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Bruney loses arbitration case

Nats relief pitcher Brian Bruney lost his arbitration case in a decision handed out Wednesday, meaning he will earn $1.5 million this year, not the $1.85 million he requested. According to Bruney, Washington argued for the lesser of those salaries by emphasizing the relief pitcher's recent injury history.

Bruney, acquired in December in a trade with the New York Yankees, has a combined 8-0 record and a 2.95 ERA in the last two seasons. But he has pitched just 76 games (73-1/3 innings) in that span, and has been on the disabled list three times.

An arbitration panel in St. Petersburg, Fla., heard Bruney's case on Tuesday and offered its decision one day later -- Bruney's 28th birthday.

The Nationals have one more unresolved arbitration case, with relief pitcher Sean Burnett. That case is scheduled to be heard Thursday.

By Chico Harlan  |  February 17, 2010; 1:51 PM ET
 
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RePost: The Lerner's appear to "lose arbitration" w/ corrections:

Okay so I like research let's just see what's up over at Forbes.

2008 13th 460 3 54 153 43.7
2009 14th 406 -12 62 184 42.

2008: the rosy butt chiks picture:
(PLEASE note very important foot-note #8)

Team Value $460 mil (1)

Breakdown:
Sport : $170m - 37%
Market: $161m - 35%
Stadium: $85m - 19%
Brand Management: $44m - 10%

The Washington Nationals
are owned by Theodore Lerner (Net Worth: $2.5 billion),
who bought them in 2006
for $450 mil.

2007 Wins-to-player cost ratio 145 (8)


The skinny
Forced to play three years in ancient RFK Stadium after their move from Montreal before the 2005 season, the Nationals finally get the revenue-rich stadium that led Theodore Lerner to pay $450 million for the team in 2006. The city will sell up to $611 million in bonds to finance the 41,200-seat stadium, whose final cost is expected to reach $700 million when upgrades and enhancements by the team on the video system and scoreboard are completed. The new stadium's 66 luxury suites and 2,700 club seats should generate $25 million a year for the Nats, almost three times what the team earned at RFK.

Major corporate sponsors are PNC Financial (nyse: PNC), Geico, Southwest Airlines (nyse: LUV).

1-Yr Value Chg. 3%
Ann. Value Chg. (2) NA
Debt/Value 3 54%
Revenue (4) $153 mil
Operating Inc. (5) $43.7 mil
Player Expenses (6) $57 mil
Gate Receipts (7) $46 m


The always ubiquitous but important fine print:

1 Value of team based on current stadium deal (unless new stadium is pending) without deduction for debt (other than stadium debt).
2 Current team value compared with latest transaction price.
3 Includes stadium debt.
4 Net of stadium revenues used for debt payments.
5 Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization. 6 Includes benefits and bonuses.
7 Includes club seats.
*****************************************
8 Compares the number of wins per player payroll relative to the rest of the MLB. Postseason wins count twice as much as regular season wins. A score of 120 means that the team achieved 20% more victories per dollar of payroll compared with the league average.

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

2009 Team Value $406 mil (1)

The Washington Nationals
are owned by Theodore Lerner (Net Worth: $3.5 billion),
who bought them in 2006
for $450 mil.

2008 Wins-to-player cost ratio 95 (8)
**** Very Important Number and why the value went down ... at least so says Forbes again refer to above foot-note as to why. ******

Breakdown

Sport: $86m - 21 %
Market $167m - 41%
Stadium $106m - 28%
Brand Mgmt: $46m - 10%

1-Yr Value Chg. -12%
Ann. Value Chg. NA (2)
Debt/Value 62% (3)
Revenue $184 mil (4)
Operating Inc. $42.6 mil (5)
Player Expenses $75 mil (6)
Gate Receipts $65 mi (7)

Sport: Portion of franchise's value attributable to revenue shared among all teams.
Market: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its city and market size.
Stadium: Portion of franchise's value attributable to its stadium.
Brand Management: Portion of franchise's value attributable to the management of its brand.
N/A: Not applicable.

According to Forbes, again, the Lerner's are Cheap goose holds the high ground:

The skinny
The owners of the Washington Nationals have **** badly botched the job **** thus far of trying to successfully bring Major League Baseball to the nation's capital for the third time. Blame the Lerner family, who bought the team in 2006 for $450 million and dominate the ownership group. Managing Principal Owner Theodore Lerner and the four other family members who are principal owners furnish one of the league's lowest payrolls despite a new, taxpayer financed stadium. The Nationals lost 102 games last year, the most in the majors. The team's goodwill is also evaporating as GM Jim Bowden resigned in March amidst a federal investigation involving the skimming of signing bonuses given to Latin prospects and a scandal involving the team signing a player who lied about his age.
Revenues and operating income are for 2008 season and are net of revenue sharing.

Split definitions and foot-notes between the two posts.

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 2:16 PM | Report abuse

For the Nationals, revenue shared among all teams plummeted from 170 million to $86 million between 2008 and 2009. They aren't a team fans around the world are interested in seeing ... even for Philly fans.

This is directly attributable to ownership.

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 2:17 PM | Report abuse

Now the question is: Have they done enough under Mike Rizzo to improve things in 2010? If they had signed someone like John Lackey the answer might be a resounding yes.

As Baltova1 points out, signing a plethora of arms, even if they are mostly rehabbing/recovering from arm surgeries, could lead to success? A strategy that a Jim Bowden might pursue with his much smaller staff as opposed to the high end staff that MIke Rizzo has assembled?

But is it how you replenish a starved scarecrow of a farm system? Three years may not be enough time ... but is there forward progress? According to Forbes ownership has taken a giant step backward?

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 2:24 PM | Report abuse


http://www.forbes.com/lists/2008/33/biz_baseball08_Washington-Nationals_337401.html
http://www.forbes.com/lists/2009/33/baseball-values-09_Washington-Nationals_337401.html

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 2:28 PM | Report abuse

On Bruney: "But he has pitched just 76 games (73-1/3 innings) in that span, and has been on the disabled list three times."

Another rehabbing/recovering pitcher?

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 2:32 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, top of the line free agents like Lackey don't always want to come to teams like the Nationals that are at the bottom of the standings every year. Sometimes even mediocre free agents, such as Jon Garland don't want to play here, no matter how much money the Nats offer (2 years/$15 million) and choose to play elsewhere for less money (San Diego, 1 year/$5 million)

We can scream about how the Lerners are cheap and don't spend enough money on the team, but the fact of the matter is that until the Nats climb out of the cellar, it will be hard to lure top tier free agents to DC.

Posted by: SpashCity | February 17, 2010 2:34 PM | Report abuse

"but the fact of the matter is that until the Nats climb out of the cellar, it will be hard to lure top tier free agents to DC."

That clearly has to factor into things ... but in the case of Aroldis Chapman and Aaron Crow who are both top 20 prospects? That wasn't as much a factor as the bottom line figure. If they are going to use the "small market" model they will have to overpay to get top prospects into their farm systems.

Because they have made a shambles of a great setup (Noting the rather large increase in value of both the stadium and gate receipts between 2008 and 2009 in spite of the record!) the Lerners will have to way overpay top free agents if they are going to use the medium to large market model. Because of their record as owners! They were doing better when MLB owned the team!

If they are going to mix the two paradigms like Boston they are going to have to pony up some money (some sort of investment capital) to give to Rizzo and his high end staff (without any stipulations or control) to use to fix what is now broken to the best of that staff's ability. In other words: stop behaving like Dan Snyder.


Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 2:45 PM | Report abuse

From Johnny G's 2010 MLB Power Rankings


25. Washington Nationals- This team is going to cause some issues for playoff contenders late in the season. With several more additions to this lineup, their offense is almost frightening. Ryan Zimmerman is coming off a phenomenal defensive and offensive season at the hot corner, Adam Dunn had the best season of his career, add in Elijah Dukes, Ivan Rodriguez, Cristian Guzman, and Nyjer Morgan and you have a legit lineup. Jason Marquis comes via free agency to anchor the staff along with John Lannan, Jordan Zimmerman, and Scott Olsen. Watch out for this team down the stretch.
Questions: Can the Nats muster enough pitching to compete?
Where is Stephen Strasburg?

Posted by: nattydread1 | February 17, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

"anchor the staff along with John Lannan, Jordan Zimmerman, and Scott Olsen. Watch out for this team down the stretch."

@nattydread1:

Clearly Johnny G does not appear a source to take seriously? Olsen and JZimm are coming off of surgery. Olsen's the far more dreaded shoulder. JZiimm is 2011 and we must all hope he is close to the same pitcher.

So, now you are down to one only starting pitcher: John Lannan.

This is probably why Rizzo and staff and combing every corner of baseball for arms, willing to risk guys reasonably close to the end of recovery/rehab. See Baltova1's previous comment.

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

@peri --

please stop with the Chapman stuff. The Nats made what they believed was a top offer. They offered what they thought it would take to land him and by most accounts it would have been enough, except the Reds put in a higher bid. Simple as that. I have yet to see any reports stating that Chapman would have signed if the Nats would have matched or bested the Reds offer.

Posted by: erocks33 | February 17, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

Too bad for Bruney. Hope he has some incentive clauses in his contract.

Posted by: Juan-John1 | February 17, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

When 8 of 11 comments belong to the same guy including 6 in a row, its time to consider changing the medication....

Posted by: natbiscuits | February 17, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

New Nats payroll figure:

-----> $65,299,000 <-----

And the spreadsheet for arguing:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tg_E5YCPAAwfuXAqhyfOxrg&single=true&gid=2&output=html

Posted by: comish4lif | February 17, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

"When 8 of 11 comments belong to the same guy including 6 in a row, its time to consider changing the medication...."

@natbiscuits: Okay 'mr. oblio', what does it say about someone who has to spend the time counting comments? What does that have to do with the topic at hand: Nats baseball?

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

15 posts, and 9 of them by one commenter. This place is turning into an echo chamber.

Posted by: AtomicOvermind | February 17, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Poopy McPoop was more interesting.

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Adderall, anyone?

Posted by: BinM | February 17, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Usenet rules for posting:
In summary:

- Use your head. Rudeness is almost never worth the effort. Honestly. Don't say something in a post or email you wouldn't say to a person's face.
- Email instead of post whenever possible with material not intended for everyone on the list.
- Be aware there are a lot of jerks with lots of free time on the and they don't necessarily have to be confronted personally by you each and every time they display their jerkiness.

Posted by: lerici | February 17, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Periculum is Latin for "one who cuts and pastes obsessively to compensate for a complete lack of insight and original thought", right? Sure seems like it.

Posted by: nunof1 | February 17, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Periculum is Latin for "one who cuts and pastes obsessively to compensate for a complete lack of insight and original thought", right? Sure seems like it.

Posted by: nunof1 | February 17, 2010 4:18 PM
_____________________________________________________________
Nunof1,

I have to give credit were credit is due. That was LOL at work funny.

Posted by: Section505203 | February 17, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

"Periculum is Latin for "one who cuts and pastes obsessively to compensate for a complete lack of insight and original thought", right? Sure seems like it.

Posted by: nunof1 | February 17, 2010"

I've read many times here that numof1 is a "jerk with lots of free time and someone you don't necessarily have to be confront personally each and every time they display their jerkiness"

Posted by: periculum | February 17, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

Getting a little fiesty in here.

So, is Duncan gonna make the Opening Day roster? I bet yes.

Posted by: dfh21 | February 17, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Ron Villone will be back in Nats camp and at age 40. Classic Rock RULES the Ipods of Nats Town.

Posted by: dfh21 | February 17, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Okay, dfh, I'll take that action.

Let's make it interesting, shall we? If Duncan makes the roster, I promise to root for him to play well. Deal?

Oh, I'll make my own bet (we can chain them or something): Detwiler makes the rotation and pitches to an average-or-better ERA.

Posted by: Scooter_ | February 17, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

If the Nats are good this year the Lerners are cheap crowd will quickly become the Lerners are savvy crowd for not wasting money.

Oh and if Wang cant come back from injury than EVERYONE on this board will vilify Rizzo for making a Jimbo-like signing. And if Crow or Chapman develop into elite pitchers the I told you so crowd will never let it go.

My goals for the Nats this year:
1. .500 or better
2. better record than the Mets

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | February 17, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

periculum, what would your life be like without this blog's comments section?

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | February 17, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

My goals for the Nats this year:
1. .500 or better
2. better record than the Mets

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | February 17, 2010 4:51 PM | Report abuse

I will gladly take 50% on your goals.

Posted by: MBUSA | February 17, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

nati....I don't think medication is the answer, sadly!!

Posted by: cokedispatch | February 17, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

"If the Nats are good this year the Lerners are cheap crowd will quickly become the Lerners are savvy crowd for not wasting money."

Nope. There are two groups of people that will never ever change their tune, no matter what happens. The Lerners are Cheap crowd and Guzman haters.

Posted by: nunof1 | February 17, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

If the Nats are good this year the Lerners are cheap crowd will quickly become the Lerners are savvy crowd for not wasting money.

Posted by: peteywheatstraw | February 17, 2010 4:51 PM
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I'd bet more on "They were lucky" or "If they'd actually SPENT money we'd have won the division."

Posted by: OldDude | February 17, 2010 4:58 PM | Report abuse

I guess I need my Razadyne.

I don't recall Chris Duncan getting an invite to Spring Training?

Posted by: lerici | February 17, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

And if the Nats lose 90 games this year - will the rest of you come over to the "Nats are cheap" camp?

Posted by: comish4lif | February 17, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Storen has just as much potential to be an impact player with this franchise as Crow does. At some point you need to get over not signing him and realize what it cost us was one year of a guy starting for teams like Potomac.

As for Chapman, if he does become an impact player all the voices who said we underbid will be drowned out by the fans of every other team who will say the same thing, and if he turn out to be nothing in 3 years no one will remember the fuss over him. For the haters its win/win.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | February 17, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

comish4lif, it would depend on how we get there. Injuries can turn any rotation into a mess and with little (if any) room to spare with ours injuries to Lannan or Marquis would easily spell 90 L's. With nothing but low impact FA signings left (I assume) let's see how they handle Dunn; that's the next big test.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | February 17, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Duncan indeed will be at ST.

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100125&content_id=7966708&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

The Lerners are beyond doubt cheap guys, they just are. Not frugal, not shrewd, they are cheap.

Posted by: dfh21 | February 17, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

It is becoming increasingly funny to see the fan "defenders" of the owners of this team--an organization that has lost 205 games over the past 2 seasons--self-righteously mock those fans who think the team should be held to a higher standard.

And guys, if you think that the whole cheap issue is about MLB performance, you're badly mistaken. The Lerners professed that they wanted to build an elite organization from the ground up, and do it largely through drafting, international signings, and development. Their cheapness to date has caused them to badly fail on that front so far, regardless of what happens in DC this season.

Funny how it seems like the "Lerners are cheap" crowd actually cares more about "The Plan" than do the Kool Aid drinkers.

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | February 17, 2010 5:11 PM | Report abuse

Okay, so is Ladson right or is NFA? The spreadsheet there lists Duncan without an invite. I don't see James?

I'll take some Razadyne now.

Posted by: lerici | February 17, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

new post. Villone is back ...

Posted by: erocks33 | February 17, 2010 5:15 PM | Report abuse

"Funny how it seems like the "Lerners are cheap" crowd actually cares more about "The Plan" than do the Kool Aid drinkers."

Posted by: CoverageisLacking | February 17, 2010 5:11 PM

_____________________________________________________________
Yeah, how 'bout that.

I could handle the payroll being low if they had built "an elite organization from the ground up, and do it largely through drafting, international signings, and development."

But sadly, this has not happened yet.

Posted by: Section505203 | February 17, 2010 5:21 PM | Report abuse

In order for the Nats to have success, they sure as Hell will have to be very lucky.

Capps is coming off a vey bad yet healthy season, which saw him get non-tendered. Bruney throws hard but has little idea where it is going. Guz's glove has some holes. Morgan has never played a full season in the bigs. Too many guys to mention are coming back from injury. Kennedy is a year removed from being out of the game and played little 2B last year. Pudge is old and coming off a less than brilliant 2009 campaign. Dukes is a crap shoot. Willingham has a basal wood back and a clank glove to boot. Estes and Guardado are freaking Este and Guardado. Etc. Dunn, Zim and Marquis can be reasonably relied upon to perform well, not sure anyone else really can be. So they have added ONE realiable solid performer this off season. Every other add is a prayer for health and/or return to form and/or hope to blossom.

No matter how you slice it, if the Nats turn out good it will be due to a LOT of luck.

Posted by: dfh21 | February 17, 2010 5:28 PM | Report abuse

@lerici: His mlb.com page has him as a NRI, and he's on the NRI list at washington.nationals.mlb.com/team/roster_nri.jsp?c_id=was

I'd say he has an invite.

Posted by: BinM | February 17, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Why would he not have an ivite?

Posted by: dfh21 | February 17, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

Geez.
FWIW, Danger Man gets my vote for Comeback Poster of the Year in 2009.
Yes, it's troubling when I (increasingly often) agree with him, but that's my problem.

Just sayin.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | February 17, 2010 7:14 PM | Report abuse

It seems to me that the Nationals feel as if they are good enough now to not pay the unofficial "last place fine" in contracts. Bruney can stew about it, or he can play and show he deserves more money.

To peteywheatstraw:

My goal this year for the Nats is .450 ball and to beat the Mets. Beating the Mets is the most important thing. I love to listen to the Mets fans whine on WFAN!

Posted by: GABinOdenton | February 18, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

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