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Game 76 discussion thread: Nationals at Orioles

The Washington Nationals will try to avoid a sweep at the hands of the team with the worst record in the majors. They'll also be aiming for just their fourth win against an AL team since June 11 and third win in the last 12 overall.

Starting for the Nationals will be Luis Atilano, who went 5 1/3 innings and allowed one run in Washington's 4-3 victory over Kansas City on Tuesday. Atilano is 6-4 with a 4.52 ERA.

Jeremy Guthrie will start for the Orioles. Guthrie is 3-9 with a 4.28 ERA.

Talk about the game right here, and check back following the final out for updates.

By Gene Wang  |  June 27, 2010; 1:00 PM ET
 
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Comments

No one here? Everyone sweating it out in Balmer? OK. Obviously 3 runs is not enough. PLEASE let us win this game!

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 27, 2010 2:31 PM | Report abuse

So far so good for Atilano. Nice play by Gonzalez as that throw had a bit of an in between hop to second. Offense cannot shut down today!

Posted by: marathoner | June 27, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

So far so good for Atilano. Nice play by Gonzalez as that throw had a bit of an in between hop to second. Offense cannot shut down today!

Posted by: marathoner | June 27, 2010 2:44 PM | Report abuse

with the comebacks, and error's, this has been one annoying important series. And it's lowly Baltimur!

Posted by: 23lil | June 27, 2010 2:59 PM | Report abuse

If Riggleman really wants to get serious about defense, Alberto Gonzalez should start at second, except when Nieves is playing.

Our second basemen are killing us. But this is Rizzo/the owners fault for not ponying up for Orlando Hudson.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewforum.php?f=124

Posted by: CJArlington | June 27, 2010 3:02 PM | Report abuse

Coming up on the halfway point in the season, I think the majority of the fan base would now agree that this team will not be contenders; The question then becomes, will the Nationals be active, or passive sellers as the trade deadline (July 31) approaches? Here's my two-cents-worth overview of the 25-man roster.

Available players: Damn near everybody not named Zimmerman. My rationale is as follows -
>Dunn (1B): Available as a rental for 2010; Would ask for two solid prospects in return, given Dunn's value as an 'A'-level FA.
>Willingham (LF): Controlled through 2011; Could demand two solid prospects, or a Prospect & a pair of futures in return.
>Rodriguez (CA): Controlled through 2011; Maybe worth a prospect & a future, to a condending team, but will probably stay put.
>Guzman (MI): Another rental, could be moved to a contender for a couple of futures, if the Nationals eat salary.
>Morse (RF-1B): Could move if Dunn doesn't. Most likely in a multi-player deal for Prospects & futures.
>Bernadina (RF) & Morgan (CF): Could be a additions on a multi-player deal, but unlikely.
>Desmond (SS): Almost as untouchable as Zimmerman this year, but I think Rizzo might listen if something BIG was available.
>Nieves (CA), Kennedy (2B), Gonzalez (MI), Harris (UT): All expendible, dependent on other deals.

Pitching - Strasburg, JZim, Clippard, & Storen are clearly 'holds', and Marquis, Wang, and Olsen are untradeable, given their DL-status. As to the rest...
>Capps (CL): A rental, could be of value to a contending team; Maybe a pair of futures in return.
>Lannan: Could be dealt if the returning offer was "over-the-top".

>Mock, Peralta, Burnett, Batista, Walker, & Slaten: Possible 'throw-ins' on deals.

Posted by: BinM | June 27, 2010 3:09 PM | Report abuse

Well this is progress, the margin of blown leads keeps diminishing. Actually, it's a sickening display of ineptitude. Maybe it's time for a players only meeting to try and straighten things out. It's to the point that you just sit there waiting the the next screwup. No lead is safe and no deficit is surmountable. They're simply waiting to lose as if they have no control over their fate.

Posted by: Natmeister | June 27, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

I'll bet Kilgore is starting to realize why Harlan didn't want to write about baseball anymore.

Posted by: SorenKierkegaard | June 27, 2010 3:25 PM | Report abuse

Whoops, left off a few pitchers -
>Hernandez: Probably not trade-bait, but probably available if anyone needs an 'inning-eater'.
>Atilano, Martin: More 'throw-ins', should a BIG player become available.

Posted by: BinM | June 27, 2010 3:26 PM | Report abuse

When is Rizzo gonna step forward and take responsibility for the total ineptitude that is the Nats. This is the team that he put together. Boy he was all over the place basking in the glow in April when things were going well. Interview after interview.
Where's he been lately? Aside from Strasburg, which is a decision anyone one of us could have made, his decisions have absolutely buried this team.
No starting pitching staff, no 2nd baseman, no backup catcher, no shortstop, no center fielder, no leadoff hitter. On and on.
This is Rizzo's team. Let's hear what he has to say. What a freakin joke.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

I think we should keep Capps for the season, to protect the young'uns (not that he's that old). We rented him for the season, he's working out well, except for that rough patch.

We'll have to keep Livo, no one will trade for him and we need innings-eaters just as much as the next team.

Atilano and JD Martin looking OK to keep, jury still out on Lannan (unfortunately).

Even though we are not contenders (short of a miracle run like the Chi Sox), we should still keep the bullpen intact, really.

I'd like to say we would be sellers, but I can't see who we'd sell that we could get anything for, other than Dunn and we talked endlessly about trading Dunn and never did. Not a fan of Kennedy, but what we gonna get for him? Willie--no sale? Nieves--would be nice to have a better backup catcher, but it ain't happening.

Simple problem is, anything we could trade we probably should keep.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 27, 2010 3:34 PM | Report abuse

Atilano is most likely done after 7IP (92PT,5H,3R,3K). Who's got next - Walker, Batista, Peralta, or Clippard?

Posted by: BinM | June 27, 2010 3:36 PM | Report abuse

BinM - your assesement seems logical.
I hate to see Dunn go, but there's no way the Lerner's will pony up to keep him.

Posted by: 23lil | June 27, 2010 3:37 PM | Report abuse

Continuing--

Not going to get much for Guz. Might get something for Morse. Not gonna trade Desmond since we are "developing him". Might get something for Bernadina, but again, why trade him when he's working so hard and developing? Not going to trade Nyjer. Could trade the Hammer, but not likely to get a good starter for him and he would leave a big hole next year.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 27, 2010 3:39 PM | Report abuse

Adam Kennedy is symptomatic of everything that is wrong with this team. Management was to cheap to pay for a real 2nd baseman so they tried to sell on this bargain basement leftover. And he has singlehandedly cost us almost a week's worth of games. Guzman and Kennedy have
12+ errors while Hudson has 2.

The Nationals under Rizzo and Riggleman are the WORST defensive team in the league. No twisting of facts can change that. Defend that.
The plan? Oh yea the plan. Build on the cheap, close your eyes, hold your nose and hope for the best.
Rizzo and Riggs have done the impossible--make one long for Bowden and Acta.
These guys STINK!!!

Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Disagree: Not going to trade Pudge, they need him to call games for Drew, Clipp and Strasburg. (His bat is helpful also).

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 27, 2010 3:42 PM | Report abuse

Great display of clutch hitting - 3 K's in a row. This one is winding down, just need the final nail in the coffin. Who gets the honors?

Posted by: Natmeister | June 27, 2010 3:45 PM | Report abuse

Well, I can't long for Bowden instead of Rizzo, but Riggs REALLY blew Friday game with over-managing the pitchers. You can't ASSUME that Clipp will be perfect every time, and Riggs left himself with no options when Clipp imploded.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 27, 2010 3:47 PM | Report abuse

And as far as witing around for young rookie Ian Desmond? The guy is 24, not 18, not 21, he's 24 and been around forever. If he can't figure out the game by now, I'm not sure he ever will. Half the mistakes he makes are ones that high school players don't make. Maybe there's a reason he's been in the minors for so long. He aint a kid and he doesn't seem to get it. Your so-called leaders/quarterbacks on the infield--Desmond and outfield--Morgan are two of the dumbest players on the team. No wonder this team is so bad. And Rizzo put these guys there. This team is a shambles.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 3:48 PM | Report abuse

Being a seller is one thing, but why would any team get rid of 22-25 year old players that are starters or potential starters?

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | June 27, 2010 3:49 PM | Report abuse

Another stupidness by Kennedy.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 27, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Aside from Stras every 5th day there is no good reason now to watch this team at all. Oh and BTW, Wang, who was supposed to save this team come June and was one of the main reasons Rizzo didn't sign any frontline pitchers in the offseason, well possibly now he'll show in August. That's AUGUST. So much for the cavelry.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 3:55 PM | Report abuse

Embarrassed by the Astros, Royals, Tigers and now the Blows - and there are some I'm forgetting. If no changes are made and rapidly then I'll assume upper management is OK with fielding this team, a team that I'm not OK with as a fan.

This is as low as I've felt as a Nats fan. Sad part as I now believe this is the way the season plays out for this team of losers. If I'm Pudge, Dunn, Willingham, Guz or anyone over 25 I'm beggin Rizzo to trade me - anywhere - as quickly as possible to get off this sinking ship of a franchise.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | June 27, 2010 3:59 PM | Report abuse

Thank goodness Rizzo got rid of malcontents like Dukes and filled the team with lots of "high character" guys like Kennedy and Harris and all the rest including all those great major league fielders or who knows where the Nats would be right now.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 4:06 PM | Report abuse

*runs up the white flag on the 2010 season*

Swept by the Orioles.

What else possibly needs to be or could be said?

Posted by: medic2010 | June 27, 2010 4:07 PM | Report abuse

Terrible. G'night, all.

Posted by: Nats_Lady | June 27, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

We get two on with no outs and the heart of our lineup strikes out.

Their guy gets a clutch hit.

This team is pathetic.

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | June 27, 2010 4:08 PM | Report abuse

Hang your heads in shame boys, hang your heads in shame. Swept by the worst team in baseball, in the one venue where your fans can easily travel and support you.

Posted by: smill411 | June 27, 2010 4:13 PM | Report abuse

What a bleeping disaster -- three one run losses to the worst (now second worst) team in MLB with unearned runs in each game. It's 2009 all over again. Now what, hire a screamer for manager?

Posted by: Natmeister | June 27, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

I feel all 3 games were lost specifically becausing of managing. Sad. Why was Clippard brought out again today ? Why did Kennedy start at 2nd ? This team is regressing quickly and changes need to be made.

Posted by: jtunney1 | June 27, 2010 4:15 PM | Report abuse

The Lerner's keeping Bowden when they got the team sent the franchise backwards. If you look at the farm systen help is not on the way from Syracuse or Harrisburg. That coupled with the inability to acquire quality free agents to kee the team competitive has led to this current state of despair. I am willing to give Rizzo more time, but they need to start spending money next year if they want this team to survive.

Posted by: djorl | June 27, 2010 4:20 PM | Report abuse

I think it is obvious you can't put Kennedy out there at 2nd.

Posted by: Vze2sr66 | June 27, 2010 4:24 PM | Report abuse

The Nats need a real bonefide GM, not some assistant learning on the job. Rizzo has done nothing except agree to pay Strasburg at the 12th hour.
The Nats need a real manager, not some interim from last season who is allowed to just stay on indefinitely ala Trembley.
And the Cheap Lerners have got to open up their purse. Enough already.
Are we gonna be the Senators all over again fore the next decade?

Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

different year, same attitude. If the team doesn't care why should we.

Posted by: JDB1 | June 27, 2010 4:35 PM | Report abuse

Why is Willie Harris, Adam Kennedy and Will Nieves on the team? That's three dead spots in the lineup. Who is responsible for wasting ours and there time?
Why do we not have a major league center fielder or leadoff hitter? Who is responsible for that?
Why do we not have a major league starting pitching rotation? Who is responsible for that?
Why do we have the worst defensive team in all the Majors? Who is responsible for that?
Why do we not have a major league caliber shortstop? Who is responsible for that?
Who is responsbile for this debable called the Nats? Is it Kasten, the Lerners, Rizzo, Riggleman?
Who is in charge and who is responsible?Just wondering.
Would those in charge please stand up.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 4:39 PM | Report abuse

I am ashamed as a fan and for this minor league team we root for called the Nationals. So the Nats get swepped by the team with the worst record this year in baseball. Does this mean we ARE the worst team now? Even if we have a better record (but not by much).

So the Nats are going to get the #3 pick behind the bloweeyo's and crapsburgh in next year's draft? Probably. The way this titanic is going down.

Right...it's a loooonnnnggg 162 game season. They have to get better, shouldn't they?

Oh, yeah....Bryce Harper really wants to come here after probably watching this three game disaster? Yeah....right...

Posted by: M20832 | June 27, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

This team has a very fragile pysche. Seems like whenever they show a semblance of respectability they fall fast and hard. Can't seem to handle the pressure of increased expectations. Yes, the starting pitching has been hit hard with injuries but the lousy fielding and weak clutch hitting have been the real culprits. All you get is brief spurts and then a big letdown. The excitement and expectation of the impending SS golden era has pretty much disappeared. Once the hole gets deep enough they will probably relax and return to mediocrity knowing the pressure is gone for the season.

Posted by: Natmeister | June 27, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

Swept by the O's at Camden, and all three losses from the bullpen (still the team 'strength')- WTF?
All the team can hope to do now is to be a 'pest' to the other NL East teams, and possibly move some players for future value.

Posted by: BinM | June 27, 2010 4:42 PM | Report abuse

They would stand up dovelevine, but they are too busy slapping high fives and counting their coin.

They are making MILLIONS. Do you really think they CARE what you or I think? They give you what they give you. Deal with it.

Meanwhile they get more wealthy.

100 losses, here we come!!!

Posted by: medic2010 | June 27, 2010 4:50 PM | Report abuse

Why is Willie Harris, Adam Kennedy and Will Nieves on the team?
Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 4:39 PM
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Bcause they is still under contract, & no-1 else wants them right now, Idgit.

Posted by: BinM | June 27, 2010 4:56 PM | Report abuse

Riggs couldn't manage a little league squad. Three losses to the worst team in baseball. Pack your bags.

Posted by: hersheykid | June 27, 2010 5:02 PM | Report abuse

Can someone find dovelevine's meds for him, please? Longing for Bowden and Acta? Really?

Reality check. If you had asked Rizzo at the beginning of the spring, who'd be in your starting rotation in late June, he'd probably have said Strasburg, Lannan, Marquis, Detwiler, and Olsen. Notice anything, kids? Four of them aren't here. They're trying to get by with Atilano, Livan and Martin while they wait for the other guys to get healthy.

Mediocre (at best) starting pitching puts pressure on the defense because the balls in play so much. Plus the bullpen gets overused. Meanwhile, this is going to be a very inconsistent offense with Morgan struggling at leadoff and three "patient" hitters in the middle. That patience means they'll end up striking out a lot in key spots which they're doing now.

Rizzo (and the rest of us) has to sweat out the next couple of weeks until he gets Detwiler, Marquis and Olsen back and until Lannan finds his form again. If most of those guys come back, we'll have an OK rotation, solid bullpen, average offense and lousy defense. This team will still likely win 70-75 games, which will be a real improvement over last year (in case you forget).

They real key to this season isn't what's going on on the field in the big leagues, it's what going on in the rehab work of those starting pitchers.

Posted by: baltova1 | June 27, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

To all those who said the Nats were making no progress and I disagreed with, please accept my apologies. You were right and I was wrong. The current management and ownership has this team steerer right at another 100 loss season while making lots of money. I only enjoy the fact that day after day Rizzo is sitting in the stands watching what he has created and I don't believe I've ever seen him smile.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | June 27, 2010 5:07 PM | Report abuse

And the reason the nats didn't get Valentine and hired Riggleman was because Riggleman "knew" this team?

What a joke....

Posted by: M20832 | June 27, 2010 5:08 PM | Report abuse

Its the owners and their budget. There is no margin for error in nearly any aspect. It all has to work close to perfect. Every player has to be healthy and close to maximum ability for the manager's flaws to be covered. The reverse is true. Two examples, Clippard is close to used up because the Manager has no where else to turn as the staff implodes. Perhaps a better example is Hudson. He was available for so long maybe he would have always stood up the Nats, but why not force the issue? Why not spend money on better free agents on short term deals to stabilize the rooster? Why act as though your postnatel fanbase can always be abused? Most damning why keep Bowden for more than 1 year if winning counted? This is the GM MLB gave you. Buy a business fire the tresurer/manager. It is the same thing. Sorry to mix today with 4 years ago, but I'm seriously pissed off

Posted by: stpnat | June 27, 2010 5:23 PM | Report abuse

We've heard many diagnoses as to what ails the Nats. Many boil down to the need for better players.

The need is real, and I don't advocate standing pat. But I am convinced that these players are capable of much better than this. Not great, but something approaching respectable.

And FWIW, another symptom: The Nats have not scored a 9th inning run since I think June 6. And they have been shut out in innings 7-8-9 over the last 8 games. It's tough to watch your team roll over and play dead.

Posted by: KenNat | June 27, 2010 5:37 PM | Report abuse

This is all well and good, but what can be done? Should they fire Riggleman and steal Valentine from the Marlins? Should they be patient and take more lumps?

Can they trade for solid defenders?

Posted by: GoNatsTerps | June 27, 2010 6:04 PM | Report abuse

A Nationals Fan 2010 fashion tip ..... all you need to do to honor the NEW LOOK NATS ...... simply iron on a T and F after your curly W on your hats or shirts and you will be all set for the next half of this great 2010... do not forget plenty of good seats available and in July EXTRA larger beer mug MONTH...so you will have plenty of room for your tears and those great Miller products

Posted by: CBinDC | June 27, 2010 6:08 PM | Report abuse

While the circumstances are different in that the leads weren't all blown in the 9th inning, this weekend feels strikingly like the infamous weekend series against the Marlins last year, when the Nats set the all-time MLB record for blown 9th inning leads in a weekend series.

In that case, all the blame fell on the bullpen, but emotionally the feeling is the same: completely deflated, and a sense that the season is for all practical purposes over. That this sensation comes at the very moment everyone was expecting would be a new beginning for the team -- Strasburg arriving, etc. -- makes it in some ways worse.

I wonder if ever before in a weekend series has a team taken leads of 6-0, 5-0, and 3-0 and then in each case (a) stopped scoring runs and (b) given up precisely enough runs to lose each game by a run. It could be a first.

Like that weekend against the Marlins, it has been unbelievably demoralizing. And unlike that weekend, you can't just fire the bullpen and pretend that's the answer.

Maybe they will score some runs for SS tomorrow. That's about the only hope they have left.

Posted by: Meridian1 | June 27, 2010 6:10 PM | Report abuse

It's 6:11pm and after Friday's blown 6-0 lead I have been unable to watch or llisten to Nationals games...yesterday's second blown lead only mired me deeper...Today I'm waiting for NBC4's sports but have gleaned that they lost...

Is it just me feeling like this???? Now all I see is losing the next 6...Mets and Braves, who are not fooling around...

What a blown opportunity to sweep or take at least 2 from the O's, a team that was truly sinking if not already sunk...After the first loss, someone needed to read the team the riot act...don't care who it was, just somebody....9 game losing streak is now a real possibility...

Posted by: pentagon40 | June 27, 2010 6:14 PM | Report abuse

Yeah the blown 6-0 lead set up the whole defeatist attitude for the series. Dunn had a couple of key RBI hits but his stats are revealing:

Bases empty = .310
Runners on = .240
RISP = .200
RISP w/ 2 outs = .063
After 0-1 = .198
After 0-2 = .111
Count 3-2 = .162
Bases empty HR = 13
HR w/ runners = 4
HR w/ RISP = 1

That's not much production from a clean up hitter.

Posted by: Natmeister | June 27, 2010 6:27 PM | Report abuse

Guzman needs to be back at SS...seeing too many wild throws to 1st on double plays...even Zimmerman doing it...why can't fielders just hold the ball and not give up the extra base which is killling us???? I would use Nyjer defensively coming in late in close games...we need a bat out there...

Something has to be done at SS & second base immediately....

Posted by: pentagon40 | June 27, 2010 6:29 PM | Report abuse

Kudos to Bernadina for a good game and to Gonzalez for a nice game at short. I agree wholeheartedly with dovelevine's earlier post on the unfortunate Desmond.

Posted by: longhorn64 | June 27, 2010 6:34 PM | Report abuse

Here's the career stats for Dunn:
2010 Career
Bases empty = .310 .386
Runners on = .240 .246
RISP = .200 .231
RISP w/2 outs = .063 .211
After 0-1 = .198 .202
After 0-2 = .111 .124
Count 3-2 = .162 .191
Bases empty HR = 13 189
HR w/ runners = 4 144
HR w/ RISP = 1 77

Not exactly Mr. Clutch. For comparison, Desomond is batting .343 with RISP

Posted by: Natmeister | June 27, 2010 6:56 PM | Report abuse

Folks please drop all of the dreaming and what might be. The reality is...., after losing almost 245 games over the past 2.5 years the LernerStank have the gal to tell you they are/have turned the corner. BS, this is still the same bad team with a few spare parts. There is nothing here to make it get any better this year, next year or maybe even 3 years hence. Believe me, once the NL gets the book on SS, its gonna be the KC nightmare plus alot of taters heading for the seats every 5 days. Monday night(Braves), followed by Saturday (Mets) will be the test! I'm not betting them acing those either.

Riggleman is a terrible manager and his track record plays that out.

Dunn needs to be moved, there is no reason to have him hitting solo homers and whiffing with RISP.

Livo, Guzman, Kennedy, all need to be shown the door come Oct 4th.

Mike "the Emperor has no cloths" Rizzo must be looking for that hemlock cocktail right about now!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | June 27, 2010 7:04 PM | Report abuse

I remember the down feeling after a Skins-Dallas loss in the 80's...That same feeling has been absent but slowly returned Friday nite after that O's loss...it returned fully blown after saturday's loss...don't have to tell you what Sunday has done to me...

Posted by: pentagon40 | June 27, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

This is a horrible all-around situation:

Dibble in the booth has declared open war on the idiots selecting pitches, and on the soft way the Nationals play baseball.

We get fed constant lies about how much the team hurts when they lose. Big deal. The solution is WINNING.

Riggleman is a blend of Manny Acta and Neville Chamberlain. His goal for the team is accomodation, not winning.

We hold our breath on EVERY routine defensive play. Will Zimm throw it over 2B's head on a double-play? Will Desmond continue at over 150% more E's than the next error guy in the majors? Could Guz have any LESS range? There is NO double-play or other defensive play for this team that is routine.

Does it seem like the front office brings really quiet players and coaches onto this team--guys who will NEVER stir things up? Here's an idea; HIRE SOME PLAYERS AND COACHES WHO WILL STIR THINGS UP!!!

This team is where the Redskins were 5 years ago and where the Wizards were 3 years ago: all hype, all talk, lots of guys happy to lose for a big paycheck.

Shut the PR, marketing, and media operations down until you WIN.

Posted by: ThinkingOne | June 27, 2010 7:39 PM | Report abuse

This blog should be terminated and the Nats boycotted.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 27, 2010 7:40 PM | Report abuse

I don't like losing three to the Os, BUT what is really bad is having to listen to Dribble and I - I - I. Along with Palmer and that guy
Dave, whoever he is, it was the worst broadcasting of baseball I have ever heard. And I remember, Arch McDonald back in the 40s.
Keep eveyone and get rid of Dribble and I'll be
happy.
Bill from Rockville

Posted by: wtait1212 | June 27, 2010 7:45 PM | Report abuse

Adam,
Where is Tarik ? Are you nothing more than a secretary ? Give us some real news from the locker room before the national press or go to Asia and send the other guy back! Of course if this thread is all that the WP is paying for I understand

Posted by: navboss | June 27, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Adam,
Where is Tarik ? Are you nothing more than a secretary ? Give us some real news from the locker room before the national press or go to Asia and send the other guy back! Of course if this thread is all that the WP is paying for I understand

Posted by: navboss | June 27, 2010 7:55 PM | Report abuse

Sure, blame it on Dunn. We have plenty of other 40 HR and 100 RBI guys--the lineup is full of them.

Posted by: EdDC | June 27, 2010 8:36 PM | Report abuse

The last 3 days have been hideously demoralizing. End of a tie game, two on, no outs, heart of the order, and we get zero runs. And sad to say, that is exactly what I expected.

The Jeezus bounce has been officially killed. Thank you cheap owners. To put it in terms you might possibly understand, would you build a shopping mall out of spit and cardboard, put in one really fancy escalator, and expect people to come? You are idiots, and you have my team hostage. Dan Snyder used to have my team hostage. Then I stopped watching.

Posted by: NatsFly | June 27, 2010 8:53 PM | Report abuse

Battle of the Beltway Basement! Yeah,the Birds stink. But hey, it's Deja Vu all over again! Watching the GNATS Saturday in their Senator uniforms brought back the thrilling days of old when they were rolled year after year by the Orioles. Older GNATS fans can painfully remember the American League Senators, who were stomped by the Orioles for 18 years.If not, just ask Boswell, he'll tell you all about it! Memo to Rizzo- burn the retro gear, they are starting to resemble their pathetic ancestors!

Posted by: JohnnyDB | June 27, 2010 9:07 PM | Report abuse

Then I stopped watching.

And you should have added....stop going. To buy their $8.00 beer and $14.00 chili half smokes...

Screw you Lerners!!! WE THE FANS (NOT MUCH LONGER) ARE FED UP WITH A LOSING ORGANIZATION!!!!

Posted by: M20832 | June 27, 2010 9:08 PM | Report abuse

A tremendous series! I was entertained from start to finish.

Posted by: croftonpost | June 27, 2010 9:23 PM | Report abuse

EdDC, don't bother. It's not the day for logic. Panic mode has set in.

Posted by: baltova1 | June 27, 2010 9:28 PM | Report abuse

Ronnie Belliard is playing 2B for the Dodgers against the Yankees tonight. He just hit a homer off Andy Pettite. Good for him.

Posted by: longhorn64 | June 27, 2010 9:43 PM | Report abuse

In response to:

"Then I stopped watching.

And you should have added....stop going. To buy their $8.00 beer and $14.00 chili half smokes...

Screw you Lerners!!! WE THE FANS (NOT MUCH LONGER) ARE FED UP WITH A LOSING ORGANIZATION!!!!"

Yeah, I stopped going to see Snyder's craptastic show too--but not until last year. It took me a long time. On the other hand, I remember Gibbs I, and there is no such tradition here. I am a STH (partial plan) and one who is getting jaded. When friends and family are in town, I bring them to the park. How much longer? A friend was in my living room tonight and was ridiculing her business' decision to have a Nats outing. She wondered why anyone would want to see them. I was not in a good mood, but still tried to explain that the last game I went to was June 8 and I took several family members and we had a great time. The only problem was that we were so rivited by the game that we had no time to go get a second beer. Fortunately, we had brought along 3 20 somethings, who can always be depended on for a beer run so long as the elders are paying.

Then honesty required that I mention that this team had totally sucked since then... I cannot believe how this ownership has squandered so many opportunities. Baseball return to DC. New stadium. Best potential pitcher in decades. All because they are short sighted and cheap. It is just sad.

Posted by: NatsFly | June 27, 2010 10:13 PM | Report abuse

According to Boswell's column Rizzo's patience is exhausted by what he sees on the field. That is a good sign that the status of our current players is tenuous. As others have said, "this ship is sinking". Some of these guys are not capable of playing even average defense at their positions and the cumulative affect is costing us runs and games. Bad baseball spawns more bad baseball and the Nats are chin deep in that now. Strassburg is the only reason to watch this team now and I think everyone in the organization knows it.

Posted by: driley | June 27, 2010 11:22 PM | Report abuse

Have heart Nats fans. Your front office did not do that bad a job last off season and hey have drafted well for a few years. Unfortunately baseball is the hardest sport to rebuild because there are so many one on one matchups. Sometimes several on one play. It is hard to hide a non prime time player because everyone has to individually do their job, and most have to be good on offense and defense. Noone can hit it, catch it, or throw it for you. Most sports you play either one or the other, and if it is a two way sport like basketball you really only have to be good at one. Last off season was a pretty dead one for FA, but this one should be pretty wide open. If you don't get major league replacements this off season for the holes in your line-up then start calling for Lerners to wake up. You are playing much better ball over all than you did last year and will probably improve by 10-15 games by the end of the year. That is progress and at that pace it will only take a couple years to be competitive all year. By that time your new bonus baby should be hitting them into the Potomac! Hold your head up, it is getting better. Slowly but steadily.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | June 28, 2010 9:11 AM | Report abuse

"I wonder if ever before in a weekend series has a team taken leads of 6-0, 5-0, and 3-0 and then in each case (a) stopped scoring runs and (b) given up precisely enough runs to lose each game by a run. It could be a first."

Actually no team has ever held leads of 5 or more runs two games in a row and blown them both. Pretty odd stat, but Dibble brought it up during the game on Sunday.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | June 28, 2010 9:18 AM | Report abuse

One other thing. How many of you drove the 35 miles up the road to support your team. I was there and the stadium was less than half full. I know it was hot, but I was there rooting for my team. Of course that was the Orioles as I did not turn my back on them just because Washington got Cnada's cast off team, but I was there.

Posted by: dbrine1261 | June 28, 2010 9:20 AM | Report abuse

The way this team is playing, I fully expect to see Strasburg run over to cover first on an infield squibber and then get both legs broken when Willingham crashes into him.

Yes, I know, Willingham plays left field. Go ahead, swear to me it couldn't possibly happen.

Posted by: gilbertbp | June 28, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

The Nats need a real bonefide GM, not some assistant learning on the job. Rizzo has done nothing except agree to pay Strasburg at the 12th hour.
The Nats need a real manager, not some interim from last season who is allowed to just stay on indefinitely ala Trembley.
And the Cheap Lerners have got to open up their purse. Enough already.
Are we gonna be the Senators all over again fore the next decade?

Posted by: dovelevine

Agreed. Rizzo's an unmitigated ass-kisser. It's sickening to listen to him open his yap and talk about the 'prouduct'. Does anyone else hate that word? It's a team, minors and major, not a product. A product is something you put on a shelf. You can tell he doesn't know what he's doing by the free agents he signs. Marquis and Capps. Sure, it's nice to have a closer, but when you have four holes in the starting rotation, he isn't worth a damn. They lose 100+ games two years in a row, and one of his two big acquisitions is a closer. 'We're not that far away, kids!'. Right. Marquis had a dead arm. Wang's start date has been pushed back two months because hey - they were flat-out lying about his return in May, and everyone who knows his injury knew that. I'll say it again - four second basemen, one outfielder - Willingham, (Bernadina may make a decent CF, but only at the lead-off spot). The team knows that their pitching sucks, and the pressure on them apparently is too much, because they can't hit in the last four innings. When you start with a major defect like starting pitching, the whole team puts pressure on itself, and it's all negative. Rizzo's a loser from the word go imo.

Posted by: Brue | June 28, 2010 11:04 AM | Report abuse

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