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Game 7 discussion thread: Nationals at Phillies

The introductions have finished at opening day for Citizen's Bank Ballpark. The Phillies fans, in my estimation, were actually less rude to Nationals players and staff than they were at Nationals Park. The Nationals are trying to get above .500 in a rematch from the season's second game between Cole Hamels and Jason Marquis. I'll try to provide a few more updates than usual today, assuming people are stuck at work. Otherwise, discuss the game in the comments space below.

3:26: Cristian Guzman doubled with two outs in the first, but Hamels struck out Adam Dunn on a low breaking ball to end the inning. 0-0, after half an inning. Oh, also, Jimmy Rollins is a scratch and Juan Castro will leadoff and leadoff for the Phillies. That helped Jason Marquis have a 1-2-3 first, which he really needed after his brutal start in his first outing as a National.

3:30: What a start to the season for Josh Willingham. He came in batting .421, and he blasted the third pitch of the second inning, a 2-0 hanger from Hamels, over the left field fence to give the Nationals 1-0 lead.

3:42: Jason Marquis keeps rolling in the second. Three more up, three more down. Ryan Howard did hit a rocket, but right at Willingham in left. Adam Dunn made a terrific backhand scoop on a throw by Adam Kennedy, who made an outstanding stop on a ball down the third base line.

3:57: The Nationals still lead, 1-0, after three. Adam Dunn made another nice play to end the inning. Carlos Ruiz had just walked, and Hamels hit a grounder down the first base line. Dunn scooped the ball, stepped on first, spun and fired a strike to Ian Desmond, who made the tag.

Also: The Phillies announced Rollis's injury. He strained a calf during warmups today.

4:10: The Nats took a 2-0 lead when Ivan Rodriguez smoked a single to center with two outs, scoring Guzman from second. Hamels seemed to be squirming out of a jam when he struck out Willingham looking and Desmond swinging, but Rodriguez cashed in on getting the inning's first two batters on base. Adam Kennedy walked on eight pitches, and the Nats have the bases loaded with Marquis coming to the plate.

4:13: Marquis delivers. He served an opposite-field double just over Placido Polanco's glove into left, scoring two. The Nats lead 4-0. Philly fans booing Hamels.

4:18: Placido Polanco in the fourth smacked Philly's first hit, a grounder up the middle for a single with one out.

4:27: Ryan Howard continued his demolition of Nats pitching. Chase Utley walked to put men on first and second, and Howard followed with an RBI single to left. 4-1 Nets, men on first and third, one out. Jim Riggleman got tossed -- seemingly for arguining balls and strikes, but not sure. John McLaren will take over as manager.

4:31: The Phillies added one more run on a fielder's choice by Jayson Werth. The Nats lead, 4-2.

4:47: Phillies rally in the fourth. The Nats trail, 5-4, after a two-RBI single by Placido Polanco. Marquis fell into trouble when Rodriguez elected to throw to second on Hamels's sac bunt and threw the ball into centerfield. Rather than a man on second with two outs, the Phillies had two on with one out.

4:49: The Phillies take complete control with a home run by Chase Utley off the right field foul pole. The Nats trail, 7-4. Marquis is done and Jesse English is on to face Ryan Howard with the bases and one out.

By Adam Kilgore  |  April 12, 2010; 3:05 PM ET
 
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Comments

Rollins scratched by the Phillies

Posted by: Kev29 | April 12, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

The hammer is on fire!

Posted by: amorris525 | April 12, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

HAMMA TIME!!!!!!

Posted by: dargregmag | April 12, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Any info on the whereabouts of ROllins? He was in the initial lineup? Did he get hurt pregame or was he just late?

Posted by: comish4lif | April 12, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

HAMMER!

And no official word on Rollins. Charlie and Dave seem as confused as the rest of us on the late scratch.

Posted by: Kev29 | April 12, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

"which he really after his brutal start"

Let's all one word out of our in-game posts.

Posted by: BobLHead | April 12, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Wassup with ADunn? No HRs in Spring Training. No power so far this season and come to think of it, not much in September of 2009.

Should we be concerned?

Posted by: dmacman88 | April 12, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

commish:

No news; You must have him in a roto/fantasy league, otherwise you wouldn't give a crap about a PHI player.

Posted by: BinM | April 12, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

I don't think Dunn is, uh, done. He's what, 30-years-old? That's not usually when ballplayers fall of the face of the Earth.

The Hammer is awesome so far. I might I have to pick him up off waivers.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Where are all the folks who wanted to trade Willingham before the season started and instead put Willie Harris or J-Max out there??

Posted by: markfd | April 12, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Charlie Slowes just announced no news on the JRoll scratch.

Posted by: dmacman88 | April 12, 2010 3:41 PM | Report abuse

No news; You must have him in a roto/fantasy league, otherwise you wouldn't give a crap about a PHI player.

Posted by: BinM | April 12, 2010 3:36 PM

I don't really mind why Rollins is out of the line-up, but I'm happy to take any help we can get this week.

Posted by: Kev29 | April 12, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

Marquis - 27 pitches through 2IP. Has'nt challenged anyone yet, living on the outside corners - not a good sign.

Posted by: BinM | April 12, 2010 3:43 PM | Report abuse

I always thought Willingham was a solid LF, maybe he's a late bloomer ala Jayson Werth.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Bin-

Marquis challenging howard, utley, etc. is a bad idea.

Posted by: nami322 | April 12, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Philly TV guys said Rollins strained his right calf in warm ups.

Posted by: amorris525 | April 12, 2010 3:50 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Jimmy will end up on the DL like Morse. ;-)

Posted by: dmacman88 | April 12, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

Marquis is pitching well. He's getting some unfavorable calls and hits the brakes once he gets ahead of the hitters. He needs to keep challenging them even if the count is 0-2.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

I didn't know calf strains were contagious . . .

Posted by: slewis1 | April 12, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

A lot of hard hit balls right at Nats players, but it's still much better than his last outing.

Posted by: amorris525 | April 12, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

i think marquis is doing fine. the phillies do have the best lineup in the nl. i also think that adam kennedy is going to end up being the back-up.

Posted by: nami322 | April 12, 2010 4:04 PM | Report abuse

AK

Nationas players?????

Posted by: hansenjo | April 12, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Haha, we should let Marquis bat cleanup!

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Marquis!! That's how you help yourself baby!

LETS GOOOO

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | April 12, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

MARQUIS!

Posted by: Kev29 | April 12, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

Gotta love Marquis. He has a higher batting average now than 5 other Nats in the starting lineup and more RBIs than Adam Dunn has this season!

Posted by: dmacman88 | April 12, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Hey - this game could change in a few Phillies swings, but I'm enjoying the heck out of it right now!

Posted by: Kev29 | April 12, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

What a nice inning...Nats played great defense and then had some very good at-bats. Tony Plush was a little unlucky with the excuse me bunt.

Posted by: boricuabopper | April 12, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Its obvious that Marquis doesn't want to lose his place in the batting order to that Strasburg kid!

Posted by: TimDz | April 12, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

Alright Jason - pitch like you hit!

Posted by: lowcountry | April 12, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

SUCK ON IT AND LIKE IT PHILLY FANS!!!

Posted by: dargregmag | April 12, 2010 4:16 PM | Report abuse

Team is playing really well right now. Hope we can keep it up for the tough ten-game homestand coming up.

This game is far from over, though.

http://baseball.realgm.com/

Posted by: CJArlington | April 12, 2010 4:19 PM | Report abuse

Could this BE any more beautiful?

"4:13: Marquis delivers. He served an opposite-field double just over Placido Polanco's glove into left, scoring two. The Nats lead 4-0. Philly fans booing Hamels"

Posted by: NatsNut | April 12, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Nice call from 2B ther Mr. West. - Must have x-ray vision

Posted by: lowcountry | April 12, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

Could this BE any more beautiful?

"4:13: Marquis delivers. He served an opposite-field double just over Placido Polanco's glove into left, scoring two. The Nats lead 4-0. Philly fans booing Hamels"

Posted by: NatsNut | April 12, 2010 4:21 PM | Report abuse

Ump West is on a power trip. Nobody likes an ump that wants to be part of the story.

Posted by: dmacman88 | April 12, 2010 4:22 PM | Report abuse

Dave Jaegler is none too pleased with West behind the plate. Come on Jason, make it irrelevant.

Posted by: Kev29 | April 12, 2010 4:23 PM | Report abuse

Sorry, make that Schreiber calling balls and strikes today.

Posted by: Kev29 | April 12, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

RIGGLES TOSSED!

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 4:25 PM | Report abuse

Riggs Ejected! Yay!

Posted by: comish4lif | April 12, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Jim Riggleman. Glad he sticks up for his players!

Posted by: dmacman88 | April 12, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Go get him Riggs

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | April 12, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Did Riggleman come out and argue something or did he say some magic words from the dugout?

Posted by: TimDz | April 12, 2010 4:29 PM | Report abuse

He was out on the mound talking with Marquis for a while and the home plate ump came up to interrupt. At that point, I'm guessing Riggleman said "get your fat $%! back behind the plate" he was immediately ejected and then he gave him hell.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | April 12, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I hope Rigs hitting the showers fires up these guys. Nice to see a manager stick up for the players.

Posted by: mastroj | April 12, 2010 4:31 PM | Report abuse

I hope there were a lot of "magic words" out of Rigg's mouth there. Sounds like Marquis really got screwed by a crew that already seem to have their heads up their a$$es this Spring.

Posted by: Kev29 | April 12, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Nice to finally have a MGR back in the dugout that will bark at umpires & risk getting tossed, rather than having his coaches take the lead.

Posted by: BinM | April 12, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

This is a big inning for Marquis he needs to quiet the rally and sit them down 1-2-3.

I'm wondering with Hamels at 90+ pitches if they will pinch hit for him this inning, even though he just cruised there in the top half.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | April 12, 2010 4:37 PM | Report abuse

This officiating crew is awful. Why should Riggleman get ejected because you can't do your job?

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 4:38 PM | Report abuse

bad decision by pudge

Posted by: nami322 | April 12, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

That Pudge play just cost the Nats. Unreal.

Posted by: dmacman88 | April 12, 2010 4:43 PM | Report abuse

"Where are all the folks who wanted to trade Willingham before the season started and instead put Willie Harris or J-Max out there??"

Hi, there, it's me, one of the people who wanted to trade Willingham. I'm so glad we didn't, because now we can trade him in May and get so much more in exchange for him.

Posted by: Section506 | April 12, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

should have taken the out. now this inning could get ugly.

Posted by: nami322 | April 12, 2010 4:44 PM | Report abuse

Score should be 4-0 still. The umps have taken over the game.

Pudge needs to think about playing the percentages instead of being a hero.

Posted by: dmacman88 | April 12, 2010 4:45 PM | Report abuse

CapitolWill:

Because you point it out to them - Arguing a ball-strike call is an automatic ejection.

Posted by: BinM | April 12, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Can someone please explain the umps for someone who can't watch the game? Thanks.

Posted by: Section506 | April 12, 2010 4:46 PM | Report abuse

Oh, no. What just happened?

Posted by: PattyinSJ | April 12, 2010 4:47 PM | Report abuse

Take the easy out next time , Pudge

Posted by: lowcountry | April 12, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Marquis can't pitch anywhere, and now it's become batting practice.

... Well, it was a good game. Let's see if we can bounce back tomorrow.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 4:49 PM | Report abuse

Quick summary. Marquis is not getting a strike call on his sinker (kzone on TV clearly shows it in the zone). Missed 2 straight strikeouts on Utley and Howard. Riggs comes out to "talk to marquis" but he was only out there to yell at the ump and within 3 words he was ejected.

Then pudge makes a horrible decision to throw to second on a sac bunt. Desmond gets cleated by ruiz. Marquis had no choice but to throw the ball down the heart of the plate. Leading to a 5 run inning.

Thats about it.

Posted by: machencm | April 12, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

506, the home plate umpire has been doing a lousy job of calling low pitches. Marquis had a couple of pitches called balls that were strikes according to the Pitch Track on TV. That kept the fourth inning going and helped the Phillies get another chance to get some runs that inning. Marquis then got the ball up more in the fifth and got clobbered. The question is, did he stop throwing the ball at the knees because he wasn't getting calls or did he just lose it?

Posted by: baltova1 | April 12, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

The umpires were not calling any pitches on the edge of the strike zone. Ivan complained then Riggs came out, complained and got tossed.

Jason had to put the ball over the middle of the plate and got crushed.

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | April 12, 2010 4:52 PM | Report abuse

Almost feels like the umps are trying to help the Phillies win their home opener or something....

Posted by: Juan-John1 | April 12, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Oh, and Joe West, who apparently thinks he's the Assistant Commissioner, called Marquis for going to his mouth while on the rubber (you can do it on the mound now, but not from the rubber). They called a ball which made it 2-1 to Utley. Then, on 3-1, the home plate umpire blew one and Utley walked.

Joe West is a big, fat joke.

Posted by: baltova1 | April 12, 2010 4:54 PM | Report abuse

Aha. Thanks machencm, baltova, and Vze, and whoever else is typing up the scenario now.

Posted by: Section506 | April 12, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

And there it is. The big 5 run inning from our free agent "work horse." Can Livo pitch every day?

Posted by: mastroj | April 12, 2010 4:57 PM | Report abuse

Baltova, but its an embarrassment for baseball games to last so long! Lets call every crap rule that comes to our mind... that should speed things up.

Posted by: machencm | April 12, 2010 5:00 PM | Report abuse

Placido Polanco = new Nats killer

Posted by: NatsNut | April 12, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Ummm ... well at least Jesse English pitched well again. We're not out of this yet, but we need some baserunners. Patience, fellas.

Posted by: BobLHead | April 12, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Baltova, but its an embarrassment for baseball games to last so long! Lets call every crap rule that comes to our mind... that should speed things up.

Posted by: machencm | April 12, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Game Day does not give the nuances of called balls/strikes. Glad for the info. But pitchers must make good adjustments for an ump's strike zone. If Marquis does not get it together after in two more starts he should be done. As for Dunn, I belive he got off to a slow start last year.

Sec 204 Row H Seat 7

Posted by: adhardwick | April 12, 2010 5:04 PM | Report abuse

Alberto Gonzalez is the best pinch hitter we've got? Great.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | April 12, 2010 5:05 PM | Report abuse

Classic example of the impact of bad umpiring. Marquis isn't getting the low strike, so needs to bring the pitch up in the zone, bringing it up from "hit me, I'm a grounder," to "smack me, I'm a homer."

As if the Phillies needed more help.

For those inclined to kill Marquis, I'm going with "not his fault" on this inning.

Posted by: Highway295Revisited | April 12, 2010 5:06 PM | Report abuse

"If Marquis does not get it together after in two more starts he should be done."

Wow, that would be a quick hook for a 10-year vet who just signed a big free agent contract, don't you think?

On the other hand, maybe Rizzo will "get tired of watching him" or something like that.

Posted by: BobLHead | April 12, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, I can't fault Marquis for this outing. He was clearly squeezed until the point of no return.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

By the way, if the officiating crew was picking on Marquis, then he should have been pulled when we had the lead.

I think a lot of had to do with the fact that Marquis came off the mound to speak the ump. He wasn't going to get any calls then.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

Plus Utley's homer was a cheap shot down the short RF line - it hit the screen. Marquis seemed to be mor eunlucky than bad today. Furthermore, 4 runs rarely beats the Phillies, especially at home.

Posted by: lowcountry | April 12, 2010 5:13 PM | Report abuse

another bad call...morgan was safe

Posted by: nami322 | April 12, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

Morgan is visibly upset. This team is done, they're just frustrated at this point.

I can't blame 'em.

... Hopefully Riggles will get them to settle down tomorrow and regain some of that energy they came in with.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

I got you, machencm. They've decided a good way to speed up the game is to call our runners out when they're safe...

Don't give up yet, the Phillies bullpen is shaky this year.

Posted by: baltova1 | April 12, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Dunn's going deep, right here.

Posted by: baltova1 | April 12, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Let's get some runs!

Posted by: lowcountry | April 12, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Never mind. Baez chickened out.

Posted by: baltova1 | April 12, 2010 5:35 PM | Report abuse

Nationals pitching - the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: SavedByZero | April 12, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Marquis's line:
IP H R ER BB SO
4.1 6 7 6 2 1

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It won't be lack of Zim, it'll probably be Marquis keeping it close, or not. (Just for fun, I'll put his O/U on runs allowed at 5.5, innings at 4.5, Ks 1.5, walks 5.5, and the bullpen's runs allowed 3.5. Desmond's errors 1.5, and I'll take the unders.)

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | April 12, 2010 12:41 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | April 12, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

BTW, remember last year's games in New York where the umps screwed up the home run calls on replay? That was a moment where Manny should have gotten tossed just to support his team and to "work the refs." He didn't. Riggleman did today and I think that's a good thing.

Posted by: baltova1 | April 12, 2010 5:38 PM | Report abuse

We have three guys hitting well everyone else is hitting .150. We need more consistency.

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | April 12, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

In hindsight maybe Marquis should have been pulled for English to face Utley(lefty/lefty) but that's water under the anacostia, we need to try and win the remaining two games and return home with a modest win streak and on a upbeat note like the way Riggs "manned up" for the team today their hasn't been a consistent strike zone since Hank Aaron played. A little pissed about this one today.

Posted by: dargregmag | April 12, 2010 5:50 PM | Report abuse

The problem I have with Marquis is that I can't tell the difference between his fastball and his changeup -- and that's when you really get hurt. There's no way he can get anybody out unless he sticks with his breaking stuff and his sinkers. Those are the only two pitches he has.

Posted by: Brue | April 12, 2010 6:03 PM | Report abuse

Marquis de Suck.

Posted by: Kenbeatrizz | April 12, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

tough loss. methinks the umpiring crew wanted to be able to enjoy a brew out on the town following the first game of the series. Call me a cynic - but I'm betting they drink for free tonight at any south Philly pub.

I'm really starting to hate these guys . . .

Posted by: lowcountry | April 12, 2010 6:05 PM | Report abuse

Well they certainly went gently into that good ninth. At least Riggleman went down raging.

Posted by: BobLHead | April 12, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

"We have three guys hitting well everyone else is hitting .150. We need more consistency."

Don't get too discouraged yet, though you're right most of the guys are not seeing the ball well.

Morgan, for example, is 5 for 27, which averages to .185, but if he were to go 2 for 3 tomorrow - something Nyjer is easily capable of right now - that would jump him up to 7 for 30, which is .233. He's certainly not on a hot streak, but we can't really say he's on a cold streak either.

Mid-season we would say, "5 for his last 27, hmm, he must have been pitched tough last series."

Posted by: Section506 | April 12, 2010 6:17 PM | Report abuse

Brue, you're right. I haven't seen him pitch enough in the past to know if he's lost something on his fastball, but if he doesn't have great control, his mistakes get clobbered.

Posted by: baltova1 | April 12, 2010 6:18 PM | Report abuse

Don't get too discouraged yet....

Posted by: Section506 | April 12, 2010 6:17 PM |
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Exactly. April is for hoping. It's a long season, and there will plenty of time to be discouraged about the Nats.

Same old Nats.

Posted by: fischy | April 12, 2010 6:26 PM | Report abuse

OK, you're a cynic.
I bet they get booed anyway.
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Call me a cynic - but I'm betting they drink for free tonight at any south Philly pub.
Posted by: lowcountry | April 12, 2010 6:05 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | April 12, 2010 6:32 PM | Report abuse

In fact, I bet the bartender gets booed.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | April 12, 2010 6:33 PM | Report abuse

You're right, sofa. What was I thinking?

Posted by: lowcountry | April 12, 2010 6:39 PM | Report abuse

record after 7 games;

2009: 0-7
2010: 3-4

I guess we can call that hope...

Posted by: TimDz | April 12, 2010 6:49 PM | Report abuse

I got the feeing that he was a tad upset when he returned to the dugout and seemed to mouth "bull[not Durham]" into the camera.

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Morgan is visibly upset. This team is done, they're just frustrated at this point.

I can't blame 'em.

... Hopefully Riggles will get them to settle down tomorrow and regain some of that energy they came in with.

Posted by: CapitolWill | April 12, 2010 5:23 PM

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 12, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

And, yes, I'll take the current record over the same time last year.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 12, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

And, yes, I'll take the current record over the same time last year. I think we all know what the Astros fans have been hearing lately.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 12, 2010 6:58 PM | Report abuse

Oh, Durham! Not sure how I did that...

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | April 12, 2010 6:59 PM | Report abuse

TimDz,

I call it a major improvement...which makes me hopeful.

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | April 12, 2010 7:02 PM | Report abuse

That game was a bummer

Posted by: Cartaldo | April 12, 2010 7:38 PM | Report abuse

Huge bummer of a game. I enjoyed the first part, though.

There really were some awful calls against the Nats, and while that is also part of the game, we are not a good enough team to overcome those at this point. Ah well, maybe next time.

Posted by: NatsFly | April 12, 2010 8:34 PM | Report abuse

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