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Game 4 discussion thread -- Nationals at Mets

The Fight For Fourth begins tonight, and we'll also be testing out a new NJ experiment. I want to just have this post sitting here during the game for readers to have at it in the comments section.

Because of my duties for the birdcage liner and because I assume the majoity of readers are following along on using a different medium, I won't be providing much, if any, play-by-play. If there is mid-game injury news, I'll post it here. If I spot a trend I think is worth sharing, I'll post it here. But, really, this is about identifying a definitive space for you meet and chat about the game. Let's see how it works.

Some possible topics for discussion:

Scott Olsen allowed four runs on eight hits in 6 1/3 innings this afternoon in Syracuse; should he have been pitching here instead of Garrett Mock?

Nyjer Morgan informs me the silver Elvis whig given to the player of the game after wins is not on the premises -- the Nationals have deciced to not bring it on the road. Should they throw that sucker in a duffel bag and bring it with them?

All yours. First pitch at 7:10.

UPDATE, 7:33: Garrett Mock's start portends badly for his plan to be more aggressive this season. His first inning took 17 minutes, and he threw 29 pitches, 14 strikes. The quinessetinal at-bat came against David Wright, whom Mock started with two strikes and then walked on the next four pitches. Still, he allowed no runs.

UPDATE, 7:54: Ian Desmond got eaten up by a bad hop on a rocket from Mike Pelfrey. Trying to make a backand play, Desmond let the ball deflect off his wrist and into left field. After the play, Desmond shook out his glovehand as if testing the wrist. The hit was ruled a singe, and it didn't come back to haunt the Nationals. Garrett Mock allowed a home run to Jeff Francouer, but he needed 14 pitches to escape the inning. 2-1, Nats.

UPDATE, 8:16: At this moment, Ian Desmond has 10 singles and 16 career extra-base hits, including all three of his hits this year. If only 91 at-bats qualified you for the all-time career slugging percentage title, Desmond's .604 would place him eighth, right between Hank Greenberg (.605) and Manny Ramirez. (.590).

By Adam Kilgore  |  April 9, 2010; 7:05 PM ET
 
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Comments

did anyone see NatsXtra before the game? Ray Knight said Mock would start 30 games and win 15? That, and everything else he said and did (including never knowing which camera is on) proves he is one of the worst tv guys i have ever seen. what a moron

Posted by: rpneuman | April 9, 2010 7:26 PM | Report abuse

Is Mock ever going to figure it out?

He says he just needs to throw the ball over the plate then he proceeds to go 3 balls on every hitter.

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | April 9, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

I told you all that Mock would pitch himself out of a job. With this pitch count, he won't make it past the fourth inning.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 9, 2010 7:31 PM | Report abuse

The guy frustrates me every time I see him pitch. Is he going to settle down?

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | April 9, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Ian Desmond's ROY campaign continues!

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 9, 2010 7:42 PM | Report abuse

Yes, they should bring the hat on the road. The more wear it gets, the better!

Posted by: nervousnatsfan | April 9, 2010 7:44 PM | Report abuse

Garrett Mock's campaign to Syracuse continues!

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 9, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

can they just let desmond start every day at short and not give him every 2 days off?

Posted by: nami322 | April 9, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse

Nice pitch, Meat - Way to cover a lead.

Posted by: BinM | April 9, 2010 7:48 PM | Report abuse

Unfortunately, Harrisburg doesn't bring us great pitching news today, either. Aaron Thompson gave up 5 runs in only 3 2/3 innings before being pulled. The Senators are down 5-1.

+1/2St.

Posted by: kevincostello | April 9, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Atta boy, Meat - Attack those hitters; 27 strikes, 24 balls (nibble, nibble).

Posted by: BinM | April 9, 2010 8:11 PM | Report abuse

if he can throw strikes he could be good. that curve is nasty.

Posted by: nami322 | April 9, 2010 8:14 PM | Report abuse

That strikeout against Bay was hysterical; Bay was walking to the dugout with his head down before the ball hit Pudge's glove.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 9, 2010 8:16 PM | Report abuse

Ugh, how do you give up a homer to Rod Barajas? You suck, Mock.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 9, 2010 8:37 PM | Report abuse

That's the way meat - just pitch well enough to lose. With Batista up in the bullpen, I've heard enough. G'night Gracie.

Posted by: BinM | April 9, 2010 8:42 PM | Report abuse

Mock Sucks. THROW A STRIKE. At least Riggleman has the guts to take him out and hopefully send him all the way down to 'Cuse.

Posted by: mjwies11 | April 9, 2010 8:47 PM | Report abuse

I don't know what you people are complaining about. Mock's ERA is 5.40. That's best on the staff so far.

Posted by: baltova1 | April 9, 2010 8:59 PM | Report abuse

Mock's ERA is 5.40. That's best on the staff so far.

Among starters, of course.

Posted by: baltova1 | April 9, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

This is why you have to question the braintrust of this franchise(Riggleman/Rizzo) just watching Mock struggle and then walk weak azz hitters and give up a h/r to a punch&judy hitter i mean what da hell?

Posted by: dargregmag | April 9, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Garrett Mock: He's Daniel Cabrera, without the talent. Same command, though.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | April 9, 2010 9:11 PM | Report abuse

Are you serious? 2 homers to freaking Barajas? This is such a winnable game...

Posted by: amorris525 | April 9, 2010 9:19 PM | Report abuse

What was with everyone clamoring for that loser Mike Morse? Should have let Guzman pinch hit there... Morse looks completely lost every AB he gets.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | April 9, 2010 9:30 PM | Report abuse

Ron Darling has turned into a pretty nice color guy. When he was on Nats broadcasts, he never seemed comfortable. No such problem in NY.

Posted by: JohninMpls | April 9, 2010 9:37 PM | Report abuse

Mock and Bergie are going to love SYR this time of year.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | April 9, 2010 9:40 PM | Report abuse

Pretty good bullpen... GAME OVER.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | April 9, 2010 9:47 PM | Report abuse

Well...that got ugly quick.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | April 9, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

tyler walker sucks.

Posted by: nami322 | April 9, 2010 9:48 PM | Report abuse

1/2 St,

Thanks for the updates on the minor league pitchers. It's becoming pretty clear that with one obvious exception there's not a whole lot of difference between the 15 starters on our major league, AAA, and AA clubs. I mean, how much worse could our Harrisburg rotation have done than our so-called major league starters so far? Rizzo should be like Lincoln with his generals--keep throwing people out there until he finds someone who's not intimidated by Lee, er the Phils. And if Scotty Olsen can do the job, he should find out what brand of cigs he smokes and send cartons to the other pitchers.

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | April 9, 2010 9:56 PM | Report abuse

What a waste Mock is. Syracuse is lovely this time of year.

NatsFaninKC

Posted by: mastroj | April 9, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

Call me a soothsayer.

So now we know the rotation is legit, as in legitimately awful.

The bullpen is pretty bad too.

And that hole in RF is glaring.

... Going to be a long season. Is there a consolation prize for losing another 100 games?

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 9, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

So does anybody else have concerns about our pitching?

Man I am not looking forward to this brutal April Sched. the Nats have.

Well here is hoping to a Livan Renaissance tomorrow...

@kilgore

This thread thing is a sweet idea.

Posted by: Cartaldo | April 9, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Capitol Will:

Only if you pick the day of the 100th loss...

www.gnatsthree-peat.webs.com

Posted by: randy_boyd | April 9, 2010 10:25 PM | Report abuse

Mock's ERA is 5.40. That's best on the staff so far.

Among starters, of course.
Posted by: baltova1 | April 9, 2010 9:03 PM

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Yeah, that's a great stat against one of the worst lineups in the NL. Mock was pitching soft to weak bats; letting Cora walk was inexcusable.

At least Lannan and Marquis (and Stammen) had to deal with the Phillies lineup.

This was a game that a MEDIOCRE pitcher could have won, but Mock lost it.

He should be sent packing to Syracuse, along with half the bullpen. Call up Storen.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 9, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

The Nats are really a poorly constructed team. That is all on Rizzo and the Lerners. What a joke about the great off-season.
The Os on the other hand are a good team with a really lousy closer. That's a shame.

Posted by: dovelevine | April 9, 2010 10:26 PM | Report abuse

@dove

its still only 4 games into the season....

Posted by: Cartaldo | April 9, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

Ugh. That was just like last year.

Posted by: samantha7 | April 9, 2010 10:29 PM | Report abuse

Our hitting is not getting it done either. We have got to score more thean 2 runs against guys like Pelfry.

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | April 9, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Thanks for link @randy_body! I look forward to winning whatever the Lerners give out at the gate on "Phillies Fan Appreciation Night".

I know it's only four games in, and the rotation will probably be completely overhauled in 60 days, but that's 60 days of losing.

And that's not fun for anyone.

... unless you're the visiting team.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 9, 2010 10:38 PM | Report abuse

Give Mock a chance. Seriously, he actually has good movement on his pitches. His location will improve with experience. I think he will be a decent pitcher in due time.

Posted by: Tom8 | April 9, 2010 11:16 PM | Report abuse

Nats are in last place BUT only two behind! We are still in it, folks. The games are still meaningful.

Posted by: EdDC | April 9, 2010 11:48 PM | Report abuse

Give Mock a chance. Seriously, he actually has good movement on his pitches. His location will improve with experience. I think he will be a decent pitcher in due time.

Posted by: Tom8

Yeah, some of his pitches moved 390 feet tonight.

As for his location, SYR would be fine as far as I'm concern.

Posted by: Sunshine_Bobby_Carpenter_Is_Too_Pessimistic_For_Me | April 10, 2010 12:47 AM | Report abuse

"He's Daniel Cabrera, without the talent. Same command, though''

Great line, Sunshine.

@JohninMlps:

I actually thought Darling was pretty good in '05, even though I knew he was just auditioning. If he sounds good now, aside Gary Cohen -- who in my view is the best there is -- he must be good.

Posted by: nats24 | April 10, 2010 2:12 AM | Report abuse

I think Darling got more comfortable as the season went on in 2005, but he didn't do a good enough job of filling the dead air.

To be fair, he was probably given too much dead air.

The Mets TV broadcast is a good one.

Posted by: JohninMpls | April 10, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

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