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John Lannan will stay in the Nationals rotation

John Lannan proved for two seasons he can pitch effectively, and even thrive, at this level. But with his last three starts, during which time he is 0-3 with a 10.38 ERA and a 2.92 WHIP, he has forced the Nationals to answer a question about his immediate future. If he is healthy - and he says he feels great - will he figure it out with the Nationals or in the minor leagues?

The answer, for now, is the Nationals. Lannan, whose 5.76 ERA is second highest in the National League, will make his next start as schedule, in Baltimore next weekend against the Orioles.

"I believe in John," Manager Jim Riggleman said. "John's been too good for us to let a few starts detour us too much, you know? We've got a lot of leash there with John."

By Adam Kilgore  |  June 20, 2010; 5:14 PM ET
 
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When are they going to accept that this is not some mini-slump?; this is a 35 game slide. You can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results.

Posted by: swanni | June 20, 2010 5:20 PM | Report abuse

If they play the last 70 games like this, they will hit 100 losses again.

Posted by: swanni | June 20, 2010 5:24 PM | Report abuse

Riggleman should look at what Manuel did to Maine. Did Lannan tell the truth???

Posted by: DCtw | June 20, 2010 5:27 PM | Report abuse

Rizzo needs to take a closer look at what riggleman is doing to the team.

Posted by: swanni | June 20, 2010 5:29 PM | Report abuse

>"I believe in John," Manager Jim Riggleman said.

I believe in love, too. But it keeps letting me down.

Posted by: Brue | June 20, 2010 5:30 PM | Report abuse

Lannan isn't the problem, although he's part of it. Riggleman is managing like it's game eight in spring training; there's no sense of urgency to make things better.

Posted by: swanni | June 20, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

I can understand being patient with Lannan, he certainly meant a lot to this team over the course of the 2008-09 seasons... but, those were seasons where the team racked up the worst records in MLB both years...

Again, I appreciate the patience they are showing, but at this point with losing 8 of 9 and Lannan showing generally nothing, I would also expect the team to show some sense of urgency... not that I ever expected a playoff season, but certainly it is not in the team's best interest to just let the team's win-loss record spiral out of control just at the point where nation wide attention in the team is spiking

So, I say give him the start against Baltimore... if the results still look the same, I think it is time to see what Detwiler can do in the MLB rotation... at the very least, he has better stuff, and this rotation is sadly in need of some "stuff" pitchers...

Sorry, John, I love ya! But two years as the "ace" of the absolute worst team in baseball is not enough to keep throwing you out there if you aren't producing results...

Posted by: Ghost7 | June 20, 2010 5:34 PM | Report abuse

Well said ghost

Posted by: swanni | June 20, 2010 5:36 PM | Report abuse

Lannan is and always has been a sub-par pitcher at best. The fact that he was our "ace" the previous two seasons is merely a testament to what a God-awful team this has been, and the motley crew of clowns they have trotted out to the mound. I don't mind terribly that they extend him a bit of a leash out of some loyalty for his general steadiness and the fact that he seems to be a good guy. But it's gotta be getting really, really short. He better be gone by the time Zimmerman and Detweiler are ready. He should be the first on the bus back to Syracuse. He's just not that good. Never was.

Posted by: chekhov1 | June 20, 2010 5:42 PM | Report abuse

Lannan is and always has been a sub-par pitcher at best. The fact that he was our "ace" the previous two seasons is merely a testament to what a God-awful team this has been, and the motley crew of clowns they have trotted out to the mound. I don't mind terribly that they extend him a bit of a leash out of some loyalty for his general steadiness and the fact that he seems to be a good guy. But it's gotta be getting really, really short. He better be gone by the time Zimmermann and Detweiler are ready. He should be the first on the bus back to Syracuse. He's just not that good. Never was.

Posted by: chekhov1 | June 20, 2010 5:43 PM | Report abuse

sorry for the double post. i got an error message the first time.

Posted by: chekhov1 | June 20, 2010 5:45 PM | Report abuse

That foul stench coming from Nationals Park is eminating from 3rd base. Apparently, Zimmerman wasn't satisfied with merely striking out every friggin' time. He finds he can hurt the team even more by hitting into double plays. btw, it was nice of Lannan to throw batting practice for the Sox. I thought we were getting "major League" baseball.

Posted by: lp_lodestar | June 20, 2010 6:47 PM | Report abuse

Sometimes loyalty will get you in trouble and it can even get you fired,that's the tightrope Riggleman is walking by keeping Lannan in the rotation, Lannan hasn't been able to get past the fifth inning in his last three start's and he's getting hit with great regularity by everybody in the opposition's lineup from the top of order to the bottom.Riggleman is managing like he 's in a fog i.e. pinch hitting Willie Harris in the ninth Harris is mired in a protracted slump and in every at bat he looks worse, why not bat Morse? his answer in the presser was in a word goofy these are the i believe Riggs has been a bench coach since his last dismissal.

Posted by: dargregmag | June 20, 2010 7:10 PM | Report abuse

A couple of things come to mind here:

Lannan does not currently belong in the majors. He should go down now, and return ONLY when he demonstrates an understanding of how to pitch.

Ryan Zimmerman needs a shrink. He looks to me like a guy with ADD. Absolutely no doubt that he could and should be a superstar in the majors. He cannot show consistency, either at bat or on the filed. Get this guy some help. Crikey!

Posted by: AWWNats | June 20, 2010 7:22 PM | Report abuse

they are playing like they are tired and going through the motions...its tough to have any success at all when the team leads the league in errors, is not hitting through the lineup and the starting pitching is simply mild and non threatening with the exception of SS....the starting pitching replacements can't get here soon enough. need to start playing Bernadina in center, and Morse in right...Morgan just isn't getting it done.

Posted by: outrbnksm | June 20, 2010 7:54 PM | Report abuse

Riggle the pitch count Robot has lapsed into him Manny Actless mode..(#1 reason i NEVER wanted him as a Mgr) and LOSING often has become routine.
AAA starters and inconsistent hitters...be glad they are not in the AL. YIKES !!!!!

Posted by: FletcherChristian1 | June 20, 2010 8:07 PM | Report abuse

Why??

Posted by: Phillip258 | June 20, 2010 8:49 PM | Report abuse

Somebody said about our team last year that "some of the Nats' pitchers look more comfortable when they are behind than when they are ahead." The first person I think of whom comes to mind is John Lannan. Why is it that it seems his best games are when he comes out of a game with a no decision and we manage to rally to win anyway? The White Sox may be an American League team, but they aren't the Yankees or the Rays. If we rally to get a 3-1 lead, there's no excuse for giving up four runs the next inning.

I wish I had the same confidence in Lannan that Riggleman does. Perhaps he's right and demoting Lannan to Syracuse won't help, but you'll have a hard time convincing me it won't hurt either!

Edward J. Cunningham
Rockville, MD

Posted by: femfour | June 20, 2010 8:51 PM | Report abuse

Lannan=Riggles

However Lannan pitches is how Riggleman will fare as manager.

sad to say, Riggles is gone at season's end.
And Lannan is moved over the winter

Posted by: 1stBaseCoach | June 20, 2010 10:21 PM | Report abuse

I was at all three games this weekend, besides the heat, I'm emotionally drained. There is nothing here folks and after reading the posts I agree 100%. When your at the game you have a tendency to miss a few things but one thing I did not miss was Zimmermans "ole attitude. I think this team is easily destined for 95+ losses, and regarding Detwiller, JZIM, Wang, Marquis and Olsen..., I'll believe it when I see it. BTW Lannen is just plain horrible, Rigglemans a schill for Rizzo and the StanK and its hard to imagine this team trotting out the likes of Lannen and Atilano many more times this year, but hey they really have nothing else.

Posted by: TippyCanoe | June 20, 2010 10:54 PM | Report abuse

I'm disappointed that I don't see or hear much of the "refuse to lose" type attitude, "this team is different" that we heard in the beginning of the year. I know a lot of that is talk, but I think that they carried a little bit of a swagger with them early in the year. Now it seems like the losing mentality, "we'll get them tomorrow" attitude from the past two years has returned. I'd like to see some fire from Riggs in postgame comments ... maybe his team would respond in kind. Someone needs to be sacrificed and made an example of - whether it's sending Lannan down to AAA, or benching Morgan, do something. Why are we stuck with Morgan and Guzman hitting 1-2, when the lineup is dead right now? Throw Desmond into the 2 spot, or Bernadina, or even Pudge. Just to get something going. Almost as disappointing as the play of the past 35 games has been the, "it's ok, we're better than this" attitude that has returned. It just looks and sounds too much like Acta's teams of 08 and 09.

Adam - has there been any talk of shuffling the lineup?

Posted by: dlombardo1 | June 21, 2010 12:14 AM | Report abuse

Like everyone else I endured the last 6 games as well. The truth is this team was never designed to play above .500 ball. Decent pitching has proven that this team has hitters that have lost their ability to even make contact on the ball--hence the stupid number of strikeouts. The same mantra of "this team always fights" has a false ring to it now. The near perfect bad record in extra innings proves the bats go silent in the clutch. Perhaps it does go back to accountability and the lack of it. Stammen is sent down for transgressions far less than what Lannan has displayed, Morgan makes bonehead play after bonehead play and still retains a starting role, watching Guzman and Kennedy attempt to field a baseball at second base is high comedy, and seeing Harris substituted in "to get at bats" when Morse has an average two hundred and change higher is like taking a hammer to soft tissue. The Strasburg phenom has brought fans to the ballpark, but I fear the rest of the team will send them back home, muttering "same old, same old...."

Posted by: driley | June 21, 2010 6:06 AM | Report abuse

From NatsTownNews: Nationals option LHP John Lannan to Double-A Harrisburg and select the contract of RHP Joel Peralta from Triple-A Syracuse

http://twitter.com/NatsTownNews/status/16718574253

Posted by: bryandc | June 21, 2010 4:18 PM | Report abuse

Whoops.

Posted by: jksesq1 | June 21, 2010 10:06 PM | Report abuse

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