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Game 40 discussion thread: Nationals at Cardinals

How much significance should we assign to this game? The Nationals will fly back to Washington afterward, and they're eager to get this nine-game, three-city, one-doubleheader beast over with. Any win is nice, and they all count the same in the standings. But tonight seems packed with more meaning than usual.

If the Nationals win, they will snap a four-game losing streak. If they win, they head home 4-5 on the trip, which just feels and looks a lot better than 3-6. Tonight will mark the end of the first quarter of the season, one of the year's milestones. Lose, and they sink back to .500 even. Win, and they can say they're a winning team with three-fourths of the year left. That's all symbolic, of course, but could it mean something?

It's a big start for John Lannan. He spent four innings in Colorado alleviating concern about his left elbow, then spent the next inning raising doubts about his health and efficacy. It's a warm, comfortable night in St. Louis, so conditions should be ideal for Lannan to keep his flexor tendon loose.

He and the Nationals will have to beat Chris Carpenter to head home happy. Talk about it all right here.

By Adam Kilgore  |  May 18, 2010; 8:05 PM ET
 
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Comments

To the WaPo staff: Love the information, but please try to ease up on the manic amount of pre-game posts (seven separate posts in under four hours between lineups & game start). Thx.

Posted by: BinM | May 18, 2010 8:30 PM | Report abuse

That was cute. Fan trades Nyjer's glove for the home run ball.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Just a thought, but has 'past a diving Guzman' supplanted the historic "Past a Diving Vidro" as both a regular pattern of announcers' speach, and website title?

Posted by: BinM | May 18, 2010 8:54 PM | Report abuse

Cardinals fans are unfailingly fair, I must say.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 18, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

unfortunately, it was a homerun ball for the Cards.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 8:55 PM | Report abuse

Bin, were you listening to C&D, too?
I had the same thought.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 18, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

Wizards got the #1 draft choice for the NBA draft. Ayone know if Bryce Harper plays hoops?

Posted by: marathoner | May 18, 2010 8:58 PM | Report abuse

but "Past a diving Vidro"--assuming it isn't trademarked--would make a great TShirt, if one were in that line...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 18, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

Ouch, it hurts so bad when a jerk like FLop hurts the Nats. Two runs might be all Carpenter needs

Posted by: nats24 | May 18, 2010 9:01 PM | Report abuse

I think it would have a silhouette, like the NBA logo, of a diving Vidro ...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 18, 2010 9:02 PM | Report abuse

As always - Charlie & Dave help keep me sane; Crapenter & Dribble drive me nuts.
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Bin, were you listening to C&D, too?
I had the same thought.
Posted by: Sec3mysofa

Posted by: BinM | May 18, 2010 9:03 PM | Report abuse

Riggs is shaking his head.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 9:04 PM | Report abuse

I got them on the radio, the lag is not too bad.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 9:05 PM | Report abuse

Listened to Dribble while I was on vacation, seems worse than ever with "we this and we that." Last time I checked he was not a Nationals player, manager, or coach.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 9:06 PM | Report abuse

Understandably. The runner at third has to at least make them take the one out, even if it's him.
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Riggs is shaking his head.
Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 9:04 PM

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 18, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

NL, he does work for the Lerners in effect, if not in fact.

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 18, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

And Guzman has a brain cramp at 3rd, failing to break for home on a grounder to Freese; Result = 5-4-3DP, no run scored.

Great; Guzman's hitting well, but can't play basic baseball. Gawd, he makes me crazy.

Posted by: BinM | May 18, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

Heard quite a few announcers during the last week-- none seemed as bad as Dribble.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 9:13 PM | Report abuse

Who?

Posted by: Naugatuck-Nats | May 18, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

And Nieves (Who?), goes over the wall to get the Nationals on the board.

Posted by: BinM | May 18, 2010 9:24 PM | Report abuse

Wilbertito!!! Un palito por left field...Vamos Indios de Mayaguez y los nats

Posted by: boricuabopper | May 18, 2010 9:25 PM | Report abuse

The Guz haters kill me... I don't get it.

Good clubhouse guy? Bah! Hits for high average consistently? Fuggettaboutit! Bases clearing triple? GW double? Means nuthin!

Somehow failed to prevent a double play? Yeah! He sucks! Get him outta here! Doesn't have enough walks? You got it! Whatta cancer!

Gimme a break...

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 9:26 PM | Report abuse

Wilbertito "un palito por left field"! Vamos Indios de Mayaguez! Go nats

Is it me or does Lannan need to begin working faster?

Posted by: boricuabopper | May 18, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Wow, nice play, Johnny!

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 9:29 PM | Report abuse

The runner on 3rd. after a near life time of playing the game is still to stupid to know that the opposing team is giving you a run for a double play, should be pulled from the game. The 3rd. base coach should be fired along with that idiot announcer who thought he didn't run because he was worried about a triple play. I can not watch or listen to such incompetence.

Posted by: pstotts15 | May 18, 2010 9:32 PM | Report abuse

Triple play! LOL. Wasn't Charlie nor Dave who said it. They are still on Guz' case even after he got another hit.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 9:36 PM | Report abuse

"pulled from the game"...love it. Take half of the teams 6 hits off the field with him. Brilliant managing!

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 9:39 PM | Report abuse

1-2-3...we need some runs now!

Posted by: boricuabopper | May 18, 2010 9:50 PM | Report abuse

Lannan's pitching should calm some fears. So clearly a game of inches -- Flop's HR JUST made it out.

And, despite the base-running blunder -- Who was it that said Guz should give up batting left handed?

Posted by: nats24 | May 18, 2010 9:51 PM | Report abuse

Geez. Waste of a PH opportunity there. Ugh.

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Johnny looked good. Nats just NOT getting the runs.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 9:59 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, Johnny looked good. Nats just NOT getting runs.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 10:01 PM | Report abuse

g3jr:
From my perspective, any player who either can't get it done in the field or the mound, or pulls a bonehead move on the bases is a target. Guzman is the fall-guy so far tonight, but just about everybody else on the roster has fallen prey so far.

Posted by: BinM | May 18, 2010 10:05 PM | Report abuse

It's frustrating to see the offense disappear, but it's not as bad when it's against a Cy Young winner. Against Lohse it's worse. Still, they had chances to score and once (or twice) again couldn't come through in the clutch. I'm sure it won't be the last stretch where they frustrate us, but I'm just as sure there will be times they look like a playoff team. Hopefully next year it will be the latter more often.

Posted by: p-man | May 18, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

Nice inning Sean! 3 outs on 8 pitches. Strasburgian efficiency.

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 10:07 PM | Report abuse

Anyone else getting tired of seeing Harris continually do nothing except walk around with a scowl on his face? He always looks like he's upset he isn't starting... too bad he can't see the numbers they post beneath him when he's at bat. Even Tavaras was outhitting him.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | May 18, 2010 10:08 PM | Report abuse

Bin -- I'm a long-time lurker here and it just seems like Guz is the target an inordinate amount of time. I hated him as much as anyone in 2005 when he was killing us with his barely-.200 avg, but been a big fan ever since. He produces. Consistently and quietly.

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 10:11 PM | Report abuse

C'mon Adam...make 'em pay for the error!

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

Nevermind.

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 10:14 PM | Report abuse

Willie is a good player and seems like a good person. I think he looks like he's angry all the time bcuz he's working on a big lipper...aka = dip. t-plush just dips with more style

i'd be annoyed as well if i had to bat against carpeneter.

c'mon desmond!

Posted by: boricuabopper | May 18, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

All right. Des rides again!

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 10:16 PM | Report abuse

Woo hoo!

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 10:17 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Desmond!

Posted by: CAskinhead | May 18, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm in the Guz camp. Apparently both the TV and radio crews mentioned the triple-play possibility. When a team is 1-9 with RISP, there's plenty of scapegoats, for those who are looking for scapegoats.

And where's that armchair manager now who uses uppercase to command Guzzie to stop batting lefthanded?

Way to go Desi!!!!

Posted by: CapPeterson1 | May 18, 2010 10:18 PM | Report abuse

Agree, Willie on a rough stretch and showing it. He'll come around, he's a pro.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 10:19 PM | Report abuse

ooo, did you see the shot of Carpenter in the dugout? He was really mad, I assume at himself.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 10:20 PM | Report abuse

OK, I'm ready for Clip's 8th win.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 10:22 PM | Report abuse

I was thinking the same thing about Clip's Ws Nats_Lady!

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 10:24 PM | Report abuse

pinch runner gets picked off. Love it!

And he gives up a homer! Oh, Clip. No.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

I'll take responsibility for that one...

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 10:30 PM | Report abuse

Maybe Storen needs to be tried in the 8th. Clippard hasn't been getting it done pretty consistently lately.

Posted by: p-man | May 18, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Why would you pull Burnett when he had just retired the side in the 7th on 8 pitches?

Posted by: CAskinhead | May 18, 2010 10:31 PM | Report abuse

Why would you pull Burnett when he had just retired the side in the 7th on 8 pitches?

Posted by: CAskinhead | May 18, 2010 10:37 PM | Report abuse

Livo going to pitch on 3 days' rest? Well, if anyone can, he can.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 10:39 PM | Report abuse

I saw something the other day that showed he hasn't been real successful on three days rest. But I think he gives the Nats their best chance.

Posted by: marathoner | May 18, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

They just said Dunn was available off the bench; I thought he was having a "procedure."

Posted by: p-man | May 18, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Clipp has 4 BSs and a L in his last 6 appearances. Tonight may make that stat worse. Regression to the mean? I just hope the "mean" is closer to the Clipp of the first 20+ games instead of the last 7.

Posted by: g3jr | May 18, 2010 10:42 PM | Report abuse

Hopefully Dunn will be available tomorrow. Night, folks.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | May 18, 2010 10:50 PM | Report abuse

painful.

But heck, who wudda thunk the Nats would split their first 40 games?

Posted by: nats24 | May 18, 2010 10:51 PM | Report abuse

Man. Guzzie pulls a line drive a foot over, right over, first base...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 18, 2010 10:52 PM | Report abuse

I will own that I recommen
ded that guz go right handed only!

Posted by: mo_dc | May 18, 2010 10:58 PM | Report abuse

Well, on another but related front, another Washington team gets the first pick. I'm not sure I'm still happy about getting the first pick every year in every sport...

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 18, 2010 11:03 PM | Report abuse

g3jr: guz has no range and no arm for shortstop. Yet Riggleman still insists on it. He is now talking about Desmond as a center fielder? Looks like Riggs wants to be his own general manager.

Guz low OBP because he doesn't walk. Right now with .265 average Willingham's OBP is a lot higher why? HE WALKS; he probably should be batting second not Guz.

Posted by: periculum | May 18, 2010 11:46 PM | Report abuse

AGAIN with the "Desmond in the outfield" BS.
WTF are you getting this crap?

Posted by: Sec3mysofa | May 19, 2010 12:01 AM | Report abuse

I don't know about the rest of you, but this road trip, capped off with a five game losing streak, sadly feels right again. Sigh...

Posted by: Intrudr | May 19, 2010 8:28 AM | Report abuse

Man do we need Dunn back something wicked.

Posted by: alex35332 | May 19, 2010 8:40 AM | Report abuse

OKAY!!! Everyone back away from the ledge and put away those sharp objects, this was a fustrating road trip with some gut wrenching loses but every team goes through it the Cards had lost nine of twelve before we came to town we'll be fine Livo's gonna stop the losing streak and we will get back on track but we can't take the Mets or the O's lightly. The pitching hasn't been horrible,yeah Clippard hasn't been getting it done of late but Storen should assume that role but they need to find a way to get Guzmzn in the lineup on a daily basis he hit's plain and simple and right now we need his bat Riggleman may need to tweak the lineup any idea's fellow posters.

Posted by: dargregmag | May 19, 2010 9:13 AM | Report abuse

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