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Game 60 discussion thread: Nationals vs. Pirates

It's a little quieter here at Nationals Park for another young pitcher's major league debut. Most of the 200 credentialed media from last night have skipped town, deciding not to stick around for the Pirates debut of 25-year-old Brad Lincoln. Lincoln, the fourth overall pick in the 2006 draft, went 6-2 with a 3.16 ERA at Class AAA Indianapolis this year.

He'll get his first crack at Nationals lineup energized last night by three home runs by their 3-4-5 hitters -- first time all season Ryan Zimmerman, Adam Dunn and Josh Willingham homered in the same game. Riggleman said he hopes the Nationals can take advantage of some nerves by Lincoln. The crowd is thin, probably moreso because of rainy weather than a post-Strasburg hangover. The Pirates probably have something to do with it, too.

John Lannan will try to add to his string of strong starts. Talk about it all right here.

By Adam Kilgore  |  June 9, 2010; 7:05 PM ET
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It was a great night, with two exceptions: Boorish behavior #1: no booing at former Nats team members--we should give them a round of applause--they are part of our family and history. Boorish behavior #2: We aren't the Cubs and have no wish to be--No throwing the ball back.

Posted by: awsexton123 | June 9, 2010 7:24 PM | Report abuse

Lannan managed to muddle his way through the 1st, giving up two infield hits & a walk without surrendering either a run or a ball into the OF. Effective, but still lacking the command that he seemed to have in '08-09, imo.

In the home half, RZim takes a BB, and Dunn takes a mistake deep. 2-0 Nats. I could be wrong, but Dunn might be finding one of his "zoned-in" stretches.

Posted by: BinM | June 9, 2010 7:27 PM | Report abuse

Thata way big Dunnkey!

Posted by: Kev29 | June 9, 2010 7:33 PM | Report abuse

Agree 100%, awsexton

Posted by: Kev29 | June 9, 2010 7:34 PM | Report abuse

Dunn sucks. Move him down in the order.... Pfh

Posted by: Imjustlikemusiq | June 9, 2010 7:46 PM | Report abuse


I'm with you on the booing of ex-Nats; Just go mute - No booing, but maybe polite applause, unless they were stone-cold horrid while in a Nationals uniform. On the HR throw-backs, meh. Yeah, Cubs' fans have been doing it forever, but it's individual fan reaction imo.
Now, if you want to talk about adopted behaviours, don't get me started about the team playing "Sweet Caroline" at any time during a game; GRRR!

Posted by: BinM | June 9, 2010 7:47 PM | Report abuse

I think Nyjer will be having a seat on the bench for the series closer tomorrow

Posted by: Kev29 | June 9, 2010 7:53 PM | Report abuse

@awsexton et al: No question. Silence for Lastings perhaps, but there should have been a little love for Ryan Church. What possible reason could there be for the smattering of boos he received?

Has Nyger hit the cuttoff once this season?

Posted by: jaxml | June 9, 2010 7:58 PM | Report abuse

A fan said, "Nats, you're gonna drive me to drinkin'
If you don't start hitting that rook Brad Lincoln."

Posted by: Ted_Striker | June 9, 2010 8:04 PM | Report abuse

Please get healthy soon Jesus Flores. Wil drives me crazy as a backup.

Posted by: amorris525 | June 9, 2010 8:12 PM | Report abuse

Random observations -
Lannan is becoming his own worst enemy by not developing a pickoff move; The book is out on him, and teams are seemingly running at will against him.
Nieves is still fine as a #2 catcher, at least defensively; It's only when he plays 2-or-more times a week that his offensive weaknesses are clearly exposed.
It wouldn't hurt the team that much to sit Guzman occaisionally & start Kennedy at 2B.

Posted by: BinM | June 9, 2010 8:31 PM | Report abuse

"A fan said, "Nats, you're gonna drive me to drinkin'
If you don't start hitting that rook Brad Lincoln."

Big Commander Cody fan.

Posted by: luxetveritas | June 9, 2010 8:33 PM | Report abuse

How is 4 stolen bases against fine defensively. And he isn't the best game caller either.

Posted by: amorris525 | June 9, 2010 8:41 PM | Report abuse

@amorris: Don't blame the SB's all on Nieves - Lannan has a horrid SB% when he's on the mound, and barely bothers with a move to 1B to hold runners.

Posted by: BinM | June 9, 2010 8:56 PM | Report abuse

I won't blame them all on Nieves. I'm just really sick of him that's all. Just want Flores back.

Posted by: amorris525 | June 9, 2010 9:00 PM | Report abuse

amorris525: Will Nieves probably playing the toughest and most demanding position on the field i miss Flores too i thought the kid could be an all star hopefully he be back before the season is over but Nieves gives it all he's got and this fan base has gotten spoiled by Pudge.

Posted by: dargregmag | June 9, 2010 9:38 PM | Report abuse

Agreed. Not faulting the effort. It is clearly there.

Posted by: amorris525 | June 9, 2010 9:46 PM | Report abuse

but there should have been a little love for Ryan Church. What possible reason could there be for the smattering of boos he received?

How about his Anti-Semitic rant back in '05?

Posted by: InTheCheapSeats | June 9, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

What an ugly game, but heck, it's a victory, the kind the Nats need to win.

I'm old enough to remember the original "Hot Rod Lincoln'' and it wasn't Commander Cody's. I keep thinking Nervous Norvis, but that was "Tranfusion,'' another song of the same ilk. I'm too worn out after this one to look it up, but kudos to Ted_Striker for the funny line.

Posted by: nats24 | June 9, 2010 10:28 PM | Report abuse

You have to go pretty far back into the cheap seats to call Church's 2005 remarks anti-Semitic. It was garden variety doctrine for the kind of Christian who thinks only people with the right kind of belief about Jesus go to heaven, but it didn't preach hate or make non-believers out to be bad people. Disagree with it all you want (I do), but it shouldn't be any more offensive for him to say it than for someone else to say they think differently. It's a little hard to understand how telling somebody they're not allowed to say what they believe out loud is some kind of blow for tolerance.

Posted by: zimbar | June 9, 2010 11:14 PM | Report abuse

Just because I have no life:

"Hot Rod Lincoln" was first recorded by Charlie Ryan and the Livingston Brothers. Ryan co-wrote the song with W.S. Stevenson and actually owned a 12 cylinder Lincoln hot rod. It was an answer song to "Hot Rod Race" by Arkie Shibley and his Mountain Dew Boys. I mention this just for the chance to get that band name out there.

Ryan released another slightly more successful version as Charlie Ryan and the Timberline Riders in 1959.

Johnny Bond was the first to have a hit with it in 1960.

Commander Cody's version was released in 1972 and charted in the top 10 in both the US and Canada. It's become a signature song for Asleep and the Wheel and every bar band with a guitarist who can play the lick.

Posted by: zimbar | June 9, 2010 11:24 PM | Report abuse

nats24: I wanna say it was Cmmdr.Cody and the Lost Planet Airman but as my mama used to say "don't start me to lyin" anyway two more errors tonight not good, not good at all but a win all the same i'm hoping Riggs will stick with a set lineup but i know we don't have the everyday talent for that to happen good to see Bernadina get some hits tonight,okay let's sweep these bumms!!

Posted by: dargregmag | June 9, 2010 11:25 PM | Report abuse

I'm proud of you, zimbar. If you're here, you DO have a life!

And I'm with you on the Church remark. It was stupid, but not venomous. (I wonder if he still has the same girlfriend?)

Posted by: nats24 | June 10, 2010 12:35 AM | Report abuse

I agree. My calling it a "rant" was an overstatement.

Posted by: InTheCheapSeats | June 10, 2010 9:17 AM | Report abuse

"but there should have been a little love for Ryan Church. What possible reason could there be for the smattering of boos he received?"

No that it really matters, but how about his complete lack of hustle during Spring Training each season? Each year, he assumed he would be the starting CF and each season he didn't put forth much effort. Of course, each season he gets sent down to AAA and he sulked, at times complaining that he "deserved" to be in DC. He never had the approach that most others did (and should have) ... never assume a spot is automatically yours. You have to earn it year in and year out. That's why I would have booed Church if I were at the game(s).

Posted by: erocks33 | June 10, 2010 10:21 AM | Report abuse

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