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Jason Marquis has rough first start with Nationals in 8-4 loss to Phillies

Republished from print editions of The Post:

Jason Marquis fits the same profile of all the other players the Washington Nationals spent their winter stockpiling. They wanted established veterans, reliable warhorses who could, in General Manager Mike Rizzo's term, "change a culture."

Marquis, for example, could help anchor their pitching staff. No longer would they need worry about a No. 2 starter who, say, hits the showers without recording an out past the fourth inning.

Even with an overhauled roster, the first two games of the Nationals' season have only blurred the line between where last season ended and this one began. In an 8-4 loss to the Philadelphia Phillies on Wednesday night at Nationals Park, Marquis fizzled in his maiden outing with the Nationals, doomed by the bugaboos that plagued the team's staff last season.

Change may yet come; no one delivers verdicts three days into a baseball season. On Thursday, while the Nationals try to keep from being swept out of Nationals Park, that will have to be their salvation.

"If you think the start of the year is two games," second baseman Adam Kennedy said, "it's not."

If it was, the Nationals would have a problem. They added Marquis to stabilize the top of their starting rotation, to add legitimacy to a staff long carried by callow starters. In his first try, Marquis delivered a dispiriting and familiar performance. In four-plus innings, he Marquis allowed six runs on eight hits and three walks, including the two-run home run by Ryan Howard that ended his outing and, basically, decided the game before it was halfway over.

Control problems sunk Marquis's outing early. He walked three batters and hit another before much of the late-arriving crowd had settled into their seats.

In the first inning, Marquis walked three batters, hit another and unleashed a 59-foot sinker that skipped past catcher Iván Rodríguez and allowed Plácido Polanco to scurry home. Marquis fell behind five of the seven batters he faced in the inning. The Phillies led, 2-0, by the time Marquis escaped.

"Obviously, the outcome wasn't what I wanted," Marquis said. "I just didn't do my job tonight."

For the second straight game, the Nationals' starter made moot much else. John Lannan and Marquis, expected to give the team a competitive top to the rotation, both handed Washington deficits too large to recover from. They combined to allow 11 earned runs, 15 hits and 6 walks in 7 2/3 innings.

And, also for the second straight game, Howard delivered the most lethal blow. By the fifth inning, Marquis had found his control. After the first inning, he threw a first-pitch strike to 13 of the next 14 batters he faced and walked no one.

Then, after a double by Polanco and an RBI single by Chase Utley to open the fifth, Howard dug into the batter's box. Marquis threw Howard a ball. Then he threw him batting practice, a sinker that stayed up. Howard mashed Marquis's mistake over the fence in center field. The Nationals trailed 6-3, and Manager Jim Riggleman yanked Marquis for Tyler Walker.

Afterward, Marquis felt he had missed an opportunity against Howard. Before Howard launched the home run, he had been 2 for 12 against Marquis in his career. In his first two at-bats, Howard grounded into a double play and struck out. Howard, though, is not a great hitter because he covers the plate. He is a great hitter because he crushes mistakes.

"He does have holes in his swing," Marquis said. "You just got to make pitches. That's really what it comes down to. If you go look at the tape, a lot of the pitches he hits are mistakes. When I made pitches tonight, I got him out. I left one ball up, and that's what he thrives on. There's a reason why he strikes out 200 times. It's because he has holes in his swing. If you make your pitches, he's going to be an out."

Before Howard's home run, the Nationals stayed in the game thanks to Ian Desmond. He mashed his first home run of the year -- "a bad cutter," Desmond said -- off of Cole Hamels in the third. In the next inning, Desmond smoked an RBI double.

In his first season as the starting shortstop, Desmond mixed some lows with his highs. He struck out twice and made an error, booting a ground ball for the second consecutive night. Desmond struggled with defense his entire minor league career, but he shrugged off Wednesday's error.

"That happens," Desmond said. "You're trying to make plays for your team. Bound to happen."

The Nationals responded to their 0-2 start with similar nonchalance. Before the game, Riggleman said he considered the start to a season about 30 or 35 games. Two games, no matter how familiar, don't qualify in the Nationals' minds.

"It's Game 1," Marquis said. "Not that it's okay. But it's a long season."

By Adam Kilgore  |  April 8, 2010; 1:26 AM ET
 
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Let me see. First it was "not to worry, it's only spring training." Now it's "still early, it's a long season.

By mid-summer it will be, "the best is in the minor leagues and is yet to come."

What a pitiful product ! What pitiful marketing--filling the stand with fans from the opposing team. The Phillies Fans performance will inspire fans of all Nats opponents to show up at Nationals Park and make noise---and diminish the collective experience of anyone who dares root for their home team.

Stupid, Stupid, Stupid !

But we knew that from the day this franchise was awarded to this ownership group.

Posted by: steve29 | April 8, 2010 2:35 AM | Report abuse

Two down, at least 98 more to come.

Posted by: WJStephens | April 8, 2010 3:38 AM | Report abuse

Maybe in two or three years when these Phillie players are past their prime, we'll be able to beat them, but right now forget it....

Posted by: bromisky | April 8, 2010 5:15 AM | Report abuse

Why is everyone so glum? The Nats are having a great season!!!...Oh, I'm sorry - everyone here must be talking about the real team. I was playing MLB 10 on the PS3.

Posted by: hofbrauhausde | April 8, 2010 5:27 AM | Report abuse

Has a MLB team ever lost 100+ games three years in a row?

Posted by: laud001 | April 8, 2010 5:36 AM | Report abuse

An error a game at shortstop. Bound to happen. Simple as that.

Posted by: markfromark | April 8, 2010 6:33 AM | Report abuse

Don't you love it when the players can't admit they plain stink!But then, I wouldn't expect them to say that. But, we know not to believe anything a ball player says. Neither Marquis or Lannan deserve to be in the big leagues. Stammen will lose today but won't give up as many runs. Wow, that's consoling. I believe Stammen is the best pitcher in the weak rotation. Friday is a win in NY and they will be 1-5 when they leave the Big Apple. Cripes, these pitchers just SU#K! Why would I say that? 19 runs in 2 games. Starters get the crap knocked out of them. And, the bull pen does it's best to keep up! go nats.(I don't use capital letters anymore...or an exclaimation mark)

Posted by: Pete433 | April 8, 2010 6:56 AM | Report abuse

I think the concept of having your two starting pitchers not being able to even have the ability to miss bats is proving a bogus plan.

Stammen at least can miss a few Phillies' bats and thus has a better chance than Lannan and Marquis. I am expecting a more respectable performance tonight.

Posted by: driley | April 8, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

And so it goes…

11 stranded runners…

Most of the coach-pitch Gnats'“hurlers” displaying ERA’s north of 12… Two "marquis" starters lit up like the 4th of July...

Lumpy Dunn still can’t hit a curveball…

However, despite Ian Desmond’s second error, he did show a little flash of brilliance with the bat as did Guzzie – way to go legging out that triple late in the game.

At the end of the day, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

When Bob Carpenter and Rob Dribble began their broadcast with a mini diatribe (almost an apologetic foreshadowing) about the first 40 games and the number of opponents over .500, playoff contenders etc… you have to figure it’s gonna be a longgggg summer.

Two down… Ninety-eight to go…

www.gnatsthree-peat.com

Posted by: randy_boyd | April 8, 2010 7:18 AM | Report abuse

Desmond is on a pace for 162 errors in as many games (obviously he won't play 'em all).

On the other hand, I liked the way he handled double plays last night. Very good ball handling and release. Particularly the second one in which Chase Utley was coming straight at him, spikes high. Utley takes no prisoners but Desmond stood his ground.

Bottom line: there's hope at SS.

Posted by: JohnRDC | April 8, 2010 7:32 AM | Report abuse

On RF situation, if Boswell's column from the other day is to be believed, Nats' brass thought that J Maxwell would emerge to take job. According to this view, his dismal spring was a huge disappointment but they expect him to return--guess when, around June--and claim the job for good. This could explain the quickness with which they dispatched Dukes and their subsequent lack of interest in finding someone else.

The question is, how realistic is this assessment? "Everyone says" Rizzo is a great evaluator of talent, he's the anti-Bowden, etc. Let's see how this one plays out.

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | April 8, 2010 7:53 AM | Report abuse

There are a couple of reasons why I'm worried.

One is that it seems we are not fielding the best starting rotation we have available. Scott Olsen had a better Spring, particularly at the end, than any Nat except Strasburg, and Strasburg isn't in the rotation, either. There is this feeling that our current starters, with the exception of Lannan, are just placeholders.

But Marquis has shown me nothing, not in Spring and certainly not last night, and that is a cause for concern. He seems unable to find the plate unless he aims the ball, and that's how gophers are born.

But the early schedule is unusually cruel to us. We have to play last year's (nd the year before's) pennant winner in six of our first nine games. That's not a very good way for a young, last-place team to gain confidence. Nobody else in baseball has so brutal a start to their season as our Nats.

Posted by: FergusonFoont | April 8, 2010 7:54 AM | Report abuse

"Has a MLB team ever lost 100+ games three years in a row?"

Oh yes. The Philadelphia A's, the St. Louis Browns, the Boston Braves (one stread of 4 in a row, another of 3), the Pittsburgh Pirates, the New York Mets (their first 4 seasons they lost at least 109).

Obviously almost all of those happened a very long time ago since 3 of the teams no longer exist. The Pirates string was in the early 50s, and the Mets streak ended 45 years ago. I doubt anyone has done it since. In this era of free-agency, it's damn near impossible to not significantly improve your ballclub by simply shelling out a few hefty contracts. You need a shameless ownership really dedicated to wringing the last nickel of profit out of a team to have 3 consecutive triple digit loss seasons days. Sadly, just those conditions seem to exist in this situation.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 8:02 AM | Report abuse

Sigh.

So are we all in our thousands going to bus up to Philly to cheer on our boys????

Speaking of a bus, why the elimination of the Nats Express, does anyone know? I'm glad I didn't get season tickets because no bus means no Saturday evening games for me.

Still can go on Sundays... And I will. The food is good at the park, staff is friendly, and the odds are what, 1 in 3, that we might win a game...

Posted by: Nats_Lady | April 8, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

Don't get mad at Strasburg not being in lineup. Baseball is a business and it make business sense to not bring him up till later.

And if we keep losing, another #1 pick :)

Posted by: fearturtle44 | April 8, 2010 8:04 AM | Report abuse

"We have to play last year's (nd the year before's) pennant winner in six of our first nine games. That's not a very good way for a young, last-place team to gain confidence."

Dear FF, check out the Nats roster. As I have pointed out many times, this is not a young ball club. Last night's starting lineup included only 3 players who were born after 1980. The catcher and second baseman are 38 and 34 years old. In all, the Nats used 16 players last night. Eight of them are already in their 30s, and a ninth (Nyjer Morgan) will turn 30 on July 2.

Actually, w/r/t position players, this is probably one of the oldest starting lineups in baseball.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 8:14 AM | Report abuse

When Bob Carpenter and Rob Dribble began their broadcast with a mini diatribe

Posted by: randy_boyd

I vowed to keep the sound off this year. So far it's worked. My favorite is 'I hope the ump gives both pitchers that call'. Yeah, well, if the Nats pitcher had better command, he might get some calls, that's just the way it works. Looks to me like Marquis' arm doesn't have that pop in it anymore, and he's stuck with cutting or sinking and nibbling now. If the umps force him to throw strikes, he's toast. And this didn't start in spring training - it's just like Capps - they had plenty of warning that there was something wrong with his stuff the second half of last season. The guy's barely over a .500 pitcher when everything goes right. I mean, when Marquis himself admits that he's had to re-learn to pitch the last 18 months because his velocity has deserted him, that should be some kind of clue.

Posted by: Brue | April 8, 2010 8:16 AM | Report abuse

Natsville cats, cool as country water.

No worries, things will heat up by game 41. In the meantime, maybe Randy can start a pool on when Ian will boot his 50th grounder.

Posted by: howjensen | April 8, 2010 8:21 AM | Report abuse

The question is, how realistic is this assessment? "Everyone says" Rizzo is a great evaluator of talent, he's the anti-Bowden, etc. Let's see how this one plays out.

Posted by: CapPeterson1

They'll stick Guzman in right, because he's the best hitter. Either that or they get a stop-gap veteran because they haven't drafted enough blue-chip hitters, they've used it all on pitching. Although, they know they'll lose this year, so there's no reason to pay money for Jermaine Dye.

Posted by: Brue | April 8, 2010 8:24 AM | Report abuse

The best High School team in Major League baseball!

Unfortunately, they aren't the best High School team in the nation, or even the local area.

At least the expectations for these guys are low. I think fans would be happy to see a season where the L's were under 100. They don't even have to get to .500.

Of course, with no pitching and no offense, it doesn't matter who we have on the field.

Look on the bright side, with the stadium as empty as it is, everyone will get a t-shirt from the air cannons and the cheerleaders! Cause it looks like the "promotions" are coming up way short compared to other MLB teams.

Posted by: waterloom | April 8, 2010 8:34 AM | Report abuse

"Obviously almost all of those happened a very long time ago since 3 of the teams no longer exist. The Pirates string was in the early 50s, and the Mets streak ended 45 years ago. I doubt anyone has done it since."

KC Royals 2004 58-104, 2005 56-106, 2006 62-100. How soon they forget.

Posted by: nunof1 | April 8, 2010 8:41 AM | Report abuse

Starters combined go barely 7 innings, 19 Filthy runs, 16 walks, 20+ hits, what else can we say. Oh yeah, I'm sure Phil-d-Wood will say its only 2 loses.

Come on folks with all the gnashing of teeth and wasted cyber keystrokes for the past 2 days, close to 30K show up on a Wednesday night in April. Gotta love StanK and Mini-Me sitting in the front row just wondering what time the Brinks truck will show up to take away the latest haul! Its called fraud, LernerStanks and you are the perps of all of this!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | April 8, 2010 8:45 AM | Report abuse

"Desmond is on a pace for 162 errors in as many games[.]. . .On the other hand, I liked the way he handled double plays last night.. . . Bottom line: there's hope at SS."

Not if he doesn't cut down on the errors, fast.

Guzman's not Luis Aparicio, but he was a good shortstop on some good teams in Minnesota. He can hit too. You might as well put him there again, and have Desmond learn how to field the position in AAA.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 8:47 AM | Report abuse

"KC Royals 2004 58-104, 2005 56-106, 2006 62-100. How soon they forget."

nunof1:

I stand corrected!

You're right, I had forgotten the Royals. Hasn't everyone? Hard to believe they used to be a shining example of how to run a small-market franchise.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 8:51 AM | Report abuse

One thing I have noticed since 2005 is Washington starting pitching always starts slow the first few innings before stabilizing in the 3rd or 4th inning.

It seems the SP staff is never ready to start the game in the first inning.

That sounds like a coaching flaw to me.

Posted by: clandestinetomcat | April 8, 2010 9:01 AM | Report abuse

Why in the world didn't the Nats keep Strasburg on the roster and let him have a go at it against Philly? If the kid is as good as they say, it would have been great to see how he would fair against Phillies line up. Because honestly, the two starters this year aren't the best this club has. If they are the Nats are really in trouble this season and would be lucky to win 60 games. I predicted a 500 record, but am now thinking other wise. Long season still in front of us though.

Posted by: hoganincharge | April 8, 2010 9:05 AM | Report abuse

Brue, good point about Marquis and his second half performance last year. That made his signing questionable (I think they're really reaching with Capps).

But, why not sign Dye? He wouldn't be an improvement defensively (apparently he's terrible now in the field) but offensively he would. Do you think they can make it work with the combo deal they have now or some other low-cost pickup?

Posted by: baltova1 | April 8, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

The inferiority complex that the Nats players have shows in this article. Jason Marquis is garbage, and clearly has sour grapes after Howard took him yard over right-center. Ian Desmond has some pop, but is a defensive liability, and still wouldn't crack the starting lineup on most MLB clubs.

The Nots will be fortunate to match last year's win total (2) against the Phillies this season.

Posted by: jworrell03 | April 8, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

"But, why not sign Dye? He wouldn't be an improvement defensively (apparently he's terrible now in the field) but offensively he would."

Dye is 36 years old and is so bad in the outfield he turns the artificial turf brown.

This team already has too many players no one else wants or needs. It's also already too old, and Dye would make it even older.

The best time to sign and discard players is the off-season. Barring some incredibly brilliant trade, what you have now is what you're stuck with. This is going to be another losing season, quite likely another 110+ loss season, and that's assuming a senior citizen like Pudge Rodriguez doesn't break down (and please note that his backup will be 33 in late September).

Management's already written the season off (that's one reason they were so anxious to get those big tour groups from Philly). You might as well too.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 9:43 AM | Report abuse

Correction: I meant to type "another 100+ loss season" in my last comment.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 9:46 AM | Report abuse

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Posted by: ufiodsafsajk | April 8, 2010 9:47 AM | Report abuse

Hey, Jason Marquis- there's also a reason Ryan Howard was ROY, MVP, a World Series Champion, and hits more than 40 home runs a year. You're a donkey journeyman who got absolutely destroyed last night, so ease up on the critiques.

Posted by: queequeg1 | April 8, 2010 9:59 AM | Report abuse

Everyone is so negative, Craig Stammen will shut them dizzown tonight to avoid the sweep....

Posted by: Cartaldo | April 8, 2010 10:26 AM | Report abuse

Relax people. Look around the league. You might notice that we're not the only 0-2 team. We're 0-2 because we lost to the defending (and likely to repeat) NL champions. The Phils are going to pound a lot of people this year.

Our birdy friends to the north are 0-2 against a good, but not great, Tampa Bay team. Better yet, LAD is 0-2 having lost to the Pirates. If we were 0-2 having played the Pirates to begin the year, then I'd be worried.

It's freakin' April 8th, for Pete's sake. I was at both games and, if you know anything about baseball, you know that this team is nothing like the past couple of years. Sure, there's still holes and they need to settle down a bit and get comfortable playing together, but this year will be much more fun to watch than the past few. I guarantee it. And, no, I'm not an employee or owner of the team.

Posted by: thelonghaul | April 8, 2010 10:30 AM | Report abuse

"It's freakin' April 8th, for Pete's sake. I was at both games and, if you know anything about baseball, you know that this team is nothing like the past couple of years."

First off, this franchise has been lousy the previous four years. A team that's won more often than lost for several years coming into a season has the right to ask fans to be patient. This one does not.

Second of all, one look at the team shows that it's exactly like the lousy squads that have stunk up the league the last few years. The roster is full of players no one else wants, mostly marginal older players who've spent most of their careers in the minors or on the bench, combined with younger ones other teams have given up on who no longer can be considered legitimate prospects. This team is old. The current 40 man roster includes only 7 players under the age of 25 (2 of them have birthdays during the season) and 11 who'll be 30 by the All-Star break (and all of them are currently on the Nats roster or the DL). There is virutally no one in the pipeline who'll be taking over and doing a better job.

If that's your idea of a fun ballclub, you have a very odd notion of what's fun.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 10:55 AM | Report abuse

What saddens me is not the losses, but the slump-shouldered, downcast way they've lost; it's not the walks but when they occur - like last night, rewarding the offense by promptly giving up the lead. Just like spring training. Just like the last two years. Even a bunch of losers should be able to take at least one out of three. We'll see tonight.

Posted by: WileyHall3rd | April 8, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

I think the editors left out the last part of Marquis quote disrespecting one of the games best power hitters where he said

"Unfortunately, I'm just not good enough of a pitcher to make those quality pitches. Thats why I've been on four teams in the past five years".

Posted by: ChiffonDon | April 8, 2010 11:09 AM | Report abuse

"First off, this franchise has been lousy the previous four years. A team that's won more often than lost for several years coming into a season has the right to ask fans to be patient. This one does not."

Rendering judgment after 2 games against the Phillies is not a lack of patience. It's ignorance.

Posted by: thelonghaul | April 8, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I watched nearly every game last year on cable. In Richmond this year, we seem to be having video problems with the broadcast - we keep getting "no signal", "digital problems", "video problems", and it happens about every 30 seconds. Considering the way the pitching is going, it doesn't appear that I am missing much...you can't beat anybody when you give up the runs the Nationals are giving.

Posted by: outrbnksm | April 8, 2010 11:21 AM | Report abuse

thelonghaul:

"Rendering judgment after 2 games against the Phillies is not a lack of patience. It's ignorance."

If, as you say, you honestly think this squad is any different from the miserable Nats teams of the last few seasons, you're the one displaying an ignorance so profound it cannot be adequately described.

These last two games show the team may have changed players, but its essential rottenness is the same. You want to talk about the long haul? This is game 326 of a three year span in which the team will end up losing at least 300 times in 486 games.

As I said before, if you consider that fun, you've a bizarre notion of a good time, but then as far as you're concerned the best is yet to come, I suppose.


Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 11:52 AM | Report abuse

Wow.
Lannan doesn't "deserve to be in the big leagues". That's over the top harsh. He was a solid starting pitcher last year, would have made any team's starting rotation.

"Rendering judgment after 2 games against the Phillies is not a lack of patience. It's ignorance."

It's not a judgment after 2 games.
It's a judgment after a 100 loss season, an unproductive off-season, another 100 loss season, an underwhelming effort in the draft, an analysis of the position-player potential we have at AA and AAA, a lackluster spring, and 2 games against the Phillies.

This team is below average in way too many areas.

As for Desmond and his errors, ease up.
He's not hitting 81 homers, he's also not making 162 errors. He'll boot some more for sure, but he'll also make plays Guzman couldn't. He's the best we have for shortstop, and there a reasonable chance he could be an MLB shortstop for a long time. He deserves some time before any evaluation.


Posted by: Sunderland | April 8, 2010 12:23 PM | Report abuse

Fairfax6, at the end of the day you may be proven right and I may be proven wrong (although I strongly doubt it). But to extrapolate from 2 games what will happen over the next 160 is not only ignorant, it's needlessly negative. That's true for any team, much less a team that has things like Strasburg, Storen and a developing Desmond to look forward to, not to mention what's here already with guys like Zimm and Morgan. Does anyone really believe that Marquis will visit upon us the horrors that we saw last year with DCab? No, this team is not the same.

Over these past 5 years, no matter how bad we've been in each of them, the saddest day of the year for me always has been the last game of the season, knowing that it will be another 6 months until the sights and sounds of baseball in DC return.

So, buck up. C'mon, it's baseball. Love it and enjoy it.

Posted by: thelonghaul | April 8, 2010 12:28 PM | Report abuse

I would not make any judgments based on two games.

But neither would I ignore them when they are consistent with what we saw in spring training and when they appear to expose weaknesses the team was known to have even before spring training began.

Color me worried for the short-term, guardedly optimistic for a longer-term that includes Detwiler, Wang, and, of course, Strasburg.

PS -- I'd give Desmond a full season to prove himself at SS. I think he's worth the investment. If it doesn't work out, there's always RF.

Posted by: Meridian1 | April 8, 2010 12:52 PM | Report abuse

thelonghaul:

If we were talking about, say, the Cubs, the Red Sox, the Cards, or either of New York's teams in a similar situation, I could believe there were loyal fans as ridiculously optimistic as you claim to be. But we're talking about a team with no roots in its home market, owned by people who obviously want only to wring as much cash out of the fans as they can get. Therefore I can only conclude that you are completely dishonest. As to the subject of ignorance, I'll let my comments stand against yours for others to judge which of us is the more knowlegdeable.

This team is lousy. It has been lousy for a long time. It has been especially wretched for the past two seasons, and was hopelessly bad during spring training. It's roster is composed almost exclusively of never-weres and never-will-bes no other team cares to have under contract. And the number of bona fide prospects at the highest levels of the farm system is scandalously low.

Refute that if you can. I notice you haven't tried, doubtless because you know you can't.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 1:22 PM | Report abuse

Fairfax6, ease up on the ad hominem and get another team to root for if you're that upset. You can catch all of their games on TV for a few extra bucks.

Meanwhile, I'm off to see my Nats and have fun (because I can). Frankly, I could care less what the Philly pond scum sitting around me say or do (since I'm not bringing my kids today).

Posted by: thelonghaul | April 8, 2010 1:36 PM | Report abuse

thelonghaul:

This last is very funny considering you started with the insults, and now throw out a very childish and gratuitous bit of abuse towards the people from Philly who've turned the Anacostia into the Schuykill these last few days (and BTW, it was Nats management that rolled out the welcome wagon for them, take it up with them).

You're the one refusing to argue on the merits, so I'll just say enjoy the season, you're going to get plenty of the abuse you desire from your beloved ballclub. For my own part, I'm not going to be a fan of a team that is so openly contemptuous of the people who follow it. I will say that in your case, that contempt is justified. That glass you insist is half-full contains chlorine bleach, and that's nothing to be happy about. :-)

Posted by: Fairfax6 | April 8, 2010 1:58 PM | Report abuse

don't sweat it guys. this is the first time the phills won 2 to start the season since 2003. a message to nats fans: start going to games now. suffer in person. it'll be sweeter when you win. letting your opener turn in to a phills home game is pathetic. i know you don't care about baseball in dc but guess what: they gave you a team other city's would have killed for. go to the games. if you don't keep your remarks about fightins fans to yourselves: we're real fans.

Posted by: mfslavin | April 8, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

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