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Today's lineups in Orlando

The Nationals are playing a pair of split-squad games today, one in Orlando, where Jim Riggleman, Jason Marquis and I are, and one in Port St. Lucie, where Craig Stammen will take the mound. From the Wide World of Sports outside Disneyworld:

Nationals
1. Nyjer Morgan, CF
2. Ian Desmond, SS
3. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
4. Mike Morse, 1B
5. Willie Harris, RF
6. Eric Bruntlett, 2B
7. Wil Nieves, C
8. Roger Bernadina, LF
9. Jason Marquis, SP

Braves
1. Melky Cabrera, CF
2. Martin Prado, 2B
3. Chipper Jones, 3B
4. Brian McCann, C
5. Troy Glaus, 1B
6. Jason Heyward, RF
7. Omar Infante, SS
8. Matt Diaz, LF
9. Jair Jurrjens, SP

By Adam Kilgore  |  March 27, 2010; 10:47 AM ET
 
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Assuming Guzman is the starting shortstop, the average age of seven of the starting eight on the field is almost 33. (this year)That must say something about a team that's in the process of building...scary!

Posted by: jcampbell1 | March 27, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

It might be best to look at Randy Knorr's team in Harrisburg where the organization appears to be collecting its top prospects this year? One wonders if we might be seeing Derrick Norris jump past adavanced A and right up to Harrisburg with Knorr. But even there the age is relativley high ... an influx of Destin Hood and Eury Perez to Harrisburg would be a big boost to the organization.

Mike Rizzo said it could take 5 to 6 years to rebuild ... have to assume the clock didn't start until he got the job last year.

Posted by: periculum | March 27, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

"...have to assume the clock didn't start until he got the job last year."

Kasten resets the clock every year, the Nats have been two years away from contending since the day he came to town.

As for the average age of the team, one thing Chico did well was call out Acta and Kasten when they described the Nats as a young team while fielding a middle-aged line-up.

Posted by: PowerBoater69 | March 27, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

Please show us something today, Marquis.

+1/2St.

Posted by: kevincostello | March 27, 2010 12:02 PM | Report abuse

jcampbell, stats can say what you want them to say.

The average age of 7 of the starting 8 is almost 33?
Kinda makes them seem old-ish

How about looking at it this way?
Only 2 of the starting 8 are older than 32.
Kinda makes them seem not old at all.

Or this?
6 of the starting 8 are in their prime years, between the ages of 25 and 32.

And not scary at all.


Posted by: Sunderland | March 27, 2010 12:05 PM | Report abuse

Yes and Kasten inferred that a huge International signing was imminent ... any day now. All we saw was Rafael Martin from the Mexican league.

Rizzo has been pretty straight and honest about most things. I guess one can trust him at this point. By stating that it would take 5 to 6 years wasn't he in essence saying that ownership was not going to buy into expensive free agents? (Unless of course they are Texiera caliber at a young age.) That they will be worst than Marge Schott whom we heard once surprised JIm Bowden by saying, "go get me a David Cone honey".

That's what I got from that statement.

Posted by: periculum | March 27, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

What's up everyone? Yes it has been awhile,i've been doing a study on the US federal prison system that hopefully will get printed in a major publication and shed some light on what i consider a major problem in this country; crime and punishment, now back to baseball i've been trying to keep up with my Nat's, first off i was a little surprised at Duke's being cut not to mention the the team started off spring training(getting hammered and the pitching staff getting torched almost every start.) I'm not sure this team sans Strasberg is any better than last years bunch and what about Maxwell? he's not hitting and having to start Harris in RF say's a lot about our farm system, our pitching staff "might" be better than last year's staff but i'm not convinced. I watched the O's the other night they have a potent lineup and they in my opinion seem light years ahead of us in terms of the race for repectibility. I am in DC finishing up my study and will be flying back to ATL. this week i've been gone since mid January and i've been to California,Texas,Oaklahoma,Florida,West Va. and Pennsylvania,in addition to the infamous DC jail.The good news; my daughter got a 4 yr scholarship to Skidmore College in Saratoga,NY of course my wife and i were floored at the news don't get me wrong Sydney is a great student but we had no idea, we are very proud parents anyway enough about us. So what do you think about our prospect's are of staying out of the NL cellar?

Posted by: dargregmag | March 27, 2010 12:09 PM | Report abuse

"So what do you think about our prospect's are of staying out of the NL cellar?"

The glass is at least half full here's why.

April rotation: Lannan, Marquis, Stammen, Mock, Hernandez [Martin / Batista ] Olsen is a rehab project}

Projected rotation in July/August time frame:
Strasburg, Lannan, Thompson, Detwiler, perhaps JZiimm, less likely: Wang, then Mock/Stammen/Martin, Marquis.

Given the number of young relief arms Rizzo picked up the bullpen should also be younger at that point as well. Have to expect at least 3 of just the lefties to rise to the top (English). And then there's Storen.

Spare arms are stacked pretty deep this year.

Is it enough to get out of the cellar. I suspect it will be. Is it enough to make .500? Highly unlikely but possible.

Posted by: periculum | March 27, 2010 12:16 PM | Report abuse

So, sorry to keep beating the shortstop horse, but isn't the worst possible outcome to limp through this season with Guzman, bid him farewell, and then NOT KNOW if Ian Desmond is your longterm solution at short? I think that's a point Boz has made a couple of times: use this year to figure out of Desmond can play, and if you conclude he cannot, then you know you need to do something about shortstop next season. I just see a huge risk of the team effectively losing another year at middle infield because they don't find out what they have.

Desmond's stats last year:

AA (42 games): .306/.372/.494
AAA (55 games): .354/.428/.461
MLB (21 games): .280/.401/.561

Don't you need to find out if you really do, in fact, have in place a young, cost-controlled, athletic, 800+ OPS shortstop BEFORE we go into the offseason?

Posted by: Section220 | March 27, 2010 12:42 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Stammen is going to face the Mets starting lineup, with decent support:

Taveras-CF
Guzman-SS
Kennedy-2B
Dunn-1B
Willingham-LF
Rodriguez-CA
Gonzalez-3B
Maxwell-RF
Stammen-P

Posted by: BinM | March 27, 2010 12:57 PM | Report abuse

"and then NOT KNOW if Ian Desmond is your longterm solution at short? I think that's a point Boz has made a couple of times: use this year to figure out of Desmond can play"

Espinosa is in Harrisburg with Randy Knorr and most of the other top prospects. Should find out about him this year as well. It will be a bell weather year for shortstop.

Posted by: periculum | March 27, 2010 1:01 PM | Report abuse

All week Direct TV's viewing guide has been showing the Nats-Mets game will be shown on the MLB channel (213).
But now it says the game is blacked out in this area. Damn.

Posted by: 1stBaseCoach | March 27, 2010 1:12 PM | Report abuse

The Nats at Mets game is on MLB TV right now

Posted by: CBinDC | March 27, 2010 1:21 PM | Report abuse

And on MASN our occupying network it's

College Lacrosse HOBART at FAIRFIELD

Thank you Bud Selig

Posted by: CBinDC | March 27, 2010 1:25 PM | Report abuse

Just a gut feeling here, but Desmond will not be a long term solution at SS defensively. He's athletic, has speed & range and had an apparent breakthrough as a hitter in 2009; But he has never, at any level, shown that he can play SS consistently.

Bill James recently stated that he believes a player peaks defensively at age 25. Desmond turns 25 this year - In 2009, he was charged with 34 errors between stops in HAR/SYR/WSH in 119GP, with the bulk of those games at SS. While he's not the absolute authority on things like this, it's at least food for thought.

Posted by: BinM | March 27, 2010 1:26 PM | Report abuse

"I just see a huge risk of the team effectively losing another year at middle infield because they don't find out what they have."

You can throw in 1B, the entire outfield, starting pitching, and the bullpen.

Another year? We're looking at mediocrity here, as far a the eye can see.

Posted by: JohnRDC | March 27, 2010 1:45 PM | Report abuse

John: Ask for a refill - Your glass is clearly half-empty.

Posted by: BinM | March 27, 2010 1:47 PM | Report abuse

POI, you'll recall they *did* contend the first year.
And not being allowed Sept. callups may not have cost them a wildcard spot, or even 4th place necessarily, but it had to have cost at least one game, and a "winning season" (FWIW).
Not that we're bitter.
And "a bellwether is any entity in a given arena that serves to create or influence trends or to presage future happenings."
Whether or not Del rings a bell with anyone.
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Kasten resets the clock every year, the Nats have been two years away from contending since the day he came to town.
Posted by: PowerBoater69 | March 27, 2010 11:59 AM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | March 27, 2010 1:49 PM | Report abuse

That's not quite fair--they know what they have in center--a Gold Glove candidate who is probably in the second half of his career, but it could be a good second half; in left, a better than average hitter in a position you tend to put defensive liabilities if need be, and he's not killing them there; and starting pitching is Lannan, waiting for Strasburg, and fill-ins who are better than last years' staff, with a few longshots on the DL or minors.
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"I just see a huge risk of the team effectively losing another year at middle infield because they don't find out what they have."

You can throw in 1B, the entire outfield, starting pitching, and the bullpen.

Another year? We're looking at mediocrity here, as far a the eye can see.

Posted by: JohnRDC | March 27, 2010 1:45 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | March 27, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I'll give you 1st and the bullpen.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | March 27, 2010 2:00 PM | Report abuse

Takahashi got slapped around a little in the 3rd - Dbl, HPB, RBI Dbl(Dunn), 2RBI Dbl (Willingham); 4-1 Nats.

Posted by: BinM | March 27, 2010 2:13 PM | Report abuse

Mediocrity would be an enormous improvement. "Mediocre in '11" would be a good marketing slogan.

Posted by: markfromark | March 27, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

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