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Nationals overlooked in All-Star voting

Major League Baseball today released its first National League all-star voting update, and the results were not pretty for the Nationals. Ivan Rodriguez ranked third at catcher, behind Yadier Molina of the Cardinals and Carlos Ruiz of the Phillies. No other National appeared in the top 5 at any position.

Ryan Zimmerman won the Gold Glove and Silver Slugger last season at third base, and this year he ranks seventh in the National League -- first among third basemen -- with a .951 OPS. And still he could not crack the top 5 at third, ranking behind Placido Polanco, David Wright, Casey McGahee, Pablo Sandoval and Chipper Jones.

Five Phillies (Polanco, Jayson Werth, Shane Victorino, Jimmy Rollins and leading vote-getting Chase Utley) would currently start in the game, and two others (Ruiz and Ryan Howard) are currently second in the voting.

By Adam Kilgore  |  May 25, 2010; 2:58 PM ET
 
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...therefore, voting to determine who is an "All Star" is clearly an ineffective way of picking the best players for the team. QED

Posted by: Section506 | May 25, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Why is this considered a surprise? Probably 95% of the votes are not based on any thoughtful analysis, but pure "homerism". Players for teams with the largest attendance have a distinct advantage. Teams waging well thought out, aggressive campaigns also give their players a leg up. Most readers may not remember or know of the infamous '58(?) Cincinnati Reds campaign which put 7 of their starters on top. There is nothing new about ballot box stuffing.

Posted by: Slidell | May 25, 2010 3:20 PM | Report abuse

This is dispiriting. I guess in this case, the only way to fight ballot box stuffing is with your own ballot box stuffing. Let the stuffing begin.

Posted by: Section222 | May 25, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

apparently my filling out a ballot every half-inning and voting exclusively for the Nats is not getting it done. Which is kind of disappointing.

Posted by: RedBirdie | May 25, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

This is an inevitable step toward more recognition for Zimmerman. Every year, the media spends a good bit of time critiquing the all-star votes. This time, every analyst at ESPN is going to say "Ryan Zimmerman is the best third baseman in the NL, and he's getting overlooked by the fans." This process will boost Zimmerman's profile, so hopefully next year the fans won't be so ignorant.

Posted by: jcj5y | May 25, 2010 3:29 PM | Report abuse

This is an inevitable step toward more recognition for Zimmerman. Every year, the media spends a good bit of time critiquing the all-star votes. This time, every analyst at ESPN is going to say "Ryan Zimmerman is the best third baseman in the NL, and he's getting overlooked by the fans." This process will boost Zimmerman's profile, so hopefully next year the fans won't be so ignorant.
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Unless the fans are from Philly...

Posted by: jcj5y | May 25, 2010 3:29 PM

Posted by: TimDz | May 25, 2010 3:32 PM | Report abuse

This is why fan voting is stupid...have the players and managers vote for the All-Star's, not who stuffs the ballot box the most by spending the whole game punching ballots or taking a ton home driving nails through the stack and returning them the following week.

Posted by: markfd | May 25, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Just submitted 25 votes for Zimm...and most other Nationals. I split the vote between Kennedy and Guzzie at 2B. And I could only vote for the Hammer as far as the outfield went. I voted for Heyward and Kemp in the other two...though, I wish I had checked the stats because Andre Ethier is outta sight! .392 BA, 1.201 OPS - holy cow!

And Soriano is doing well too. Darn.

Posted by: combedge | May 25, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Feign surprise. Keep winning Nats and the respect of the rest of the league will soon come.

Posted by: colemanNC | May 25, 2010 3:52 PM | Report abuse

GHF: have we ever had a player in the top 3 before? I can't recall that we have.

On a somewhat related note, would it be wrong to start a Vote for the Worst campaign for the AL, as has been done for American Idol in the past? Maybe that way, the NL could win one. :-)

imo, fan voting isn't as lame as having the outcome of an exhibition game determine home field advantage for the World Series.

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | May 25, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

Posted this on NFA:

So in the JC play offs they gave Bryce Harper an aluminum bat. Seems to me a little like giving a shark opposable thumbs.
In 4 games he hit .682 (15/22) with 5 hr, 2 3b, 3 2b.

Any doubt as to how we sould take?

Let's play two!

Posted by: SlowPitch63 | May 25, 2010 4:27 PM | Report abuse

Lots of homerism to be sure, but the average fan still thinks the Nats are the worst team in baseball and are on pace to lose 100 games. It takes a while for most fans to catch up. A little non-Strasburg national press would help, but if the Nats are in it after the break they'll start to get that.

Posted by: Jeff_Jackson | May 25, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Surprised they could tabulate the Phillies fans votes, what with all of the barf on them...

Posted by: baltova1 | May 25, 2010 4:33 PM | Report abuse

MLB All-Star voting needs revamping. Make it 1/3 fans, 1/3 sportswriters and 1/3 GM's/scouts/managers/coaches. That would bring some fairness and objectivity into the process compared to the current system where the AL squad's starting position players are mostly Yankees and Red Sox thanks to their fans stuffing the ballot box.

Posted by: ericp331 | May 25, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

From the fine print of the MLB site:

Vote a maximum of 25 times. Voting ends at 11:59 PM ET on Thursday, July 1, 2010.


From Sunday, July 4 to Thursday, July 8, be sure to return to MLB.com and cast your 2010 All-Star Game Final Vote Sponsored by Sprint for the final player for each League's All-Star roster.

Posted by: summerandwinter | May 25, 2010 4:53 PM | Report abuse

Zimm not getting love sux. Desi a rookie, who is playing lights 4th in UZR at his position that stings. If I was not selfish, I would say hold SS back till next year, so he could get rookie of the year, well I guess we will have Harper for that.

Posted by: hansenjo | May 25, 2010 4:55 PM | Report abuse

Allstar voting is a joke. You can't take the results seriously. They mean absolutely nothing as far as who should be in the game. It should be called the most popular baseball names of the day. Fans don't vote for todays talent, just the names of the past carry any merit with the majority. What a sham.

Posted by: cokedispatch | May 25, 2010 5:09 PM | Report abuse

Votes for Chipper are for what he was not is now. Same for Wright more or less. Zim's day will come.

Sec 204 Row H Seat 7

Posted by: adhardwick | May 25, 2010 5:12 PM | Report abuse

Surprised they could tabulate the Phillies fans votes, what with all of the barf on them...

Posted by: baltova1 | May 25, 2010 4:33 PM
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Post o' the day!

Posted by: g3jr | May 25, 2010 6:57 PM | Report abuse

Voting is stupid. You see how dumb the selections are for all star games. Translate that to Presidential and political elections. America is getting dumber by the day. Half the country is illiterate. Does anybody really trust a consensus of idiots to make an informed decision.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | May 25, 2010 9:14 PM | Report abuse

I've always felt that the fans shouldn't be choosing the starting lineups. Let them (us) pick eight field players who "deserve" to take part, or count the fan ballots as 50% of the final decision; The respective managers can then pick from the top 2-3 per position for starters.

IMHO, it should be up to the Managers to decide the starting nine, just like a regular game, since herr Selig (and MLB) has placed some importance on the outcome (home-field advantage in the World Series).

Posted by: BinM | May 25, 2010 9:17 PM | Report abuse

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