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Today's lineups

The Nationals are going with an atypical lineup for today's matinee in Detroit. Nyjer Morgan and Ivan Rodriguez get the day off, Roger Bernadina will bat second for the first time and Mike Morse will hit sixth.

Nationals
1. Cristian Guzman, DH
2. Roger Bernadina, CF
3. Ryan Zimmerman, 3B
4. Adam Dunn, 1B
5. Josh Willingham, LF
6. Michael Morse, RF
7. Adam Kennedy, 2B
8. Ian Desmond, SS
9. Wil Nieves, C
- Luis Atilano, SP

Tigers
1.Ryan Raburn, 2B
2. Ramon Santiago, SS
3. Maggilo Ordonez, RF
4. Miguel Cabrera, 1B
5. Brennan Boesch, LF
6. Carlos Guillen, DH
7. Brandon Inge, 3B
8. Alex Avila, C
9. Don Kelly, CF
- Jeremy Bonderman, SP

By Adam Kilgore  |  June 17, 2010; 10:11 AM ET
 
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Comments

I would have DH'd Pudge and benched Guz too, his pathetic OBP vs RHP is not what we need today, and certainly not leading off. I like seeing Bernie in CF and at the top of the order, he's quietly become a legit everyday OFer and I think his defense might actually be BETTER in CF than RF since his athleticism can be used to greater advantage going back on balls and he'll be less likely to get caught shallow (as he often has in RF when there are runners on).

Posted by: estuartj | June 17, 2010 10:36 AM | Report abuse

Nats need Oswalt.

Posted by: chillsonic | June 17, 2010 10:51 AM | Report abuse

Could be that the dividends Nyjer earned during the second half of last season might be spent and his days as the everyday centerfielder could be nearing an end, especially with the emerging bat of Michael Morse. There is no drop off defensively with Bernadina in center, in fact, just the opposite may be true.

Posted by: cokedispatch | June 17, 2010 10:52 AM | Report abuse

I'm hoping this is the typical lineup going forward. Guz should be the DH against AL teams. The less time he plays the field, the better.

Morse needs to be in the lineup especially when Nieves is catching and even more so when the pitcher is batting. A line up with Morgan, Nieves and pitcher is not going to put many runners on base and will get even fewer home.

Sec314

Posted by: arlingtontwb | June 17, 2010 10:56 AM | Report abuse

Clearly off topic here:

How is the interleague schedule devised? I know that the AL/NL divisions compete on a rotating basis, but (if memory serves) we don't play Minnesota or Texas this year.

I know we play Baltimore twice (home and away) each year as a geographical rival, but I am not sure how it is determined which teams within the AL division we play.

Any insights will be appreciated.

Posted by: TimDz | June 17, 2010 10:57 AM | Report abuse

Good question, TimDz, but I don't know the answer.

In other news, we may need some additional crusty managerial quotes in order to get through the day. Hey, it's a grind. What can I say? :-)

Posted by: natsfan1a1 | June 17, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

"Nats need Oswalt."

They should trade Stephen Strasburg for him!

Seriously, though, the Nats need to keep the big picture in mind and not shoot themselves in the foot trying for post-season this year. For the first time the Nationals actually have assets to trade by deadline, something that has never been true before, so this is a big year for the organization. We could have a legitimate trade that moves the team along.

Catcher, right-field, second-base, and starting pitching are the four biggest needs. I think Willingham is a keeper at this point, Dunn probably is too, simply because we won't get anything of value in the next year for him.

Morse, Bernadina, and Guzman, seem to be our most appealing major league players. One of Mock, Stammen, Martis, Lannan, Atilano, or Balestar, seems to be a possibility for trading too.

Outside of Storen, I'm not too sure of anyone in our bullpen being part of next year, but feel good enough about everyone's possibility that they become hard to agree to move.

Posted by: Section506 | June 17, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

Really a shame the season is slipping away. We made it to June being relevant but beginning with the Houston trip everything started to unravel.

Now we see a much clearer picture. Although Rizzo said otherwise, we began the season with our starting pitching completely empty, with Rizzo hoping to just get by until a number of injured pitchers came off the DL to save us. Not going out and getting at least 1 other pitcher and probably 2 and simply relying on Marquis, who is a 4th or 5th starter on a real team as our ace, was absurd.

And how about 2nd base. ODog was too expensive so they got the good professional and great defensive 2nd baseman Adam Kennedy, who by my last count has cost the Nats at least 5 games because of errors. And as far as a great clubhouse guy, well you can read what Leyland had to say about that. Good hitters make good clubhouse guys.

And finally what about all the talk on building a great defensive team? Well the Nats are last, that's LAST in defense in the entire league with more errors than anyone. How does that freakin happen?
Too bad. Really.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 17, 2010 11:15 AM | Report abuse

Section506:
For the first time the Nationals actually have assets to trade by deadline, something that has never been true before, so this is a big year for the organization.
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Um, ever heard of Alfonso Soriano?

(I'm assuming you're talking about major assets, rather than people like Nick Johnson who was traded for a prospect near the deadline last year.)

Posted by: cassander | June 17, 2010 11:23 AM | Report abuse

Posted by: Section506 | June 17, 2010 11:10 AM | Report abuse

I think this year we need to be happy with .500 or something close to that. We still have Ross Detwiler, Jordan Zimmerman, Wang, Marquis, Olsen, and Flores coming back from injury. Detwiler and Zimmerman should be part of the future 5 man rotation. If we can get another starter or 2 out of Wang, Lannan, Marquis, the half dozen minor league guys, or Olsen then we should be fine for a starting 5 next year. We also have Norris and Harper coming up in the next few years. That should take care of RF and C. If we stay on this path we can possibly build a contender in about 2 or 3 years. We just need to be patient. Let's not Redskin this team just to make an early playoff exit. Let's do it the right way and actually try to win a championship.

Posted by: PAskinsfan17 | June 17, 2010 11:29 AM | Report abuse

Section506;
You say we have assets to trade then discount the two players (Hammer & Dunn) that would give return. The rest of the players you mentioned wouldn't return more than a bag of balls and some used bubblgum.

Posted by: estuartj | June 17, 2010 11:30 AM | Report abuse

yeah...feel that the mojo created by SS is slowly slip-slidin' away! I think Rizzo is keen to this and you will see some moves made.

Posted by: 1of9000 | June 17, 2010 11:32 AM | Report abuse

I also disagree on getting Oswalt or a pitcher like him. I think the goal is an early 30s pitcher with a strong pedigree who's under contract for at least '11. Someone who can be a mento for Stras, J-Zimm & Detwiler while also leading by example. Oswalt is a great option because by eating his contract the Nats can reduce the cost in players given in trade. I'm not sure that would be the case with Lee, Haren, etc.

Posted by: estuartj | June 17, 2010 11:36 AM | Report abuse

Section506;
You say we have assets to trade then discount the two players (Hammer & Dunn) that would give return. The rest of the players you mentioned wouldn't return more than a bag of balls and some used bubblgum.

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Hammer is an asset we need for next year. Dunn is unlikely to bring us anything we need for next year (though I'm listening), but rather prospects that will be valuable in two or three years.

Guzman is perpetually underestimated on this blog. There are many, many, many contending teams that would love a second baseman who hits .297 and is willing to do whatever the manager asks him. He could bring something next year.

Any of the pitchers I mentioned would be a lovely kicker in a deal involving Guzman for a AAA player ready to make his MLB breakthrough stifled on a really good contending team.

Just for example. I don't know how the grumps got into you today, estuartj, but it's clouding your normally impeccable analysis.

Posted by: Section506 | June 17, 2010 11:45 AM | Report abuse

if Atilano's start today goes south, Nat's management needs to get some help in here or this season is going away fast. Martin is being skipped this cycle, maybe he goes Sat...but Atilano, Lannon and Hernandez were awful this go around. Need to get the "next" replacement from the DL into the rotation as soon as possible....between Marquis, Olsen and the asian dude, you'd think something somebody would be ready - not like they have done MUCH AT ALL so far this year.

I'd like to see Bernadino in center, Morse in right with Morgan cycling in as 3rd outfield..Harris is giving us nothing.

Posted by: outrbnksm | June 17, 2010 12:13 PM | Report abuse

dovelevine: Not that I'd be able to convince you, but the Nationals are better defensively then they were last year, at least by the Team UZR/150 metric.

In 2009, the team had a -3.8 rating (15th in the NL, 24th in MLB). So far this year, that rating is projecting at a +3.9 rating (5th in NL, 11th in MLB). Data from fangraphs.

Posted by: BinM | June 17, 2010 12:32 PM | Report abuse

The value of someone like Dunn depends on the needs of the contenders. Should the Yanks or Sox need help at 1B because of an injury expect them to overpay.

Posted by: SCNatsFan | June 17, 2010 12:46 PM | Report abuse

>>dovelevine: Not that I'd be able to convince you, but the Nationals are better defensively then they were last year, at least by the Team UZR/150 metric.

Metric system? BWAHAHAHAHAH. Speak English Padre. The Nats have committed more errors than any other team in the Majors. Period. If that makes them still better than last year....well enjoy that.

Posted by: dovelevine | June 17, 2010 1:07 PM | Report abuse

section506:

I don't know anything on how a trade might go down but this blog said a few weeks ago that to get Oswalt the nats would have to give money OR prospects. ( probably both ) If its just money, well thats one thing the nats do have albeit Rizzo has to go hat in hand to the Lerners. Prospects, not so much.

Posted by: chillsonic | June 17, 2010 2:02 PM | Report abuse

"For the first time the Nationals actually have assets to trade by deadline, something that has never been true before, so this is a big year for the organization. We could have a legitimate trade that moves the team along."

Soriano 2006. Livan Hernandez 2006. Dmitri Young 2007. Nick Johnson 2009. Joe Beimel 2009. How soon they forget. (Just because the assets weren't actually traded by the deadline doesn't mean they weren't there and available for trading.)

However, I fully expect no trades before the deadline this season. Rizzo would have to be absolutely blown away by whatever he gets in return for Dunn, Willingham, Clippard or Capps, and that's not going to happen. Likewise, no other team is going to want Guzman or Livo. Who else you got in mind?

Posted by: nunof1 | June 17, 2010 2:37 PM | Report abuse

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