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Game 58 discussion thread: Nationals vs. Reds

The Nationals have lost each of their last three series and have a chance to end that streak today against Cincinnati. Craig Stammen essentially is pitching to keep his spot in the rotation, given the upcoming arrival of Stephen Strasburg. And Washington's lineup is looking to take advantage of the runners it gets on base.

Feel free to post your thoughts throughout the game ...

By Steve Yanda  |  June 6, 2010; 1:35 PM ET
 
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Storms are moving through the area. There will probably be a rain delay within the hour.

Posted by: amorris525 | June 6, 2010 2:09 PM | Report abuse

I've said this before: Would someone (Adam?) PLEASE tell Rizzo to wear a Nats cap when he's sitting out there in the sun? Does he think pre-cancerous lesions are cool?

Posted by: gilbertbp | June 6, 2010 2:11 PM | Report abuse

Front seems to be splitting to the North and West; If the Nationals can get a run here & ride it out, it could be good.

Posted by: BinM | June 6, 2010 2:29 PM | Report abuse

As Dibble would say "Sweet!"... Desmond's finding a groove. Let's get this through the bottom of the 5th and hang out in the clubhouse for a while.

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | June 6, 2010 2:41 PM | Report abuse

Through the top of 5, it's official - Take as many pitches as they can now.

Posted by: BinM | June 6, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

So, is Strasburg in DC already? I haven't see any coverage that indicates that but shouldn't he be here, getting settled in and using the mound? Can they do that if he's not on the roster?

Posted by: baltova1 | June 6, 2010 2:55 PM | Report abuse

Looks like Stammen settled down again after innings 1&2. Seriously, dude. Throw 30+ more pitches in the bullpen, and imagine the first inning is actually the 3rd!

Posted by: mo_dc | June 6, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Special K for Dunn - you're not so special lately dude...

Posted by: mo_dc | June 6, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

@baltova1:
Easy, big fella - The official announcement will most likely come on the off-day (Monday). He & his wife are probably en-route to DC as we 'speak'. Nothing to worry over.

Posted by: BinM | June 6, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

I'm not worried but wouldn't it make sense to have him now, if only to settle in, talk to the coaches/catchers, etc.? I'm not looking for a public appearance, I'm just thinking it makes sense for him to be here.

Posted by: baltova1 | June 6, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

And Morgan's ground-ball hits 'Country' Joe West on its' way to a double. What, no tossing of Morgan for disrepecting The Man?

Posted by: BinM | June 6, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Manassas is getting swept by the front - I'm out for safety's sake.

Posted by: BinM | June 6, 2010 3:46 PM | Report abuse

NOOOO!!! Why take Clippard out now? He has a day to rest.

Posted by: MKadyman | June 6, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

Wow are you serious Capps.

Posted by: amorris525 | June 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Want to make a case Joe West needs a "sabbatical" now? Show the tape of this series. Couldn't get out of the way on that ball down the line -- lots of jiggling on that dance step, Country Joe!

Posted by: mo_dc | June 6, 2010 3:51 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, did Joe West make contact? Interference from ump, eject him.

Oh, Capps, no!

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 6, 2010 3:53 PM | Report abuse

is this the 4th blown save in the last 6 opps for Capps? ugh.

Posted by: visionof75 | June 6, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

This is getting ridiculous. Riggleman keeps pretending it's still April and Capps pretty much automatic. This is as much Rig's blown save as it is Capps'.

Posted by: amo36 | June 6, 2010 3:54 PM | Report abuse

I don't understand Riggleman. Even when Capps was getting saves the other team was scorching the ball. Here we have Clippard mowing them down and he takes him out and puts in Capps and we lose the damned game.

Posted by: MKadyman | June 6, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Two managerial errors here and one GM error, on top of the pitching mistakes.

1) Bringing in your closer after one out. Give him the day off or put him out there for a full outing. Now you've proven you don't trust two pitchers.

2) Not walking Gomes. You only need two outs, set up the double play.

3) We need a real right-fielder.

Posted by: Section506 | June 6, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, this is the second time Capps getting thrown by a bad call, then hanging a pitch to the batter.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 6, 2010 3:56 PM | Report abuse

This entire umpiring crew needs to be fired right now. That was one of the worst calls I've seen all week, and there have been an awful lot of bad calls this week.

Posted by: zaph | June 6, 2010 3:57 PM | Report abuse

Gotta agree that Riggs owns some of this BS. Figure he wanted to give Capps a chance to pick up his save numbers after the follies of the past week, but instead of a Stammen W and Clippard Save, we are playing with fire in extra time!

Posted by: mo_dc | June 6, 2010 3:58 PM | Report abuse

"User reviews and comments that include profanity will be removed from the site."

Well, that counts me out then...

Posted by: HotNats | June 6, 2010 4:00 PM | Report abuse

maybe this is why Riggs is a journeyman manager.

Posted by: visionof75 | June 6, 2010 4:01 PM | Report abuse

Way to go Capps you fat zilch

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | June 6, 2010 4:02 PM | Report abuse

Yeah, there is, IMO, too much emphasis on roles and "righty-lefty" matchups, and not enough observation of when a pitcher is PITCHING WELL. Riggs not the only manager guilty of this... but Clippard has been, quietly, doing quite well recently, and as a former starter and long-relief guy, he can certainly go more than 1 and 1/3 innings.

Re: Bernadina, he's made plenty of good plays, I'm not ready to give up on him yet.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 6, 2010 4:05 PM | Report abuse

Hell yeah Morse. Way to be clutch!

Posted by: amorris525 | June 6, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

OK, Mikey!!!!!

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 6, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

Atta boy, M&M!!!

Posted by: HotNats | June 6, 2010 4:09 PM | Report abuse

MIKE MORSE FOR YOU SUCKASSS

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | June 6, 2010 4:10 PM | Report abuse

Riggleman is like every other manager in baseball. They get locked into the mandatory use of the closer in every save situation. It's hard to criticize him for it (although I disagree with it) because another manager would have done the same thing there.

The bigger problem is execution on the field. A poor play on a tough ball in RF and a bad pitch to a power hitter gets you every time.

But Michael Morse to the rescue!!!!

Posted by: baltova1 | June 6, 2010 4:11 PM | Report abuse

Yeah Morse! Save some bacon for this team and this series! Let's go!

Posted by: mo_dc | June 6, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I'll be honest, I almost x'd out the gametracker in disgust when I saw Morse coming up to PH

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | June 6, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

Way to fight back

Posted by: CAskinhead | June 6, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE could we not lose this game in extra innings? The umps have been doing all they could (IMO) to give this game and series to the Reds. Maybe they are mad they are not getting on National TV with SS's debut?

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 6, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

Morse - big hit !!! Morgan, just make contact there. Nope, another Nat whiff in a big situation.

Posted by: jtunney1 | June 6, 2010 4:14 PM | Report abuse

I have a vision...Zimm wins it with a dinger.

(Assuming they ever get these guys out here)

Posted by: baltova1 | June 6, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

(Sigh) Never mind...

Posted by: baltova1 | June 6, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

sigh...

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | June 6, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

seems to me, although the umpires havent helped, the managing of the bullpen will be the reason for this loss.

Posted by: jtunney1 | June 6, 2010 4:26 PM | Report abuse

Why couldn't it have rained harder in the 8th inning????

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 6, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Burke saved Bernadina's other gaffe. That ball was headed to the Reds dugout for another score...

Made me go back to check when it was that Burke came in for Nieves -- when did he come in? At the start of the inning -- way to step up in a tough situation Burke! (was that his first action in MLB this year?)

Posted by: mo_dc | June 6, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Clearly the Nats did not play great ball in the 9th and 10th innings today, but I refuse to place all the blame on them. If the umpires actually bother to do their jobs correctly, the Nats go into the bottom of the 9th with the score tied at 2 and win on Morse's hit.

I still maintain that all four of these awful umpires should be fired and blacklisted. They should never work again in any league, professional or otherwise.

Posted by: zaph | June 6, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

"They get locked into the mandatory use of the closer in every save situation."

See, I would be more understanding if Riggs trotted out Capps to START the ninth inning. But he didn't get locked into the mandatory use of the closer. It was stupider. He played Clippard for one out and THEN brought in Capps. Why? He doesn't trust his closer? He doesn't trust his set-up man? Just leave Clippard in and call it a day off for Capps.

Posted by: Section506 | June 6, 2010 4:36 PM | Report abuse

506, I don't think there's any difference between your view and mine. He was bringing in Capps all along, after Clippard got that guy out in the ninth. He must have liked the matchup for that first batter with Clippard. But no matter what, Capps was coming in.

I agree with your thinking that the manager should stick with the guy who's in there if he's going well, but no manager in baseball does anything different in that situation. They go to the closer.

Posted by: baltova1 | June 6, 2010 4:48 PM | Report abuse

Well, the only good thing about this game was I didn't get a speeding ticket on Rt. 66 trying to go to the game after work. Didn't speed, didn't go to game, didn't have a heart attack there (almost had one here, though).

Yes, 506, I agree with you. Riggs not locked into Nyjer as the leadoff, why be locked into Capps? Capps got the save on Friday, so he shouldn't need to be brought to "recover" from his previous blown saves. Just go with the guy (Clippard) who is pitching well.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 6, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Looks like they've released some single tickets for Tuesday. Get 'em before the scalpers do!

Posted by: bpSat | June 6, 2010 5:01 PM | Report abuse

Clippard started the 9th to face the left-handed hitting Nix. I'm thinking that was the plan all along and Clippard knew he was only going to face one-batter in the 9th. Not exactly a lack of confidence in him. Arguably the way the move showed a lack of confidence in Capps, which, in retrospect, now seems to be justified.

Charlie and Dave were saying that everything Capps is throwing is up in the zone. He needs to get it together. I would hate to see them have to put Storen in the closer role before Spetember.

Posted by: lowcountry | June 6, 2010 5:19 PM | Report abuse

When will Riggs realize that Adam Dunn is killing this team? Move the freakin guy down to the 7th spot.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 6, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

I know it's second-guessing, but maybe Riggleman should have called time after that pitch, strolled on over to our friend Joe West, the crew chief who seems to want to "get it right", and asked him. He overruled the night before, why not try again? I know it's pushing the envelope, but it appears Joe West and his crew do not have an envelope.

Posted by: LeeM9308 | June 6, 2010 6:41 PM | Report abuse

dovelevine: I've been saying the same thing about Dunn since the end of April it's obvious to even Stevie Wonder that Dunn is pressing when there are RISP he's not even close to having a clue at the plate move him down,Riggleman get's stuck in that typical mangerial mode the closer closes,my cleanup hitter stays right where he is(even if he is killing the team).The ninth was a perfect example Clippard is light's out and when i saw Riggs walk out to get Tyler i said he is playing right into Dusty Baker's hand with Gomes and Rolen on the bench, hell Capp's barely escaped friday night and the Red's batting average against Capp's is higher than the national debt this loss again is on Riggleman.

Posted by: dargregmag | June 6, 2010 6:42 PM | Report abuse

Dunn is pathetic. A mediocre power hitter. Capps should be sent down to the minors. How many blown saves due to his inability to pitch down.

The Nats had two...yes, just two stinking outs to get for a W and Capps handed it to the reds. Rolen comes into pinch hit and hits a dinger?????? Capps sux.

Posted by: M20832 | June 6, 2010 6:53 PM | Report abuse

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