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Nationals nearing an Adam Dunn trade? [updated]

The White Sox and Diamondbacks have agreed on a trade that will send starting pitcher Edwin Jackson to Chicago, the first potential step in a deal that could send Nationals first baseman Adam Dunn to the White Sox and land Jackson with the Nationals.

The Nationals are intent on either trading Dunn or signing him to a contract extension by Saturday's 4 p.m. non-waiver trade deadline.

As of now, Dunn heading to Chicago remains only speculation. But the White Sox have pined for Dunn for some time, and Nationals General Manager Mike Rizzo has shown interest in Jackson.

Dunn was scheduled to be in the lineup for Friday night's game against the Phillies.

By Adam Kilgore  |  July 30, 2010; 1:32 PM ET
 
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Kurkjian of ESPN reporting that the Nationals told him directly they are NOT trading Dunn to the White Sox for Edwin Jackson

Posted by: swanni | July 30, 2010 1:54 PM | Report abuse

Yes, i was about to put. Thank God, but we did let daniel hudson get away.

Posted by: coop28 | July 30, 2010 1:55 PM | Report abuse

I hope Kurkjian has it right. Dunn straight up for Jackson is idiotic.

Posted by: mojo6 | July 30, 2010 1:56 PM | Report abuse

Well the logic is that the ChiSox have to get a starter back since they traded one of theirs (Hudson) to get Jackson. But what about something like Dunn and Livo for Jackson and a prospect? The plot thickens.

Posted by: BobLHead | July 30, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

I hope that's not semantic BS ("we're not trading Dunn for Jackson...we're trading Dunn for Jackson + prospects")

Posted by: joebleux | July 30, 2010 2:07 PM | Report abuse

KEEP DUNN

Posted by: alex35332 | July 30, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Yeah;i was watching twwlis and Timmaae did report that Rizzo is not interested in Jackson we've already got the AAA version of Jackson in Martis at the Cuse, anyway we need to get all of it for Dunn and nothing less.

Posted by: dargregmag | July 30, 2010 2:08 PM | Report abuse

Trading Dunn without signing Harper would be idiotic.

Posted by: 6thandD | July 30, 2010 2:14 PM | Report abuse

Sounds like Rizzo has got the Yankees and the Rays in a bidding contest for Dunn. I hope he stays but a 4 year deal seems like too much to pay. Speculation is he could get 3 years for $40M which could still give him a few years as a DH. Four years as a 1B is not a good deal for the Nats. At any rate, when the high rollers start bidding you have to listen.

Posted by: Natmeister | July 30, 2010 2:15 PM | Report abuse

First heard about this potential trade earlier this week when it was a 3-way deal that had Jackson and Dunn effectively being traded for each other, Dunn ending up in Chicago. I couldn't believe even the most inept baseball exec would do that, and it's good for the Nats that this apparently is not going to happen.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | July 30, 2010 2:19 PM | Report abuse

ATTENTION Nationals Fans, be advised the Filthy invasion has begun.

Just came back from the Navy Yard to my hootch over in Crytal City and saw lots of Phillies fans already mingling along M Street and near the MC Barracks. Oh brother, the tour buses should be arriving shortly. 40K in the house 30K screaming for those rotten 17th and Patterson CheezySteaks!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | July 30, 2010 2:38 PM | Report abuse

"Trading Dunn without signing Harper would be idiotic."

That's a pretty strange non-sequitor statement? That 17 year old twit is posting brash tripe on facebook like any cocky high school senior would ... making it very clear that he won't even sniff the majors before he is 21. He is at least 3-4 years away and who knows what he will look like then? That's 2014 guy?

This is today. Dunn, Willingham, and Zimmerman are here today. Its seems likely they won't be here in 2014.

Posted by: periculum | July 30, 2010 2:39 PM | Report abuse

Dunn has his limitations but I'm not sure this franchise can survive in this town by just stockpiling pitchers with sub-par defense behind them and letting a big bopper like Dunn go unless we also solve the mid infield shortcomings. I trust Rizzo but I don't have the same faith in the D.C. faithful.

Posted by: McKinley2 | July 30, 2010 2:40 PM | Report abuse

Rizzo clearly said that a trade of Dunn would have to include Beckham. If you were KW would you trade Edwards, Beckham, perhaps Quentin for Dunn and a couple of Nats pitching prospects? They might crucify you in Chicago if you did that.

Posted by: periculum | July 30, 2010 2:42 PM | Report abuse

If I was Dunn I would take my chances as free agent. I think he can do better than 3 years $40 million.

Posted by: Pensfans | July 30, 2010 2:43 PM | Report abuse

"The Nationals are intent on either trading Dunn or signing him to a contract extension by Saturday's 4 p.m. non-waiver trade deadline."

And you know this how, Adam? Someone in the Nats FO leak it to you, or are you just surmising? Because they certainly don't HAVE to sign him by 4 pm tomorrow, even if they fully intend to sign him. Tomorrow's the trading deadline, not the signing deadline. Look at it this way: They have received an offer from Dunn's agent, and have reportedly not responded back with any counter-offers at all. This means they know the maximum amount it will cost to keep Dunn, and for how many years. All they have to do is pay it. But they also can use that knowledge to gauge the worth of whatever they might be able to get back by trading him. If they get a trade offer that's worth more to them than the next X years of Dunn at $Y, they pull the trigger and trade him. But if they don't, then they make their first counter-offer to Dunn's agent and begin the serious process of negotiation. They have until after the World Series to close that deal.

Bottom line, it's not an either-or situation. There is a third path that is entirely reasonable and highly possible. Unless of course what you said is something they told you. Which I doubt.

Posted by: FeelWood | July 30, 2010 2:56 PM | Report abuse

The NY Post is reporting that both the Yankees and Rays have pretty much given up on trading for Dunn. Both teams consider the asking price too high. If that's the case, the Nats better push to sign Dunn as soon as they can. This is probably going to end up costing them because they'll almost certainly have to shell out a lot more at this point than if they'd extended him prior to this season, and there's a good chance he could walk away and they end up with nothing. As for Dunn, he's apparently let it be known he has no interest in being a full-time DH. It doesn't seem that he's any better at analyzing his true worth than the Nats are.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | July 30, 2010 2:57 PM | Report abuse

People at ESPN seem to think that the Giants have entered the negotiations for Dunn.

http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/features/rumors?&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fmlb%2ffeatures%2frumors#6363

Posted by: Kev29 | July 30, 2010 3:05 PM | Report abuse

@Tippy - On the Philly Invasion, I was at the box office this morning and the guy ahead of my wanted to get tickets to tomorrow's game. He was told all that is left are Diamond Club seats (and maybe some others I could hear that were out of his price range). Could be very ugly out there for Nyjer's Bobblehead night.

Posted by: Section222 | July 30, 2010 3:10 PM | Report abuse

@Fairfax6: but don't forget that "nothing" = a couple nice draft picks, not literally nothing.

Posted by: buckwheaton1 | July 30, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

KEEP DUNN. PLEASE?

Posted by: DCguy7 | July 30, 2010 3:12 PM | Report abuse

Incidentally, El Duque made his debut for the Nats Rookie League team. One inning, one run, two hits.

Signing him makes less and less sense the more I think about it.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | July 30, 2010 3:13 PM | Report abuse

Guzman to Rangers.

Posted by: longterm | July 30, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

Guzman to Rangers.

Posted by: longterm | July 30, 2010 3:14 PM | Report abuse

"Fairfax6: but don't forget that 'nothing' = a couple nice draft picks, not literally nothing."

Still a case of minimizing what he could bring in a deal for prospects.

Posted by: Fairfax6 | July 30, 2010 3:15 PM | Report abuse

"Guzman to Rangers."

Not saying that's a bad idea, but for what?

Posted by: Fairfax6 | July 30, 2010 3:16 PM | Report abuse

Both trades so far to teams that used to be the Washington Senators. Coincidence? (Yes. Coincidence.)

Posted by: buckwheaton1 | July 30, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Just remember, Mike, any deal can be sweetened by throwing in Clint.

Posted by: SorenKierkegaard | July 30, 2010 3:17 PM | Report abuse

Prospects...

Posted by: mojo6 | July 30, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Dunn for Jackson would be a terrible deal. Jackson is a 5+ ERA pitcher. The Nats don't have to pay Jackson's money for that kind of performance.

Posted by: jeffreyt211 | July 30, 2010 3:18 PM | Report abuse

Sad to see Guzzie go although it's best for all concerned.

Posted by: swanni | July 30, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Rangers Acquire Cristian Guzman
By Tim Dierkes [July 30 at 2:13pm CST]
The Rangers acquired infielder Cristian Guzman from the Nationals for prospects, reports MLB.com's Bill Ladson. The Rangers were linked to Guzman yesterday when Ian Kinsler hit the DL.

Guzman, 32, is hitting .282/.327/.361 in 346 plate appearances on the season while playing second base, shortstop, and right field. He has $2.87MM remaining on his contract, but it was expected that the Nationals would have to pick up most or all of the tab to move him.

Love it, love it, love it! As much as I appreciate everything Guzzie did for us, I'm glad we got to move him for more prospects. Plus I was tired of his lacksadaisacal (sp) approach to the game...

Posted by: FloresFan | July 30, 2010 3:19 PM | Report abuse

Wow, Guzman was the first acquisition the Nats ever made. I am curious to know who they got in return. It is a good move if they paid a chunk of his salary and therefore got better prospects in return.

+1/2St.

Posted by: kevincostello | July 30, 2010 3:21 PM | Report abuse

A Dun trade might be near but a Guzman trade to the Texas Rangers has already happened! Go for it Kilgore

Posted by: TippyCanoe | July 30, 2010 3:22 PM | Report abuse

How about signing Dunn already? He is one of the best and most underrated hitters in baseball and has worked his a$$ off to become a serviceable first baseman. Let's not start behaving like the Redskins and letting our own players go. Let's be a quality organization and lock our true stars up long term even if it costs money. Don't think Zimmerman and Strasburg won't remember this if we let our best (only) power hitter leave town.

Posted by: jksesq1 | July 30, 2010 3:27 PM | Report abuse

@+1/2St They got a bucket of balls and 25 pounds of chew for Guzman. Not a bad move but then again say hello to everyday Adam Kennedy. Yikes!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | July 30, 2010 3:28 PM | Report abuse

Don't trade Dunn, just sign him. If they trade Dunn, there's not much left. I want my money back for the rest of my season tickets.

Posted by: blankspace | July 30, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

"Plus I was tired of his lacksadaisacal (sp) approach to the game.."

I respectfully disagree. Guzzie's acceptance of loosing out to Desmond at SS was class all the way.

Posted by: twinbrook | July 30, 2010 3:31 PM | Report abuse

Got the feeling that tonight's ovation for Dunn might rival that for Miss Iowa!

Posted by: paulkp | July 30, 2010 3:40 PM | Report abuse

Re up the Donkey for three

Posted by: postcrud | July 30, 2010 4:03 PM | Report abuse

Either Dunn agrees to something reasonable or he is gone.

His defense is so bad that reduces what you would normally pay a 35 home run hitter who is merely 'decent' in the field.

If he doesn't agree he can be a DH in Chicago or Boston.

Posted by: RoyHobbs4 | July 30, 2010 4:12 PM | Report abuse

I believe Adam Dunn is good as gone to the Rays or Yanks.

Posted by: 4U2Know | July 30, 2010 4:17 PM | Report abuse

TippyCanoe

I am having nightmares that Willie Harris will play 2nd. Riggs loves him some Willie.

Posted by: hansenjo | July 30, 2010 4:30 PM | Report abuse

A moment of appreciation of Guz, the last of the original guys, I think. Got through that awful first year when he couldn't see the ball, and then the injuries, and then the move. Didn't walk enough, not a top flight fielder by the time we got him, but generally worked hard, had a good attitude, and had a fair number of big hits, to the extent the Nats have big hits. Good luck to him.

Posted by: markfromark | July 30, 2010 4:32 PM | Report abuse

Didnt they just get Dunn not even two seasons ago? What was the point? And how can you get better if you trade away your good players for prospects? Keep Dunn and keep adding more players.

Posted by: ged0386 | July 30, 2010 4:41 PM | Report abuse

Amen, markfromark. I think it's good to unload him, but I tip my curly W cap to him.

Posted by: jdsp2000 | July 30, 2010 4:59 PM | Report abuse

So far, so good. I trust Rizzo. This is a last place team.

Guzman - time was up and getting anything at all was a plus. Good hitter, but his fielding was suffering.

Capps - A bit risky given Storen and Clippard have been up and down. Taking the catcher prospect for a guy who is expendable and potentially costly after this year was smart.

Dunn - We'll see, but Rizzo had better make the other team hurt as he had said recently. I want Gordon Beckham... Make it happen, Rizzo.

Posted by: gbr_huskers | July 30, 2010 5:41 PM | Report abuse

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