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Riggleman: Strasburg likely to be shut down for 10 days

On an appearance this morning on MLB Network Radio on Sirius/XM, Nationals Manager Jim Riggleman said Stephen Strasburg would not make his scheduled start Sunday against the Philadelphia Phillies, and will likely be shut down for 10 days, according to a tweet from Brent Gambill, the network's executive producer.

Riggleman said a trip to the disabled list remains a possibility, but said the team still plans for Strasburg to pitch again this season. After Sunday, Strasburg's next start is currently scheduled for Aug. 6 at Dodger Stadium.

More on this soon, as Riggleman will be speaking to the media at Nationals Park shortly, prior to the Nationals' 12:35 p.m. game against the Atlanta Braves.

By Dave Sheinin  |  July 29, 2010; 8:50 AM ET
 
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Since he last started on July 21st can't they put him on the DL retroactive to July 22nd which would mean he could come off the DL on Aug 6th, when they're suggesting would be his next possibe start? Shame to lose a roster spot by not putting him on the DL if he's not going to pitch in 15 days anyway.

Posted by: slopitchtom | July 29, 2010 9:16 AM | Report abuse

slopitchtom, good question. I wonder if writing him into the lineup and then scratching him would keep them from doing that and force them to start the DL stint as of yesterday?

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 9:23 AM | Report abuse

Assuming he doesn't have a serious problem, I actually this isn't such a bad thing. Put Marquis out there with Olsen, Detwiler and eventually J. Zimm and even Maya and let's see what they've got.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 9:26 AM | Report abuse

And so it begins....., there goes my stubhub sales!

Posted by: TippyCanoe | July 29, 2010 9:30 AM | Report abuse

From the FWIW column, Jayson Stark of ESPN says Adam Dunn will be traded:

"With every day that goes by, it appears less likely that Dunn will sign an extension in Washington. And teams that have been in on him are getting signals that the Nationals are likely to trade him, although it might not happen until Saturday.

The White Sox are still the favorite in this derby. But a source told Rumblings that interest in Dunn was picking up as other clubs have begun getting the word that the probability of a deal is growing.

So he still could wind up with the second tier of suitors -- the Yankees, Tigers, Rays, Giants or Padres. But the price Washington is asking remains "off the charts," said an official of one club that checked in. So nothing was imminent as of Wednesday morning.

The Nationals also continue to field offers on Josh Willingham. But we're still hearing that unless they get an offer they can't turn down, they won't deal away both Dunn and Willingham. And the Nationals are so thin in the outfield, they'd have a difficult time trading Willingham in any scenario without getting an impact young outfielder back."

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 9:35 AM | Report abuse

"But we're still hearing that unless they get an offer they can't turn down, they won't deal away both Dunn and Willingham."

In building your ballclub, it is helpful to keep part of what you have. This seems to be the minimalist philosophy. What's wrong with keeping what works and building from there?

Posted by: EdDC | July 29, 2010 9:54 AM | Report abuse

Looking at the schedule, and taking into account Riggleman's comments, I'm wondering if they are thinking about him making his comeback start (assuming no further complications) on 8/10 against Florida. That'd give him two starts on the homestand, with the next coming 8/15. (And I'm not just saying that 'cause I have tix for 8/10 and 8/15!)

Posted by: lmf-DC | July 29, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

I'm up in the air about trading Dunn, Willingham or Capps until I see the offer. I don't think it's necessarily right or wrong to trade them, it depends on the deal.

However, I kinda think it's right to trade Livo. The return won't be high, but it should be pretty good considering he's pitching well and he's cheap and he's always healthy. And you never know what a prospect can become.

And while you can never count on anything when it comes to pitching, we are looking at going into 2011 with:

Strasburg
Zimmermann
Marquis who should be healthy
Olsen who might be healthy
Detwiler
Maya
Martin
Stammen

Seeems pretty likely we can get 5 healthy guys from this group by next April.

One reason to keep Livo. For Maya. Certainly a consideration.

Posted by: Sunderland | July 29, 2010 10:01 AM | Report abuse

EdDC, you're preaching to the choir. Even if they trade one of these guys and not both, I have a hard time seeing what they would get that would make me believe that they'll be a better team next year, not 2013, next year. And it's time to start thinking about next year and not three years down the road.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 10:02 AM | Report abuse

But we took out a second mortgage on the house, arranged for grandpa's iron lung to be moved to the ballpark, wangled a supervised released of Uncle John, and have flown in all our relatives from Scandanavia. Little Nell is not expected to survive past Tuesday. Will the Nats make us good on these losses?

Posted by: markfromark | July 29, 2010 10:09 AM | Report abuse

markfromark, only if Little Nell agrees to start Sunday's game...

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 10:12 AM | Report abuse

Sunderland, I agree with you about the starting rotation, which makes me wonder why they seem to pushing to get another starter in the Dunn trade talks. They would seem to have other needs...

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 10:18 AM | Report abuse

baltova, I think because Stan got incredibly lucky in Atlanta with Maddux, Galvine and Smoltz, the only way he knows how to build a club is through pitching.

So one of his strategies is to just horde pitching, and then deal it to get what you need / want.

Posted by: Sunderland | July 29, 2010 10:32 AM | Report abuse

@baltova:
Probably because of the old saw "You can never have enough pitching". Think about it...
Atilano - On DL (surgery)
Chico - Plugging along in SYR
Detwiler - Just back from injury rehab
Hernandez - Healthy, steady
Lannan - In HAR, trying to get his groove back
Marquis - Coming back from injury rehab soon
Martin - On DL (back)
Martis - Plugging along in SYR
Mock - On DL (cervical spine surgery)
Olsen - Coming back from rehab today
Stammen - Healthy, a little shaky
Strasburg - shut down for the next 10 days.
Wang - Has yet to throw a pitch in 2010
JZimmermann - On rehab assignment.

Posted by: BinM | July 29, 2010 10:34 AM | Report abuse

Would this appease the Masses:

Dunn and Capps to the Yanks for Granderson and Joba (both the yanks are down on).

Willingham to the Giants for Matt Cain

Stammen/Chico/any other AAAA pitcher and another Kennedy for Kelly Johnson

Bernie, Granderson, Morgan in a very fast outfield.

Granderson and Morgan as your 1,2 in the batting order.

Mores, Johnson, Desi, Zimm in the infield

Cain and Joba to the Rotation

2011
Rotation

SS
ZIMM
Cain
Maya
Joba
Livo as the 6th starter

Posted by: hansenjo | July 29, 2010 10:37 AM | Report abuse

Trading Dunn is not just about Dunn. From all outward appearances, it really does seem like Zim, Dunn, and Willingham have all made a strong connection to each other. I think trading any of the 3 will negatively impact the 2 that are still here. I hope the FO considers the 2nd and 3rd order consequences of trading Dunn or Willingham.

Posted by: Dougmacintyre | July 29, 2010 10:39 AM | Report abuse

Willingham for Cain? I love these talk-radio inspired trades. Why on earth would the Giants make that trade?

Posted by: Handsome_John_Pruitt | July 29, 2010 10:43 AM | Report abuse

Willingham for Cain makes no sense when Rangers are looking to trade Cliff Lee for Willie Harris and Adam Kennedy.

Posted by: HHover | July 29, 2010 10:49 AM | Report abuse

EdDC, you're preaching to the choir. Even if they trade one of these guys and not both, I have a hard time seeing what they would get that would make me believe that they'll be a better team next year, not 2013, next year. And it's time to start thinking about next year and not three years down the road. Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 10:02 AM

That's just it. I believe that Dunn, Josh and Capps are good for nice production over the next four years. It's a keep-and-build scenario to retain them. Prospects, even if they are successful, will not give you more great years than that, in all likelihood. The deals would be salary dumps.

Here's something Ted Lerner would comprehend (and thanks to zendo for yesterday's mall analogy):

Let's say you have this poorly performing shopping mall. All the numbers are down: a lack of quality tenants, not enough shoppers, etc. In fact, you have to go all the way to Baltimore to find a worse mall.

So a major anchor--Macy's (aka Dunn) is negotiating an extension. If you let Macy's clear out its anchor location, does that help build momentum for the future? Or does it hurt? As zendo said, you can't replace Macy's with Dollar Stores and be just as well off.

Posted by: EdDC | July 29, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

BinM, I get your point, but compare that to the list of players the Nats have who can bat in the middle of the order:

Zimm
Dunn (about to be traded?)
Willingham (about to be traded?)
Morse (who can't get in the lineup more than once a week)
Marrero (maybe ready in 2012?)
Michael Burgess, Derek Norris, Destin Hood and Bryce Harper (maybe ready by 2013?)

They should be able to piece together a solid rotation from what's here now. You can't say the same about their batting order and it's hard to believe they can trade Dunn and/or Willingham and both replace those guys in the order AND get significant help for the rest of the team.

But we have to wait and see what happens.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 10:53 AM | Report abuse

@Hansejo -- Really? I assume your post was a complete joke. Both the Yanks and Giants would laugh at the Nats FO if they proposed either one of those trades. Come on man.

Posted by: OldNumber3 | July 29, 2010 11:00 AM | Report abuse

@baltova:
I've never been an advocate of trading the heart of the order; Sorry if I came off as one in my response.

If there was a LH bat with even 'projectable' power high in the system, I'd consider trading Dunn - There isn't. Most of the guys you list are RH hitters, are a couple of years away at best, and are probably more 'gap power', 20HR types at the ML level.

Posted by: BinM | July 29, 2010 11:06 AM | Report abuse

BinM, no, I understood your point. I'm in the camp that this team shouldn't be sellers or buyers as much as "adders," bringing in additional talent to go with what's here, with the goal of being a .500 team next year and a playoff contender in 2012. Hard to see how trading either Dunn or Willingham (or both) makes that happen. But I'm willing to change my mind.

Posted by: baltova1 | July 29, 2010 11:11 AM | Report abuse

I think the Nats will move either Kennedy or Willie Harris if there are any takers. I like Kennedy and think he should get much more playing time than he does -but he's getting more time recently, most likely to showcase him for other teams. I think someone is going to move to make room for Morse getting more time to see what he can do on an everyday basis. Whether that's Dunn or Willingham or even Nyjer, I think that's the way it's going to go - or they'll move Morse since I would think he would be of high interest as well to other teams. I actually think if Dunn goes, he'll re-sign here in the off-season and could possibly see his being traded as a way to build the club for next season, with him here, and with the additions here that he helped bring here. Lots of moving parts going on these days with the Nats - and then there's still Capps, and Livo. Interesting next few days.

Posted by: AsstGM | July 29, 2010 11:25 AM | Report abuse

Willie Harris and Adam Kennedy for Cliff Lee? That made me laugh.

Posted by: AsstGM | July 29, 2010 11:27 AM | Report abuse

If you think Cain is untouchable you would be wrong.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/426352-trade-deadline-moves-would-be-luxury-for-streaking-giants

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2010/07/giants-discussing-guillen-interested-in-willingham.html

Posted by: hansenjo | July 29, 2010 11:33 AM | Report abuse

Neither of those articles says the Giants have the least willingness to trade Cain.

His name doesn't even appear in your link to MLBTR, which will publish pretty much any rumor that can make it onto the internet (my suggestion of Lee for Harris and Kennedy will no doubt appear shortly). Your other link was more making a pt about Rizzo's tendency to ask for the moon and the stars--the Giants have already turned down requests for their #5 starter (Bumgarner), and aren't likely to give up their #3 starter (Cain) if they want to contend this year.

Posted by: HHover | July 29, 2010 11:51 AM | Report abuse

The baseball in DC storyline is getting a bit old. I think the Nationals need to start winning a few games or there will be lots of empty seats. As to Strasburg, I think they need to shut him down for the year. He fills the park up, but if they blow his arm out it will not be worth it. Anyone who throws as hard as he does is a physical freak. The human arm is not designed to throw a baseball.

Posted by: gvelanis | July 29, 2010 11:59 AM | Report abuse

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