turn on the guy with the pole.

Ballgame over, World Series Game 1 over, Yankess lose, thuuuuuuuuuugh Yank-ees lose!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | October 29, 2009 9:46 AM | Report abuse

The Snyder story is a big one, I'm okay with the coverage on this.

Posted by: Section506 | October 29, 2009 9:50 AM | Report abuse

mikecatcher50, you're not the first to suggest, "I'm really sorry that the Rockies didn't win the NL pennant. Blizzard in Denver."

Somebody on one of Tom Boswell's chats said that baseball's proper comeuppance for the extension of the postseason to make the TV networks happy would be for the 2010 World Series to be between the Rockies and the Twins, (in the Twinkies' new open-air ballpark). Two playoff teams this year, certainly not beyond the realm of possibility for next season.

Don't just envision the likely weather in the two cities at this time next year, think of how the TV execs would whimper over a matchup of two small markets.

Posted by: greggwiggins | October 29, 2009 9:53 AM | Report abuse

That would be priceless.

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Don't just envision the likely weather in the two cities at this time next year, think of how the TV execs would whimper over a matchup of two small markets.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 10:01 AM | Report abuse

The Washington Times has one of their baseball writers in Arizona, and this is the best the Post can do? Why isn't Harlan covering the AFL? Sure, have Sheinin and Boswell at the World Series, but with Strasburg, Storen, Espinosa, Marrero, etc. playing in AZ, shouldn't the Nats' beat writer be out there?

Posted by: ericp331 | October 29, 2009 10:07 AM | Report abuse

@GW...

That was me.

Posted by: mikecatcher50 | October 29, 2009 10:16 AM | Report abuse

I hate both teams in the WS with a passion but, I've always been a NL guy so, I'm rooting for the Phillies.

I may hate their fans because they are obnoxious fools but, I do respect the way they have built there club. I also don't find Charlie Manuel, Utley (sorry 506), Howard, Rollins, Victorino, etc. as easy to hate as ARod, Jeter, Riveria, etc.

Thus, I'm rooting for the Phillies by a slim margin.

Also, the lack of coverage in the paper and blog posts on the NJ are an embarrassment.

Posted by: Section505203 | October 29, 2009 10:23 AM | Report abuse

ericP; since their research indicates that there is no interest in the Nationals they are to busy to send anyone.

I heard this argument last night between Holden Kushner and Grant Paulson. They both said the best game experience in DC is the CAPS, Wiz, Nats in that order and the worst is the Redskins.
Their reasoning was; the CAPS have a core fan base which is not very big but the people who show up are real fans and make even the casual of fan want to come back. The Wiz draw a better corporate crowd, "night out" type of thing but it doesn't matter because they have a large fan base that they can draw from to fill 20K seats. The Nats have no fan base and the few people who do show up are there for the other team...., blah, blah, blah. No explanation as to the Redskins because as they said its self explanatory.

Whats the point of all this; Here are two guys yaking about the 4 local teams as if each team played in different cities. Okay maybe if these guys (all of the talking heads on radio & TV) would warm up to the idea that all 4 teams are important and even the most casual of fan might have some interest the nonsense of "us vs them" might stop.

Synders worst nightmare; CAPS in the SC finals, Wiz win 50+, go deep into the NBA playoffs, and the Nats make a splash, stay competetive thru the summer and into Sept.
Oh we can only hope!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | October 29, 2009 11:24 AM | Report abuse

21-year-old Chapman -- a free agent after defecting from his home country -- Multiple reports have indicated that the left-handed Chapman, who also goes by the first name Albertin, could command between $40-60 million this winter. The Yankees, Red Sox, Orioles, White Sox, A's, Cubs, Cardinals and Mets have all been mentioned as having interest in Chapman, who is considered one of the top pitching prospects in the world.

Chapman, who pitched for the Cuban national team during the World Baseball Classic in the spring, successfully defected from Cuba while taking part in a tournament in the Netherlands in July. That came after Chapman fell short in his attempt to defect in the spring of 2008. He was suspended and kept off Cuba's team for the '08 Beijing Olympics as a result.

Posted by: Enrico1 | October 29, 2009 11:29 AM | Report abuse

I bet Chapman will sign in the $20-25 mil range. From what I read, he's not as polished as Strasburg and will probably need some time in the minors. That said, a LH version of SS wouldn't be so bad. Our new director of International Scouting is a Saux guy, so I'm sure he knows all about Sr. Chapman. My vote goes to signing Chapman and passing on Harper (although the FO could probably afford both with all the bad contracts coming off the books). A 2011 rotation headlined by Strasburg, ZNN and Chapman would start to turn some heads.

Posted by: sec307 | October 29, 2009 12:34 PM | Report abuse

"The Yankees, Red Sox, Orioles, White Sox, A's, Cubs, Cardinals and Mets have all been mentioned as having interest in Chapman, who is considered one of the top pitching prospects in the world."

At least five of the eight mentioned here would outbid DC. I think it's ropas viejas for us in 2010.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 29, 2009 1:43 PM | Report abuse

"As one of the most well-known faces of the poorly performing Yankees teams from 1967 to 1973, that period in Yankees history is commonly referred to as 'The Horace Clarke Era.'"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Clarke

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 29, 2009 1:45 PM | Report abuse

Look, we're reduced to going out there ourselves if we want any news, now. Sorry I missed Cathy when I was there. Although she may still be mad at me for dissing her commercial.
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The Washington Times has one of their baseball writers in Arizona, and this is the best the Post can do? Why isn't Harlan covering the AFL? Sure, have Sheinin and Boswell at the World Series, but with Strasburg, Storen, Espinosa, Marrero, etc. playing in AZ, shouldn't the Nats' beat writer be out there?
Posted by: ericp331 | October 29, 2009 10:07 AM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 29, 2009 1:52 PM | Report abuse

The Nats finished ahead of the Yanks in '66 (Yankees 10th!), '67 and '69, Sweet it was.

Posted by: nats24 | October 29, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

Stupid World Series. No news 'til it's over. (Stomps from virtual room.)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 3:05 PM | Report abuse

Foli won't be managing Syracuse next year. could this mean the Riggleman will be given the managing job and Foli will be his bench coach?

Posted by: brothbart | October 29, 2009 3:19 PM | Report abuse

In the Serious, I'm rooting for the meteor.

Posted by: markfromark | October 29, 2009 4:52 PM | Report abuse

The Washington Times has one of their baseball writers in Arizona, and this is the best the Post can do? Why isn't Harlan covering the AFL? Sure, have Sheinin and Boswell at the World Series, but with Strasburg, Storen, Espinosa, Marrero, etc. playing in AZ, shouldn't the Nats' beat writer be out there?

Posted by: ericp331 | October 29, 2009 10:07 AM

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well it's you guys' fault. not you specifically, but a generic "you". Ya'll keep coming here and embracing the crappy, substandard coverage, rather than going to the website where they have people who seem to actually care about covering the Nats.

and yes, I know the reasons. everyone is scared that if they look at the Times' Nats Blog, that the chinese guy will brainwash them.

I just find it funny and interesting that everyone spends all their time and effort coming here and complaining about the lack of Nats coverage, while blatantly ignoring the quality Nats Coverage that is happening elsewhere.

Posted by: MrMadison | October 29, 2009 5:47 PM | Report abuse

@brothbart: Foli 1) may be in line for one of the MLB coaching positions with WSH for 2010 (I personally doubt that Corrales will come back as bench coach), 2) might have an outside shot at the Managers' spot, or 3) could get offered a position as the Ass't Scouting Director [Professional players]. Tim has history with the Org. from Montreal; I doubt they'll just let him walk away at this point.

If Riggleman gets the Mgr's gig full-time, I could see Foli on the staff as a bench or 3B coach. Could be that one of the current coaches wants to try managing (Listach or Knoor?); they could fill one of the openings at POT or HAR.

Posted by: BinM | October 29, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

I thought he was Korean

Posted by: Section506 | October 29, 2009 5:49 PM | Report abuse

506: Yes, Sun Myung Moon, the Times' founder is Korean, not Chinese. Also, Zuckerman (their AFL "correspondant"), was only in Phoenix for four days, which is about the same amount of time as Tracee was out there for the Post.

Posted by: BinM | October 29, 2009 6:04 PM | Report abuse

well it's you guys' fault. not you specifically, but a generic "you". Ya'll keep coming here and embracing the crappy, substandard coverage, rather than going to the website where they have people who seem to actually care about covering the Nats.

and yes, I know the reasons. everyone is scared that if they look at the Times' Nats Blog, that the chinese guy will brainwash them.

I just find it funny and interesting that everyone spends all their time and effort coming here and complaining about the lack of Nats coverage, while blatantly ignoring the quality Nats Coverage that is happening elsewhere.

Posted by: MrMadison | October 29, 2009 5:47 PM
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xo-sign, mr. mad. if you don't get it, you won't get it.

Posted by: surly_w | October 29, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

MLB bears responsibility for the no news until after the series edict. And the Nats bear some for going along with it, unlike, say, the Indians and Astros. Which is not to say that coverage here hasn't been lacking recently, because it has, IMO. (That was a lot of negatives. I kinda confused *myself* there.)

On another note, regarding NJ denizens and their reading habits, the fact that people spend time on here does not necessarily mean that they don't spend time elsewhere. I would think that unless one is all-seeing, and all-knowing, one could not say which other sites people might visit, or which sites they might ignore. Furthermore, the fact that some individuals have stated that they don't frequent a particular site because for whatever reason does not mean that "everybody" feels the same way.

On the contrary, readers often post here regarding items that they found elsewhere. That would be an indication that at least some readers spend time on other sites as well, and are not ignoring Nats coverage elsewhere. So "everyone" does not apply here either.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Crud. Lose the "because" in the second paragraph. And I was waxing so eloquent and all. In my opinion. :-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 6:29 PM | Report abuse

@1a1: If I make generalized, yet declarative statements regarding the Nationals, their fans, and the viewpoints of the denizens of planet NJ, should I re-create myself with another avitar or nom-de-plume?

Posted by: BinM | October 29, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Wait. You have an avatar? Do tell.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 6:42 PM | Report abuse

@1a1: Please don't misunderstand - That wasn't pointed at your posts personally, but rather a general question directed toward you (since you're currently "on the board").

Posted by: BinM | October 29, 2009 6:44 PM | Report abuse

I'm not sure I get your drift, BinM. Maybe because it's dinner time and my blood sugar is plummeting. See you later.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 6:47 PM | Report abuse

The Phillies in six; BOOK IT!!!

Posted by: dargregmag | October 29, 2009 6:52 PM | Report abuse

@1a1: My avatar (my ego, in Freudian terms, I suppose) would be a construct of my love of baseball, numbers, dogs, and maps. The closest representation I can think of might be Brian from "The Family Guy".

Posted by: BinM | October 29, 2009 7:11 PM | Report abuse

Ah, I see. I was thinking more of the Internet graphics type of avatar. I'm not familiar with the "Family Guy" characters, but that would be an interesting avatar to design.

So, what were the D-Dogs up to today?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 7:26 PM | Report abuse

In AFL news, the Desert Dogs (10-4, East) lost today's game to the Peoria Saguaros (7-8, West), 0-4.

Out of the Box (Nationals' results):
Espinosa (SS): 1/4, 1-2B, 1SO.
Marrero (1B): 2/4, 1SO; 1E.
Rooney (CA): 0/2, 1SO; 1E, 3SBA.

Posted by: BinM | October 29, 2009 7:29 PM | Report abuse

Oh well. Can't win 'em all. I'm glad that Espinosa wasn't badly injured in that one game he came out of early. SBA would be stolen bases allowed? Yeesh, if so.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Oops, the Desert Dogs are actually 10-5.

Posted by: BinM | October 29, 2009 7:42 PM | Report abuse

@1a1: Yes, SBA = Stolen Base Allowed. Remember, a stolen base should be at least a 50% split beween pitcher & catcher.

Posted by: BinM | October 29, 2009 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Thanks, BinM. Maybe he was slow to the plate.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 29, 2009 7:52 PM | Report abuse

"from my avataras ascending, while others doubtless await me..."
--Walt Whitman

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 30, 2009 12:43 AM | Report abuse

"If you don't like the news, go make your own."
--"Scoop" Nisker

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 30, 2009 12:44 AM | Report abuse

"It's never too early to start beefing up your obituary. Stay thirsty, my friends."
--The Most Interesting Man in the World

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 30, 2009 12:46 AM | Report abuse

"I like turtles."
--zombie boy

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 30, 2009 12:47 AM | Report abuse

sec3 was having fun last night, er, this morning. :-)

And from Chatsville, the good thing about being from a "major league town" is that you get good seats at the Greatest Show On Earth. Awesome.

Tom Boswell: Sheinin and I are pretty savvy, sitting together in the "main". After 20+ years in the aux box in right field, from 400-to-500 feet away, it's nice to represent a paper from a "major league town" and get normal seating at post-season games. I've probably written 100 World Series game columns when I had a worse view, less access to anything, than any viewer at home. It's still always a ball. Everything that you've studied all year (or for many players or teams for many years), everybody you've talked to all season (or interviewed before that night's game) comes into play. And all on lovey deadlines: You have to your first column finished and in to your editors before the game ends. File your final column, with quotes, 60 minutes after the game. Same for Sheinin. I've always loved it. As the golfer's say in the 'major championships,' the tougher the conditions, the more it weeds out the field.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 9:33 AM | Report abuse

Once again my friend Holden Kushner comes thru!

Last night at approx 1923 Kushner says to his listening audience, "okay we can talk baseball, the world series, A-Rod, Phillies, just don't talk about the Nationals, I don't want my ratings to fall thru the floor"

FU Holden, you rotten piece of garbage!

Uncle Ted please buy a radio station your team ain't never going to get a fair hearing in this town as long as bozo's like this and the other jerks have access to the airwaves.

Posted by: TippyCanoe | October 30, 2009 9:52 AM | Report abuse

Speaking of talking to oneself ... I bet Ted is mumbling about this one:
http://tinyurl.com/yg6tfxy

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 30, 2009 10:17 AM | Report abuse

Dominican court orders Nationals to pay $40K

The Associated Press
Thursday, October 29, 2009; 10:16 AM

SANTO DOMINGO, Dominican Republic -- A Dominican Republic tribunal has ordered the Washington Nationals to pay $40,000 in damages to a scout who was fired after signing a prospect who lied about his age.

Jose Baez, the Nationals' former director of operations in the Dominican Republic, sued the team for what he said was an unjustified firing. The court issued its order last week.

In 2006, Baez and special assistant to the general manager Jose Rijo signed a player who identified himself as 16-year-old Esmailyn Gonzalez. The Nationals gave the player a $1.4 million signing bonus.

A Major League Baseball investigation determined Gonzalez was about 4 years older than he said and also lied about his name.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 30, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Fernando Ravelo, who works for the Nationals in the Dominican Republic, said Wednesday he was not aware of the court's decision and declined comment.

Nationals spokesman John Dever wrote in an e-mail the team would not comment.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 30, 2009 10:18 AM | Report abuse

Hey, at least we didn't have to go to the DR ourselves to get this story.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 30, 2009 10:19 AM | Report abuse

Someone posted this in the forum on the Nats site. hehe.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/11/2009/10/500x_philllies.jpg

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 10:28 AM | Report abuse

See if you can figure out what the "l" is wrong with it... :-D

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 10:29 AM | Report abuse

Sec3

ESPN.com's Jorge Arangure Jr. (remember him) had the story two days ago.

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 30, 2009 1:46 PM | Report abuse

Jorge Arangure? Nope, doesn't ring a bell. I'm sure he's a horrible sports writer, though!

Posted by: Section506 | October 30, 2009 2:08 PM | Report abuse

No doubt Barry wouldn't have liked him, either, whoever he is.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 2:35 PM | Report abuse

we just need 179 more comments on this thread to exceed the number of characters in the original post. c'mon, njers you can do it!

Posted by: surly_w | October 30, 2009 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Here's my contribution. From SI.com, by way of MASN (which has a new Dunn interview up, BTW):

Though the Nationals have expressed interest in Bobby Valentine, they are believed to want to keep their managerial salary under $1 million. It's getting harder to imagine that they will replace interim Jim Riggleman.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jon_heyman/10/29/lee.bargain/1.html

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 2:41 PM | Report abuse

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rAHnwWfsaY&feature=related

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 2:43 PM | Report abuse

I'll play. Manny is on the hunt for his new Tribe coaching staff.

http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2009/10/fox_analyst_manny_acta_is_seek.html

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 30, 2009 2:52 PM | Report abuse

manny is a fox analyst, he of the sub .400 major league winning percentage? closest he'll get to being in a series?

Posted by: surly_w | October 30, 2009 2:57 PM | Report abuse

Tidbit from today's AFL game notes:

The Desert Dogs own a league-best 10-5 record ... league’s best hitting (.322) and pitching (4.60 ERA) team ... league leader in
runs (120) and home runs (26) ... hitting .524 (11-21) with the bases loaded ... pitchers have walked only 47 batters (second in league is 64) ... also plunked a league-low three batters.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 3:04 PM | Report abuse

"manny is a fox analyst, he of the sub .400 major league winning percentage? closest he'll get to being in a series? "

Spanish language, if I remember correctly. His popularity in DR cannot be overstated.

Posted by: Section506 | October 30, 2009 3:27 PM | Report abuse

Yes, he's done Spanish-language broadcasts in the past as well.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 4:22 PM | Report abuse

In this World Series we could be watching as many as eight or nine Hall of Famers -- Pedro, Howard, Utley, Jeter, Rivera, maybe A-ROID, Sabathia, Teixeira, Pettitte. That made me wonder which Series featured the most HOF-ers. Best guess is 1928, with an incredible 14. The Yanks had skipper Miller Huggins, 1b Gehrig, 2b Lazzeri, OF Ruth, OF Combs, P Waite Hoyt and a utility infielder named Leo Durocher. The Cards had MGR Bill McKechnie, 1b Jim Bottomley, 2b Frankie Frisch, SS Rabbit Maranville, OF Chick Hafey, P Grover Cleveland Alexander, P Jess Haines. It would have been 15, but Yanks' starter Herb Pennock was out with arm trouble. This must be the record, but it deserves an asterisk. In the early '70s Frisch was named to the Hall's Veterans Committee and they voted in a few of his old cronies from the Cardinals and the Giants.

Posted by: Drew8 | October 30, 2009 4:29 PM | Report abuse

> Baseball Insider

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 30, 2009 4:32 PM | Report abuse

I guess this thread is going to stay "live" until either A) the Nationals hire a Manager, or B) Strasburg pitches again. Which do you think will happen first (Strasburg is scheduled for Monday)?

Posted by: BinM | October 30, 2009 6:16 PM | Report abuse

BinM, in that case, we should look for a new post around 4:30 pm on Tuesday.

Thanks for the heads up. I won't want to miss the riveting link they'll give us to mlb.com's story on Strasburg's outing.

Posted by: NatsNut | October 30, 2009 6:24 PM | Report abuse

Here's a new Q&A for the denizens of planet NJ: How would you prioritize the teams' needs from the following list.
> Add a Catcher.
> Add a Middle Infielder; 2B or SS?
> Add an Outfielder.
> Add relief pitchers; 2, 3, or more?
> Add starting pitching; 1 or 2?
> Offer Arbitration to: Nieves; Orr; Willingham; Olsen; Bergmann; Burnett; Kensing; MacDougal; Rivera.
> Re-sign / extend Dunn.
> Re-sign Livan Hernandez.

On adding players, you don't have to name specific target players - just note the area of need or the # of players to be added. Everybody play along, it will at least give us something to poke at while waiting for the next feeding.

Posted by: BinM | October 30, 2009 6:39 PM | Report abuse

In AFL news, the Desert Dogs dropped another one, this time to the Peoria Javalinas 4-5. Once again, a TB reliever gets "lit up" to put the game out of reach - Last night, it was Gorgen, this afternoon it was Phillips.

Nationals' of note:
Espinosa (SS): 1/4, 12B, 2SO.
Marrero (DH): 2/4, 1HR, 1RS, 1RBI, 1SO.

Posted by: BinM | October 30, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

OMG! MLB on XM has scraped the bottom of the barrel. Not content to have a mediocrity like Holden Kushner fouling the sat rad airwaves, the network is actually pairing Jeff Joyce tonight with...JIM BOWDEN! OMG!

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 30, 2009 7:06 PM | Report abuse

OMG! MLB on XM has scraped the bottom of the barrel. Not content to have a mediocrity like Holden Kushner fouling the sat rad airwaves, the network is actually pairing Jeff Joyce tonight with...JIM BOWDEN! OMG!

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 30, 2009 7:06 PM

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scraped the bottom of the barrel? can't you see through the hole? who's next from the pantheon of disgraced former general managers, steve phillips? SoCH, we turn our lonely eyes to you. you know what needs to be done.

Posted by: surly_w | October 30, 2009 7:19 PM | Report abuse

Say what you want about Jim Bowden, he's always been quite entertaining. Right up there with the likes of John Riggins on the football side, except obviously without the championship past. Should make for some great radio there, for those that have XM anyway.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | October 30, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Say what you want about Jim Bowden, he's always been quite entertaining. Right up there with the likes of John Riggins on the football side, except obviously without the championship past. Should make for some great radio there, for those that have XM anyway.

Posted by: FromTheEclipseThePlaceThatBobCarpenterCallsHome | October 30, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

Here's my personal spin on my questionnare:
1> Add starting pitching - 1; Hopefully, an inning-eater who would be servicable as a #1 on the Nationals rotation for 2010.
2> Add relief pitching - 3; At least one LH, and two middle-inning "bridge" pitchers.
3> Add a MI - prefer a defense-first 2B.
4> Re-sign / extend Adam Dunn; Until someone else comes up, the offense rotates around him.
5> Add a Catcher; Flores seems brittle, and the minor-leaguers are a year or more away.
6> Offer Arbitration to: Yes to Nieves, Willingham, Bergmann, Burnett & MacDougal; No to Orr, Olsen, Kensing & Rivera.
7> Re-sign Livan Hernandez; At worst, he's a bottom-of-the-rotation inning-eater.
8> Add an Outfielder.

Posted by: BinM | October 30, 2009 7:23 PM | Report abuse

http://masnsports.com/2009/10/bible-says-zimmermans-the-best.html

Posted by: NatsNut | October 30, 2009 7:49 PM | Report abuse

Bob Boone is going to be a guest on MLB on XM next hour. Should be an interesting conversation with his former boss.

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 30, 2009 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Leetee; its only going to get better on XM 175 MLB Homeplate, Bowden is spending the weekend on air and is paired up with the weezal AKA Holden Kushner on Sunday AM! Yikes, imagine Bowden the Blowhard paired up with Mr. No Where Man!

Hey Holden let JimBow know you will talk anything baseball, except the Nats. You don't want your ratings to go thru the floor!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | October 30, 2009 9:48 PM | Report abuse

Jim Bowden on XM, huh? I'll pass this time, thanks. If I listen, I might be tempted to throw my Inno out the window while doing 55 on the Dulles Toll Road. Holden and Jim on Sunday? Yikes! What's the number to call for channel blocking? Seriously though, it might be entertaining - JimBo seems like the person who would be well-suited for something like this, so who knows.

In other news, did the Post fire Chico? There have only been a handful of posts since the season ended, and most of them have been by random people and contained no newsworthy information.

Posted by: thepostischeap | October 30, 2009 10:43 PM | Report abuse

The Saint is Florida's new pitching coach.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/other/sfl-florida-marlins-pcoach-s1028sboct28,0,6364154,print.story

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 31, 2009 10:22 AM | Report abuse

Lannan and Stammen pay a visit to some sick children:

http://masnsports.com/index_blog_natsbuzz.html

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 31, 2009 11:42 AM | Report abuse

Z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z.....

Posted by: BinM | October 31, 2009 12:25 PM | Report abuse

So, as we nestle in for the dark months, here's a question to ponder. If you could have attended any game in your lifetime, which would you pick? I couldn't quarrel with Game 6 in '75, with Fisk waving and willing his home run fair. Then there's Game 7 from '91, with Morris and Smoltz locked in a duel for the ages. But I'll take July 13, 1971 -- the All-Star Game in which Reggie hit the moon shot off of Dock Ellis. Consider that there are now 202 former major leaguers in the Hall of Fame. Twenty (!) of them were on the field that night in Detroit: Bench, McCovey, Aaron, Mays, Stargell, Carlton, Jenkins, Marichal, Seaver, Brock, Clemente, Carew, Brooks, Frank, Aparicio, Yaz, Palmer, Killebrew, Reggie and Kaline. All of the runs came on six homers by all-time greats: Bench, Aaron, Jackson, Frank, Killebrew, Clemente. Brother, what a show. I was nearly 9 years old, and "There were giants in the Earth in those days..."

Posted by: Drew8 | October 31, 2009 3:42 PM | Report abuse

One of these:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/1924_WS

...crickets...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 31, 2009 4:17 PM | Report abuse

Among games in my lifetime that I did not attend, the one I wish most that I had would be the final game at Griffith Stadium -- Sept. 21, 1961.

It was a "meaningless" game with the "New Nats" losing to the Twins, or "Old Nats." Only 1,498 attended, but odd as it might sound, I'd pick it over any World Series game in my lifetime.

Posted by: KenNat | October 31, 2009 4:26 PM | Report abuse

That would be a good one.

On another note:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXenuOScA-o&feature=related

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 31, 2009 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I want to be at Opening Day, 2055, the last opening day at Tony Plush Casino (the former Nationals Park).

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 31, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

I'd like to have been at the Nats v. Rockies game where Hawpe hit that homer to center in the second inning ...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 31, 2009 5:18 PM | Report abuse

How about the 1986 game six between the Mets and Astros?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | October 31, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Oh wait, you said in my lifetime. Back to the drawing board...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 31, 2009 5:28 PM | Report abuse

One of two games....

Game 1 of the 1963 World Series ib which Sandy Koufax struck out 15 Yankees

or Game 1 of the 1968 World Series where Bob Gibson struck out 17 Tigers.

By God, pitchers were pitchers then. Pitch count and setup men be damned.

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 31, 2009 5:40 PM | Report abuse

If I had to pick a non-Senators or non-Nationals game, I'd pick the pine tar game. My wife and I lived near NYC back then, and were going to go that day. But we decided against it at the last minute (crumby weather and stuff to do). Now we kick ourselves every time we see the clip of Brett charging out of the dugout.

Posted by: KenNat | October 31, 2009 6:09 PM | Report abuse

could you imagine some of today's CYA-go-by-the-pitch count manager trying to take koufax or gibson or marichal out of a game with a lead because they reached 110 pitches in the seventh inning? bow, THAT would be entertainment.

Posted by: surly_w | October 31, 2009 6:23 PM | Report abuse

@surly

The one thing I don't undertsand about the way pitching staffs are managed today is that managers are constantly using guys who aren't good enough to be either starters or closers to get important outs between the sixth to ninth innings. Lots of those guys have no specialty pitches and seemingly roam the major league landscape forever - see Tavarez, Villone and that ilk. To me, the term "veteran relief pitcher" means someone who has been used up on another team before he gets to your team.

Posted by: leetee1955 | October 31, 2009 6:33 PM | Report abuse

-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z.....

Posted by: BinM | October 31, 2009 12:25 PM

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next new post with a link to mlb.com after strasburg's next start?


Posted by: surly_w | October 31, 2009 6:40 PM | Report abuse

Sounds about right. In non-SS news, the D-Dogs got off the schneid and Storen picked up another save against the Solar Sox (1 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1K.

From the Who'd've Thunk It Department: Veal and Scorpions proved an unfortunate combination for the Saguaros (they were shut out).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 31, 2009 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Oops, that was a 4-3 final for the D-Dogs, evidently with no other Washington players seeing action. Oh, and I found this lurking around ).

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | October 31, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

FRom Nick Cafardo's Sunday Boston Globe baseball column...musings about the Nats' past, present and perhaps future managers

6. Brad Mills, manager, Astros - General manager Ed Wade and owner Drayton McLane probably got the better of it by electing not to give Manny Acta a third year as manager, which he got from the Indians. While Acta is the hot name again, he was clearly one of the worst game managers around, according to many people who watched him. “He may be good with personnel, but he’s got a long way to go in terms of managing a game on the field,’’ said a longtime scout.

7. DeMarlo Hale, third base coach, Red Sox - Shame on every team that hired a new manager for not considering Hale, a guy who has paid his dues, knows the game inside-out, and has the respect of the players he coaches. Hale should have been interviewed in Houston and Cleveland, and he would be a great choice in Washington if the Nationals let Jim Riggleman go.

Posted by: leetee1955 | November 1, 2009 9:49 AM | Report abuse

-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z.....
Posted by: BinM | October 31, 2009 12:25 PM

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next new post with a link to mlb.com after strasburg's next start?
Posted by: surly_w | October 31, 2009 6:40 PM

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Most likely, and posted by an intern to boot. We now return you to your regularly scheduled hibernation. -z-z-z-z-z-z-z...

Posted by: BinM | November 1, 2009 9:56 AM | Report abuse

And it may be too early for the Glove Glove announcement on that day as well. ;-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 1, 2009 12:26 PM | Report abuse

Seeing as how SS is scheduled to start on Monday, that would put the new post at ... Tuesday?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 1, 2009 12:52 PM | Report abuse

We might be fortunate enough to get a mid-game post, once Strasburg's day is finished, but most likely nothing before 6:00pmEST on Monday.

Ooh, new pool - when will the next new post be up? I'm in for 6:15EST on Monday, the 2nd.

Posted by: BinM | November 1, 2009 1:30 PM | Report abuse

Well, the Phillies are still playing. Maybe we could invite some of their fans down here -- it's easy to get a thread started.

(ducking)

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 1, 2009 2:03 PM | Report abuse

for the poll, I'll go with 15:44 Monday.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 1, 2009 2:06 PM | Report abuse

poll, pool ... whuteva

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 1, 2009 2:07 PM | Report abuse

"Most likely, and posted by an intern to boot. We now return you to your regularly scheduled hibernation. -z-z-z-z-z-z-z..."

"Posted by: BinM | November 1, 2009"

GO CHIEFS!

Okay, you can go back to sleep now.

Posted by: periculum | November 1, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

What the hey, put me down for Tuesday a.m. 10ish, maybe?

(Nice Kasten costume, sec3.)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 1, 2009 2:20 PM | Report abuse

It might be time to start speculating on the 40-man roster moving toward the Winter Meetings. As of today (Nov. 1) The Nationals stand at 45 players on the roster, including five players (Flores, DaMeat, Bernadina, Olsen, JZimm) still on the 60-day DL. From that number, I think we can deduct DaMeat (60-DL), and Kearns (via buyout) to arrive at 43. Additionally, Bard, Livo, Villone, & maybe MacDougal are free agents, taking the count to 39. IMO, Livo & MacDougal are probable re-signs, so the roster is assumed to be back up to 41.

Arbitration-eligible players include Nieves, Orr, Willingham, Olsen, Rivera, Bergmann, Burnett, Kensing, and possibly Morse - Tender offers to Nieves, Willingham, Bergmann, Burnett, and Morse & the roster stands at 37. Rule-5 protections might include Daniel (CF-SYR), Lowrance (RF-HAR), Spradlin (LRP-SYR), & Severino (LRP-HAR), running the roster back to 41 overall.

Needless to say, there may still be some cuts to be made before the Winter Meetings in mid-December.

Posted by: BinM | November 1, 2009 3:17 PM | Report abuse

For some reason, the encroaching offseason reminds me of the great Ty Cobb story. In 1960, Lefty O'Doul, himself a great former hitter, was teaching disciples in San Francisco. A kid asked him what Cobb would hit today. O'Doul said: "About .340, the same as Mays." A kid asked: "What's so great about that?" O'Doul said: "You have to remember, the man is 74 years old." That evil SOB could rake.

Posted by: Drew8 | November 1, 2009 5:06 PM | Report abuse

I've heard that attributed to Cobb himself in other versions.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 1, 2009 9:15 PM | Report abuse

As I mentioned previously, I am rooting (if you want to call it that) for the Yankees to win the World Series. While I don't really like them a whole lot, I DESPISE the awful Phillies fans and I really want to see them put in their place. On tonight's WCBS radio broadcast, John Sterling (awful, yes, I know, but the NY broadcast was the first one I came across on my XM when I got in the car this evening) mentioned that tomorrow's early edition of the NY Daily News has a report on how security was increased at Citzens Bank Park. Apparently, on Saturday night, fans were throwing coins at Melky Cabrera and Nick Swisher in the outfield. What jerks. I hope the Phillies lose tonight and tomorrow night. I don't even want their fans to have the satisfaction of one home win this series.

Posted by: thepostischeap | November 1, 2009 11:10 PM | Report abuse

you know, for me, i'm just glad the nats aren't called the washington washies.

i mean, seriously, the phillies were originally the philadelphia philadelphias. what a stupid franchise.

Posted by: artvandelay2 | November 1, 2009 11:53 PM | Report abuse

f*** chico harlan im done with the post goodbye

Posted by: formerlylove1 | November 2, 2009 1:56 AM | Report abuse

I not only hate Philly, I DESPISE everything about them! Nice to see them loose.

Posted by: big_game_lannan | November 2, 2009 1:57 AM | Report abuse

On a related note: I didn't know how to feel about the Nats possibly waiting after the World Series to interview and maybe hire Pete Mackanin, bench coach for the effn Phillies, so I looked him up. He hasn't really been with Philly long (very important for two reasons: doesn't really bleed Philly colors and has probably only been there enough to know some about them, which we may like as a quality on our new manager) and, although I don't like him right this second (I hope they loose game 5), he sounds like a good candidate. Plus he has a Washington connection. Check out the link:

http://philadelphia.phillies.mlb.com/team/coach_staff_bio.jsp?c_id=phi&coachorstaffid=118093

Posted by: big_game_lannan | November 2, 2009 2:06 AM | Report abuse

I guess Mackanin did play for Philly for two years but also with the Expos for three.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Mackanin

Posted by: big_game_lannan | November 2, 2009 2:12 AM | Report abuse

FYI regarding Mackanin

He was originally drafted by the expansion Senators and was a non-roster invitee to 1971 Spring Training at Pompano Beach. So, he does have a tie to baseball here.

Posted by: leetee1955 | November 2, 2009 9:13 AM | Report abuse

This Mackanin speculation, is there an actual source for it anywhere or are you guys just fantasizing? Because the lack of any news on the manager search right now is probably more due to Bud Selig's World Series news blackout than it is to any Nats interest in coaches currently on the Phillies or Yankees. Note that Selig's blackout is for the World Series, not for the entire postseason as others have said. That's why the Astros and the Indians were able to make their moves when they did.

Posted by: section309 | November 2, 2009 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Piece with specifics about upcoming AFL game broadcasts on November 7 and 21:

http://tinyurl.com/ykv9rqz

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 2, 2009 10:26 AM | Report abuse

The Arizona Republic wrote a nice feature yesterday of St. Stephen of Strasburg. This might have to do until somebody at the Post notices this blog hasn't been updated in nearly a week.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/heatindex/articles/2009/11/01/20091101spt-p2mainpiecoro.html

Posted by: leetee1955 | November 2, 2009 12:29 PM | Report abuse

I will add that if you do get out there, the new park in Peoria is especially nice. But for $6/$5 seniors, if you can stand the Clydesdale-filtered water, it's a nice afternoon at the ballpark.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 2:10 PM | Report abuse

I thought they were tight, myself. Except Howard stealing second. Fun watching Posada do a WTPh doubletake.
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I not only hate Philly, I DESPISE everything about them! Nice to see them loose.
Posted by: big_game_lannan | November 2, 2009 1:57 AM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 2:12 PM | Report abuse

re: Pete Mackanin
I found references to him interviewing for the Houston job, but not DC (yet).

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 2:15 PM | Report abuse

BTW, he wasn't on the short list of 2nd interviews in Houston, apparently.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 2:18 PM | Report abuse

I'll come back in 1:20 to read the new post.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 2:24 PM | Report abuse

I heard a report that Strasburg looked pretty good in his third AFL start last Wednesday. Anybody else have info on that?

Posted by: shepdave2003 | November 2, 2009 2:34 PM | Report abuse

Gameday says SS hit 100 three times to the first batter and 101 once to the second guy. 1 K and a DP sandwiched around a single after 1. Marrero had a two-rbi single scoring Espinosa in the top of the inning.

Posted by: sec307 | November 2, 2009 3:09 PM | Report abuse

You know I think they're telling us without really telling us that there isn't going to be an ongoing winterized version of the NJ this year.

Posted by: natbiscuits | November 2, 2009 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Maybe the Post thinks that the no news until after the series policy applies to them as well?

In other, uh, news, Byron Kerr has an interview with the D-Dogs pitching coach.

http://masnsports.com/2009/11/storen-still-rolling-and-more-from-menhart.html

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 2, 2009 3:47 PM | Report abuse

And the Storne Identity (pause for drama-prairie-dog musical interlude)has a new post:

http://natstown.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/the-storen-identity---1030.html

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 2, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

And the Storen Identity (pause for drama-prairie-dog musical interlude)has a new post:

http://natstown.mlblogs.com/archives/2009/11/the-storen-identity---1030.html

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 2, 2009 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Daggone it!

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 2, 2009 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Anybody home at the WAPO Sports desk? Please change the post to read, "SS equally impressive in start #4". This kid is the real deal folks!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | November 2, 2009 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Did anybody catch Byron Kerr's Oct. 21 phoner with Bryce Harper? Seems Harper will take the GED exam on Nov. 13. Asked about the prospect of being taken No. 1 by the Nationals, Harper says: "That'd be awesome." He adds: "Maybe me and Strassy can turn that program around." More ominously, he says he's excited about the prospect of "being able to catch another Boras guy...."

http://masnsports.com/2009/10/sports-illustrated-has-called.html

Posted by: Drew8 | November 2, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

We here on planet NJ shouldn't complain too much, I suppose. Ladson's last blog post on mlb.com was the 19th of October.

Posted by: BinM | November 2, 2009 4:37 PM | Report abuse

I was a bat boy for the Bowie Baysox back in 1994 when he was the manager there. At a minimum I can say he was a nice guy (nice to a bat boy being defined as someone who made eye contact with you, asked you nicely to run errands for them and sometimes tipped, thanked you for washing his clothes and shining his shoes and making his food).

I'll have to ask my Dad if he was a good baseball man with coaching decisions. But being a minor league coach is a tough deal, you have multiple competing priorities (winning, development, etc).

Posted by: ckstevenson | November 2, 2009 4:45 PM | Report abuse

@ck: I wouldn't mind if Mackanin was being looked at for the Managers' spot with the Nationals. He posted a .500 record as an interim on two less-than-adequate teams (PIT-'05 & CIN-'07), and does have a little history with the Orginization as a MON draft pick & player.
That being said, I still see Riggleman as the favorite to get the job for 2010.

Posted by: BinM | November 2, 2009 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Just so it's a part of the permanant NJ record, here's the SS line: 5 IP; 4H; 1R; 1ER; 1BB; 6K's. Marrero 2-5 with 1 2B and 5(!) RBI. Espinosa 2-4 with 3 runs scored.

Posted by: Bethesdangit | November 2, 2009 5:08 PM | Report abuse

And Drew Storen pitched a scoreless 9th (2K's) to close it out. Not a save situation.

Good day for the youngsters!

Posted by: Bethesdangit | November 2, 2009 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Important numbers within the numbers: Strasburg had a 9-0 groundout-flyout ratio. 68 pitches, 43 strikes.

I promise I'm done now ...

Posted by: Bethesdangit | November 2, 2009 5:13 PM | Report abuse

You know I think they're telling us without really telling us that there isn't going to be an ongoing winterized version of the NJ this year.

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I guess they want us kids to go into the other room and play nice while they watch Redskins game tape. You know what? I think most of you are paying much more attention, and will give me better information, anyway.

+1/2St.

Posted by: kevincostello | November 2, 2009 5:22 PM | Report abuse

News from the AFL - Today, the Desert Dogs sunk the Rafters by a final score of 10-2. Steven Strasburg had the start and the win, while six of the seven Nationals prospects had game appearances. Of special note was a rare 3-6-1 DP turned by Snyder-Espinosa-Storey.

Nationals of note:
Espinosa (SS): 2/4, 3RS, 1BB, 1SO; 3DP turned.
Marrero (DH): 2/5, 1-2B, 5RBI.
Strasburg: 5IP, 4H, 1ER, 1BB, 6K, 9GO/0FO; W(3-1), 65PT, 43 strikes.
Wilkie: 1IP, 1K; 2GO/0FO, 10PT, 6 strikes.
Mandel: 1IP, 2H, 1ER; 3GO/0FO, 7PT, 4 strikes.
Storen: 1IP, 2K; 0GO/1FO, 13PF, 7 strikes.

Posted by: BinM | November 2, 2009 5:24 PM | Report abuse

FWIW, tomorrow's pitching matchups are scheduled as WSH's unsigned #1 from 2008 for the Rafters against Talbot(TB-PHO) in a matchup of the same two teams, but PHO will have "home-field" advantage this time.

Posted by: BinM | November 2, 2009 5:45 PM | Report abuse

Caw?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 2, 2009 5:48 PM | Report abuse

-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z-z.....

Posted by: BinM | October 31, 2009 12:25 PM

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next new post with a link to mlb.com after strasburg's next start?


Posted by: surly_w | October 31, 2009 6:40 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Maybe not.

Posted by: leetee1955 | November 2, 2009 6:06 PM | Report abuse

Ben Goessling of the Times has a nice blog entry about Strasburg's fourth AFL start.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/chatter/2009/nov/02/another-solid-start-for-strasburg/

Posted by: leetee1955 | November 2, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

New posts? We don't need no stinkin' new posts!

Posted by: BinM | November 2, 2009 6:08 PM | Report abuse

next thing you know, alexa will be linking this blog to the OP site for updates.

Posted by: surly_w | November 2, 2009 6:13 PM | Report abuse

Straz-zy with 6 K's and 9 groundball outs. No fly ball outs. He's keeping the ball down. Not just a little bit, but pretty much all the time. He is advanced if he can consistently stay down in the zone. Especially with that riding 4-seam fastball in the hi-90's. I mean come on - he's probably learning that he can get people out with less than his best stuff. Just hit spots. Which is the most important lesson for the fall league. Rock on Straz-zy you bad boy. The Dealer

Posted by: Brue | November 2, 2009 6:19 PM | Report abuse

and really, what difference does a new post with no news make, anyway? it's not as if we stayed on topic in here, or as if most of the actual news is in the post itself on a good day.

Of course, we COULD all pick a given time to send Chico an email each, but if there were only a dozen or so, that'd be pretty sad. So maybe not.

What if we all went out onto the grass and got 86'd from the blog?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 6:35 PM | Report abuse

LOL, sec3! You first. :-D

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What if we all went out onto the grass and got 86'd from the blog?

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | November 2, 2009 6:37 PM | Report abuse

Speaking of stalling:
http://tinyurl.com/ycjznqy
Be sure to read to Victorino's cogent assessment at the end.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 6:48 PM | Report abuse

Maybe it's all in the name
http://tinyurl.com/yemfq7f
[Lerner] 'sickened' by losing

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

OK, different image-

On the file cabinet at the corner of my cubicle stand the following:

Dmitri Young leading the Presidents in a line. Teddy is in last place. He has a broken leg, which perhaps explains a lot.

In the foreground, Chad Cordero pitches to Frank Howard. I don't know how fast the pitch would have to be to travel backward in time.

Finally, someone brought me Jose Guillen today. I intend to have him apart from the crowd, looking in whatever direction is meaningful in his world. I am not even sure I should point him toward kansas City.

+1/2St.

Posted by: kevincostello | November 2, 2009 6:51 PM | Report abuse

That may depend on what gesture he's making, K-street.
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I am not even sure I should point him toward Kansas City.
+1/2St.
Posted by: kevincostello | November 2, 2009 6:51 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 6:58 PM | Report abuse

"I don't know how fast the pitch would have to be to travel backward in time."

Whatever it is, you can be sure Willie Harris would be there to hit it.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 2, 2009 6:59 PM | Report abuse

New post - Guess who the featured player is.

Posted by: BinM | November 2, 2009 7:39 PM | Report abuse

202 comments -- not even a record.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | November 3, 2009 1:49 PM | Report abuse

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